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Poster 07/02/2008 3:28 PM

Hai...

This is Prem from Qatar..........working as an Mechanical Engineer in Qatar Gas 3 & 4 Project.....

Recently when my colleagues & myself were discussing about Surface area calculation for ELBOWS and we found different
solutions within us..........

So i need your help regarding this issue......Please send me detailed calculation steps involved in elbow surface area
calculation.....

waiting for Your favour........

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Milo Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations..........


Guru 07/02/2008 9:03 PM

why not post your work so our experts can point out what they think is going on?

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Sparkstation Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations..........


Guru 07/02/2008 10:11 PM

Hello Guest,

As Milo states above, it would be best for you to publish your present calculations, then those may be discussed.

Meanwhile, a few general observations may assist.

Surface area for an elbow is proportional to inclination of the elbow with the surface, directly related to the pressure exerted
on the surface, the amount of available space on the bar-top has to be taken into account, along with the tipsiness of the
elbow owner.

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There may well be a more mathematically inclined Member here, who is able to put the above simplified explanation into an
expanded version, then into a proper equation, for future data processing.

Trust you have been assisted.

Kind Regards....

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NILOBA Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations..........


Active Contributor 07/02/2008 10:55 PM

well you can draw it and measure in a cad 3d software too...

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Codemaster Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations..........


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Location: Stoke-on-Trent, UK I agree with Milo's post #1.
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Good Answers: 127 But an elbow is part of a torus. Formula for surface area of a (whole) torus is well known and easy to work out from first
principles. Fraction of a torus = φ/360 where φ = nominal angle of elbow (45°, 90° etc).

Cheers........Codey

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cnpower Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations..........


Guru 07/03/2008 7:23 AM

Qatar, many chinese workers work there. I was told.

look at this web site for calculation surface.

http://www.webcalc.net/calc/0046.php

Surface area is commonly denoted for a surface in three dimensions,

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SANTHOSH Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations..........
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AvatarIndo Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations..........


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It's a great calculator website


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Posts: 29 It's mean, for an elbow, the result must be divide by 4

Thanks for nice info

Abdel Halim Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations..........


Galala 06/11/2011 3:43 AM

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Surface area of an elbow, S = ∏2 D R (θ/180),

where,

D = Elbow outside diameter

R = Radius of elbow

θ = Angle of elbow, in degrees


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Posts: 1734 L = Length of center line of elbow = 2 ∏ R (θ/360)
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∏ = Constant = 22/7 = 3.14 (created by Ancient Egyptians)

Derivation of equation: S = ∏ D L = ∏ D (2 ∏ R)(θ/360) = ∏2 D R (θ/180)

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Anonymous Re: Reg. Elbow Area Calculations.......... In reply to


Poster #1 11/19/2014 10:33 PM

Abdel can this equation be used for a rectangular radius elbow, meaning that the radius elbow is not a pipe but is actually a
rectangular shaped ductwork

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for a square elbow we need to know the angle, height width and inner radius of that elbow
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the total surface area will be the sum of areas of four sides

=the area of two curved sides + area of inner side + area of outer side

now the area of curved sides will be a1= 3.14( (r+h)² - (r²) )

there are 2 curved sides = a1 x 2

the inner side of the elbow will be a square with width w and we need to find the length

the length l = r x ∏/2 (considering the elbow with 90 degree )

area a2 = l x w

like that area of outer side will be a= L x w

where L = (r+h) x ∏/2

total area A = 2xa1+a2+a3

or A = (2x3.14( (r+h)² - (r²) )) + (( (r+h) x ∏/2) x w)+( r x ∏/2) x w)

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