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Long Term Deflection Analysis Using Csi Safe
Long Term Deflection Analysis Using Csi Safe
Long Term Deflection Analysis Using Csi Safe
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Updated on 08/12/2016: Illustration of the 2nd method of computing Long Term Deflection
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With reference to ACI 435R, §4.4:
“Because of the complexities involved in calculating twoway slab deflections, engineers have preferred to control
deflections by giving minimum slab thickness as a function of span length. Equations such as those in section 9.5 of
ACI318, as shown in Table 4.2, are based on experience gained over many years. The ACI 318 equations express
minimum thickness in terms of clear span between columns, steel yield strength, and flexural stiffness of edge
beams. The minimum thickness values are modified for the effects of drop panels and discontinuous edges. ACI 318
permits to use of thinner slabs if deflections are computed and found to satisfy the specified maximum permissible
values.“
In this post, I’ll try to explain step by step how two way slabs deflections shall be computed using SAFE software:
1. Immediate Deflections – No Shrinkage & No Creep
2. Long Term Deflections – Sustained Load with Shrinkage &Creep
1Immediate Deflections – No Shrinkage & No Creep
Here we have a simple slab of:
10.0m span in each direction
40 cm solid slab thickness
25 Mpa concrete compressive strength
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0.5 ton/m2 uniform loading under Super Imposed Dead load & 1 ton/m2 uniform loading of Live load
Supported on 4 edges by 80x80cm square columns.
This example is meant only to clarify how to compute the deflection using SAFE. However, there is more economical
solutions for such spans as post tension, hollow core slabs, etc.
Under Define – Load cases, we will define one load case called IMMEDIATE – ALL LOADS, where we will include of
load patterns ( Dead , Live & Super Imposed Dead loads) in one load case under Nonlinear (Cracked) analysis type.
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And in term of comparison, we will define a load combination that include all load patterns (Dead+Live+Super
Imposed Dead load).
It will be linear (NonCracked) Elastic load combination.
Now we’ll define the cracking analysis options under the Run menu, here we have 3 options to choose from:
User Specified Rebar
From Finite Element Based Design
Quick Tension Rebar Specification
In this example, we will choose “From Finite Element Based Design”.
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After running the analysis, here below are the results that we get under:
IMMEDIATE – ALL LOADS case = Maximum Deflection is equal to 5.6cm
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Elastic Load Combination = Maximum Deflection is equal to 2.8cm
Here we can notice that the deflection under NonLinear Crack analysis is around 2 times the deflection under Elastic
Linear load combination.
2. Long Term Deflections – Sustained Load with Shrinkage &Creep
Now, we will elaborate the deflection for Long Term cracked Deflection – Sustained Load with Shrinkage &Creep.
Longterm cracked deflection, in which analysis is divided into the following two categories:
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Nonsustained portion, in which crackedsection analysis considers only the nonsustained portion of LIVE
load, solving for incremental deflection.
Sustained portion, in which longterm cracked analysis considers the sustained loading from DEAD, SDEAD,
and a portion of the LIVE load. Creep and shrinkage are included only in this sustained portion of analysis because
these effects are only applicable under sustained loading.
Here I draw your attention that:
Shortterm concrete modulus = Elastic concrete modulus Ec(to)
Longterm concrete modulus = Ageadjusted concrete modulus Ec(t,to), given as:
For example, assume that 25% of the LIVE load is sustained. Analysis proceeds as follows:
Case 1: Cracked analysis for shortterm load with shortterm concrete modulus is given as DEAD + SDEAD +
ΨsLIVE, in which Ψs = 1.0
Case 2: Cracked analysis for permanent load with shortterm concrete modulus is given as DEAD + SDEAD +
ΨLLIVE, in which ΨL = 0.25 (ΨL = 0 if 100% of the LIVE load is nonsustained)
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Case 3: Longterm cracked analysis (with creep and shrinkage) for permanent load with longterm concrete
modulus is given as DEAD + SDEAD + ΨLLIVE, in which ΨL = 0.25
The value of total longterm deflection is then the combination of Case 3 + (Case 1 Case 2).
The difference between Case 1 and Case 2 represents the incremental deflection (without creep and shrinkage) due to
nonsustained loading on a cracked structure.
And here below how becomes our load combination under which will be conducted the long term cracked deflection
result.
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And the maximum deflection will be around 7.8cm
So now as a summary, here below are the maximum deflection results that we got for the time being:
Elastic (Linear) = 2.8cm
Immediate Deflections – No Shrinkage & No Creep = 5.6cm (50% increment from Elastic)
Long Term Deflections – Sustained Load with Shrinkage &Creep = 7.8cm (40% increment from
Immediate Deflections)
The procedure indicated above (Long Term Deflections) results on total long term deflection over time. Most
engineers simply check this values against ACI 318 Table 9.5(b), since this will always result in safe and conservative
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design. In order to remove portion of dead load deflection occurring before attachment of nonstructural elements, the
following procedure can also be used:
Case 4= Cracked analysis for permanent load with shortterm concrete modulus is given as DEAD + ΨDSDEAD, in
which ΨD = percentage of super imposed dead load present before attachment of non structural elements
Or Case 4= Cracked analysis for permanent load with longterm concrete modulus creep and shrinkage is given as
DEAD + ΨDSDE
D, in which ΨD = percentage of super imposed dead load present before attachment of non structural elements, and
say using a creep factor for 3 months.
The value of total long term deflection to occur after attachment of nonstructural elements is then the combination of
Case 3 + (Case 1 Case 2) Case 4
In our case we will define Case 4 like the following:
The deflection load combination will become like the following:
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And we get the following final deflection result:
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Maximum deflection will be equal to around 5.8cm
Updated on 08/12/2016: Illustration of the 2nd method of computing Long Term De ection
Even though this method is not recommended by the CSI, but I’ll explain it and we will check together the results:
A single load pattern is applied in a load case, then another case is set to continue From State at End of Nonlinear
Case.
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Add a DEAD load case using the Nonlinear (Cracked) option, starting with a Zero Initial Condition.
Add a SDEAD load case using the Nonlinear (Cracked) option, starting From State at End of Nonlinear Case DEAD.
Add a LIVE load case using the Nonlinear (Cracked) option, starting From State at End of Nonlinear Case SDEAD.
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The DEAD load case predicts cracking from a zero initial condition, in which no load is present, then computes
cracking due to DEAD loadpattern application. Adding SDEAD then uses the stiffness at the end of DEAD load case,
and contributes additional deflection.
And the maximum deflection will be conducted under the load case LiveLT = 5cm
But with reference to CSI this method is not recommended since the deflection result reports the total deflection
from both DEAD and SDEAD cases, however, the increase in DEAD load deflection due to additional cracking from
SDEAD load application is not recognized.
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Summary:
Elastic (Linear) = 2.8cm
Immediate Deflections – No Shrinkage & No Creep = 5.6cm (50% increment from Elastic)
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Long Term Deflections – Sustained Load with Shrinkage &Creep
(Case1 +Case3 Case2) = 7.8cm (40% increment from Immediate Deflections)
Long Term Deflections – Sustained Load with Shrinkage &Creep
(Case1 +Case3 Case2 Case4) = 5.8cm (less than 5% increment from Immediate Deflections)
Long Term Deflections – Sustained Load with Shrinkage &Creep
(2nd Method)= 5.0cm
Hopefully we could clarify properly how to compute the long term cracked analysis. If you have any question please
do not hesitate to drop it by comment below.
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(December 12, 2016 - 9:31 AM) Reply (http://siteground360.com/~zahib604/step-by-step-de ection-analysis-using-csi-safe/?replytocom=7687#respond)
Hello Zahi,
Thanks for posting this article. Where does CSI mention that the other method is not recommended? I’ve always used that method with no issues. If it’s not
recommended, I don’t see a reason why they have the “continue from state at end of non-linear case” option to begin with.
Regards,
Faris
I just read what they wrote and I agree that the way they did it does not recognize the additional super-imposed DL. The way I typically do it is different
and I believe it does encompass all de ections, I wish I can share an image. Thanks again for sparking the discussion.
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recommended from CSI. As the
de ection results reports the total
de ection from both DEAD and
SDEAD cases, however, the increase
in DEAD load de ection due to
additional cracking from SDEAD
load application is not recognized.
Anyway, upon your query, We have
updated the post above and
illustrate this second method of
computation for long term
de ection. You may check it above.
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