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Ferri: Qualia), or Cognitive Functions
Ferri: Qualia), or Cognitive Functions
The subjective aspect represents the most central and evident fact of
human mental life. The terms commonly used to indicate it are, for example,
''I,,, "self," "consciousness," and "conscious experience." The present re-
search aims to verify whether people are able to point, through phenomeno-
logical procedures, to a precise seat where the "I" is located. We inquired
about consciousness as the I-that-perceives space dimensions with different
senses, and will not deal with emotions, feelings, or other types of subjective
experiences (the so-called qualia), or cognitive functions.
Philosophers and neuroscientists have regularly poured scorn on the
idea that consciousness might have a precise physical location:
You enter the brain through the eye, march up the optic nerve, round and round in the cortex,
looking behind every neuron, and then, before you know it, you emerge into daylight on the
spike of a motor nerve impulse, scratching your head and wondering where the self is. (Den-
nett, 1989)
'Address corres ondence to F. Bertossa, Centro Studi Asia, via h v a Reno 124, 40121 Bologna,
Italy or e-mail (~anco.bertossa@gmail.com).
Thanks to the volunteers and Loretta Secchi for recruitin blind subjects. Laura Podda cooper-
ated in the phase of collecting data; Paolo B. ~asarteli?,Ricardo Pulido, and Kristerfor T.
Mastronardi improved the text in English. Very special thanks to Nicholas Humphrey and John
Skoyles for having reviewed the manuscript, providin suggestions, and encouraging publication.
Thanks to the anonymous reviewers for their criticaf comments and suggestions. This work is
dedicated to the memory of Francisco J. Varela, whose studies on the first-person approach
provided the starting point for these investigations.
324 F. BERTOSSA, ET AL.
subjective consciousness would mean finding the "place" from which all ex-
periences occur apart from their sensory field of origin (sight, hearing, touch,
etc.).
Until now, few researchers (Petitmengin-Peugeot, 1999) have listened to
what people actually have to say about consciousness. Starting from the
assumption that the first-person subject should be considered an authority
on consciousness, we adopted the method of asking people about their lived
experience. Specifically, three issues were investigated: (1) can people na'ive
to phenomenological training about consciousness understand the question;
(2) can such people actually locate a precise seat for I-that-perceives; and (1)
is this ability independent of culture and sense of sight?
METHOD
A structured interview procedure was used within a phenomenological
"second-person" approach (Varela & Shear, 1999; Velmans, 1998, 2OOOb;
Vermersch, 1999), which involves an expert person acting as an intermediary
between the first-person experience of the volunteers and the third-person
report they make of that experience.
Participants
Fifty-nine sighted and blind volunteers were recruited and investigated.
(21 students, 32 employed, and 4 retired people; Mdn age=33 yr., range
18-66) Eighty-one sighted were recruited with a written announcement in a
university area; 54 were Westerners and five were non-Westerners (from
Morocco, Eritrea, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and the Philippines); this small num-
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ber of people from other cultures was recruited to assess possible cultural
attitudes in the localization of consciousness. Eight blind Italian volunteers
(five with acquired blindness and three with congenital blindness) were re-
cruited by contacting an association for the blind and included in the sam-
ple to verify whether the spatial localization of consciousness was based on
the sense of sight or not. None of the subjects were friends or acquaintances
of the interviewers, nor were they engaged in academic courses on introspec-
tion, phenomenology, or meditation.
Procedure
A first-person approach demands a phenomenological description of ex-
perience with precise distinctions, but in investigating untrained people, nei-
ther their accuracy in filling out questionnaires nor their frankness in verbal
accounts are sufficient to ensure that the experimental data stem from an au-
thentic and genuine examination of the conscious experience. To tackle this
problem, the volunteers were interviewed separately using a semistructured
interview following a methodology for second-person investigation (Ver-
mersch, 1999; Varela & Shear, 1999), with an expert person acting as an in-
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termediary between the experience in the first person of the volunteer and
the report in the third person of that experience.
The intermediary or mediator must be able to help each subject open
himself and self-observe the inner phenomenology. Through opportune ques-
tions (see transcription of interviews in Results), he must guide the process
of verbalization and make sure all the volunteers go through the same series
of steps. Mediators need an adequate scientific qualification and mastery of
the method, gained in several years of both philosophical (phenomenological
reduction) and pragmatic (mindfulness meditation) training (Bertossa & Fer-
rari, 2006). Only through systematic exercise is it possible to pass from "an
episodic incursion into consciousness" to the ability to stabilize attention in
a prolonged way on conscious experience (Varela, 1996). The training of the
mediator must be completed with the acquisition of empathic, communica-
tive, and listening abilities that are necessary to guide the volunteers to
produce a verbal report of their experience in the first person.
Steps and Thematic Areas of Interview
The interview was constructed using the three stages employed by Petit-
mengin-Peugeot (1999), and the three steps proposed by Depraz, Varela,
and Vermersch (2003). The first phase (thematic areas 1-3, see below) aim-
ed to produce a "suspension" of speculative thoughts and prejudices, thus
clearing the way for the volunteer to pay attention to his lived experience.
The second phase (thematic area 4) aimed to "redirect" attention from the
exterior to the interior, guided by proprioceptive sensations, while specifical-
ly avoiding engaging with their quality or content, so that attention could be
paid to their location and the "flow" of perception. The third phase (the-
matic area 5 ) asked volunteers to "let go" and be receptive to the emerging
experience, and so to make themselves open to the experience.
Each volunteer was introduced to the interview after sitting down, com-
fortably and quietly, and was requested to answer and follow the forthcom-
ing questions simply using direct perception, without any speculative atti-
tude. The interview protocol was not a questionnaire with a rigid series of
prearranged questions, but a semistructured sequence of thematic areas to
be discussed and examined thoroughly, favouring contents and their com-
pleteness. Every thematic area represented a stage of a logical and hierarchi-
cal succession where each issue had to be exhausted before going on to the
following stage (as in the example in Fig. 1). The specific contents of each
of the thematic areas were:
1. Visual (tactile) perception of space.-Volunteers were invited to recog-
nize the distance and location of simple objects with respect to the body.
2. Distinction of subject-object.-Volunteers were directed with ques-
tions to recognize the usual and na'ive experience of the difference between
a subject that perceives and an object that is perceived.
POINT ZERO
THE INTERVIEW
GOES ON
FOLLOWINQA
DIFFERENTCOURSE
T R I T O INDICATE WITH YW
FINOERS A PART OF YOUR
BODY THAT IS NETHER
OVER NOR UNDER NElmER
BEFORE NOR 0EHIND.
NEITHER ONTHE RIGHT
N O R O N W E LEFi WlTF CANNOT
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OF I-THAT-PERCEIVES
LOCATION
teers introduced during the interview to indicate this experience were "I,"
"centre of me," "here," and "my point of observation." In this work we use
the terms "I-that-perceives" and "point zero" to indicate the subjective loca-
tion of experience.
The significance of the results lies in the evidence that, since all con-
scious humans have a sense of "I," here for the first time there is large
consent in answering the question, "Where is the I-that-perceives," indicat-
ing a precise seat that is the reference point for conscious localization of in-
ternal and external objects in space.
QUALITATIVE DESCRIPTION
To provide a qualitative description of method and results, we w d
comment on some examples of thematic areas of the interview protocol and
then provide a description of the six cases in which the interviewed volun-
teers were not able to detect any seat of consciousness. Verbal descriptions
given by the eight blind volunteers and the five non-Westerners were com-
parable to those of the sighted and Western participants; the locations of
the "I-that-perceives" were completely similar and thus are described with-
out making any distinctions.
Thematic Area 1: Introduction to Perception of Space
Starting from the analysis of common and completely clear events, the
interviewer used simple exercises to create conditions that maintained the
volunteer's attention on his being-experiencing. It is necessary to separate
the phenomenological perception of space, resolving the difference between
the verbal report of a sensomotor or cognitive experience while in action as
compared to the description of other experiences to be suspended: memo-
ries about perception of space, beliefs, comments, judgments, and emotions.
For example:
Interviewer: Can you tell me if one of these two objects is closer and the other one is far-
ther?
Volunteer 46: The pen is closer and the plant is farther.
Through simple exercises of this type, it is easily highlighted that when we
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were asked to single out parts of the body that were perceived as closer and
farther in order to identify a course of gradual approach to the I-that-per-
ceives. (The following interchange is with respect to the "I.")
Interviewer: Is there a zone between your belly and your throat that you feel is closer?
Volunteer 46: The throat.
Interviewer: If you feel your mouth, where do you feel it?
Volunteer 46: Downward.
Interviewer: If you feel your scalp, where do you feel it?
Volunteer 46: Upward.
The course of approach to the "I" has been used to identify a precise spatial
trajectory between the subject and any object perceived. One achieves a
clear recognition of a trajectory in the perceptive flow of the conscious I.
The following step is the attempt to locate the "I."
Thematic Area 5: Attempt to Locate the Seat of Consciousness
Most of the volunteers gave descriptions with a high level of detail until
they indicated a precise seat inside the head at which the spatial trajectory
ended and where spatial perception had its origin.
Interviewer: When you draw your attention to your throat, from where do you perceive it?
Volunteer 46: From the head.
Interviewer: Try to indicate with a finger the direction from which you perceive the eyes.
Volunteer 46: From here [indicates with the finger a direction that goes from the centre
of the headl.
Interviewer: Try to keep your finger po~ntedlike you have done now.
Volunteer 46: Toward my point of observation?
Interviewer: Yes, exactly. Now try to indicate this "point of observation" using both
forefingers to create two imaginary lines that produce a system of orthogonal coordi-
nates.
Volunteer 46: [indicates a point inside the headl
Interviewer: This point that you are indicating inside your head, where do you feel it in
the space?
Volunteer 46: It is before.
Interviewer: Then try to move your coordinate system a little backward.
Volunteer 46: Here behind the ear [draws only the forefinger of the hand on the side of
the head a few centimeters backl.
Interviewer: Now are you indicating a different point from the previous one?
Volunteer 46: Yes.
Interviewer: Where is this point in the space?
Volunteer 46: Here, it is neither before nor behind.
Interviewer: Are you exactly indicating what you have called "my point of observation"?
Volunteer 46: Yes.
For Volunteer 47, a similar procedure was used, but with some small varia-
tions:
Interviewer: Try to feel your eyes. From where do you feel them?
Volunteer 47: [the subject has the eyes closedl From inside the head.
Interviewer: Try to indicate from where you feel them.
Volunteer 47: [subject indicates a point inside the headl
Interviewer: This point that you are indicating, do you feel it upward, downward, on the
right, on the left, over, or under?
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Interviewer: Now bend your arm and tell me if the hand is closer or farther.
Volunteer 44: It is closer when the arm is stretched.
Interviewer: Why?
Volunteer 44: I don't know, I feel it more mine, I feel it more.
Also with Volunteers 14 and 38, difficulties were observed in applying
the criterion of physical distance and a general difficulty in understanding
the questions exactly.
Interviewer: Now try to stand up and feel the floor; as compared to when you were sit-
ting, is it closer or farther?
Volunteer 14: Well, I feel it in the body, the floor, now, is a part of me.
Interviewer: Sit down now and try to tell me if you feel it closer or farther.
Volunteer 14: The sensation is different. I feel it, but I feel first the support of the chair,
and I am also more relaxed. I have a more widespread sensation and it is different
from before.
We highlight that when different difficulties emerged, they were often
linked to the entry into and persistence in thematic area number four, re-
lated to proprioception, perhaps because it is one of the less experienced
phenomenological issues in everyday life.
A sixth volunteer (No. 35), without presenting any contradiction or de-
scriptive inconsistency, denied the possibility of defining a location for the I-
that-perceives.
Interviewer: If you consider the terms "I" and "hand," "I" and "knee," "I" and
"mouth," is there a term that never changes?
Volunteer 35: "I," but should I locate it?
Interviewer: Yes.
Volunteer 35: 1 can't locate it. I point to it but I cannot locate it.
DISCUSSION
Human volunteers generally seem to find it easy and natural to locate
their centre of self, the place "I am" or the I-that-perceives. With consider-
able consistency, sighted or blind, Western or non-Western, it is placed
somewhere near the centre of their head. This seat corresponds to a "point
zero," the origin (O,O,O) point of a Cartesian spatial geometric framework,
whose axes are defined by the subjects' experience of what lies closer or far-
ther in front or behind, above, or below, where their sense of "I" and their
sense of "here" are felt to coincide. At the same time this sense of "from
where I perceive" remains always connected and distinct with respect to the
phenomenological thereness of "what I perceive." Thus this sense goes be-
yond an experience that can be reduced to a Cartesian dualism of subject
and object: remaining faithful to the field of phenomenology and of direct
experience, the point of departure of perception-even of a nonobject-is
reported to be inseparable from the objects perceived. It represents one
"pole" of what might be called the bipolar monism of experience (Bertossa &
Ferrari, 2002). This location is better understood within the context of at-
tention, requiring what might be called the open pole of hereness, from
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