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For example, if people inherit two faulty copies of the gene for
haemoglobin, then they’ll unfortunately develop sickle-cell disease, a
condition in which the red blood cells are abnormally shaped. However,
having just one copy of this faulty gene provides resistance to malaria. This
gene prevents the infection from taking hold after someone has been
exposed to the pathogen. Sickle cell disease can shorten people’s lifespan
to as little as 40 years[R], but that’s a decent tradeoff for not dying in a just
a year or even a few weeks or days with malaria.
So, Is there some sort of tradeoff like this taking place in the people who
have the genes associated with depression?
To understand this, let’s look at not how we’ve lived, but how we’ve died.
Thanks to advances in science and medicine, death from a variety of
causes has been drastically reduced, and now the two main causes of
death in middle and upper income economies are heart disease and
stroke.[R] Though, we’ve only reached this level of progress relatively
recently. It wasn’t until 1876 that for the first time, a specific bacterium was
linked with a specific disease - this marked the golden age of bacteriology,
thanks to Robert Koch.[R] The idea that many diseases were caused by
microorganisms - “the germ theory of disease,” arose in 1546, but even as
late as the 1860’s, the prevailing idea was that bad air or bad smells
caused diseases like cholera or the black death.[R] This is why plague
doctors wore a bird looking mask with aromatic herbs in it to counter the
"evil" smells of the plague.
Unfortunately, what brought these life threatening diseases was human
progress - agriculture provided humans with enough food to drastically
increase the population, but it also increased the number of infectious
diseases. Pathogens that had once been exclusive to animals made their
way over to humans thanks to domestication. Cattle brought tuberculosis
and smallpox and pigs and ducks brought influenzas. Permanent
settlements and the conversion of forests to farmlands created warm
water-holes which were just right for mosquitoes to multiply and spread
malaria.
So what does all this have to do with depression? Well, consider this: as is
explained in this 2013 Molecular Psychiatry paper, 8 of the top 10 genes
associated with depression also have some sort of immune or inflammatory
function.[R] Which suggests that the consequence of the body being able
to better fight against pathogens or infections happens to lead to a higher
risk for depression. This concept is extensively explored in Charles Raison
and Vladimir Maletic's 640 page book titled “The New Mind-Body Science
of Depression.” To clarify though, this isn’t quite like the case of having
protection against malaria at the cost of getting sickle cell disease. The
genes associated with depression provide defense against infections, but
the depression is not just an unfortunate consequence, depression itself
would have actually helped deal with infections.[R]
That might sound a little far fetched, but for now take a moment and think
about how you felt the last time you were sick. If you’ve had the flu before:
You may have experienced a change in appetite and sleep patterns, you
probably had much lower energy levels, maybe were more irritable, didn't
have as much interest in daily activities and you probably weren't up for
going out and meeting new people. It’s not a perfect match, but behavior
and mentality during sickness looks a lot like depression. Flu symptoms of
feeling crappy, lethargic, and having a fever are not the effects of the
influenza virus itself but your body’s response to it.
Evidence for this is the surprising fact that depressed people have lower
levels of iron, and they have a higher body temperatures.[R] Higher body
temperature provides resistance to both viral and bacterial pathogens,
which is why we get fevers when we’re sick. But what does having low iron
have to do with an infection? Well, Iron is essential for the survival of nearly
all infectious microorganisms, so one immune strategy of the body is to
deplete its own iron stores to deprive these microorganisms of their
precious iron.[R,R2] In fact, it’s been found that if you supplement people
with iron while they have an infection, they are more likely to have worse
health outcomes or even die from that infection.
Now, infections can cause depressive symptoms, but doesn’t mean the
cause of most depressions nowadays is an actual infection. Rather,
something may be triggering the body to think it has an infection, so it starts
to act like it has an infection. And, Inflammation seems to be this trigger.
Studies have found that people with depression have higher biomarkers for
inflammation by up to 50%, and the risk of major depression increased as
biomarkers for inflammation increased.[R, R2] In one study, people were
injected with inflammation inducing substances. These people experienced
an acute increase in depressive symptoms like anxiety, feelings of social
disconnection and anhedonia - the inability to feel pleasure.[R]
One method of treatment for people with the hepatitis C virus infection is to
enhance immune function by giving these patients the inflammatory
cytokine interferon-alpha (IFN-α)- this was almost a miracle cure for the
hepatitis infection. But, people have to take it for weeks or months at a
time, and thanks to its potent inflammatory effect, it can induce clinical
depression. The rates for this have been reported to range from 20 percent
to as high as 82 percent of the time.[R, R2, R3, Raison, Maletic - pg 80]
It’s also well known that obesity is associated with depression, and the
higher your body mass index, the higher your risk for depression.[R] Then,
body mass index has also been shown to correlate with more inflammation;
This is in part because fat tissue can produce inflammatory cytokines.[R] A
paper in the journal “Biological Psychology” suggests that the underlying
link between metabolic syndrome and depressive symptoms is
inflammation.[R]
In fact, many of the known risk factors for depression also increase
inflammation:
-Medical illness
-Sedentary lifestyle
-Smoking and second-hand smoke exposure
-Obesity
-Air pollution
-Diminished sleep
-Social isolation
-Psychosocial stress
-Low socioeconomic status
-Change of seasons (e.g., winter in those with seasonal affective disorder)
-Diet (e.g., low ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acids, high-fructose
sugars)
I don’t know if the blood of prison inmates in solitary confinement has ever
been checked for inflammatory cytokines before, but we do know how
people’s bodies react to another type of social stress thanks to something
called the Trier Social Stress test. This is a test where subjects are put in
front of some very stone faced interviewers and asked to give a monologue
on something like pitching themselves for a new job. The interviewers are
instructed to make no facial reactions during the presentation, and make no
comments. If the subject finishes their speech too early, the interviewer will
simply say “You have more time, please continue.” After that they have to
count backwards from 1,022 in steps of 13 and if they mess up they have
to restart.
Having to sit through this kind of social pressure has been shown to cause
a 2 to 4-fold increase in the stress hormone cortisol.[R] And, This social
stress test also increases increases plasma concentrations of inflammatory
cytokines, especially one called IL-6.[R,R2] So what would be the point of
increasing inflammation when you are experiencing stress?
Well, one explanation is that violence in hunter gatherer times was a lot
more rampant than it is now. So, back then, when interacting with new
people, acting in the wrong way might result in you getting attacked. Then,
if you got of there without dying, you’d want your immune system to turn on
inflammation beforehand so it can be ready to fight against the pathogens
that could infect your potential wounds. And, not just social stress, other
things that would cause you to get stressed out very likely meant you were
in danger of getting wounded.
Luckily, nowadays, you can rest assured that you’ll be leaving a job
interview without any bloody gashes, but our bodies still react as though
that may be a possibility.
▪The reason for the lethargy is that limited metabolic resources can be
preserved and used for the energy expensive processes of fighting off
pathogens with immune activation and fever generation.[R] Raising the
body temperature is an energy expensive process.[R]
Then, social withdrawal and being less outgoing may have helped sick
people survive because it would limit a sick person’s contact with strangers
who potentially carried dangerous foreign pathogens that the sick person
would have had reduced immunity to. This is opposed to pathogens
present in the person’s home group that they would have developed some
adaptive immunity to.[R, R
aison, Maletic - Pg 474] An example of strangers
bringing dangerous foreign pathogens over was the European contact with
Native Americans where the novel diseases killed an estimated 90% of
Native Americans.
You may have heard about exercise being as effective or more effective
than some antidepressants.[R] There are a couple different mechanisms
through which exercise can help depression, but exercise also has
anti-inflammatory effects.[R]
And In one study, people were injected with the inflammatory cytokine
interferon alpha that normally induces depressive symptoms, but they were
also given the anti inflammatory omega-3 fatty acid EPA (which is found in
fish oil), and they didn’t experience the expected depressive symptoms.[R]
Thanks to the widespread use of vegetable oils, people nowadays are
getting far too many omega-6 inflammatory fatty acids and not enough
omega-3 anti inflammatory fatty acids.
Antidepressants are a touchy subject because they have really saved the
lives of some people, but there’s also strong evidence that suggests that
people become dependent on the drugs and the chance for relapse into
depression is far higher than if someone went without antidepressant
treatment. These are both points made in Robert Whitaker’s book. In the
case of Melissa, That initial prescription of Zoloft may have saved her life
because what alerted her doctor to her depression was a suicide attempt.
But, maybe Melissa could have been able to wean off the drugs if her
healthcare professional had her make some anti inflammatory lifestyle
changes.
The information presented in Charles Raison and Vladimir Maletic’s book
“The New Mind-Body Science of Depression,” and other sources provide a
new and intriguing way of thinking about depression. Rather than
depression being a disorder that arises due to a so-called chemical
imbalance in the brain, depression could be the body’s response to chronic
inflammation. Equipped with this way of thinking about depression,
hopefully people can take more safe and effective approaches to treating
depression.