8/28/2020 Podcast: Paul Gilroy and Adam Shatz · The Absurdities of Race · LRB 18 August 2020

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The Absurdities of Race

Paul Gilroy and Adam Shatz

Adam Shatz talks to Paul Gilroy about his intellectual background and the recent anti-racist
protests in the UK and US.

They discuss Gilroy’s experience growing up in North London in the 1950s and 1960s, the
in uence of African-American culture on his understanding of racial ordering, the role of Turner’s
painting The Slave Ship in the history of the ‘Black Atlantic’, the shi ing use of terms such as
‘racism’ and ‘anti-blackness’, and how the imminent threats of climate change might a ect racial
identity.

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You can watch Paul Gilroy’s Holberg lecture here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta6UkmlXtVo) , or

read it here (https://www.newframe.com/long-read-refusing-race-and-salvaging-the-human/) .

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