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Writ 2 wp1
Lucas Lau
It is a clear, sunny day at my home. The end of the COVID-19 pandemic was in sight as the
push to get everyone vaccinated has been largely successful. However, most universities still
had their classes online, including UCSB. It was a slow day since I finished most of the
homework I had been given in all my classes. Thus, I decided to message my high school friend
on Discord to spark up a conversation.
Friend: -_-
Me: Yeah.
Same.
I’ve just been thinking about this sort of topic ever since I listened to a conversation at a
discussion that I attended a couple days ago.
Me: It was a seminar that had a bunch of academic scholars in the field of writing talk about how
to most effectively run a classroom. They argued primarily over finding the best way for students
to learn more about and develop a passion for writing.
Friend: Sounds interesting.
Friend: Hmm
Me: Anyway, David Bleich began with a large argument that basically boils down to the idea that
teachers/profs need to develop and tailor their own criticism of a student’s writing to each
individual student to contextualize the student’s style.
They do this primarily by getting to know the students and how they were raised. (That sounded
much less creepy in my head🤣.)
Both of these are done in order to find a way to get a student to connect their writings to their
own personal goals.
Cuz, if a student is able to do so, they will write with more passion and intent than if they were
writing simply for a grade.
Me: Yeah.
Many of the other participants also agreed.
In fact, many of them added onto this idea.
Me: Another professor named John Antico from Lansing Community College suggested that on
top of a teacher/professor improving their own critiquing abilities, they could implement a system
with the other professors teaching the same class where the main professor walks through the
process of writing the paper with their student.
Then when it's time to submit, the other professors grade the students' work and then the main
professor argues as a “lawyer” of sorts: justifying a better grade for the student when warranted.
Friend: Seems like a good idea? But I think that it would be way too time consuming for most to
be able to do this in practice.
Me: Yeah.
I agree.
I guess it's a “Is it worth the effort?” sort of question for most teachers and whether or not it's
feasible for their schedules to have such a system. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Friend: So like the students make a proposal to the teacher/professor for their idea of doing the
assignment and then the teacher approves or rejects? 😕
Friend: I see. It makes sense. But I sort of think that it is hard to be fair to all students without a
standardized prompt.
Me: I can see that side of the argument, but I personally think that this sort of system prevents
students from seeing the reality of writing which is done by someone from their own motivation
to communicate an idea.
Prompts sort of artificially create motivation at the cost of forcing students to think in a robotic
sense where they simply create the essay and turn it in without thinking about the implications.
Friend: Yeah, I guess you could be right. Once I turned in an essay, I just forgot about it until I
got my grade back. 😂
Me: Me too. XD. This is exactly what a professor named Eric R. Birdsall from Pennsylvania
State University and another professor named Stephen A. Bernhardt said.
Birdsall mentioned his own experience of using a grading system where he grades the student’s
papers, but doesn’t tell the students what they got.
Instead, he gives them a checklist of ideas on how to improve the paper and then it is the
student’s decision to follow the checklist and revise their essay or ask for their grade and lose
the right to revise.
Friend: That seems like a very frustrating grading system for the student. 🤮
Me: Yeah, I don’t like it much either but I can see where he is coming from. The other professor
sort of agreed but pitched his own idea of a portfolio grading system where students work on
their essay for an extended period of time rather than a timed test format.
Both of them justified their systems by saying that their systems better represent the true writing
process where writers have a large array of resources to help write such as the opinions of
OTHERS.
Friend: Yeah.
The SAT and other standardized tests feel interpretive rather than creative.
Which I don’t like.
Also not being able to consult others for minor grammar errors and losing points cuz of it also
sort of lessens any enjoyment I had left for writing.
Me: For sure. Now, here is where we get to the GOOD part. 😏
At this point in the conversation the last three scholars spoke up to contradict some of the ideas
that the previous ones mentioned.
Friend: 👀
Me: It began with a writer and a graduate student named Stephen Tchudi and Stephen Adkison
respectively.
They spoke together and began by agreeing with the idea of a portfolio final rather than a timed
test final, but they brought in the idea that grading overall is redundant and should not be
included.
They said that the idea of having a contract grading system does allow students to be more free
with their writing, but the students are still limited by the expectation and writing biases of the
teacher.
Friend: So at that point it just becomes pandering to the teacher for a good grade. 🙄
Friend: I sort of agree. I never really got the whole purpose of learning to write until I already
finished school. I always thought it was just something we were forced to do when in reality the
whole purpose is to COMMUNICATE and justify an idea to your audience.
In regards to the completion grading, I feel like it works all the time in theory but in practice
people, like me, are just gonna BS the assignment instead of working harder.😦
Me: Yeah I agree. It allows the students to develop a passion for writing by giving them a sense
of reason for learning and developing their writing skills. I think that if I experienced this style of
teaching when I was younger, I would have a less bitter attitude towards writing than I do at the
moment. I just hope more teachers of young children can attempt to implement this sort of
system in their classrooms.
Friend: Yeah. 100%. I feel like I would’ve probably at least viewed writing in a better light if this
were the case. Anyway, I got to go. I really enjoyed this conversation.