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Peter Scholze Sweeping Connection Betwee
Peter Scholze Sweeping Connection Betwee
Geometry.
Mathematical Thought.
In 2010, a startling rumor filtered through the number theory community and
Bonn in Germany had written a paper that redid “Harris-Taylor”—a 288-page book
22-year-old student, Peter Scholze, had found a way to sidestep one of the most
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complicated parts of the proof, which deals with a sweeping connection between
— is only a few years old, but it already has far-reaching ramifications in the field of
arithmetic geometry, where number theory and geometry come together. Scholze’s work
has a prescient quality, Weinstein said. “He can see the developments before they even
begin.”
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Many mathematicians react to Scholze with “a mixture of awe and fear and
has written joint papers with Scholze.” It’s because of his unnerving ability to see deep
wants to solve, but with some elusive concept that he wants to understand for its own
sake. But then, said Ana Caraiani, a number theorist at Princeton University who has
collaborated with Scholze, the structures he creates “turn out to have applications in a
million other directions that weren’t predicted at the time, just because they were the
somehow moving beyond them and directly towards making explicit various
“ideas” of his have a status that is meta mathematical that is brought to bear, it
It is our hope that he is also, at the same time, by delving into foundations of
mathematics, he is not opening new doors for those pursuing those foundations
considerations, which have long been snared in what were considered to be self-
evident rituals and formalism going back to the axiomatic framework of Euclidean
geometry
“Scholze set himself the task of sorting out why this infinite wraparound
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easier. In mathematics, the p-adic number system for any prime number p extends
the ordinary arithmetic of the rational numbers in a different way from the e old
numbers are an esoteric and to, the layman outside mathematics, a rather bizarre
notion to which Scholze has apparently added some vital further significance.
These numbers have been known for many years, although not to the general
population.
consider the well known “rational numbers”, there are only two kinds of numbers
which can be generated from rationals, the ‘realsʼ and “the p-adics”. The P-adics
are therefore in privileged and good company and not merely a quirky flight of
1897 .The advent of the p-adic numbers was motivated primarily by an attempt to
bring the ideas and techniques of power series methods into number theory. Their
influence now extends far beyond this. For example, the field of p-adic analysis
essentially provides an alternative form of calculus.Yet we for the most part have
no clue about this other class of numbers, and certainly no clue about how they
might reality to our concerns with “reality” or “knowledge of the world”. Just
about everything we generally talk about has to do with the ‘real numbersʼ
Scholze began doing research in the field of arithmetic geometry, which uses
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exponents. By the time he reached the age of 24, high-level conference invitations
to talk about the uses of perfectoid spaces had enshrined Scholze as one of the
Scholze, in the video interview we include, explains that “most math takes
place among the real numbers…what you are used to from school…Number theory
just deals with the integers…1,2,3, etc…. and we donʼt care about the
where the gaps lie, and which numbers are close to each other: In a p-adic number
system, two numbers are considered close not if the difference between them is
small, but if that difference is divisible many times by p, “ says Scholze. Itʼs a
strange criterion, but a useful one. The 3-adic numbers, for example, provide a
natural way to study equations like x2 = 3y2, in which factors of three are key.”
The p-adic number system for any prime number p extends the ordinary arithmetic
of the rational numbers in a different way from the extension of the rational number
system to the real and complex number systems. The extension is achieved by an
adic numbers have the interesting property that they are said to be close when their
difference is divisible by a high power of p: the higher the power, the closer they are.
This property enables p-adic numbers to encode congruence information in a way that
turns out to have powerful applications in number theory—including, for example, in the
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Interview Video with Peter SCHOLZE:
We think readers will find, as we did, the written interview (above) to be interesting…as
it weaves in and out concepts which we only have the faintest glimmer about, but
But in this the video interview we catch nothing less than the young genius
mathematician right out of “central casting”.. He switches on and off right before our
eyes…morphing out of mortal form…as his own eyes shift into focus somewhere else
words whose meaning almost no one else on the planet knows for sure yet.
We find ourselves hoping that unlike so many of the great math geniuses he has not
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For some equations of this type, it is fruitful to study whether they have
solutions among alternative number systems called p-adic numbers, which, like
the real numbers, are built by filling in the gaps between whole numbers and
fractions.
Our minds in todays world have learned to work….at least most of our minds…in
terms of the constraints and falsely presumed “self evidence” of the basic Euclidean
axioms, so called, because they were so obvious they did not require any justification.
either “rational numbers” or via “reals”, the discrete or the continuous, is not only the
‘natural” way to confront and think about he world but that it the ‘only” way to confront
and think about the world . Of course, that “self evidence” is precisely what demands
questioning of its self evidence; and regrettably that self evidence works, of course, to
preclude such considerations. But every once in a while, someone comes along.
As we note below, that happened with Turing, and he began to open the door to a
new sense of our being in the world. Now, in many ways, we see Scholze as further
pushing that door open. Discussing mathematics with Scholze is like consulting a
going to work,’ you can be confident of it; if he says no, you should give right up; and if
he says he doesn’t know — which does happen — then, well, lucky you, because
Whatever may be said about our world and our state in it in this current time of
civilization is, we believe, somehow and in some deeper way categorically and
speak about our presence in the world. The so called “geometry” and the way it
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was presented became the backbone of the Aristotelian metaphysics and all that it
adic numbers become easier if you expand the p-adic numbers by creating an
infinite tower of number systems in which each one wraps around the one below it
p times, with the p-adic numbers at the bottom of the tower. At the “top” of this
infinite tower is the ultimate wraparound space—a fractal object that is the
With p-adic numbers, on the other hand, we choose to extend the base p
determined by how far they are from zero, the "size" of p-adic numbers is
determined by the p-adic absolute value, where high positive powers of p are
relatively small compared to high negative powers of p. P-adic numbers are “far
removed from our everyday intuitions,” Scholze said. Over the years, though, they
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have come to feel natural to him. “Now I find real numbers much, much more
confusing than p-adic numbers. Iʼve gotten so used to them that now real numbers
foundational metaphysics of our age, which we take for granted to such an extent
that we donʼt even realize that it is a “metaphysics”, and an old one at that…. is a
fairy tale...and that folks like Scholze are the ones capable of helping us, all of us
in the areas of science and philosophy, to see through it. That their work relates
to Fractals is what our skeptical "idiot savant's view of the world would predict.
This makes us optimistic that there is support out there, albeit in realms we
cannot navigate ourselves, for our skepticism about the nature of the concepts of
'space" and time" and how a fractalized view of the universe is MORE fundamental
than the standard, age old Euclidean view...that then became the model for our
metaphysics via Aristotle….and since has become the basis of the way we
is not surprising at all to us and in fact an aspect of further support for pursuing a
further articulation of an alternate view of the relation between the discrete and
the continuous, the rationals and the reals, that the "p-adic" number approach can
equally well, perhaps better, lead to an alternate way of founding the “calculus"
and, thus, on the levels of the ordinary world where calculus has applied to well,
that p adics could offer solutions that might have additional implications beyond
that we now derive from the use of the “reals” in founding our calculus. “There are
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many parallels between this p adic story and this other story with which we are
more familiar.,” Scholze says in his video, “and it turns out that there are some
been locked up inside a Euclidean conceptual cage for more than two millennia it
is not surprising that there is no general formalism for Scholze's ideas. Scholze
set himself the task of sorting out why this infinite wraparound construction makes
so many problems about p-adic numbers and polynomials easier. “I was trying to
formalism that could explain it.” He eventually realized that itʼs possible to
about polynomials from the p-adic world into a different mathematical universe in
which arithmetic is much simpler (for instance, you donʼt have to carry when
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“Perfectoid spaces stand at the crossroads where topology, Galois theory,
that they provide a way of "thinking"...not just for mathematicians...but for all of us
can say that they present a novel way of understanding the relation between the
integers and rationals and the real numbers, surely that is also giving us a glimpse
"reality"....the discrete and the continuous, which was the problem that Turing was
focussing upon in his last years. The speaking of the world in terms of
domains….of domains, for example, of the discrete and the continuous, strikes us
as grossly inopportune.
When we look at the way our brains function, they seem to have an
extraordinary way of moving back and forth in regard to the brainsʼ “minding”,
expressed in terms of the continuous or the analog. These are no domains at all,
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Then when we ponder that our brains are organized entities within which the
have to wonder how it manages to sustain two such inextricably related but
If the brain can conduct itsʼ “minding” in this way, and as we much assume, in
some fashion that is syngergistic and coordinated, then the relations of which
Scholze speaks must somehow lead to a narrative that allows for fluid conversion
between the two modes of speaking. That is to say, there must be some harmony
in nature, at least minimally within our human nature, as exemplified by our brainʼs
“The weirdest property about perfectoid spaces is that they can magically
move between the two number systems,” Weinstein said. "Moving between
number systems" may be the way mathematicians refer to it, but for us it is moving
and space, just as surely as it replaces the relation between integers and
new forms of expression decades and even centuries before physicists or other
scientists come to realize that those formulations are applicable. And then that
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the force of those mathematical notions to alter their own everyday view of the
are considered "savant'...and surely many would agree with the estimate of our
ideas as being those of the former...but we cannot help but thinking of the
pretty much are nothing more than the translation of these mysterious numerical
visual and beautiful patterns. The displays of the Mandelbrot sets trigger in us the
recognition of Arthur C Clarke, in his video presentation on the Mandelbrot set and
geometry.”
Euclids notions and the entire tacit presuppositional structure which those
notions carried with them worked well enough in ancient Greek times, suitable for
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agriculture and building tables and chairs, and then for the construction of a wide
range of “machinesʼ of all sorts, all of which could be well handled by Euclidean
geometry and its favored son, Newtonian Mechanics and the achievements of man
made products that led to the Laplacian determinism, and the understanding of
the universe as running very much like a “clock”. However if we look at nature, as
it has been embodied by the study of organisms or medicine or any forms of life,
the tacit but nonetheless operative Euclidean framework of ideas in which we have
everywhere we look our world is not ‘man made” and thus likely not amenable to
Euclidean thinking and most importantly not amenable to the tacit ‘axiomatic
dogmas” upon which it is based. We, of course have not known what to say about
on our planet. Let us include on the ledger side of nature, as well, the gamut from
galaxies and black holes to photons and electrons and quarks and so on. These
geometry is only one approach to the world and one that has insinuated itself into
all our thinking about the world or our own place within it, why should we not
expect to find reward in the exploration of the fractal geometry with which we are
“life” “mind” and even black holes and photons. These are all “nature “ and not at
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Where ”Closeness” is not defined by smaller distance…but by a patterning of
of operations of P-adic nature …. for us that means that “time” and the instant
and that thus there is something New in the World…..The concept of "TIME" itself
stunned to realize that, if their lives depended upon it, they could not make clear
at all….or even for an instant….what they might mean by the use of the term
“instant”. Yet, the reliance upon the notion of the “instant” is the great divide
between the experience of continuity and duration of the river of time, on the one
hand, and the experience of the isolation of the discretely defined droplets of that
some “itzy, bitzy teenie weeniest “stretch of time….do we come by it that way….as
an infinitesimal. That is what we have believed since Euclidʼs era. But what if an
instant can contain more than we can possibly imagine…and indeed, that is not
saying nearly enough, since by definition the instant can contain no happenings at
all. Zeno was not far from the truth when he presented Aristotle with the paradox
of how you can cobble together instants where nothing can happen to yield up a
finished occurrence, or event in the world of happening. Our science relies, for
the most part, on fabricating a ‘notion” of instant, by means of some never clear
required to justify the use of the notion of “instant”. In fact, the instant as used is
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not defined in any way more sophisticated than precisely “when nothing
instants are considered then we can indeed, much like Euclid, be able to draw
some straight line between them, or, draw some conclusions about what
happened between those two privileged oases of “non happening”. We call them
oases rather than “moments” precisely because they are not properly considered
as points anywhere along that line of time, but are more like ‘oases” the sense of
being mirages in the minds of the observing scientist. Whereas the claim we are
making here…on the basis of how we see the term “instantʼ used is that it is of use
the sense of distance between ‘points in time” we now as instants, but some other
The reader may be a bit puzzled at our using the “instant” in a manner which
is not tied umbilically to the minimization of distances along a space like “line” of
time passage. However, to illustrate the usage, which is far more widespread than
we might suspect, we can point to either Alan Turing or Charles Darwin, both of
whose narratives rely on a notion of ‘instant” that is liberated from the prevailing
As we consider their work here, only ever so briefly to highlight this tragic-
productive scientific theorizing, and, indeed, among the two most productive
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narrative produces in the last several centuries, what a relief it is to not here
or, as physics has found much to its ongoing current frustration and
same sentence with the notion of “instant” as defined in the ancient Euclidean
modeling..
instant?”….if one took that “slice” or “froze time”. The instant is nothing more than
the use of the notion of ‘instant” would not be relevant at all. But that is not to say
that this ‘gap” would not be amenable to treatment via another more sophisticated
Now, both Turing and Darwin as they developed their narratives, both indeed
had some remarkableʼ gaps” that their particular “instants” afforded them the
luxury of utilizing. For them the “instant” as we refer to it “as a gap” was a
was not a “momentʼ of the sort at which anything was ‘observed” or “observable”
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parenthetically note here that the predicament of the positioning of talk of the
For Turing, his story of the “Turing Machine” directly embodies a progression
length and potentially “infinite” and which simply is defined as advanced from
section to section of the tape as a roll of paper would through a printing device.
The flow of the tape is not at all ‘within” time and is not measurable as having any
cannot say ..and is not interested in saying….what might happen between the
presentation of each successive section of the tape for “reading” and typing”.
What happens happens only within the particular segment of tape, and again there
discussing events on the level of depiction in space and time that a typical
which to speak about “intelligence” in this ideal “Machine” which is anything but
an actual machine, since those are very much constrained by Euclidean time and
space measures.
Seemingly far from Turing is Charles Darwin and the mode of speaking which
have that preference because for us Darwinian theorizing (in its original form as
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put together by Darwin) is very similar to “Darwin acting like a Turing Machine”.
What we mean by this is that Darwin had rather realistic awareness of his
limitations as an observer and of the limitations of both the evidence that might be
found in some Euclidean modeled theoretical landscape. For him, the equivalent
generations. Each such ‘tick” was posited as beyond the narrativeʼs reach in
might have had and whatever assemblage of events it might have contained in
stories told about it was not situated in any particular time flow. It was defined as
What happened was due to the time between instants…and instead of the
tape being typed upon in Turing, we have the output of behaviors etc during the
particular section of the species ongoing existence. These outputs were possible
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Darwin thus did not have to consider any detailing of the evolution…as a point wise
that with each advance of the “tape” the “Fitnessʼ of the species was perpetuated
in order to allow it moving on to the next segment of “tape”. So here too we have
the use of the “instant” as defined only in terms of another level of consideration
beyond the illusion that it arises through some scrutiny of a line of time passing
and results from a measure of minimal distance. The instant, for Darwin as for
Turing, is outside the Euclidean world viewing of distance and time measures.
speaking about when we are speaking about “instants” is the inability for those
other. Or, we should say, that, while they think they are communicating as all good
theorists and scientists must, they are actually speaking at utter cross-purposes
What is behind this chatter that only leads to more chatter and fails to lead to
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between separate sequence of happenings is not one to be made lightly or
frivolously and that it, in fact, creates a gulf between viewpoints. The failure to
predisposes one to the illusion that since all theoretical science ventures are
“about the world” they must all speak of happenings within the same absolute
time.
The “instants” that are chosen when time is thus frozen or sliced are thus
lifetimes with the evolution of their species population over evolutionary time or
linking events in the brain of the organism within their limited set of interactions
ethologists.
But what is forgotten is that the basic “theory” is based upon the choice of
“instants” as its essential foundation and thus different narratives cannot be laid
side by side along a common spectrum of absolute time. What we say that we can
of what we, as theorists, define as the gaps between our speaking of happenings
that are founded in the idiosyncratic notion of the ‘instantʼ relied upon in each
Turing to a level which helps confirm...broadly speaking ...the validity of this new
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view....where by "closeness" is not defined by any metric of distance...but by
divisibility. In this regard we do not see the two major slices of our intellectual
within the mode of discreteness and the narrative of the morphogenesis of life
two sides of the same coin, or, perhaps in terms of Mandelbrot, merely a closeup
zoom of one domain within another domain. If we think about this....in our own
"naive" way we can see that this is possibly a "statement" which implicitly alludes
to the notion of "time" as defining the relation of "Things" in the world rather than
"reals in a way that would be forced to fit with a two thousand year old naivety of
ag
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Scholze, as his co workers tell us, avoids getting tangled in the jungle vines
by forcing himself to fly above them: As when he was in college, he prefers to work
without writing anything down. That means that he must formulate his ideas in the
cleanest way possible, he said. “You have only some kind of limited capacity in
your head, so you canʼt do too complicated things.” Yet even with the benefit of
Scholzeʼs explanations, perfectoid spaces are hard for other researchers to grasp,
Hellmann said. “If you move a little bit away from the path, or the way that he
prescribes, then youʼre in the middle of the jungle and itʼs actually very hard.” But
Scholze himself, Hellmann said, “would never lose himself in the jungle, because
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heʼs never trying to fight the jungle. Heʼs always looking for the overview, for some
down to the ultimately uncomplicated narrative of the Turing Machine, too, was
the approach legendarily taken by Turing. But you can indeed do things that might
have seemed very complicated if you had gone about them imprinted with the
conventional indoctrination that acts upon most thinkers in most areas in our
spaces as a category of geometric spaces with all the expected trappings, and
thus there's no reason to deny it the status of "concept." However, the author
emphasizes,
“I will fight the temptation to explain in any more detail just why Scholze's
But I do want to disabuse the reader of any hope that the revelation was as
eyes. Scholze's lectures and expository writing are of a rare clarity, but
they can't conceal the fact that his proofs are extremely subtle and
difficult.”
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"I can't even make mathematicians understand what I'm currently working
on," Scholze laughs. After finishing his lecture on the opening day, he tells me,
quite a few colleagues told him that they had given up trying to follow his trail of
thought halfway through the lecture. Does this bother him? Scholze shrugs. "I
"Gerd Faltings, the only German to have been awarded the Fields Medal, regularly
student and I would never understand anything. But in hindsight I feel like I learned so
much during that time. There's this misconception that certain parts of lectures are
“It's Monday, the first day of the congress. Peter Scholze strides across the stage of
the packed main auditorium, clutching a laser pointer, his dark curls tied back like a
professional soccer player. He explains the connection between his recent findings and
the 1968 Fontaine-Winterberger theorem. At the end of the lecture, the audience has no
questions. An old gentleman gets up from his seat and addresses the young
mathematician: "It will take 20 years to prove what you just outlined on the last few
Peter Scholze smiles a crooked smile, scratches his head, and replies: "I have
already thought of some arguments. I don't think it will take that long." Maybe he is more
of a genius than he is willing to admit. So what is next? "There are just a few things I
would like to understand and that I'm thinking about," he says with the grin of a 28-year-
old.
Scholzeʼs work might indeed be rattling that cage in which the thinking of
even our best and brightest minds has been confined for centuries in more ways
than one...and letting some revolutionary aspects of our views of the world escape
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into expression in mathematics new formalisms. Perhaps we are being naive or
too optimistic in feeling that he brings to bear a view that is so distinct from the
his work may reflect on these questions of how we formulate our theories of
science themselves.
how we speak about time, while, on the other hand, we seem to have so easily
glided into absolute and utterly total belief in our mode of speaking about space.
The illusion of satisfaction on the one hand compared with the frustrations on the
other have actually led much of our speaking about time to be patterned after and
We cannot fail but see just about everywhere the discordance which afflicts
those who seek to speak sensibly about time when they have to try to reconcile
the notions of the ‘instant” and of the “present moment” with that of “duration"
and the flow of time. We have here a situation where the numerical approach to
time via the discrete points that presumably constitute it must be reconciled with
speaking more aptly about time has also been one of the juggling of the manner in
which we can some speak of the domain of ‘reals” as somehow related to and
There seems to be a compellng analogy here that resonates with the aspects
of the problematic of the “instant” to which we have only briefly alluded above.
Indeed, the ostensible “closeness” of the various domains, where those “instants”
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are separately and independently defined, is often found to not be very “close” at
all….and yet we have to hope that there is perhaps an alternate way to arrive at the
force of a calculus of time which provides the merits of our current way of
speaking but also shows the way to new aspects of the ‘instants” that we count
off the clock that will surprise us all The realm of “P-adics”and the fractalized
notions they offer us constitute a way of filling in the gaps between the rationals
with the vast additional realm of the reals. Is not that the basic problem of our
and thus how it “thought of itself”…… that no one saw coming…and indeed we
have not yet appreciated their impact, for better or worse, even after we are in the
midst of them.
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