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MCMONEAGLE IN CONFERENCE
11 July 2009 at www.dojopsi.com/chat/
A web page made to feature Joe McMoneagle, this transcript, and other information about
or from him now or in the future is location here: http://www.dojopsi.com/rvexpo/Joe/
Find him directly at: http://blog.mceagle.com
TKR on Mr. McMoneagle's invitation to chat: Joe provided remote viewing for science
research and intelligence from the 1970s until the 1990s, and was a key participant in projects now
collectively known as STAR GATE. He has done over 160 'challenge' viewings in at least 7 countries,
in nationally televised events, science labs, and/or both. He is the most scientifically documented and
international double-blind challenge viewer in the world.
This transcript was obtained from a live chat held in the TKR chat room at the Dojo Psi. Copyright © 2009 to Joseph McMoneagle
and Palyne “PJ” Gaenir (www.palyne.com) on behalf of TKR and the Dojo Psi. (Transcript integrity notes: typos corrected, topical
Q&A put more cohesively together, room traffic ignored.) Chat moderator: PJ Gaenir.
We are Ten Thousand Roads Remote Viewing and Dowsing Project aka "TKR." The rules are
simple: Relax, have fun, be cordial, no politics or religion. Remote Viewing rocks!
Palyne_Gaenir: We are talking with Joseph W. McMoneagle, Viewer #001 (in so many
more ways than one!). Joe, sorry about the technical difficulties, but thanks for joining us!
Palyne_Gaenir: OK first question! In The Ultimate Time Machine you only briefly address
future matters concerning psychic functioning indirectly, such as the mystery cults/
religion of the 30 century. What are your feelings concerning the future progression of
remote viewing/ psychic functioning in this century?
Palyne_Gaenir: What can you do when you know that someone is Remote Viewing you or
trying to?
Palyne_Gaenir: Rumor is you do your remote viewing sessions "in your head" instead of
on paper. How often do you write something down; do you not write until you are done?
Palyne_Gaenir: Do you still use any of the old CDs that Bob Monroe made for you?
Joseph_McMoneagle: The old technology that Bob Monroe developed specifically for my
use consisted of tapes. Thank God not 8-track tapes. He was not proficient in any other
technology. So continued use of those tapes has basically worn them out. So now what I do
is close my eyes and remember what they sounded like.
Palyne_Gaenir: How long does it take you to 'get in the groove' for acquiring RV data?
Palyne_Gaenir: Have you ever tried Remote Viewing from the lucid dream state since you
had those scary 'false awakenings'? Also did you think the LD state helped your RV
accuracy at all?
Palyne_Gaenir: How frequently do you go out of body or Astral Project to get information,
or is it more in a spontaneous bi-location style?
Joseph_McMoneagle: My OBE data collection occurs rarely. Mostly because it's far more
limited than straight remote viewing. But there are times when collection of information
in the OB state can be more decisive or accurate.
Palyne_Gaenir: Why?
Joseph_McMoneagle: Because you're actually standing there seeing it. However, other
information about the object, such as where it's been made, who made it, how it was
made, these kinds of things, are not available in the OB state.
Palyne_Gaenir: Ed May says we don't know 'when' psi comes in. So how do you know that
psi reception is so brief?
Joseph_McMoneagle: I believe it's so brief because all of the other time is spent on
processing the input. There are many who believe that input is better if it's not processed.
The false understanding this creates is because many believe that they can actually report
information without processing. This is an impossibility. Secondly, Ed May says this
because, even under lab conditions, we have no ability to determine exactly when psychic
functioning is taking place on any given specific target. It could be happening as the
individual is driving to the lab... during the actual attempt... or post-hoc after the effort has
been terminated.
Palyne_Gaenir: You said, concerning 'remote influence', that psi was 'dysfunctional' to a
certain degree. But psi doesn't seem dysfunctional for you at all... at least to me.
Joseph_McMoneagle: Not true. I'm many times not 100% or correct about the targets I'm
asked to report on. This too is part of the system of remote viewing: learning to deal with
the failures is just as important as learning to deal with the successes. Taking full
Palyne_Gaenir: Has there been any real-time MRI done to a Remote Viewer while in
protocol?
Joseph_McMoneagle: Yes. There were three years of studies, approximately, done at Los
Alamos using MRI as well as SQUID (sub quantum interface technologies) to determine if
specific events could be recorded relating directly to remote viewing. What we
determined was no. There are not. And the problem seems to be that it's too difficult to
know specifically WHEN the actual reception of data takes place vs. normal human
processing. (Of that data.) I can say also that there seems to be a possibility that fMRI
might be a profitable area of inquiry. But to my knowledge no one has done this yet. (ha -
yes - the S in SQUID stands for superconducting not sub quantum, sorry. Thanks for that
correction.)
Palyne_Gaenir: Any thoughts on brain wave tapes to help get into the groove? Is any better
than the others: beta, theta, alpha etc?
Palyne_Gaenir: In your lucid dream RV, how do you tell target data in the dream from just
dream "noise"?
Joseph_McMoneagle: There's very little dream 'noise' in a lucid dream. In fact, most people
who have had Lucid Dreams and who have not experienced an OB condition, will assume
they ARE experiencing an OB condition. Likewise, people who experience an OB condition
have little to differentiate that from a lucid dream. It's only someone who has experienced
both that can understand the difference. Which then becomes readily apparent. Lucid
dreaming is just that. It's being fully and totally awake -- in a dream state. Almost
impossible to differentiate between that and fully-awake functioning.
Palyne_Gaenir: Lyn Buchanan has mentioned 'the story stone' can be used as a defense
Joseph_McMoneagle: Speaking from my experience within a lab, that will have absolutely
no effect on a professional remote viewer. It may work with an amateur, or someone who
does not understand the difference between fictional stories and reality.
Palyne_Gaenir: When you say most of remote viewing time is the processing, do you mean
conscious processing? What about drawings?
Palyne_Gaenir: Do you ever get symbolic/analogical data? (Ed May refers to the possibility
of "allegorical" or "functional" data in a session in the CSL paper on FSA.)
Palyne_Gaenir: Do you sort through verbal and graphic impressions in your mind and
decide on those which pertain to the target? Put another way: do you record everything
that goes through your mind while doing a session?
Palyne_Gaenir: Some have noticed that on some of the American TV documentaries you've
been a part of, your results or work tend to be basic, somewhat general. The Japanese
ones, you do very thorough work. Is there a reason for this? Or does it depend on the
individual production?
Palyne_Gaenir: You say you don't teach. Will you take apprentices or tutor?
Joseph_McMoneagle: This is a good question because of the way it was asked and the fact
that it fits very neatly into how I personally believe information is accessed. It's my belief
that from the moment we become cognitive in the reality-world, the physical world, we
posses all of the information that we will ever require to function in our lifetime. The only
variable is when we have access to those specifics of information. We have access when
information directly relates to what is going on in our moment to moment cognition.
Understanding this and understanding that time and space are an illusion, opens the door
for accessing any information to which we will be directly related.
Palyne_Gaenir: So you "open the door" to psychic information; then you "analyze it?"
Joseph_McMoneagle: (thinking about this...) One could say that there might be a
perception of doing this, but in reality, all one is doing is talking to themselves about the
target. There's nothing wrong with this concept, provided you understand that the
answers you may be getting are directly influenced by your own perception.
Joseph_McMoneagle: If I had a clear answer for that I could make tens of millions of
dollars on that alone. That is the holy grail of remote viewing. To my knowledge there is
no way of doing this other than through the exercise of personal experience, and learning
to rely on one's ability.
Palyne_Gaenir: There are methods that some say the use of them reduces or eliminates
inaccuracy or noise. What about those?
Palyne_Gaenir: Do you think that having an NDE or something like that is necessary to
'open the door' to great skill? Has anyone tried to deliberately create near-death
experiences (NDEs) in order to kick-start or improve their psi/ Remote Viewing training?
Isn't this worth looking into?
Palyne_Gaenir: Do you 'feel' you 'know' when you are on target in a session?
Joseph_McMoneagle: I seldom know specifically when I'm on target or off target in most
cases. However there can be times when I will be working on a target and have a sudden
and complete understanding of the target itself, and 'know' that I am absolutely on the
target, and any information I'm producing is of high accuracy. These are extremely rare.
We call them the 'aha' sessions.
Palyne_Gaenir: In the context of ARV could you explain, do you think you manifest the
future outcome you want, or do you think the future is fixed?
Joseph_McMoneagle: Yes and no. I think that manifesting a future can be the perception
when you're correct about the target and everything works in ARV. In no case do I ever
believe the future is fixed or predetermined. The reason I say this is because when doing
an ARV target or any other kind of precognitive target, just because you're right doesn't
mean that this was the only possible outcome. What it means is that you were just lucky
enough to have chosen the one probable future that turns out to be correct. In other
words, when you're right you've made a wild, hairy-assed guess that turned out to be
correct. When you're wrong, you simply picked a probability that was not correct. Beyond
that there is no magic.
Palyne_Gaenir: What can one do in normal daily life to enhance one's RV abilities?
Meditation? Other?
Palyne_Gaenir: Do you still use a pendulum for dowsing or has the process become
"internalized" over time. What are some important things to remember when dowsing?
Palyne_Gaenir: What frequencies worked best for you as an individual? That Bob used on
Joseph_McMoneagle: All of the tapes produced by Robert Monroe and the Monroe
Institute are dependent upon the frequency following response (to Binaural beats), where
the left ear and right ear hear different frequencies and in turn this produce a third. When
Bob and TMI developed their tapes there were always multiple frequencies involved, that
because of their complexities produced interactive third-frequencies, etc.
Palyne_Gaenir: Generally speaking, how much if any "a-prior information" should be given
a viewer in operations / applications?
Joseph_McMoneagle: None. Zero. What you can do if the target requires a response or a
description of an individual, you can say, 'Describe the individual at (whatever location)'
and the location needs to be hidden (would be a number, for instance). If you were
targeting let's say a church, and there was an individual in that church, the church would
be coded as say, 'location A1'. It would then say, 'describe individual at location A1'. Under
no condition can you give any information that is directly pertinent to the target. There is
never any front-loading. the reason for this is because the entire concept of remote
viewing is that an individual is forced, has no choice, but to use their psi ability to answer
the requirement. Any info that is given in any way or form modifies that response in a way,
that removes/reduces the probability of accuracy.
Palyne_Gaenir: Surely you watch from afar at least sometimes, the RV field as a whole, I
mean all the aspiring viewers. Do you have any advice for them?
Joseph_McMoneagle: Sure, yes. My feeling based on what I've seen occurring in general,
with people who are aspiring to do the right thing, who want to become efficient, well-
exercised viewers, what everyone needs to understand here is that remote viewing, the
only difference between psi functioning and remote viewing is that the individual who's
attempting to be a viewer is operating within a requirement that they're totally
blind to the target BECAUSE that is a way of FORCING someone to rely totally 100% on
their psychic ability. The difficulty from my view is that in the vacuum or dearth of
information relating to appropriate remote viewing, a multitude of people have come
forward to say that you really need to do certain things to do that function, to be psychic.
You have requirements for XRV and just - a multitude of different things that claim, if
you don't do it this way, you can't hope to be a remote viewer, a good one. In fact, what
everyone should be striving to do is they should be striving to be as psychic as possible
under blind condition. Which means whatever it takes to understand how their mind
works when it's being psychic. Not how someone else believes their mind should work to
be psychic. As soon as you start buying into other peoples' perception about what you
should or shouldn't do, from a methodological standpoint, you're only confusing the
functioning with more rules, more fences, more requirements, none of which support psi
Palyne_Gaenir: The method you proposed to SAIC/ED May - do you know why this wasn't
adopted as 'the RV method' - did they give a reason?
Joseph_McMoneagle: The only proposal for training that I made was made to SRI-I and to
Hal Puthoff at the time of my retirement in 1984. I made no other recommendation to
anyone at SRI-I or SAIC other than they abandon the use of CRV, which I found was not
only a hindrance but destructive to the remote viewing process.
Palyne_Gaenir: Some people use CRV and do well. How does that jibe with your opinion?
Joseph_McMoneagle: It jibes perfectly with my opinion, in that I believe there will be some
people who use CRV and for which it works. But that doesn't mean that this will be of
value to anyone else. The problem here has to do with a misunderstanding of what
methodologies are all about. There is a huge effort to try and mix methodology with
Palyne_Gaenir: So you're saying the issue isn't any one method being better or worse, but
the paradigm that thinks that one needs a prepackaged method to begin with?
Palyne_Gaenir: Do you think that how your mind receives or processes psi data might
change over time?
Joseph_McMoneagle: It's my perception it's changing all of the time. The reason for this is
because the conscious mind believes that once you have learned something it's
unnecessary to relearn it. Unfortunately, in understanding psi information and translating
it, one has to deal with the conscious mind and the ego. As a result the methodology used
in that processing or translation of material, is constantly changing. Almost like a dynamic
language. A language of the mind, between the conscious and subconscious. As a result,
one is forced to constantly monitor the changes that are taking place in their own way of
Palyne_Gaenir: You say don't front-load but you say 'describe individual at location A1' -
that is a form of FL yes?
Joseph_McMoneagle: It does not tell you the location, or who or what the individual is. It's
a tasking methodology, a methodology for targeting. If -- I'm going to give a for instance...
in my search for missing people in Japan, what is laid in front of me as targeting info is a
sealed envelope. In that envelope is the name and approximate age of the targeted
individual. These individuals have been missing from 16-60 YEARS. Nobody has seen
them for that period of time. They could have changed their name, left Japan, they could
be anywhere in the world. What I am asked to do as specific targeting info, is "Give us the
location for the individual identified within the envelope." Now if someone can tell me
how that has given me anything that will help, I'd like to have them do that.
Palyne_Gaenir: Do you think numbers, words, logos, etc. are possible to obtain in RV? On
purpose?
Joseph_McMoneagle: There were numerous tests done at SRI-I in which attempts were
made to task 5-letter words. All were significant failures except for one, in which I was
able to produce 4 of the 7 words, some of which were spelled incorrectly or had letters
scrambled. All of the targeting was done double-blind other than 'tell me the word on the
board in building X.' That's the only successful passing of words that I'm aware of. There
were numerous attempts to produce accurate location through the use of GPS
coordinates. These were almost without exception abysmal failures. The probability of
understanding the words written on a sheet of paper in remote viewing is almost zero.
There is a capacity however for understanding 'conceptually' what the words written on a
paper might represent. These capabilities have been displayed through remote viewing.
Joseph_McMoneagle: Since it was so much work starting, how about you choose 10
questions that didn't get answered, I'll give you the info by email and you can post it on
the TKR site.
Joseph_McMoneagle: I found the questions to be revealing, to the extent that there are lots
of indications from people out there, that in many cases, there is a belief that there are
more accurate truths about remote viewing than really exist. It's probably because of the
intention of many to establish their understanding as paramount to someone else's. I
Palyne_Gaenir: Thanks for coming Joe. We really appreciate it!! It was great to have you!
Joseph_McMoneagle: Goodbye folks! I hope we can do this again sooner than later.
This interview is a part of the REMOTE VIEWING EXPO JULY 2009 held by TKR, the Ten
Thousand Roads Remote Viewing and Dowsing Project. Expo: http://www.dojopsi.com/rvexpo/ . The
page for Joe McMoneagle's materials/info is http://www.dojopsi.com/rvexpo/Joe/ . To talk more about
this conference or its ideas, visit the TKR Remote Viewing Forum at http://www.dojopsi.info/forum/. To
try some hands-on remote viewing, visit Viewer Studios and RV Galleries at TKR at the Dojo Psi, at
http://www.dojopsi.com/tkr/. To casual chat with other viewers, visit us Monday nights 8:30-10:30pm
Eastern at http://www.dojopsi.com/chat/.
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