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Roll Diameter Requirements in Converting Processes 2802.16.17 29 PDF
Roll Diameter Requirements in Converting Processes 2802.16.17 29 PDF
Converting Processes
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Roll Diameter in Converting Processes
v n
D ???
Starting Diameter
Running Diameter
Acceleration
Acceleration torque
Diameter
Taper Tension Acceleration precontrol
J total
Drive
V Speed setpoint
Web velocity
– –
Diameter Diameter
Override
J total
Inertia Calc
Gain
V Speed setpoint
Web velocity
– –
Diameter Diameter
PID
Dancer position fb
– Winder rot. speed
M
v n
D
Diameter Calc
Diameter
Web Direction
Bump Roll
Knife
Splice Mark
Unwind flying splice requires actual
Rotating roll diameter for firing the bump roll
Turret
and knife at their correct positions
and speed matching of new roll.
Turret Indexing
Nip
Tail Cutters
Depleting Roll
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Roll Diameter in Converting Processes
Rider Roll
Measurement - Sensor
Calculation
Measurement - Sensor
Layon Roll
Advantages
Layon Roll
Disadvantages
Diameter Sensor
Unwind
Ultrasonic Diameter
Sensor
Advantages
Tension
Controller
Diameter Sensor
Unwind
Ultrasonic Diameter
Sensor
Disadvantages
Diameter Sensors
A/D A/D
Acceptable for starting diameter but neither are practical for providing a
process running diameter
How to Calculate?
Calculation
Web Velocity / Winder Shaft Rpm (V/n) is the most common method of determining
Running roll diameter for center driven spindles.
Diameter (D) is determined by using the relationship between surface web velocity (v)
and the angular velocity of the spindle (ω ) with the calculation v/n.
Unwind
(n)
(V)
Tension Controller
(V/n) = Diameter
(V), (n)
Drive System
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Common Diameter Determination Methods
Set D
filter ms
0 - 100% 0 - Dmin% D
Vact hold
D(min%) - 100%
D(min%) &
n < D(min%)
filter ms
D(min%) - 100%
nact
Legend:
V: Line speed
n: Rotational speed
D: Diameter
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Common Diameter Determination Methods
Advantages
Disadvantages
Web
Tension Thickness
Controller
Turns
Advantages
Disadvantages
Two improved methods can utilized and offer several benefits over the
common diameter determination methods
S
r= ,D = 2*r
θ
The diameter is calculated based on calculated web length (S) and calculated
angular displacement of the spindle (Ɵ)
0
Nact Fine
interpolator
Sampling Time
Vact
Calculating with a web length and a spindle angle provides an increased stability of the
measurement and does not require the filtering that is used in v/n. The added stability of
this method is especially seen during acceleration and deceleration.
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Improved Methods of Diameter Calculation
Advantages
Disadvantages
Motion controllers and some drive control systems can provide the actual positions of
drives controlling the web and spindle
0
Spindle Angle Fine
interpolator
Web Length
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Improved Methods of Diameter Calculation
Starting Diameter
TECHNOLOGY
F
CONTROL
x x
High degree of accuracy!
Only possible with a position based
control
RED - V/n diameter Acceleration profile: 50 m/min > 300 m/min > 10 m/min
GREEN - INTEGRAL diameter
Update (sampling) time: 6 ms
BLUE - POSITION diameter
BLACK - Web Velocity
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Performance Review - Diameter Calculation Methods
RED - V/n diameter Acceleration profile: 50 m/min > 300 m/min > 10 m/min
GREEN - INTEGRAL diameter
Update (sampling) time: 1 ms
BLUE - POSITION diameter
BLACK - Web Velocity
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Performance Review - Diameter Calculation Methods
V
Web Velocity
Sample
Actual
t
n
Winder Shaft
Velocity
Sample
Actual
t
v1 v2 v3
Sample Periods
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Performance Review - Diameter Calculation Methods
CONSTANT SPEED
V
∆t t
∆s ∆s ∆s ∆s
∆t ∆t ∆t ∆t t
William Gilbert
Siemens Industry, Inc.
5300 Triangle Parkway
Norcross, GA 30092