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Bharat Chalise
Asian Development Bank Kathmandu
Is there a difference between inelastic and
plastic? Similar questions and discussions
I know that they are the same literally but I ask if
they have a different definition in structural
analysis. ABAQUS, Concrete Damage Plasticity
parameters ?
Structure Analysis
Question 8 answers
Asked 5th May, 2016
Long Chen
Share Hello everyone,

I'm learning to simulate a concrete structure

using CDP model in ABAQUS, but I don't
know how to get the parameters for sure, such
as *Concrete Compression Hardening,
Popular Answers (1)
*Concrete Damaged Plasticity, and the
damage.
Nozomu Yoshida 9th Sep, 2015 Can anybody give me a correct, broadly
Kanto Gakuin
applicable method to get the parameters of
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different levels concrete according to
Let's consider stress-strain behavior. the Concrete Structure Specification or
uniaxial compression test data?
Inelastic: Stress-strain curve is not linear
Thank You very much!
Plastic: Residual strain remains after unload.

In many cases, they are used in the same View

meaning, but definition is different as shown
above. Rubber is a good example to distinguish
them. Stress-strain curve is not linear (therefore,
inelastic), but it comes back to original shape
after unload (therefore, non-plastic).
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How to solve the ABAQUS ERROR " TOO
many attempts made for this increment" ?
Question 11 answers
Asked 6th Jun, 2017
Bimal Bhandari
I am analysing the steel end plate connections
in ABAQUS.I have used surface-surface
contact formulation and heaxahedral elements
for meshing.And my increment = 50

Initial increment = 0.1

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Minimum increment = 1E-009

Maximum increment = 1
Jer-Fu Wang 9th Sep 2015
 9th Sep, 2015
National United
University
I saw a question on the internet that is exactly
the same as yours followed with many
responses.
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?
qid=381089
Nozomu Yoshida
9th Sep, 2015
Kanto Gakuin
University
Let's consider stress-strain behavior.
Inelastic: Stress-strain curve is not linear
Plastic: Residual strain remains after unload.
In many cases, they are used in the same
meaning, but definition is different as shown
above. Rubber is a good example to distinguish
them. Stress-strain curve is not linear (therefore,
inelastic), but it comes back to original shape
after unload (therefore, non-plastic).
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Wanis Nafo
9th Sep, 2015
University of
Waterloo
In structural engineering, especially in the most
common construction materials such as
concrete, steel, and the recently emerged FRP
products, the constitutive model is represented
either by, straight line, curved line, or a
combination of the two. in most cases straight
line represents the "linear elastic behavior";
However, a horizontal straight line sometimes
drawn to represent the plastic region to indicate
the engineering stress-strain curves in some
courses of the second year of engineering. In
biomechanics, constitutive models tend to be
completely different, other types of elasticity
are generated by different materials. Rubber and
soft tissues for example exhibit J-shaped
elastic stress-strain curves. "Inelastic" is
somehow a broad term, using precise terms that
accurately describe the behavior of the materials
is usually more attractive in science
communities.
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Arthur Ribeiro de 9th Sep, 2015
Alvarenga
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What is the effect of Dilation angle and
Viscosity parameter on results of concrete
beams in ABAQUS?
Question 3 answers
Asked 9th Sep, 2017
Ghazi Jumaa
ABAQUS is a finite element program
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The plasticity/creep/connector friction
algorithm did not converge (ABAQUS)?
Question 7 answers
Asked 5th May, 2017
Hasan Emre Demirci
I am modelling an axial pull-out test for buried
pipeline by using ABAQUS. I modeled pipeline
as a shell element and soil as a solid element.
I used Mohr-Coulomb plasticity to model the
soil. There is a surface to surface contact
between pipe and soil. I used kinematic
coupling between a reference point and pipe
surface. I applied axial displacement at the
reference point. When I have only cohesion
yield stress in my model, there is no issues
related to convergence. However, I have
convergence problem when I have friction
angle in my model. The error I got is "The
plasticity/creep/connector friction algorithm did
not converge at points". What might be reason
for that? Thank you very much in advance.
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How can I implement concrete damage
plasticity in ABAQUS?
Question 10 answers
Asked 2nd Feb, 2015
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I'm trying to understand how to implement
concrete damage plasticity in ABAQUS but am
unable to do so.
Can anyone help me out.
If someone could send me any previous work
files in which they migh have used concrete
damaged plasticity that would be greatly
helpful.
 Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto Thanks.

Dear Chalise,
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let me say a few words about your question. "Too many attempts made for this
When a body is loaded in elastic range, doens't increment", please anyone help me to
mater if it follows Hooke's law (linear stress solve this problem. I have attached
strain relationship) or not (a curve), the most screenshot of error file and warning file ?
important fact is that when the load is drop out
Question 33 answers
completely, the body will be back to its original
state with no deformation.. Asked 11th Nov, 2016
Ashish Gupta
When it reaches certain value of stress, mainly
the metals (steel, aluminimum, copper, titanium, Abaqus
etc.), when the load is retired, some residual
strain, called plastic strain, is presented and will View
not disappear except if the body is reloaded What should be the plastic strain, when
again but in the opposite sense, if it is possible defining yield stress in Abaqus?
to do so. The stress at which the plastic strains
begins to appear is called "yeld stress" and for Question 21 answers
mild steel this path change is very easy to Asked 9th Sep, 2016
identify trough the tension test diagram. For
Aayush Sahay
others materials and metals (aluminium and its
alloys) the point where this behavior begin is not Isn"t the plastic strain zero at yield
so clear and is defined by a stress stress(atleast for non-brittle metals)?
corresponding to a certain amount of plastic
strain (2 mm/m, for example), or best, by the so View
called residual strain. Time increment required is less than the
minimum specified?
These two guidelines (differeneces) give answer
to what is elastic behavior only. I understand that Question 5 answers
"plastic" behavior comes from the ideal material,
Asked 11th Nov, 2017
that left the linear behavior at the yield stress,
and once at this stress, it can reach any value of Hayder F. Altameemi
strain without any increase in stress. When you i have this problem in abaqus what the sol ???
unload this material, you will only retire the
elastic strain. All that material catch in strain will View
be plastic, or be it, will be residual strain after
How to get Force - displacement curve in
unloading.
Abaqus 6-11.1?
This is the ideal model of the plastic theory, Question 8 answers
which permited several works about limit load
and the plastic hinge formation that brings the Asked 1st Jan, 2015
structure to collapse. Up to certain values of Azzam Ahmed
loads, stress, materials (steel) and strains, this Someone explain to me some methods to get
theory can be applyed and was applyed the Force-displacement curve from Abaqus for
between years1960-70. whole model .

But research moved on, and the stability

behavior and the formation of the called plastic- View
hinge interact and there's not such direct hinge
behavior, the yield grows in to the section, so
there's part of the section that still work
elastically while other parts of the same section Got a technical question?
are under plastic flow (yielding). Get high-quality answers from experts.
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different models had appeared to simulate the
beginning and the expansion of the yielding not
only in the called more highstressed section of
the body, but also in the nearby ones. Then,
recognizing that both behaviors are presented in
the model, the usual term to define this behavior
is "inelastic".

My work research is on advanced analysis using

plastic zone models. This mean to make a direct
analysis where the members plasticity (not
points, parts of the member, along its lenght) is
present and changes not only the strength but
most of all interact with member and structural
buckling. Hope you like to go on studying
plasticity and you'll see more clearly what I'm
telling you now. For example, look at

Chen,W.F. and Sohal,I. (1995) – “Plastic Design

and Second-Order Analysis of Steel Frames" –
Spring-Verlag - New York.

I know this book is 20 years old, but is very good

for you to begin and learn.Sure I like this subject
so much, sorry to be longer then I wanted.

Good luck!

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Bharat Chalise 9th Sep, 2015
Asian Development
Bank Kathmandu
Thank you very much to all of you for your
informative answers now I got the difference
very well

Fabrice Richard 5th May, 2016

University of
Franche-Comté
viscoelastic, anelastic, plastic, viscoplastic,
damage, ... can be considered as inelastic
behaviors, ie not purely elastic (linear or not)

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Waleed E. El- 12th Dec, 2016
Demerdash
Mansoura University
Dear Bharat Chalise,

Please check the attached figure.

Regards

Waleed
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Arthur Ribeiro de 2nd Feb, 2018
Alvarenga
Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto
I would like to say something about Dr. Nozomu
YOSHIDA's answer, which said "Inelastic:
Stress-strain curve is not linear".

This statement leads to incorrect direction

because there are materials like mild steel,
copper, aluminium and even rubber, which
behave elastically but without obbeying Hooke's
law in some parts of the stress-strain diagram.

Or best, the elastic modulus is not a constant

(like Young modulus), but it changes according
to the strain. The material represented by the
Ramberg-Osgood model observes this kind of
behavior.

So it must be cleared that:

1. For pure elastic material following Hooke's

law, stress-strain diagram is a straight line.

2. For some elastic materials that not obbey

Hooke's law, the diagram is not a straight line, it
is a curve, and sometimes, one part is straight
complemented by a curve part.

3. The inelastic behavior has a nonlinear

diagram (true!), but not every nonlinear diagram
mean that material has inelastic behavior.

That is it.

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