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Using plumbing parts, consisting of some compression and some solder �ttings with the
addition of a ½" L.P. gas hosetail, its possible to make a very servicable HHO gas torch.
The temps are very low and so solder �ttings will work, they also serve to keep the
weight down by reducing the number of heavy brass �ttings needed.
My cell produces 1 lpm so the standard mig tip will need to be made smaller and we will
cover that mod later on.
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Step 1: Parts and Exploded View
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The standard 15mm plumbing �ttings are...
1. 6 inches 15mm copper tube
1" section between stopend and elbow.
1 ¼ " section between the coupler and the ball valve.( length is 30mm but 32mm
seats well)
remaining approx 4" between the elbow and ball valve.
2. 15mm copper stopend.
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3. 15mm copper 90 ° elbow.
4. coupler FIxC 15mm x ½ "
5. ½ " BSP hosetail which is a standard LP gas �tting.
6. mini ball valve compression �ttings on both ends.
7. mig welder tip either 0.8mm or 0.9mm which will be modi�ed.
8. a brass nut M6x1.9 for the mig tip.
The mig tip has a metric thread M6x1.0 mm, so you will need to drill and tap suitable
material if you dont have a M6 brass nut at hand.
Step 2: The Torch Tip
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The tip is the most �ddly part of construction due to the need for swapable tips. The
copper stopend is too thin to support threading for the mig tip, so a brass nut is needed
that can be soldered on in the inside, in order to remove the tip. I used the earth pin from
a 15A 3pin plug which I drilled and tapped for M6 thread. Another option is the brass
contacts on the old carbon dry cells which would also need to be drilled and tapped.
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It’s easier to �rst drill and tap the copper stopend and brass nut seperately and then
insert a SS bolt to line the parts up when soldering, this way the ss bolt can be easily
removed afterwards once all the soldering is �nished.
Don’t solder with the copper mig tip in place because you won’t be able to remove it again.
I had heard mig welder tips can be made smaller by tapping a ball bearing on top. It
seems odd that forcing a ball bearing down would make the hole smaller, but the copper
cant spread outwards and has nowhere else to go so it constricts thereby reducing the
ori�ce diameter which works well.
The smallest mig tip is 0.6mm which was unobtainable, I have used both the 0.9mm and
the 0.8mm and managed to get the hole size down to 0.45 mm which is the size of some
stainless steel leader tooth proof �shing wire I use for replacing cheese slicer wire.
Step 3: Closing Bits
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The body of these mini torches is usually �lled with �ne brass wool, which reduces the
instances of �ashback considerably, I have retained the insides from interferring in the
ball valve with a bit of �ne screen wrapped around a washer.
I used a M6 washer which I then had to grind down to �t inside the copper pipe.
Its very convenient to be able to shut o� the gas at will without constant banging from
�ashbacks, however...
Don’t forget to switch oﬀ power to the cell once you have shut the ball valve, failure to do so will cause
pressure buildup which could lead to leaks, explosions and equipment damage .
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(/member/DLynch549/) DLynch549 (/member/DLynch549/) 1 year ago on Step 3
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How did you figure out it was producing 1lpm?
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(/member/Maria+LeonorL/) Maria LeonorL (/member/Maria+LeonorL/) 2 years ago on Introduction
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Hello, I'm installing my workshop, could you recommend me where I should locate the gas tank and
the oxygen tank?
(/member/MartinA173/) MartinA173 (/member/MartinA173/) 3 years ago

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Your hho torch first you have to use Sodium Hydroxide second u should use a bubbler. You can
shut off and not worry about built up pressure if u use a pressure senser in main voltage circuit, like
everything else though have a bigger one i made 10 lpm
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(/member/Woodbuilder/) Woodbuilder (/member/Woodbuilder/) 3 years ago

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Can you use propane with this? If not can you rig it to make it work?
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(/member/bluesea8/) bluesea8 (/member/bluesea8/) 4 years ago

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I see the instructions for the tip but how about the tank for making the HHO? I know all it is is water
with electric (DC) running thru it. but how do you do the plates and what is used for the tank?
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(/member/nabzim/) nabzim (/member/nabzim/) 4 years ago

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If you guys don't want orange flames, you need some sort of dessicant/filter to be in series with the
gas hose. You need to remove the moisture from the gas, because that's the only way the sodium is
being carried into the flame (it's dissolved in the microscopic water droplets that you can't see). A
filter of calcium chloride (CaCl2) would be most effective, (but any common drying-agents should
work), even activated charcoal may work. Just make sure it's not powdered, and that it's somewhat
granulated; and if buying online, try to find products labeled "ANHYDROUS"; that is important if you
want your drying agents to work like they should. Like sodium sulfate, which is a good drying agent
normally, won't work if your using regular epsom salts, because epsom salt is hydrated sodium
sulfate.
Also I kinda just realized you can just avoid the orange flame entirely by not putting any sodium
containing electrolytes in the solution. Just use potassium ones... like, go find some potassium
carbonate, and call it a day.
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(/member/lukedwards/) lukedwards (/member/lukedwards/) 4 years ago

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I realize this is old but was hoping to maybe get some input. I once read that you could reduce the
hole on the torch tip small enough to allow the gas to flow but actually be to small for the flame to
pass through. This doesn't mean you shouldn't still use a flashback or at the very least some sort of
bubbler but is yet a major additional safety feature.
I'm working with a company that has the capability of actually creating tubing in any inside and
outside diameter I wish and was going to do some experimenting. It's not exactly cheap so I'm
trying to accumulate all the info and advice I can in this regard. I currently have a small sample that
you need a maganfying glass to even see there's a hole. They can't go much smaller than this but I
actually think it's to small. I didn't write down the actual hole size for the sample they gave me.
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So, can anyone here tell me the smallest size hole I can go fo mixed HHO like in this setup? If you
happen to know the smallest size I can go for each of the gasses separately I'd appreciate that as
well! Thanks!!
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(/member/ShalorM/) ShalorM (/member/ShalorM/) 4 years ago

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Why not just use an oxy/acetylene welding tip instead of a mig tip?
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