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INTERVIEW

STEVEN WILSON: REMIXING CLASSIC ALBUMS

Prog-rock wunderkind Steven Wilson is using his studio skills


to give legendary rock albums a new lease of life.

TONY BACON far, he’s polished classic records by King during otherwise dead time on his extensive
Crimson, Roxy Music, Jethro Tull, Yes, XTC, tours. So far this year, he’s played over 60

“T
he equivalent of polishing the Tears For Fears and more, creating new concerts in Europe and North America, with
Sistine Chapel, that’s what I feel stereo and 5.1 surround mixes that have a further 60 or so slated toward the end of
I’m doing sometimes with these been generally praised by fans and critics. 2018 and into 2019 in Japan, Australasia,
classic records.” Steven Wilson is talking He says this sideline has grown to take North America and Europe.
about his remixing work, which he began up maybe a fifth of his working life, and “If I’ve got a couple of days off in a hotel
in 2009 as a sideline to his very successful has recently developed a laptop setup and time to kill,” Wilson says, “I can load up
career as a musician and producer. So that means he can do much of his remixing an album remix project and start to piece

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locates the relevant multitracks, which
is not necessarily a straightforward task.
“For example, at one point I was asked
if I wanted to remix the back catalogue
of a legendary rock band, but they just
couldn’t find enough of the tapes,” Wilson
says. The other factor here is fiscal: every
visit to the tape library or archive is usually
at a cost to the company. When the tapes
are located, they are baked, directly
transferred to 96kHz, 24-bit digital files, and
supplied to Wilson as a complete set of raw
WAV files. “So if there’s 10 minutes of test
tones on the tape, I’ll get that,” he explains,
“or if there’s 10 minutes of silence at the
end of the reel, or of the band tuning up,
that will also be part of what I receive.”
The number of files he gets matches
the number of tracks on the tape. “So I
might get eight files, 24 files — or, in one
case, 72 files,” he adds with a smile. He
also gets scans of the tape boxes, where
available, as sometimes they can reveal
useful information about which takes were
used and so on.
The third step is to listen to what’s
been transferred from the multitrack reels
in order to identify the master take. This
often long process can be a mixture of
revelation, as when he discovers unreleased
material, for example, and tedium, such
as listening to the band going through 27
false starts or mis-takes. “Sometimes there
can be multiple takes that were compiled
to create the finished master,” he says. “So
you might find a particular master is half of
take five and then the second half of take
12, and then it might cut back to take five
for the last four bars — whatever it is. So at
this stage I’m figuring out what the master
takes are. I then compile a session where
Photos: Lasse Hoile

I have all the right takes. You’ve still done


no treatment, no balancing, no editing, no
stereo placement, nothing like that. But
at least now you have all the master takes
Steven Wilson in his home studio.
compiled and ready for mixing.”
Even more close listening follows, as
it together. I can’t create definitive mixes, listening to, or one that I can genuinely say Wilson lines up the original stereo mixes
and obviously I can’t do the surround mixes, I love — and with nearly all the projects I’ve to compare them with the master-take
but I can do a good 60 percent of the work taken on, both are true.” multitracks. This is a slow, painstakingly
sitting in a hotel or dressing room: editing, intense part of the process. “I start listening
compiling, getting basic balances, figuring
Five Steps To Audio Heaven to 10, 15 seconds at a time, and it’ll be ‘Oh
out stereo placement on the original mixes. A typical Steven Wilson remix goes through yeah, the guitar’s muted for those first four
So although I’m busier than ever in my own five stages. First, he receives a commission bars of the second verse, so I need to do
career, I’m managing to maintain the remix from a record label or a management that in my session.’ Then I’ll listen to the
work too. I’m becoming more selective company; the choice of album is often next 10 seconds, and ‘Ah, OK, there’s a
about what I take on, though, because I’m connected to a meaningful anniversary, phaser been added to the hi-hat there.’ And
in the fortunate position of being offered or to an artist gaining new rights to their so on through each song.”
more and more projects. But then I’ve only back catalogue, or a back catalogue being Usually, Wilson is dealing with detailed
ever wanted to remix things that I have an acquired by a different label. pieces of work, where the texture of
affinity with, whether it’s an album I grew up Next, the commissioning company individual sounds and their presence and

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Apple’s Logic has been Steven Wilson’s sequencer


of choice since before it was Apple’s Logic!

location is just as important as any other solos or phrases in and out, that kind of Finally, Wilson reaches the point where
constituent of the classic recording in thing. So listening on headphones and he can actually remix the track whilst
question. “Some of these mixes were real identifying all of these mix moves and remaining true to the artist’s original vision:
works of art,” he says. “They’d spend a where things have been muted or taken he stresses that his stereo remixes provide
couple of days, and there’d be three or out of the mix maybe for a few bars — all an enhanced version of the original and
four of them, all on the faders, bringing of that takes the most time. That’s the not a wholly new experience. His task to
phasers in, bringing reverbs in on particular detective work. And it’s so easy to miss this end is often made easier by the clarity
words, panning things left and right, riding things without full concentration.” and exposure that the original multitracks
can reveal, and then it’s a case of making
adjustments only where necessary. “At
this stage in the workflow, it’s a matter of
refining,” he says, “trying to get as close
as possible to the original mix, tweaking
EQs and so on. Over a period of days, I’ll
finish the mix, and then when I go back to
it a couple of days later I’ll hear things that
aren’t quite right. Usually the artist will have
some feedback, too. Sometimes they’ll
have memories of how they did things,
which is really useful. But,” he adds with a
smile, “mostly they don’t remember much
at all. Hopefully, then the artist will come
up and listen, and maybe they’ll have some
more feedback based on listening to it in
my studio.”
At that point, with an agreed final stereo
mix, Wilson either goes on to create the 5.1
mix, if that’s part of the job, or he’ll deliver

This original track sheet from the ‘Sound Chaser’


multitrack indicates the degree to which Yes
pushed the limits of 24-track recording.

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a stereo mix if that’s all that’s required. The
files are delivered as 96kHz, 24-bit WAVs, Familiar Failings
usually to whoever is mastering the CD or
Steven Wilson recalls a conversation with hadn’t been done too well on the original
authoring the Blu-ray or DVD. Allan Rouse, the engineer who curated the release. “The final note of the previous song
2009 Beatles remasters, about the degree to was supposed to hit the first note of the second
History Channels which mistakes should be corrected. Rouse and song, and in the original it missed. I asked
That’s the broad outline of Steven Wilson’s the team had to ask themselves questions about myself, ‘Should I fix that?’ At first I fixed it,
remixing work, from commission to seemingly minor things such as clicks and pops but then I decided no, I should put it back to
and hums and other ephemeral noises that how it was, because that’s the way people have
completion. His primary tool for the job
were part of the original recordings. Should been listening to it for 25 years. It’s no longer
is Apple’s Logic Pro, which he’s used for they clean them up? “He told me it was six of a mistake: it’s become the way it is. For every
many years, beginning back when it was one and half a dozen of the other,” Wilson says. person who complained that I didn’t fix it,
still C-Lab Creator. Before that, he worked “Some they decided they should remove, some there would have been someone who’d have
his way up from his teenage years, when they decided it was best to leave, because they said, ‘How dare he change that? Sacrilege!’“
his dad, an electronics engineer who had become part of the fabric of the song. You There have even been instances where the
just have to follow your own instincts. And artist has asked Wilson to change things and
worked for Nokia among others, built him
because I have an affinity with these records, he has been resistant. “One said to me ‘Oh,
a little multitrack cassette recorder and an
I think I have a good instinct for knowing what when we played that in the studio, we played it
echo box. I should fix and what I shouldn’t.” too slow. Can you speed it up?’ I said ‘No! I’m
The first pro-level machine he owned A case in point arose on his remix of not going to do that. This is a classic album,
was a Tascam 16-track tape recorder, which Marillion’s 1994 album Brave. At one point, and whether you’re happy with it or not, this is
he had for a couple of years in the late ’80s two songs are crossfaded together, but this like a sacred text. I’m not going to change it.’”
and early ’90s, using it to record his early
No-Man records with Tim Bowness and
the first Porcupine Tree album. Soon after digital recording, the opposite of analogue. and I recognise that some of the beauty
that he discovered ADAT machines and the At the time, I liked the clarity and silent of sound is missing. Nowadays, digital
world of early digital recording. “When I noise floor after years of struggling with recording has come a long way.”
listen to my ADAT albums now, they have faulty analogue tape machines, but now, As for Logic, it could just as easily have
that signature of the early generation of of course, they sound a bit harsh and cold, been Pro Tools or Cubase, but his local

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Many of Wilson’s remix projects


involve surround mixes, for which
a 5.1 monitoring system is vital.

dealer suggested C-Lab Creator. “The guys surround mixes. The next Porcupine Tree with anniversary editions and so on.” Wilson
in Apple in Hamburg that take care of Logic album, Fear Of A Blank Planet (2007), came duly made a new 5.1 and a recreated stereo
have become good friends, to the point out with a Wilson surround mix. “And it got mix for the Crimson King box that came out
that they actually changed some of the 5.1 a Grammy nomination for best surround in 2009, on the album’s 40th birthday.
implementation based on my suggestions. sound mix! So I thought wow, I must be
I can’t imagine being able to do that with doing something right.”
Buried Treasure
most companies of that size. You’d think This led to Wilson’s first remix for a Wilson’s first crack at remixing for another
Apple of all companies would be the most band other than his own, on King Crimson’s artist was also his first experience of finding
impenetrable of all, but they’ve been In The Court Of The Crimson King. At alternative takes and unheard versions
fantastic. So I’ve been a Logic guy probably among the multitracks, which can form part
for more than 20 years now.” of the draw for fans who always want to hear
In fact, when people ask Wilson what that little bit extra from the archive. Wilson’s
instrument he plays, “I tell them that for me, personal preference is to find new songs or
the studio has always been the instrument. completely alternative treatments of songs,
I’m not that interested in playing or being rather than simply alternative takes. On
a musician — I just love being in the studio, Crimson King he found a haunting version
messing about. The studio, that’s my of ‘I Talk To The Wind’ with just Fripp on
instrument. It’s that Eno thing, you know?” guitar and Ian McDonald on flute. “That was
a beautiful instrumental,” he says, “and a
In The Round completely different piece, really, not just
Wilson’s introduction to the idea of another take of what we already know. To
surround remixing came when Elliot me, alternate takes are not so interesting,
Scheiner created 5.1 remixes of the though I understand there are people out
Porcupine Tree albums In Absentia and there who would happily listen to a whole
Deadwing, in 2004 and 2005 respectively. disc of studio run-throughs of ‘21st Century
“Being the control freak that I am,” Wilson the time, King Crimson and Porcupine Schizoid Man’. What I’m excited by is when
says with a smile, “I started to feel that this Tree shared the same management. you find a performance that actually adds
was something out of my control. I wanted Like any good managers, they asked something new to the canon.”
to be able to do it myself. There were some Robert Fripp if he’d be interested in their Then there are pieces that benefit from
mix decisions that Elliot made that weren’t Grammy‑nominated client making remixes the clarity afforded by a modern mix and
the way I would have approached it. But I of the Crimson catalogue. “I guess it was digital format. For instance, the final 10
didn’t have the skills, or the technology at a perfect storm,” Wilson says. “I wanted to minutes or so of ‘Moonchild’ from Crimson
the time, to be able to do it myself.” get more involved in remixing, and I think King are very quiet indeed. “If you listen
So Wilson taught himself how to make they were looking to revamp the catalogue to the original mix, you’re literally listening

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through a wall of tape hiss,” Wilson says. “It’s like the tape
hiss is louder than anything going on in the song! And so
that was one of the nice things we were able to do with the
remix. I got that noise floor right down — not completely,
but now you can hear a lot more of what they’re doing.”
Fripp is a musician who revels in intelligent observations,
and Wilson recalls one in particular concerning the Crimson
King album. “He told me that he believed the traditional
notion of genius is wrong: this idea that there are certain
artists in the world who are musical geniuses. He believes that
genius is something that visits people temporarily and then
moves on. In 1969, he said, King Crimson were temporarily
visited by the spirit of genius, and they made that one record.
He wasn’t saying all their other records aren’t good too, but
he said that record had the magic. And then the spirit of
genius moved on, maybe to Pink Floyd, who did Dark Side Of
The Moon, or whoever it was took the next step into creative
genius. That’s a really interesting point. Because I think there’s
no artist who hasn’t made at least one below-par record, so
how does that square with the notion of them as a genius?”

Lung Transplant
Steven Wilson has remixed much of Jethro Tull’s back
catalogue, and Aqualung in particular was an album that
cried out for a remix. Wilson knew the original well and
remembered how muddy and hissy it was, with some weird
frequency issues going on. Popular opinion seems to agree
with his own view that his remix fixed many of those sonic
problems. And here’s the paradox: it sounds better; but
perhaps also it’s a little more clinical.
“That’s almost inevitable,” he says. “Honestly, to me,
bearing in mind I don’t know a lot about analogue tape, it
sounds like the original was mixed on to a faulty machine
or a machine that wasn’t lined up properly. And it’s always
sounded a bit like that: very muffled and hissy. I was able
to fix that, because the source multitrack tapes sounded
beautiful. The remix has clarity missing from the original, it
sounds beautiful, and to some it’s the definitive mix now.
But understandably, other people would probably still rather
hear the original analogue mix with all its flaws. I accept that.
That’s not something that can ever be reconciled with a remix
project, which is why I always try to encourage the record
company to include both the original and the remix on a
reissue set, as two different experiences.”
Many of the Tull records that Wilson has remixed provided
an unusually rich seam of unreleased or little-heard songs. In
his estimation, the Tull tapes generally reveal at least twice
as many songs as were selected for the final album. With
Aqualung, for example, there was enough for an entire disc
of such material, most of which was in an almost-finished
state. “The Tull series has been a lot of fun,” he says, “finding
all these completely unreleased songs that even Ian can’t
remember recording. Apparently they quite often went into
the studio, recorded a song, and then literally forgot all about
it — didn’t even mix it!”

Topographic Equalisation
Wilson has so far remixed five Yes albums, and he’s
particularly pleased with the results on Tales From
Topographic Oceans, a recording that has had its critics since
it was released in 1973. You’ll recall that it’s the one with four

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Virtual Vintage

The biggest move forward in technological capability in recent years for The availability of good plug-in recreations of vintage gear makes Steven
Steven Wilson’s remixing work has come with plug-ins that recreate vintage Wilson’s job a lot easier, as here on Jethro Tull’s ‘Aqualung’.
studio effects. These make it easer to get sounds in the digital domain that analogue compressors, like the Fairchild or the 1176, and the EMT 140
are closer to the original analogue effects used on many classic records. “I’m plate — many of the things they were using at the time. The last couple of
using a lot of the Universal Audio plug-ins, which are fantastic emulations years I’ve been adding the UA Oxide Tape plug-in to the output bus, too,
of original analogue stuff. Now I’m able to use emulations of a lot of the old which definitely seems to give things a little more of that analogue magic.”

long pieces spread over four sides of the example, it might start off as a percussion fantastically ambitious, but he knows
original double vinyl album. “I was happy part, then there’d be a little bit of bass, that must have made it a nightmare to
with what I achieved with that one and then a backing vocal would come in, and mix originally. “So I come along 40 years
with Relayer, because I later, and of course I
don’t think those albums can load up the 24-track
sounded sonically as good original and split out
as the earlier ones,” he everything on to its own
says. “I’ve tended to most channel. So a 24-track
enjoy working on albums tape ended up being
that perhaps had some maybe an 80-channel
kind of problem with the session, because I’ve
original mix. So I figured given every little piece
OK, now that we’re its own track. And that
remixing, we can maybe means I can treat each of
fix some of those things.” those parts with its own
His aim on these two EQ, its own compression,
albums was to give them reverberation, treatment
more sonic richness and and placement. In that way,
clarity, more definition, and to make them then a guitar overdub, then it would go I was trying to get a little more out of it than
a little less harsh to listen to. “Topographic back to the percussion. And every track they possibly could in the original mix.”
Oceans was a particular challenge, with of the multitrack was like that. They were
these huge 20-minute pieces of music cramming every inch of every channel
Picking Up The Pieces
which were recorded on 24 tracks — on this 24-track tape. If Yes had had the At the time of writing, Wilson’s 5.1 remix
because what Yes were reaching for was limitless possibilities of digital recording of Seeds Of Love by Tears For Fears is
something way beyond the capabilities of available to them, they’d probably have awaiting release some time in 2019, its
24-track tape. I’d be taking one channel gone even further with their vision.” 30th anniversary year. It has been his most
in isolation on a 24-track tape and, for Wilson describes Topographic as complicated remixing job so far. It’s also

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On songs like ‘Ritual’, Yes squeezed
far more than 24 instruments onto 24
tracks; modern DAW recording gave
Steven Wilson the luxury of being able
to separate out all of these elements
onto their own Logic tracks.

one of his favourite records of all


time. “In terms of ’80s production,
it’s the very pinnacle for me,” he
says. “Yes, there’s a lot of digital
reverb on it, and yes, there’s a lot
of ’80s synthesizers on it, but the
songwriting, the craftsmanship, the
production, the engineering and the
mixing are flawless.” Which explains
why Wilson only did a 5.1 remix: it
would be pointless, he says, to try to
improve on the original stereo mix.
The original recording, too, was
anything but straightforward. It
took Roland Orzabal, Curt Smith,
and their collaborators around
three years to complete. And this
complexity feeds into Wilson’s
story, too. “They used different
studios, tried different musicians,
made different takes, had different
engineers, and so when we came to
consider the multitrack tapes, there
were many problems.” Some of the
songs were recorded with three
24-track tape machines running in
sync, essentially a master and two
slaves, resulting in up to 72 tracks of
recorded information.
“Not only that,” Wilson adds,
“but some of the tracks were
recorded over a long period of time.
Sometimes the takes had been
cloned, and then certain things
had been replaced. For example,
one take had been copied, and
then a different drummer had come in and when you’ve asked the record company to We tried going to Roland’s personal tape
overdubbed his drums over the top of bake another 10 or 20 tapes, and you’ve store, but it was nowhere to be found, and
somebody else’s drums. So you might think been back four or five times, and it’s nobody remembered where it had come
you’ve got the right slave tape for, say, ‘Year costing them an arm and a leg every time, from. So I took it off the original stereo
Of The Knife’, and then you load it up. You you get to the point where they say ‘Sorry, master tape, and of course then you can’t
hear the bass part’s right, the synth part’s we can’t bake any more tapes, you’re just do anything with that in surround, you’re
right, the vocals are right, but, oh dear, going to have to piece it together with just stuck with stereo. But,” he says with a
that’s a different drum take. Ah, we need what you’ve got.’” laugh, “it’s just a few seconds.”
to find a different slave reel with a different And that’s what Wilson did, using what
drum performance on it but all the other he estimates as 95 percent of the material
For The Fans
stuff the same.” he sought, and pushing forward with An important consideration for Wilson
To cut a very long story short, they never the help of the original engineer, David when he’s creating remixes is the audience.
found all the right parts. “So, for example, Bascombe. “In one case, I had to take the Perhaps that’s obvious, and yet there
the drum mix for ‘Woman In Chains’, which first five seconds of ‘Sowing The Seeds Of are other remixers who seem to work for
is Phil Collins, we never found the correct Love’ from the original stereo tape, those themselves rather than anyone else, who
drum multitrack slave — it’s just a stereo static sounds of radio tuning that I could seem to take too many liberties with the
bounce-down from one of the other reels. have had a lot of fun with in surround. I original. Wilson has the benefit of being a
That’s all I had to work with. Not ideal, but couldn’t find that on any of the multitracks. musician, a fan, and a performer, alongside

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Tears For Fears’ Seeds Of Love album has proved


to be Wilson’s most complex remix project so far. mess with someone else’s vision, but all the copies of the analogue tapes — then detail
same I think often it’s better that the artist that wasn’t there before will come out
his deep love of recording. “My approach isn’t too closely involved in the project, at anyway, almost without necessarily changing
probably doesn’t sit well with everyone, least during the main mixing process.” anything. Suddenly, you hear things that
though,” he says. “I’ve seen comments One artist refused to include a version of you didn’t hear before. When you get to
from people where they say they’ve bought a classic track with seven or so minutes of surround sound, that’s even more the case,
a Steven Wilson remix expecting something the band improvising beyond the original because you have this space and these
radical, but it sounds the same. But to other extra dimensions. Now you can hear things
people, that is the point. It’s the same as that you would never have heard in stereo.
they remember, just with a bit more clarity There’s a whole psychology going on with
and so on. I saw a comment about my the way people connect with remixing. It
Chicago II remix saying what was the point can be quite controversial, and I think if
if it’s so faithful to the original? Well, you I’ve achieved anything, I’ve minimised the
would hear a significant difference in the controversy by doing something that people
sonics if you compared them against each can at least appreciate, even if they would
other. But ultimately, on the surface, it’s not still rather hear the original mix.”
supposed to sound different.”
Wilson says he’s acutely aware of who
Work Work Work
he’s doing these remixes for, of who’s going We leave Wilson with his sixth solo album
to listen to them and what they want from to write and record, a slew of further live
them. “I’m primarily doing them for the shows to perform, a Blu-ray DVD of a recent
people who already know and love these Albert Hall date set for release, and various
records. It would be wonderful to think remixes in the works, including the next in
there’s a potential new audience that might his series for both Jethro Tull and XTC, plus
appreciate something because it’s been fade; another vetoed an out-take because a boxed set of Tangerine Dream material
remixed and made to sound a bit vivid for he hadn’t written it. Wilson has to be a set for release with his 5.1 remixes of
modern listening. But I think 99 percent of diplomat in addition to his technical duties. Phaedra, Ricochet and an unheard 1974
the audience are people who have bought He sums up his approach as being album. “Just use your ears,” he concludes.
these records at least once before, if not devoutly faithful to the original mix when “It doesn’t matter if it’s not perfect, or if you
three or four times.” he’s working in stereo, and creating don’t really know how or why it works. The
The artist can be an important something fresh when he’s working in question has to be: does it sound good? I
contributor to the process. “They have the surround. “When you’re working in digital didn’t go to audio school, I never learned
prerogative, of course, to change their own and remixing — at very high resolution, how to to use any of this stuff. I just messed
work,” Wilson says. “You don’t want to I should say, from beautifully transferred about until it sounded good.”

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