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Bourdieu (1999) has pointed out the relationship between our scholastic
formation and the assumptions we usually take uncritically. He asserts that
academics leave unconscious propositions – which generate unconscious theses –
acquired through scholastic experience in an unthought state. I will argue here
that one of those assumptions derived from academic life is the extra-corporeal
character of discourse. This presumption continues to inform the thought of
social sciences in relation to the body, even though it has been over three decades
since the ethnography of communication (Hymes, 1964), interactional socio-
linguistics (Gumperz, 1982), the anthropology (Bauman, 1986) and sociology of
performance (Carlson, 1996) began to cooperate in the criticism and replacement
of practices of research and analysis that separate discourse from the actions that
produce and surround it, and make it possible.
Several authors who have played a key role in calling our attention to the fact
that, when the body does not speak, read or write, it still retains and reproduces
a social and cultural memory, sometimes seem to leave the acts of writing and of
reading subtly out of the body. Bourdieu, for instance, wrote:
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. . . the body is thus constantly mingled with all the knowledge it reproduces and this
knowledge never has the objectivity it derives from objectification in writing and the conse-
quent freedom with respect to the body. (1993: 73)
This assertion appears as intuitively true, as it agrees with our educated common
sense. Obviously a written document, once completed and published, and as long
as it has not been read by anybody, is independent from the body of the author
who produced it and from the reader who will read it. However, we wonder why
it is so difficult to conceive of the specific forms we read and write in the same
way the author conceives of other corporeal actions, that is, as the result of a
mimesis involving the absolute immersion of our bodies in the compulsive repro-
duction of repetitive actions. To affirm that there is an embodied knowledge that
is radically different from another objective knowledge – the knowledge of
writers and readers – seems to reproduce the disembodiment of the discursive
activity in which we, as academics, are involved and which continues to appear
as extra-corporeal.
A similar differentiation between written and corporeal discourse is made by
Paul Connerton when analyzing incorporation practices and inscribing practices
in preserving cultural memories. The author writes:
In suggesting more particularly how memory is sedimented, or amassed, in the body, I want
to distinguish between two fundamentally different types of social practice. The first type of
action I shall call an incorporating practice. Thus a smile or a handshake or words spoken in
the presence of someone we address, are all messages that a sender or senders impart by means
of their own current bodily activity, the transmission occurring only during the time that their
bodies are present to sustain that particular activity. . . . The second type of action I shall call
an inscribing practice. Thus our modern devices for storing and retrieving information, print,
encyclopedias, indexes, photographs, sound tapes, computers, all require that we do something
that traps and holds information, long after the human organism has stopped informing. (1999:
72–3)
It should be said that the author admits that inscribing practices are not conceiv-
able without an aspect of incorporation. However, he says that ‘writing is a
habitual exercise of intelligence and will’ that is beyond the notice of the indi-
vidual who practices it ‘because of his/her familiarity with the procedure method’
(Connerton, 1999: 76–7). Thus, the lack of attention to body involvement in the
writing act remains naturalized instead of being analyzed as the product of the
habituation of specific reading and writing practices – acquired at school and
university – that construct selectively conscious bodies.
Immersed in this academic habit, we rarely consider writing and reading,
neither do we think about the conference, the seminar, and the college or school
class as physical activities. We often define the body precisely as something
human that does not produce nor perceive discourses. Thus, in the preface of a
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practices similar to those that built the monastic spirit as an agent different from
the flesh. These similarities, which merit a more detailed analysis, include, in the
first place, seclusion, that is, the isolation of bodies in a closed place, differenti-
ated from the general environment (Foucault, 1993: 145). Second, they would
include the monastic cell, the legacy of which consists of a distribution where
each body is assigned an office and each desk is assigned a body, thus preventing
the formation of groups and undifferentiated masses. Seclusion and isolation that
in monasteries placed the soul, alone, to face temptation as well as to concentrate
on divine contemplation (Foucault, 1993: 147), in universities seem to favor
isolated bodies to face the obligation to read and write, while interpersonal
contact not focused on such activities is constructed as distraction. Finally, rituals
in which whoever had the word – the abbot, bishop or priest – also had the auth-
ority and the highest place in the divine power hierarchy (Johnson, 2000) are
reproduced in college lectures and school classes (Wells, 1988) characterized by
a similar hierarchical distribution in relation to the right to introduce topics,
speak, ask questions and evaluate answers. Repeated exposure to rituals organ-
ized in this way seems to separate discourse from routine activities and invest it
with authority in the interior of the individual – an authority that is exercised
over other body activities. In other words, it helps to build a hierarchic body
scheme for which discourse is both separated from the body – as the university
campus is physically separated from city daily life – and is a locus of authority
and power. Such a body scheme may predispose academics to conceive of
discourse as the product of higher agents inhabiting the body but not belonging
to it: mind, intelligence or will.
Windows, if any, are opened to static views, thus avoiding visual stimulation
caused by living, moving creatures. Classrooms and halls are generally far from
kitchens or rest-rooms to avoid smells. Also, ideally, they are far from places
where loud voices or singing can be heard, or where music is being played, to
avoid the distraction of extraneous sounds. Immobility, lack of physical contact,
uniform clothes, the exclusion of meals and drinks, a limited number of visible
objects – everything seems to call attention to the word, to create selectively
conscious bodies that are attentive only to discourse, which thus becomes prac-
tically separated from every other perception.
Evaluation and editing rituals condition text writing and, indirectly, text
reading. Editing standards in journals reduce to a minimum the use of first- and
second-person pronouns, underlining, italics, exclamation marks, imperatives,
rhetorical questions and ironic interrogation marks. Thus, as suggested by
Tedlock (1982), the forms of discourse that we produce for publication, or that
we read or make others read within the academic environment, eliminate any
reference to a corporeal I, you or we, excluding any expression of intensity,
surprise, irony, urgency or emotion. Application of these rules makes texts look
like the products of a disembodied voice. This style is extended to the produc-
tion of verbal discourses in classes, lectures and scientific congresses. Here, oral,
monotonous exposition prevails, while gestures, body movement, changes in the
tone of voice and the use of first- and second-person pronouns is considered
exceptional.1 Furthermore, reading a written text that follows the conventions of
a scientific journal is an increasingly popular practice in lectures and congresses.
The incorporation by academics of such a disposition to produce and listen to
separate discourses is evident when something interferes with usual practices.
When, for instance, during a lecture somebody opens a window and a draught
of cold air comes in, or voices or music can be heard from the next room, or food
can be smelled, or when in the middle of an academic text there is a direct refer-
ence to the author or to the audience – all this is immediately experienced by
participants who have been trained in the ritual as a surprise, a nuisance or an
interference that must be suppressed. Under such circumstances, participants
shush, impose silence, get up to close doors and windows, or, when editing
written texts, suggest changes in wording.
The ability to separate discourses from the rest of the bodily sensations that
all these academic practices entail, and that university students have already
incorporated, is acquired in school through a painful training. Certain regular
school practices exercise the habit of producing discourses related to other
discourses, eliminating perception of all other elements in the surrounding
environment (Simons and Murphy, 1988). In the first place, school education
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contributes to the separation of discourse from the rest of the body by training
attention. In school rituals, the teacher’s instructions and questions call the atten-
tion towards what he/she is saying or is writing on the board. Students show the
‘correct’ direction of their attention by answering the teacher’s questions using a
discourse that should be different in form – but identical in meaning – to that
which he/she used before (Tusón and Unamuno, 1999). ‘Tell me what I have just
said in your own words,’ the teacher asks the student who seems to have become
‘distracted’ from the lecture by some element in the environment. On other
occasions, the student is expected to reproduce a discourse equivalent to what
he/she has read previously in a book. In post-1960s schools, discourses will not
necessarily be equivalent to those that have been heard or read, but related or
opposed to them. However, the practice of constructing a discourse based on
another discourse, without interference from or connection to other aspects of
the immediate environment, will continue to reproduce itself (Simons and
Murphy, 1988).2
Additionally, the school trains the body both not to pay attention to the quality
of the sound of the voice produced or listened to during an oral lecture, as well as
not to pay attention to the body movement involved in writing and speaking, but
to address the attention to understanding and allowing understanding, that is, to
producing and allowing production of equivalent discourses. The experience
resulting from training this selective inattention is that of a silent discourse that
guides the pen or the keyboard to write a sentence, without consciousness of the
involvement of body movement. The body movement that implies moving a pen
is thrown out of consciousness by leading attention to the ‘meaning’ of discourse.
Such lack of attention to the body movement involved in talking and writing
becomes evident when we compare it to the attention paid to their own movements
by followers of certain New Age techniques, such as conscious gymnastics or
sumi-e painting (Carozzi, 2000). Moreover, this inattentiveness to the body in
education practices has increased over the years. Half a century ago, in Buenos
Aires schools, for instance, students learned poems by heart, to reproduce the same
words they had read. Declamation, the proper way of modulating the sound of the
voice when pronouncing a discourse, was taught, as well as calligraphy, the proper
way to draw written words. These practices, which called the attention to the form
of saying or writing, have gradually been banished in the second half of the 20th
century, to focus attention on the content of discourse.
Academic forms of writing, reading and silent production of discourses seem
then to be imprinted on the body through the repeated participation in similar
school and academic ritual situations. These rituals generate definite areas of
consciousness and unconsciousness, constructing subjective body schemes
different from those produced by other rituals. Among their main characteristics
are: the separation of discourse from the ‘rest’ of the body; the focusing of atten-
tion on words and the suppression of consciousness of all other bodily sensations
while reading, writing, listening or speaking. Studies of the hidden curriculum of
the classroom (Jackson, 1991) argue that schools control learning and literacy,
while maintaining and enforcing social order (Bernstein, 1973); they separate the
respectable poor from the non-respectable poor and classify children with a view
to the labor market, promulgating the ideology that whoever is not successful at
school is less worthy and unable of making an effort (Cook-Gumperz, 1988).
The fact that a higher education is valued by virtually everybody in Western
countries, that it helps people to obtain better-paid or more prestigious jobs, and
that it is culturally associated with moral and intellectual values, adds value to the
disembodied discourse it encourages and helps to reproduce. An educated body,
having the competence to produce discourses about discourses, is not
constructed as just another body, but as a qualified body. Such a body is valued
in the labor market, is perceived as prestigious and is judged as morally superior.
Such distinction resonates with the fact that its products – discourses susceptible
of being written or pronounced on a dais – as opposed to other bodily products,
are considered as originating in the mind, which is the heir of the spirit in that it
is experienced as reigning over the body.
The results of the study allowed them to assert that what generated the
disposition to produce discourses was repeated participation in Western school
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activities, and not reading and writing learned in other environments. However,
such a disposition, constructed by scholastic rituals, is rarely conceived of in the
sociology, history and anthropology of the body as a bodily habit involving
impulse, affective disposition, identification and power over us, in the same way
as ‘body’ habits do. Let us see, for instance, how Connerton, in the following
paragraph, distinguishes the force of bodily habit from the acts of telling things
to ourselves and making formal decisions:
. . . what we can observe clearly in the case of bad habits is the hold they exert over us, the way
in which they impel us toward certain courses of action. These habits entail an inherent
tendency to act in a certain way, an impulsion strong enough to lead us habitually to do things
which we tell ourselves we should prefer not to do, and to act in ways that belie or override
our conscious decisions and formal resolutions. Dewey’s point is that this feature is not specific
to a particular class of bad habits; these characteristics of bad habits are precisely the features
which are most instructive about all habits. They remind us . . . that a predisposition formed
through the frequent repetition of a number of specific acts is an intimate and fundamental part
of ourselves, that such habits have power because they are so intimately a part of ourselves.
(1999: 93–4)
If we can appreciate the force of habit in both bad habits and in practicing skills
like knitting, dancing or playing soccer, it is because none of these have for us,
academics, the same force and power of identification as the acts of ‘telling things
to ourselves’ and ‘making conscious decisions’. We can perceive that the body
repeats certain non-discursive acts, but we cannot perceive the habit that prompts
us to produce discourses about what we perceive or do, precisely because we are
much more immersed in it. Indeed, our identification with this discursive dispo-
sition is so intense that we represent it with the pronoun ‘we’ in such assertions
as ‘we are possessed by habits’ and ‘we find ourselves trapped in habits’. The silent
discourse reproduction when ‘we tell ourselves what it is that we would prefer’
or talk about ‘our conscious decisions’ and ‘our formal resolutions’, is distin-
guished in our academic products from the force of the habit precisely because it
is the core habit we are immersed in and identify with when we talk or write.
If we consider that part of the effectiveness of rituals resides in their power to
install verbo-motor schemes able to generate certain states by merely adopting a
given body posture (Bourdieu, 1993), we may foresee that scholastic rituals – in
which all of us who produce discourses have taken part countless times – will
have as an effect that each time we sit quietly we will feel compelled to produce
a discourse, whether we pronounce it, write it or simply imagine it. This seems
to be indicated in the following text, produced by a Spanish philosopher as a
reaction in the face of the large number of articles published after the global TV
transmission of the Twin Towers’ collapse and the attack on the Pentagon,
extending the force of the scholastic habit to all human beings:
In the face of horror when everything is beyond control, in the face of a violent eruption we
can hardly understand, human beings cannot refrain from chattering analyses like children
whistle in the dark to drive fear away. (Savater, 2001)
The production of written discourses becomes a habit for the academic anthro-
pologist. As such, it forms a core part of his/her own sense of continuity, and a
privileged way to recover it if he/she has lost it while performing his/her field-
work. As for oral discourses, such identification is also visible in the feelings we,
academics, experience when giving a lecture or presenting a paper at a congress:
the fact that we feel exposed while speaking points to our identification with our
oral discursive action.
Identification with the discourse habit installed by repetition of scholastic
practices has certain visible consequences in academic production. In the first
place, it makes it difficult to assume a reflexive attitude about the differentiation
and hierarchization of discourse with respect to other corporeal activities. Such
reflexivity requires keeping a distance from the processes we academics are
involved in when developing our work (Myerhoff and Ruby, 1982). It is not
strange, then, that the first anthropologist who questioned the identification of
language with mental activity, and who conceptualized it as a kind of activity
among other socially cooperative ones – Bronislaw Malinowski – was also the
first to carry out fieldwork that kept him away for a long time from practice in
academic circles, where such identification is supported (Robins, 1976).
Some of the more common techniques in social sciences also seem to originate
in our identification with the discourse habit. Our academically informed bodies,
which separate words from the rest of experience and are identified with them as
their true being, construct the interview, the life history, the survey, the written
biography, as methods to explore the ‘beliefs’, ‘feelings’ and ‘experiences’ of
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people. From our scholarly habit we tend to assume that discourses people
produce, preferably sitting and isolated from non-discursive stimulus, represent
an inner, true world disclosed by their words (Carozzi, 2001). Research tech-
niques where discursive action is separated from the rest of behavior and invested
with a condition of truth can also be found in the anthropological production of
‘myth’ and ‘narrative’ as texts. Constructing myth and narrative as texts is some-
times the result of an interview, where the informant, sitting alone in front of the
investigator, is induced to tell stories. In other cases, discourse is separated from
the rest of bodily activity as the result of the work of the social scientist who
records what is said and then de-records it to build a text, leaving aside the
gestures, movements, tones, actions, interruptions and comments from other
people present.
Since the mid-1960s, the ethnography of communication (Hymes, 1964),
interactional sociolinguistics (Gumperz, 1982) and the anthropology (Bauman,
1986) and sociology of performance (Carlson, 1996) have contributed to a criti-
cism of some of these methodological practices that separate discourse from the
actions that produce, surround and make discourse possible (Carlson, 1996).
Meanwhile, such concepts as practical belief (Bourdieu, 1991) have helped to
overcome the identification of discourse production with inner commitment.
However, when we, social scientists, speak about the body, our identification
with the discourse habit continues so that we rarely consider the body as the
source of discourse. Our conception of the body as non-discursive and of
discourse as non-corporeal appears as the reflection of our own body schemes,
which in turn are the product of sustained participation in academic situations
where oral exposition, reading and writing are separated from the rest of our
activities. These schemes have crystallized in assumptions such as that discourse
production and perception are activities that do not originate in the body (Butler,
1993), that are radically distinguished from both bodily habits (Connerton, 1999)
and mimetic action, and that grant us freedom from our bodies (Bourdieu, 1993).
Conclusions
As other authors have pointed out, the renewed interest of social sciences in re-
incorporating our disciplines is related to changes produced during the second
half of the 20th century in the life conditions of members of educated urban
middle classes, to which most social scientists belong. These changes have
allowed us to experience new bodily schemes that compete for the hegemony of
the discursive body and consequently cannot be relegated to deviation or alterity.
In the first place, the development of specific technologies – gym machines,
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Notes
I am grateful to three anonymous referees and to Alejandro Firgerio, Lydia Nakashima Degarrod and
participants in the Seminario General of the Graduate Program in Social Anthropology,
IDES/IDAES/UNSAM, for their comments on previous versions of this article.
1. An example of unusual body movement during a lecture is provided by Featherstone (1995: 51)
who, referring to Georg Simmel, quotes a paragraph illustrating how his gestures, the turns of his body
and the movements of his hands made his expositions extraordinary in the eyes of his contemporaries.
2. Simons and Murphy (1988) give the name ‘text-dependent language’ to the language developed
and demanded at schools and mention as its distinctive characteristic that it makes no reference to the
immediate social situation but that it is only related to text. The production of such language requires
removing the time and space context where students are situated.
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María Julia Carozzi is a research fellow of the National Council for Scientific Research, Argentina,
and Professor of Anthropology at the Argentine Catholic University. She received her PhD degree in
Anthropology from the University of California, Los Angeles, in 1988 and since then she has
conducted research on interaction in multi-ethnic classrooms, religious conversion processes, and the
construction of social movement frames through discourse and interaction. Her most recent books are
A Nova Era no Mercosul (Petrópolis: Vozes, 1999) and Nueva Era y Terapias Alternativas:
Construyendo significados en el Discurso y la Interacción (Buenos Aires: Educa, 2000). She is currently
researching the social construction of bodies in ritual contexts.