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Pesky jones 2.0 TFSI engine code differences
« on: November 23, 2016, 02:20:23 pm »
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Be good to get some solid facts.

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AXX - 2.0 TFSI is born 

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BWA - Same block and internals as AXX, but different pistons... weaker or
stronger? Revised HPFP. Some, but not all (?) have revised inlet cam
shafts

BYD - 4 bolt main caps, different pistons/rods (iirc) due to lower

compression, different cyl head material, K04-061 turbo, front mounted
DV, plus some other shat!

BWJ -
BHZ -

CDL -

Fill in the blanks :)

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Pudding Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2016, 03:18:37 pm »
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Good idea!
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BYD - 4 bolt main caps, different pistons/rods (iirc) due to lower
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compression, different cyl head material, K04-061 turbo, front mounted
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DV, plus some other shat!

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Shoduchi Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2016, 04:36:34 pm »

Thank You You can find a similar post on vwvortex or some other golf mk5 forum.
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When I have some time I'll check it again.
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Pudding Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2016, 04:58:09 pm »
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I'm sure I've read CDL (same as BYD, but S3 if I'm not mistaken) has
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It seems to be the THE engine to have going by the Facebook group
comments.

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AJP Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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Just look at my post count « Reply #4 on: November 23, 2016, 06:25:52 pm »

Thank You I remember a long chat at Statller a while ago and I'm pretty sure Steve
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Shoduchi Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2016, 07:37:56 pm »

Thank You Yes, the intake cam of the CDL has a larger lobe compared to the BYD.
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The AXX/BWA have a bit smaller lobe compared to the K04 engines too.
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AFAIK the CDL head flows better as well.

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GTIEagles Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2016, 08:40:32 pm »

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Some AXX engines have the rev b cams as does mine.
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Shoduchi Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2016, 11:23:12 pm »

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This is what I've gathered from ETKA.
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AXX/BWA (200 CV)
BYD (230 CV)

BWJ (240 CV)

BHZ (265 CV)

CDL (270 CV)

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Cylinder head:
AXX/BWA - 06D
103 351 D and 06F 103 265 BX

BYD/BWJ/BHZ - 06F 103 351 F to 06F 103 265 DX

CDL - 06F 103 351 to 06F 103 265 EX

Piston:

107 066 D
AXX - 06D
BWA - 06D 107 066 C

BYD/BWJ/BHZ - 06D 107

066 K
CDL - 06D 107 066 L to S

Connecting rod:

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AXX/BWA - 06D 198 401 E

BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 198 401 to 06D 198 401 G

Bolt connecting rod:

AXX/BWA - WHT006219
BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - WHT001319

Crankshaft:
AXX/BWA/BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06A 105 021 AR to 06A 105 021 BP

Camshaft intake:
AXX/BWA - 06F 109 101 B 
BYD/BWJ/BHZ - 06F 109 101 G
CDL - 06F 109 101 H to K

Camshaft exhaust:
AXX/BWA - 06F 109 102 B
BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 109 102 D to F

Crankcase housing:
AXX/BWA - 06F 103 011 F
BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 103 011 K

Injector:
AXX/BWA - 06F 906 036 A
BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 906 036 F

Turbo and manifold:

BWA - 06F 145 701 C to H
BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 145 702 C

Air box:
AXX/BWA - 06F 133 837 AH
BYD - 06F 133 837 AJ
CDL - 06F 133 835 K

Air filter:
AXX/BWA - 06F 133 843 A
BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 133 843 B

Intercooler:
AXX/BWA/BYD/BWJ - 1K0 145 803 A to S to T
BHZ - 1K0 145 803 P
CDL - 1K0 145 803 BP to 3AA 145 805 C

Intake manifold:
AXX/BWA/BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 133 201 P

Spark plug "longlife":

AXX/BWA/BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06H 905 601 A (NGK)

Ignition coil:
AXX/BWA/BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 07K 905 715 F to G

Flywheel:
AXX/BWA - 06F 105 266 K
BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 105 266 AD to AG

Clutch:
AXX/BWA/BYD/BWJ/BHZ/CDL - 06F 141 015 C

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Pesky jones Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2016, 12:31:21 am »

Thank You
Great to have that info here!
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Pesky jones Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2016, 12:47:49 am »

Thank You Going by the part number revisions of the pistons, it would appear that
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BWA actually uses an earlier revision piston then the AXX...?
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Also, i'm not sure but I think for the intake camshaft that some AXXs and
BWAs also use the revision A camshaft. The rev B camshaft has a two
piece lobe that drives the hpfp opposed to the weaker revision A one piece
lobe.

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Shoduchi Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2016, 04:03:15 am
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Yes, that's right. The ETKA I've used to get part numbers is free (so less
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complete) and I didn't check Golfs before 2006.

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Pesky jones Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2016, 09:44:20 am
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bwa with rev A inlet camshaft any stronger than an axx?
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Shoduchi Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2016, 04:40:50 pm
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I see. Wierd that the bwa pistons are an earlier revision. What makes a bwa
with rev A inlet camshaft any stronger than an axx?

Nah, rev A inlet camshaft is soft and wears out. Rev B is much better.
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Don't know why BWA have earlier revision pistons but as you might know
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BWA can't handle torque as well because the con rods bend.

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jhook661 Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2016, 07:22:50 pm
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Can you fit CDL camshafts and valve springs on a axx engine ?
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Pesky jones Re: 2.0 TFSI engine code
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2016, 11:07:25 pm
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Quote from: Peskyjones on November 24, 2016, 09:44:20 am

I see. Wierd that the bwa pistons are an earlier revision. What makes a bwa
with rev A inlet camshaft any stronger than an axx?

Nah, rev A inlet camshaft is soft and wears out. Rev B is much better.

Don't know why BWA have earlier revision pistons but as you might know
BWA can't handle torque as well because the con rods bend.

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Sorry might have worded that wrong, I was saying that as some bwas
come with the weaker rev A, then if you do have a bwa with a rev a
camshaft, then because the axx has revised pistons, then the bwa is no
better than the axx, if anything - weaker. Which would seem contradictory
to me as bwa is the revised axx.

Didnt know anything about the torque thing for bwa

Quote from: jhook661 on November 24, 2016, 07:22:50 pm

Can you fit CDL camshafts and valve springs on a axx engine ?

Well, both the camshafts and the head have been revised for the cdl (as
per post above) but i dont know whether the difference between the two
has anything to do with the fit of the camshafts or springs. Pretty sure you
can however put a cdl complete head on an axx block however. @vRSAlex
could probably tell you.

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