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Build a Greenland kayak part 5

by nativewater on December 25, 2007

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Build a Greenland kayak part 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1

Intro: Build a Greenland kayak part 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2

Step 1: Materials . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2

Step 2: Tools . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2

Step 3: Cutting rib blanks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2

Step 4: Soak the rib blanks in water . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3

Step 5: Cut up the rib blanks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3

Step 6: Round the edges of the rib blanks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3

Step 7: Mark the bend position . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4

Step 8: Rib shape . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4

Step 9: Rib steaming . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7

Step 10: Bend ribs with hot water . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7

Step 11: Rib bending strategy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8

Step 12: Rib fairing strategy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9

Step 13: Rib trimming strategy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10

Step 14: Bend your first rib. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10

Step 15: Mark the rib for trimming . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10

Step 16: Trim the rib . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11

Step 17: Taper the rib ends . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11

Step 18: Insert the rib in its mortises . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12

Step 19: Bend the rest of your ribs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12

Step 20: Put in ribs near the ends of the boat . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13

Step 21: All the ribs are in place . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14

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Intro: Build a Greenland kayak part 5

In this instructable you will be adding ribs to form the hull of your kayak. This involves bending wood with steam or hot water. Although this may sound like a daunting
prospect, it isn't. There's a total of 24 ribs to bend. If you have no experience bending wood when you start, you will be quite good by the time you're done.

Step 1: Materials
Ribs are best made out of hardwoods like oak. Softwoods like pine or spruce don't bend nearly as well. Elm bends even better than oak, although you're not likely to find
it at most lumberyards. Ash is also a good bending wood.

I like to get my oak boards in 3 inch widths, 5 to 8 foot long. I pick through the boards to find ones that have flat grain that runs straight for the whole length of the board.
The longer the board, the less likely it is that its grain is going to be straight for the whole length of the board. The boards should also be free of any irregularities in the
grain.

Ribs need to be about 8 inches longer than the width of the gunwales where they are being inserted. For estimation purposes figure an average of 24 inches per rib. Lets
say you buy boards that are 5 feet long and 2-1/2 inches wide. Your ribs will be 1/4 inch thick, so you can get about 7 sticks out of each board assuming you lose 1/8 inch
per cut. Each of those sticks will give you two ribs, so each board will give you 14 ribs. Allowing for breakage means that you will probably need three of those 5 foot
boards to make all the ribs for your boat.

Step 2: Tools
Steambox for heating the ribs
Gloves for protecting your hands from hot wood
Saw for trimming the ribs
Clamps for holding the ribs in place on the boat

Step 3: Cutting rib blanks

The easiest way to make rib blanks is to run your board through a table saw, cutting it up into strips 1/4 inch thick by 3/4 inches wide.
Ribs bend most easily and with the least amount of breakage if you cut your blanks so they have vertical grain. To do that, start out with a plank that has flat grain. The
slices you cut off the flat grained plank will have vertical grain.

Image Notes
1. Grain, that is growth rings in this board are parallel to the flat face of the
board. This is called flat grain. If we slice rib blanks out of this board by making Image Notes
cuts at a right angle to the flat face, we will end up with ribs that have vertical 1. Here is a slice of rib taken off a three inch wide board. This piece of wood is
grain. 1/4 inch thick in the vertical direction and 3/4 inches wide in the horizontal
direction. The run of the grain is now vertical.
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Step 4: Soak the rib blanks in water
Ribs need to soak in water for about 3 days before you bend them. I made soaking trough out of a section of rain gutter with the ends capped off. I soak the rib blanks full
length and do not cut them up into shorter sections until it's time to steam.

Step 5: Cut up the rib blanks

When you're ready to steam the ribs, pull the blanks out of the soaking trough and cut them up into individual ribs. Length of the rib should be the width of the gunwales
plus two hand breadths. You could of course cut all the ribs ahead of time, but it's a good idea to make sure that gunwale width plus 2 hand widths is long enough by
bending a trial rib first.

Image Notes
1. Cut your rib blanks so they are at least a hand's width ( 4 inches ) wider than the gunwales on each side.

Step 6: Round the edges of the rib blanks

Round the edges of the ribs with a spoke shave. One or two passes with the spokeshave is sufficient. Rounding the edges makes the ribs less susceptible to splitting. It
also makes them more comfortable to sit on.

Image Notes
1. Though the spoke shave is designed as a two handed tool, it is light enough to be used with one hand. One or two strokes down each edge is enough to round the
edges.

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Step 7: Mark the bend position
With the rib blank laying across the gunwales, make a mark on the rib two fingers width in from the edge of the gunwales on both sides. This is roughly where you want
the major bends of the rib to be. The section between the marks should be more or less flat to slightly arched.

Image Notes
1. Mark the rib two finger's width (1-1/2 inches) in from the gunwales on both sides. This will be where you want to concentrate the bends on your rib.

Step 8: Rib shape

Rib shape in the middle of the boat near the cockpit should be slightly arched in the middle with a sharper bend toward the sides.
As you proceed toward the bow, the hull will get narrower and taller so that the ribs start becoming more arched in the center.
As you move toward the stern of the boat, the hull becomes flatter so the ribs tend to stay flat in the middle with the bends concentrated near the edges until the very end.

In general, the flatter the ribs are in the middle, the flatter the bottom of the kayak will be and the more stable it will feel.
Ribs that are more uniformly arched throughout will give you a more rounded hull that is less stable but slightly faster and livelier than a flat bottomed hull.
If you are building your first kayak or don't have much paddling experience go for the more flat hull.

Image Notes
1. Here's the view of a completed hull looking aft. The flat ribs make for a flat
bottomed hull which makes for a stable boat.
Image Notes
1. If you want a stable boat, make the ribs flat in the middle.
2. Most of the bend in these ribs is concentrated toward the ends of the ribs.

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 Image Notes
1. This is a narrow, 18 inch wide boat with ribs arched even toward the middle of
the boat. This boat will be lively and need an experienced paddler to keep
upright. Avoid narrow round bottomed hulls unless you have lots of paddling
experience.

Image Notes
1. This boat is 22 inches wide and has much flatter ribs in the middle. This will
be a reasonably stable boat suitable for a first time paddler.

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 Image Notes
1. Even though this boat is only 19 inches wide, the builder still managed to get
the ribs fairly flat.
2. Ribs toward the bow become more arched.

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Step 9: Rib steaming
You will need to steam your ribs to get them hot enough to make the wood plastic enough to bend. See my instructable on how to make a steam box for details.

Image Notes
1. This steambox is made out of plywood which is both a good insulator and resistant to warpage.
2. This is the open end of the steambox thourh which we insert and remove ribs. A wet rag over the opening acts as a door that keeps the heat in.
3. Our steam source is a pot of water set on top of a camp stove. A hotplate will also do and is less dangerous (no open flames) and more convenient.

Step 10: Bend ribs with hot water

If you don't feel like going to the trouble of making a steambox, you can also bend wood by using hot water. Bring water to a boil in a kettle and then ladle it over the rib
repeatedly. After about a minute or so, the rib should be pliable enough to bend.

Image Notes
1. A soup ladle transports boiling water from the pot below to the rib.
2. The rib is heated by the boiling water. You will need to experiment to find out how many pours of water it takes to make the rib pliable.

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Step 11: Rib bending strategy
Start with a rib near the middle of the boat in the cockpit area. Put it in the steam box and let it steam for about 5 minutes. 5 minutes will be long enough. As you get into
the swing of things, you might find out that you will need to steam them even less than 5 minutes. Exact time depends on your wood, how wet it is and how hot your
steambox is.

Your next rib can be on either side of the first rib. Alternate back and forth until you have about 10 ribs in place, then put in all the ribs toward the stern. After that put in
ribs toward the bow.

The reason for finishing one end of the boat and not hopping back and forth after you have the first ten ribs in is that the progression of shape in the front and the back of
the boat is different and it is easier to get the transition of shape right if you stay on one end of the boat.

When you made the gunwales, you cut rib mortises to within 24 inches of the ends. You will probably find that gunwales at the last rib mortise are so close together that
getting a tight enough bend in the middle of the rib is impossible without breaking it. So you can leave the last rib mortise on either end un-occupied.

After you pull a rib out of the steambox, you have a limited amount of time to bend it. Once it cools down, the rib begins to stiffen up. So you need to work fast. Once you
have clamped the bent rib to the gunwales, you can still make adjustments to the shape, but the major bending should be done while the rib is right out of the steambox.

Ribs will remain pliable as long as they're wet. As they dry, they stiffen up and settle into their new bent shape.

Image Notes
1. The rib is coming out of the steamer. Image Notes
2. Gloves protect the hands of the builder. These gloves will get wet, so don't 1. If you want flat ribs, do a separate bend at each end of the rib rather than
use your good pair that you wear to the opera. arching the whole rib.
3. After you have the rib out, put the curtain back over the opening of the steam
box to keep the heat in.

Image Notes
1. This is a short rib for one of the ends of the boat and we want a uniform arch
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 the whole length of the rib.

Image Notes
1. Our builder is using his stomach to push against the center of the rib to keep it
flat and concentrate the bends toward the edges.

Step 12: Rib fairing strategy

The transition in shape from rib to rib needs to be smooth especially along the line that the two hull stringers are going to follow. The hull stringers will be supported by the
ribs and if there are gaps between the ribs and the stringer, the stringer will not follow a smooth curve. So as you start putting in ribs near the ends of the boat, take a long
piece of wood and lay it over the ribs where the stringers will be and make sure there are no gaps

Image Notes
1. Ribs need to be shaped so the hull stringers make contact with every rib.

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Step 13: Rib trimming strategy
You will have cut your rib blanks longer than they need to be. Once you have a rib clamped in place you will eventually need to trim it so the ends will fit into the rib
mortises. If you only have two clamps or not enough clamps for all the ribs, then you will have to alternately bend, trim and seat your ribs.

Step 14: Bend your first rib.

When your first rib blank has steamed long enough, put on your gloves. Grab the next rib you will be working on, slide it into the steambox and pull the first rib out of the
steambox. Cover the opening of the steambox back up so you don't lose heat.

Grab the rib on either side of the bend mark and bend it. Then bend the other side. Shove the rib between the gunwales and under the keelson and clamp it to the
gunwales. Go to the end of the boat and check to see if the height of both bends is the same and symmetrical. If not, loosen the clamps and adjust the position of the rib
to make it symmetrical.

In general, ribs want to arch up in the middle so that you need to push the legs of the ribs up at the sides to flatten out their shape in the middle.
When you are happy with the shape, move on to your next rib.

Image Notes
1. Insert the first rib near the center of the boat. Make sure it is symmetrical. You
will be bending the other ribs around it to match this shape.

Image Notes
1. Our builder is using his stomach to push against the center of the rib to keep
it flat and concentrate the bends toward the edges.

Step 15: Mark the rib for trimming

With the rib clamped in place, mark where it intersects the gunwale.
Also put a mark at the top of the rib at the keelson to indicate which side of the rib faces forward. After you trim the rib to length you will want to insert it with the right side
facing forward.

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 Image Notes
1. Mark the intersection of the rib with the gunwale. We will trim the rib 5/8 inch beyond the mark to allow for the depth of the rib mortise that the rib will be seated in.

Step 16: Trim the rib

Trim the rib 5/8 of an inch longer than your mark.

Rib mortises are half an inch deep. We add an eigth of an inch in length to make up for the fact that the rib ends will be farther apart when seated in their mortises.

Image Notes
1. We're using a stick that we cut to a width of 5/8 inches to mark how much we Image Notes
want the rib ends to extend below the gunwale. 1. We are trimming the rib with a fine toothed saw.

Step 17: Taper the rib ends

Taper the sides of the ribs down to 1/2 inch at the end. Also put a slight taper on the outside face of the rib end.

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 Image Notes
1. We're using a chisel to taper the ends of the trimmed rib.

Step 18: Insert the rib in its mortises

Seat the rib ends in their mortises at an angle, then tilt the rib upright.

Image Notes
1. Insert the rib with the top tilted toward the center of the boat. Tilt the rib upright and push it around a little to make sure it is symmetrical.

Step 19: Bend the rest of your ribs

As you bend each new rib, bend it to fit in with the ribs that are already in place. You will need to keep a good transition of shape from rib to rib as the boat becomes more
narrow toward the ends. It isn't enough that each rib is symmetrical, it must also relate well to its neighbors.

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 Image Notes
1. As you insert each new rib, pay special attention to the area where the chine stringers will sit on the ribs. The ribs must flow smoothly from one to the next so that
each rib will be supporting the stringer.

Step 20: Put in ribs near the ends of the boat

Ribs near the ends of the boat are more strongly arched than the ribs in the center of the boat. So they are more likely to break when you try to bend them. Breakage at
this point is normal. If your ribs break, shave them down in the center to maybe 1/8 inch thickness and they will be able to handle a tighter bend.

Image Notes
1. Here the last rib ended up under the stem board. We cut a notch and just used two separate pieces of rib stock instead of trying to bend one piece to an extreme
angle.
2. The second rib is cracked in the center. It couldn'd do this extreme a bend. It's ok for the rib to be cracked since the crack is right under the keelson.
3. The third rib was the last rib going forward that was bent to a pointed arch.

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Step 21: All the ribs are in place
You're done with this part of the instructable. Take a breather. You just finished the hardest part of making a kayak.

When we come back, you will be adding chine stringers and deck stringers to your kayak and doing a few other little odds and ends to complete the frame of your kayak.

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Comments
12 comments Add Comment

Boatdoc says: Mar 6, 2010. 10:51 PM REPLY

Hello...I've just clamped up all the ribs, and have a question about the hull stringers. Do they lay on the 3/4'' edge or flat to the ribs? Thanks, this has been
alot of fun!

nativewater says: Mar 7, 2010. 7:31 AM REPLY

they lay on the 3/4 edge. The stringers support the skin and should provide at least half an inch of clearance between the skin and the ribs. Remember
the water pressure will push in the skin a little. Lay a stick between the stringer and the keelson to check clearance between skin and ribs.

Boatdoc says: Mar 7, 2010. 10:47 PM REPLY

Thanks for the clarification on the stringers...and the advice on checking the clearance.

KCB1 says: Apr 25, 2009. 1:55 PM REPLY

I'm using kiln dried Red Oak for my ribs and I'm soaking them for over a week before steaming ... but they're coming out of the steamer pretty dry. How do I
prevent the ribs from drying out too much in the steam box?

nativewater says: Apr 29, 2009. 9:50 AM REPLY

wood drying out on the surface is normal because the steambox is hot. When you first put the ribs in the box, steam condenses on them and they end up
looking wet, but once they heat up, they dry on the surface. If they have soaked in water for a week, they shouldn't need to be in the steambox for more
than a few minutes, 5 max. If anything, leaving them in too long causes them to delaminate when you try to bend them. I generally soak the ribs for 3
days then steam them for two to 3 minutes. Actual time varies on the particular batch of ribs. Red oak is a generic term and can include any number of
species of oak. Some bend more easily than others. They also vary in how much water they soak up.

j2gcarter says: Mar 8, 2009. 7:19 AM REPLY

In your description of the wood to be used you did not mention that the wood needs to be air dried and not kiln dried. The kiln drying process will harden the
cellular stature and you will not be able to bend toe wood.

nativewater says: Mar 9, 2009. 9:46 AM REPLY

Right. Wood for bending ideally comes directly from the mill and has never been dried at all. But you can work with kiln dried wood if you soak it first for a
few days. But kiln dried wood even after soaking will not bend to as tight of a bend as wood that hasn't been kiln dried.

crasch48 says: Oct 10, 2008. 5:18 PM REPLY

using Eucalyptus might not be a good idea. Eucalyptus was brought to America because it grows fast in arid areas for railroad ties. it was too soft and
porous, also it rotted easily so it was abandoned as a building material.

nativewater says: Oct 14, 2008. 11:28 AM REPLY

I wouldn't rule out eucalyptus saplings. But like you say, larger timbers have all kinds of problems. Given enough time, I would bend a sapling, set it into
some kind of form and see what it looks like after sitting in a dry place for a month or two. I would check for shrinkage and warping. If these were
tolerable, I would go ahead and use the wood. Resistance to rot is not a major issue for SOF boats since they do not stay in the water. Worst case, if
your boat was hopelessly deformed after a year, take off the skin and put new ribs on it. This is not a huge project like replacing the hull of a conventional
wooden boat.

skuthorp says: Jul 16, 2008. 8:53 PM REPLY

What about green timber for the ribs? I have thickets of Eucalyptus saplings that will have to be cleared for fire prevention purposes and shaved somewhat
will bend easily and I thought might do the job. Incidentally I have a half-finished S&G kayak in the shed which will be superseded by two of these beautiful
craft. It's almost a pity to put a skin on them. Sku

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 nativewater says: Jul 21, 2008. 9:10 AM REPLY
If the saplings are flexible enough you can use them. Ideally you can bend them green without steaming. I have used various kinds of wood in the past.
For a kayak, pick saplings that are about 1/2 inch in diameter with the bark on. With the bark peeled, they should be about 3/8 inch in diameter. Space
the ribs 4 inches apart - you can then drill circular mortises instead of cutting rectangular mortises for the flat ribs. For more details, go to
http://www.wolfgangbrinck.com/boats/boatbuilding/ribs/greenribs.html

GorillazMiko says: Dec 26, 2007. 1:48 PM REPLY

wow, this is one of the best instructables i have ever seen. (im talking about all the steps)

http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Greenland-kayak-part-5/