Re Risk Assessment, Ensuring That It Is Suitable

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Fire Risk Assessment, Ensuring That It Is Suitable

And Sufficient
Niall Rowan
Technical Officer
Association for Specialist Fire Protection
Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Ensuring suitable and sufficient
FIA Risk Assessor CPD Training Day
Fire Risk Assessments
Fire risk assessment - Ensuring it is

suitable and sufficient
Niall Rowan
Technical Officer

Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005

(and national equivalents)
Best thing since sliced bread?
Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes......erm Maybe
What are the issues surrounding the legislation?

DIY Risk Based Legislation?
• Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005

• The Fire safety (Scotland) Regulations 2006, The Fire
(Scotland) Act 2005 (sections 53-59)
• The Fire Safety Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2010
• General Applications Regulations 2007 under the
Safety, Health and Welfare at Work Act 2005, Fire
Services Acts 1981 & 2003 (Ireland)

DIY MOT?

Can you imagine the Carnage ?

D.I.Y Manuals
• 5-step checklist
• Making your premises safe
• Do you have paying guests?
• Fire Risk Assessment - Offices & Shops
• Fire Risk Assessment - Sleeping accommodation
• Fire Risk Assessment - Educational premises
• Fire Risk Assessment - Healthcare premises
• Fire Risk Assessment - Theatres, cinemas and similar premises
• Fire Risk Assessment - Factories and warehouses
• Fire Risk Assessment - Transport premises and facilities
• And many more…
Fire Risk Assessors – What do they look like?

And the big names get it wrong…


The Dial Hotel and Market Inn, Mansfield
• 2 Pubs with hotel

rooms above
• 1 x 9 rooms
• 1 x 6 rooms
• There was no fire
• Responsible Person
and Fire Risk
Assessor both
prosecuted under
the Order

Inspection by Fire & Rescue Service
“Common sense breaches”:

• Locked exits
• Blocked stairways
• Inadequate Fire Doors
• Non maintained fire alarm
• Non maintained extinguishers
• Non maintained emergency lighting

Result of the prosecution?

David Liu – Responsible Person
• 8 months prison (down from 12 due to
guilty plea) and £15,000 fine
• Emergency lighting
John O’Rourke – Fire Risk Assessor
• 8 months prison (due to guilty plea)
£5,862 fine
• Wholly unsatisfactory risk assessment
• Failure to use relevant guidance
We all want it Good, Cheap & Fast

Innovative solutions to selling risk assessments…
Rats the way to do it!

Assessments that are out of this world…

OK so what is suitable and sufficient?

Use a ‘Competent Person’ then?

What does Competent look like ?

conscious
incompetent competent
A Z
unconscious

What does Competent look like ?

conscious
Apprentice Journeyman
incompetent competent
Novice Master
unconscious


The FRACC criteria…

• An understanding of the relevant current best fire
safety practices in premises of the type in question
• An awareness of the limitations of the fire risk
assessor’s own experience and knowledge
• A willingness and ability to supplement existing
experience and knowledge, when necessary, by
obtaining external help and advice



How do I achieve ‘competence’?
Experience Training
Education

1st and 2nd Party Registers

EN 45011 schemes (quality assurance)

BAFE SP 205

How do I choose ?

Some numbers
• Over 100 training providers in UK

• Varying standards
• FPA has trained in the region of 800
• Four main Fire Risk Assessor Registers
• More will come with take up of BAFE 2005


Advice from the prosecutor

• Know the legislation
• Know the guidance documents
• Qualifications/Training/CPD
• Competency
• Beware of precedents/templates
• Be premises specific
• Keep up to date
• Get experience
Summary
• Assessor must be competent
• Varies with the circumstances/premises
• Only use a consultant who is on a register
• Avoid checklists other than for simple premises
• Record the assessment
• Review the assessment
• RPs - Act on the assessment

Niall Rowan - Technical Officer

niall.rowan@asfp.org.uk
Kingsley House, Ganders Business Park, The Malt House

Kingsley, Bordon, Hampshire GU35 9LU Grand Canal Quay Dublin 2
ASFP Office Tel: +44 (0)1420 471612 ASFP Office Tel: +353 (0) 1 6791324
ASFP Office Fax: +44 (0)1420 471611
Website: http://www.asfpireland.ie/
Website: www.asfp.org.uk
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The Association for Specialist Fire Protection

Fire Risk Assessment, Ensuring That It Is Suitable

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Fire risk assessment - Ensuring it is

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005

Best thing since sliced bread?

Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes......erm Maybe

What are the issues surrounding the legislation?

DIY Risk Based Legislation?

• Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Can you imagine the Carnage ?

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Fire Risk Assessors – What do they look like?

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

And the big names get it wrong…

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

The Dial Hotel and Market Inn, Mansfield

• 2 Pubs with hotel

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Inspection by Fire & Rescue Service

“Common sense breaches”:

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Result of the prosecution?

We all want it Good, Cheap & Fast

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Innovative solutions to selling risk assessments…

Rats the way to do it!

Assessments that are out of this world…

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

OK so what is suitable and sufficient?

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

OK so what is suitable and sufficient?

Use a ‘Competent Person’ then?

What does Competent look like ?

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

What does Competent look like ?

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

The FRACC criteria…

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Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

How do I achieve ‘competence’?

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

1st and 2nd Party Registers

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EN 45011 schemes (quality assurance)

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Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

• Over 100 training providers in UK

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OK so what is suitable and sufficient?

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Advice from the prosecutor

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism

Niall Rowan - Technical Officer

Kingsley House, Ganders Business Park, The Malt House

Pioneering fire protection through innovation and professionalism