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Troubleshooting
G3500H Generator Set Engine
Media Number -M0074324-00 Publication Date -01/11/2017 Date Updated -29/11/2017

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Detonation Occurrence
SMCS - 1223-035; 1559-035

Use this procedure to troubleshoot a detonation occurrence. Also, use this procedure if one of the following
event codes is active or logged.

Any alarm that is generated by the detonation detection system must be investigated. The cause of the alarm
must be identified and corrected.

Table 1
J1939 Code and Description Comments

The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.

Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1352-0
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #1 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - most severe (3)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1352-15
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #1 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - least severe (1)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1353-0
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #2 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - most severe (3)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.

The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.

Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1353-15
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #2 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - least severe (1)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
1354-0 The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
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Engine Cylinder #3 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1354-15
Engine Cylinder #3 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1355-0
Engine Cylinder #4 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1355-15
Engine Cylinder #4 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1356-0
Engine Cylinder #5 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1356-15
Engine Cylinder #5 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1357-0
Engine Cylinder #6 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1357-15
Engine Cylinder #6 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1358-0
Engine Cylinder #7 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
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Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
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(1358-15)
Engine Cylinder #7 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1359-0
Engine Cylinder #8 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1359-15
Engine Cylinder #8 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1360-0
Engine Cylinder #9 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1360-15
Engine Cylinder #9 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1361-0
Engine Cylinder #10 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1361-15
Engine Cylinder #10 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1362-0
Engine Cylinder #11 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1362-15
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to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
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Engine Cylinder #11 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1363-0
Engine Cylinder #12 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1363-15
Engine Cylinder #12 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1364-0
Engine Cylinder #13 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1364-15
Engine Cylinder #13 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1365-0
Engine Cylinder #14 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1365-15
Engine Cylinder #14 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
1366-0
Engine Cylinder #15 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1366-15
Engine Cylinder #15 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
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Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
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to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.

The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.

Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1367-0
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #16 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - most severe (3)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1367-15
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #16 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - least severe (1)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.

The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.

Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1368-0
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #17 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - most severe (3)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1368-15
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #17 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - least severe (1)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1369-0
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #18 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - most severe (3)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.

The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.

Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1369-15
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #18 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - least severe (1)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1370-0
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #19 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - most severe (3)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.

The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.

Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
1370-15
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
Engine Cylinder #19 Knock
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
Level : High - least severe (1)
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
1371-0 The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
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Engine Cylinder #20 Knock
Level : High - most severe (3)
1371-15
Engine Cylinder #20 Knock
Level : High - least severe (1)
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.
The level of detonation has exceeded the trip point.
Maximum retardation of the timing was unable to control the detonation
adequately during the number of ignition sparks that are allowed.
The engine performance may be affected by an adjustment of the timing
to reduce detonation.
The code is logged.

Probable Causes
Codes

Air/Fuel ratio

Engine overload

Cylinder misfire

Inlet air temperature

Detonation sensor

Coolant

Excessive deposits

Valve lash

Note: The situation is unlikely to have a failed detonation sensor if a detonation event is only being detected
at one cylinder. Detonation sensors are shared between two cylinders. A false detonation event due to a failed
sensor would affect both cylinders being monitored by that sensor.

Recommended Actions
Table 2
Troubleshooting Test Steps Values Results

Result: An associated code

is active.
1. Check for Codes
Repair: Troubleshoot any
A. Connect Cat® Electronic Technician (ET) to the service associated codes before
tool connector. Codes continuing with this test.

B. Look for active codes that are associated with the system Result: A code is active or
for the event code. logged.

Proceed to Test Step 2.

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2. Check the Air/Fuel Ratio Air/Fuel Result: The air/fuel ratio is

Ratio OK.
Note: An air/fuel mixture that is too rich will cause
detonation. A change in the fuel energy content will change Proceed to Test Step 3.
the air/fuel ratio.
Result: The air/fuel ratio is
A. Obtain a fuel analysis. NOT OK.

Note: If the quality of the gas is inconsistent, obtain several Repair: Use Cat ET to
analyses over a time. program the results for the
"Fuel Specific Heat Ratio",
B. Enter the data into Caterpillar Software, LERW4485, "Fuel Quality", and "Gas
"Gas Engine Rating Pro (GERP)". Specific Gravity"
parameters. Refer to
C. Verify that the fuel supply pressure is adequate and Systems Operation,
stable. "Electronic Control System
Parameters" for additional
D. Verify that the exhaust emissions are correct. information.

Program the "Fuel Quality"

parameter to the average
value of the LHV. Adjust the
engine operation according
to Testing and Adjusting,
"BTU and Precombustion
Chamber Adjustments".

If the problem is not

resolved, proceed to Test
Step 3.

Result: The engine is not

being overloaded.

Proceed to Test Step 4.

3. Check for Engine Overload
Result: The engine is being
Note: When the load that is applied to the engine is too overloaded.
Load
large, the engine will run in the lug condition. When the
engine is running in the lug condition, engine rpm does not Repair: Reduce engine load
increase with an increase of fuel. to an acceptable limit.

If the problem is not

resolved, proceed to Test
Step 4.

4. Check for a Cylinder Misfire Misfire Result: There is not a

cylinder misfire.
Note: Cylinder misfire can lead to detonation for an engine
that is heavily loaded. Proceed to Test Step 5.

Result: There is a cylinder

misfire.

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Repair: Troubleshoot the

cause of the misfire. Refer to
Troubleshooting, "Engine
Misfires, Runs Rough, or Is
Unstable" for additional
information.

If the problem is not

resolved, proceed to Test
Step 5.

Result: The inlet air

temperature is OK.

Proceed to Test Step 6.

Result: The inlet air

5. Check for High Inlet Air Temperature
temperature is NOT OK.
A. Check for high inlet air temperature. Air
Repair: Determine the
Temperature
reason for high inlet air
B. Check for a restriction to the air flow through the
temperatures. Repair or
aftercooler.
replace damaged
components.

If the problem is not

resolved, proceed to Test
Step 6.

Result: The detonation

sensor torque is OK.

Proceed to Test Step 7.

6. Inspect the Detonation Sensors
Result: The detonation
A. Check the detonation sensors torque. sensor torque is NOT OK.

Note: The detonation sensors torque to 15 ± 3 N·m Sensor Repair: Troubleshoot the
(11 ± 2 lb ft). circuit for the detonation
Note: The situation is unlikely to have a failed detonation sensors, if necessary. Refer
sensor if a detonation event is only being detected at one to Troubleshooting,
cylinder. Detonation sensors are shared between two "Detonation - Test" for
cylinders. A false detonation event due to a failed sensor additional information.
would affect both cylinders being monitored by that sensor.
If the problem is not
resolved, proceed to Test
Step 7.

7. Check for Coolant in the Cylinders Coolant Result: Coolant is not in any
cylinder.
Note: Sometimes, detonation can occur if a solution of
water and glycol leaks into a precombustion chamber and Proceed to Test Step 8.

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the coolant is burned. If a water/glycol solution is used,

monitor the cylinder exhaust port temperature. If the Result: Coolant is in a
temperature is higher than the average, inspect the cylinder cylinder.
for evidence of coolant leaks in the precombustion chamber.
Repair: Investigate the
Note: Significant leaking of any type of coolant will cause cause of the condition. Make
the cylinder to misfire. repairs, as needed.

If the problem is not

resolved, proceed to Test
Step 8.

8. Inspect for Excessive Deposits in the Combustion Result: Deposits and/or

Chamber signs of internal leaks are
not found.
A. Overfilling of engine oil can lead to deposits. Check the
oil level. Proceed to Test Step 9.

B. Use a borescope to inspect the cylinders. Look for the Result: Deposits or signs of
following conditions: internal leaks are found.
Deposits
- Deposits on the valve seats Repair: Investigate the
- Deposits on the valve face cause of the condition.
- Deposits on the cylinder walls that are above the upper Repair or replace damaged
limit of the piston stroke components.
- Signs of internal leaks
If the problem is not
Note: Signs of internal leaks include excessive consumption resolved, proceed to Test
of engine oil, blue smoke, and excessive detonation. Step 9.

Result: The valve lash is

NOT OK.

Repair: Reset the valve

lash. Refer to Testing and
9. Check the Valve Lash
Adjusting, "Valve Lash and
Valve Lash Valve Bridge Adjustment
Note: The valve lash can affect the performance of the
(Gas Admission Valve
engine.
Lash)" for additional
information.

Verify that the repair

eliminated the problem.

If the procedure did not correct the issue, contact your Cat dealer Technical Communicator (TC). For further
assistance, your TC can confer with the Dealer Solutions Network (DSN).

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