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Takeaways From Valuation Seminar by Damodaran PDF
Takeaways From Valuation Seminar by Damodaran PDF
January 2, 2018
Valuation is a craft
• ‘One hundred thousand lemmings cannot be wrong’
• But without being anchored by numbers, they are just fairy tales.
If you value something, you should be willing to
act on it…
• Theories will not get you there, they can just be guidelines. Real world needs
adaptive approach
• Pragmatism, not purity is the endgame. The era of Ready Aim Fire is gone
• Before you can act on your valuations, you need to have faith in
• In your own valuation judgments
• In markets: that prices will move towards your value estimates
• The IT Proposition: If “it” does not affect the cash flows or alter risk (thus
changing discount rates), “it” cannot affect value.
• The DUH Proposition: For an asset to have value, the expected cash flows have
to be positive some time over the life of the asset.
• The DON’T FREAK OUT Proposition: Assets that generate cash flows early in
their life will be worth more than assets that generate cash flows later; the
latter may however have greater growth and higher cash flows to compensate.
The Drivers of Value…
DCF Inputs- “Garbage in, garbage out”
• Measure earnings right
• The government bond rate is not always the risk free rate.
• Risk free rates will differ across currencies but valuation will be the same.
• No matter which estimate you use, recognize that it is backward looking, is noisy and
may reflect selection bias.
Dealing with Country Risk
• ERP for country = ERP for Mature Market + Default spread for country
• ERP for country = ERP for Mature Market + Default spread for country *( Std Deviation of
EquityCountry/ Std Deviation of Govt BondCountry)
• Assign country risk based upon your country of incorporation. But, under estimate the costs
of equity of developed market companies with significant emerging market risk exposure and
over estimate the costs of equity of emerging market companies with significant developed
market risk exposure.
• Overfunded pension funds, when pension assets > pension liability, can be
considered in valuation but with two concerns –
• Collective bargaining agreements may prevent claiming excess assets
• Often, withdrawals from pension plans get taxed at much higher rates.
• Do not double count an asset. If you count the income from an asset in your
cash flows, you cannot count the market value of the asset in your value.
• The “sunny” side of distress: Equity as a call option to liquidate the firm
Dark side: valuing difficult companies
• Valuing cyclical and commodity companies –
• The best (though not easiest) thing to do is to separate your macro views from your micro
views. Use current market based numbers for your valuation, but then provide a separate
assessment of what you think about those market numbers
• Do valuation based on normalized assumptions (margins) derived from a long cycle including both
economic and down trend. But don’t average out things that cannot be averaged out.
• With expected commodity price you may find the company undervalued but it’s not the value of the
company, it’s the value of commodity.
• To incorporate commodity price in valuation – use probabilities tools like Monte Carlo
• Private owner fully invested in private company can’t diversify firm specific risk
• Market beta calculated from market data needs to be adjusted to get total
beta
• Total Beta = Market Beta/Correlation of the sector with the market
The Dark Side of Valuation
• The reported financials need to be verified
• Different Accounting Standards
• Intermingling of personal and business expenses
• Separating “Salaries” from “Dividends
• The Key Person issue
• Check the narrative against history, economic first principles & common sense
• Possible event – Value as option
• Plausible event – Show as expected growth, adjusting from risk in expected return
• Probable event – Show in base year number and expected cash flow
NARRATIVE AND NUMBERS: VALUATION AS A
BRIDGE
• The impossible
• Bigger than the economy
• Bigger than the total market
• Profit margin > 100%
• Depreciation without capex
• The implausible
• Growth without reinvestment
• Profits without competition
• Returns without risk
• The improbable
• High growth and low risk
• High growth and low reinvestment
• Low risk and high reinvestment
NARRATIVE AND NUMBERS: VALUATION AS A
BRIDGE
• Keep the feedback loop
• Value of company = aggregate value of users – other non user specific costs
Valuing Financial Service Companies
• Financial service companies are opaque (no clue about asset quality and
assumption is cash flow will be disburse as dividend)
• Even most of the valuations claimed to be DCF are actually hidden multiple
valuations
• No one is going to listen if you starts telling your assumption in your sell
speech
• Everyone wants to listen that this asset is cheaper than most of the assets
How to Price
• 4 steps of deconstructing
• Define Multiple
• Describe the Multiple
• Analyze the Multiple
• Apply the Multiple
• 2 Definitional Test
• Is the multiple consistently defined
• Analytical test
• What are the fundamentals that determine and drive these multiples
• How do changes in these fundamentals change the multiple
Conventional Usage
Sector Multiple Used Rationale
Cyclical Manufacturing PE, Relative PE Often with normalized earnings
Growth firms PEG Ratio Big differences in growth ratio
Young growth firms w/losses Revenue Multiples What choices do you have?
Infrastrucre EV/EBITDA Early losses, high DA
REIT P/CFE ( CFE = NI+ Dep) Big dep charges in Real Estate
Financial Services Price / Book Equity Market to Market?
Retailing Revenue Multiples Margin equalize or sooner
Closing Thought