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ACI 376 Committee Concrete Structures for RLG Containment

Main Committee Meetings

Sunday, November 2, 2008


9:00 AM – 5:00 PM
Renaissance Grand & Suites Hotel, St. Louis, MO
Room: R-Landmark 5
&
Monday, November 3, 2008
9:00 AM – 2:00 PM
Renaissance Grand & Suites Hotel, St. Louis, MO
Room: R-Majestic Ballroom C

1. REVIEW, RESOLUTION & RE-BALLOTING OF NEGATIVE VOTES – Chapter 1 (Continued)

2. REVIEW & RESOLUTION OF APPROVED WITH COMMENT VOTES – Chapter 1 (Continued)

3. REVIEW & DISCUSSION OF THE COMPLETE VOTING RECORD


Review of non-edited draft ACI 376 Code, review and approval of the voting record.

4. REVIEW, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF THE EDITED DOCUMENT


Review and comparison of the edited draft ACI 376 Code vs. the non-edited version, and approval of editorial changes.

5. ADJOURNMENT

ACI 376 – Saint Louis Fall Meeting 2008 Agenda


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ACI 376 Committee Concrete Structures for RLG Containment

Tuesday, November 4, 2008


9:00 AM – 12:00 PM
Renaissance Grand & Suites Hotel, St. Louis, MO
Room: R-Majestic Ballroom G

1. REVIEW & DISCUSSION OF THE COMPLETE VOTING RECORD (Continued)


Review of non-edited draft ACI 376 Code, review and approval of the voting record.

2. REVIEW, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF THE EDITED DOCUMENT (Continued)


Review and comparison of the edited draft ACI 376 Code vs. the non-edited version, and approval of editorial changes.

3. ADJOURNMENT 12:00 PM

Wednesday, November 5, 2008


9:00 AM – 5:00 PM
Renaissance Grand & Suites Hotel, St. Louis, MO
Room: C-240

1. REVIEW & DISCUSSION OF THE COMPLETE VOTING RECORD (Continued)


Review of non-edited draft ACI 376 Code, review and approval of the voting record.

2. REVIEW, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF THE EDITED DOCUMENT (Continued)


Review and comparison of the edited draft ACI 376 Code vs. the non-edited version, and approval of editorial changes.

3. ADJOURNMENT 5:00 PM

ACI 376 – Saint Louis Fall Meeting 2008 Agenda


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ACI 376 Committee Concrete Structures for RLG Containment

Thursday, November 6, 2008


9:00 AM – 5:00 PM
Renaissance Grand & Suites Hotel, St. Louis, MO
Room: R-Westminster

1. REVIEW & DISCUSSION OF THE COMPLETE VOTING RECORD (Continued)


Review of non-edited draft ACI 376 Code, review and approval of the voting record.

2. REVIEW, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF THE EDITED DOCUMENT (Continued)


Review and comparison of the edited draft ACI 376 Code vs. the non-edited version, and approval of editorial changes.

3. ADJOURNMENT 5:00 PM

Respectfully submitted,
Neven Krstulovic-Opara
Chairman, ACI 376

cc: D. W. Falconer (TAC Secretary and Managing Director of Engineering)


R. Janowiak (TAC Contact Member)

ACI 376 – Saint Louis Fall Meeting 2008 Agenda


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ACI 376 Committee Concrete Structures for RLG Containment

ACI Committee 376


Concrete Structures for
Refrigerated Liquefied Gas (RLG) Containment

Minutes
Main Committee Meeting

Thursday, June 19, 2008


11:00 AM – 5:00 PM
and
Friday, June 20, 2008
8:30 AM – 5:00 PM
ExxonMobil Development Company,
14250 Greenspoint Drive
Houston, TX 77060

ATTENDANCE
Voting Members: Kare Hjorteset Associate Members:
Neven Krstulovic, Chairman George Hoff Tom Ballard
Piotr Moncarz Secretary Richard Hoffman Nick Lombardi
Tom Howe Paul Sullivan
Junius Allen Joe Hoptay
Dale Berner Dajiu Jiang
Hamish Douglas
Visitors:
Jameel Khalifa Jeff Garrison
Michael Brannan Steve Meier
Charles Hanskat Robert Nussmeier
Rolf Pawski
R.S. Rajan

1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Krstulovic at 11 A.M.

2. AGENDA
The Chairman provided copies of the Los Angeles meeting minutes (Appendix A). Meeting Minutes were unanimously approved.

ACI 376 – Houston, Full Committee Meeting Minutes, June 19 & 20, 2008
ACI 376 Committee Concrete Structures for RLG Containment

4. OLD BUSINESS
None.

5. APPROVAL OF COMMITTEE DOCUMENTS


5.1 Voting on Negative Votes
The following negative votes from the previous ballots were reviewed and voted on:
a) R5.1.5 & R5.2.5
b) 7.7.2
c) APPENDIX A - GENERAL COMMENT
d) 10.2.x - Anchorage
e) 10.3.x – Pressure and Vacuum Relief Testing –
f) Negatives from the ballot on “4th Ballot on Chapter VII - 5/19 to 6/18/2008”
g) Negatives from the ballot on “1st Ballot on INTRODUCTION, Chapter I & Appendix AA - 5/19 to 6/18/2008”
Voting results are attached with these minutes.

5.2 Review and Resolution of Approved-with-Comment votes


The following Approved-with-Comment votes from the previous ballots were reviewed and resolved:
• 5.1 – Load Factors for the ULS of the Primary • R5.2.6 – Shrinkage
Container • R5.2.7 – Creep
• R5.1.1 – Dead Loads • R5.2.8 – General Live Loads
• R5.1.3 – Product Pressure • R5.2.9 – Differential Settlement
• R5.1.4 – Thermal and/or Moisture • R5.2.10.1 – Wind
• R5.1.6 – Shrinkage • R5.2.10.2 – Other
• R5.1.7 – Creep • R5.2.11 – Seismic Loads
• R5.1.8 – General Live Loads • R7.2.2.2
• R5.1.9 – Differential Settlement • 7.8.5
• R5.1.10.1 – Wind • Appendix A – General Comment
• R5.1.10.2 – Other • Approved-with-Comment from the ballot on “4th
• R5.1.11 – Seismic Loads Ballot on Chapter VII - 5/19 to 6/18/2008”
• R5.1.12 – Explosion and Impact • Approved-with-Comment from the ballot on “1st
• R5.2.1 – Dead Loads – Ballot on INTRODUCTION, Chapter I & Appendix AA
• R5.2.3 – Product Pressure - 5/19 to 6/18/2008”
• R5.2.4 – Thermal and/or Moisture
Voting results are attached with these minutes.

6. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 5:00 P.M.

Respectfully submitted,
Piotr Moncarz, Secretary

August 29, 2008

ACI 376 – Houston, Full Committee Meeting Minutes, June 19 & 20, 2008
ACI 376 Committee Concrete Structures for RLG Containment

Appendix A: Approved ACI 376 Los Angeles Meeting Minutes

ACI 376 – Houston, Full Committee Meeting Minutes, June 19 & 20, 2008
ACI 376 Committee Concrete Structures for RLG Containment

Appendix B: Resolved and/or approved Negative and Approved-


with-Comment votes

ACI 376 – Houston, Full Committee Meeting Minutes, June 19 & 20, 2008
ACI 376 / 376 R Last Update: 6 / 20 / 2008
INTRODUCTION & CHAPTER I – GENERAL
1st Ballot – 5/19 – 6/18/2008 &
Full Committee Houston Meeting on 6 / 19 – 20 / 2008
Page 1 of 15

INTRODUCTION and CHAPTER 1 – GENERAL Approved Sections


Section Approved with Comments to be resolved
App = 13, Neg = 1, App w com = 5, Abs = 2 – Chapter 1 Negative Vote

App = 15 Neg = 1 App w com = 3 Abs = 3 – App AA

Latest Text Reviewed Vote Committee Members’ COMMENTS Author RESPONSE Notes
ADD MISSING
DEFINITIONS FROM
THE LA MEETING

INTRODUCTION
(paragraph 1)
This Code and Commentary was prepared by ACI
Committee 376. The formation of Committee 376 and the
drafting of this document were undertaken in response to a
request in February 2003 bt the National Fire Protection
Association (NFPA) Technical Committee 59A on
Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG). That Committee is
responsible for NFPA Standard 59A, “Standard for the
Production, Storage, and Handling of Liquefied Natural
Gas (LNG)”, which is an internationally recognized
document governing the production, storage and handling
of one particular refrigerated liquefied gas, LNG, at an
operating temperature of –265o F (-165o C).

The narrative in the Introduction & Chapter 1 is good, Hatfield, Meier, Hoptay, Berner, Douglas, DJ, Hoffmann,
but falls short when compared to the elevation Figures Alan Pawski, NKO, Howe, Hjorteset, Brannan, Jamel – 12
AA.1-7 to be merged into Chapter 7, Detailing. To add of 12
clarity to the figures to match the words in Chapter 7, it
is recommended that additional figures be added to
cover all listed methods for sealing the primary tank for Hatfield Comment.
liquid tightness at cryogenic temperature, or provide The comment is non –persuasive because it is not
footnotes on the existing figures to explain these applicable to this section. And the detailing Chapter 7
options. To be specific, we have listed: adequately covers the issues raised.
1. traditional full containment tanks with a primary 9%
Ni tank and outer concrete secondary containment Pawski comments.
structure where the 9% NI primary tank is not Fix typo highlighted: “bt” to “by”
Change “document” highlighted to “standard.”
dependent on the outer concrete wall for structural
integrity. The design of htis type of inner tank has been
previously covered by API620.
2. full containment tanks with a primary concrete tank
with various methods for obtaining liquid tightness and
outer concrete secondary containment to include the
primary concrete tank having:
ACI 376 / 376 R Last Update: 6 / 20 / 2008
INTRODUCTION & CHAPTER I – GENERAL
1st Ballot – 5/19 – 6/18/2008 &
Full Committee Houston Meeting on 6 / 19 – 20 / 2008
Page 2 of 15

“bt” should be “by”. Suggest running spell check on entire


Brannan Brannan agreed to change.
document to identify errors.
Refer to Word file for comments (I don’t have the WORD Pawski,
See above.
file) Rolf
(INTRODUCTION - paragraph 2) “However, the usefulness of these references to the used of Meier, Hoptay, Berner, Douglas, DJ, Hoffmann,
NFPA Standard 59A contains provisions for the use of NFPA 59A is somewhat limited by virtue of the fact that none of Hoptay, Pawski, NKO, Howe, Hjorteset, Brannan, Jamel – 12
reinforced concrete and prestressed concrete for two them provides guidelines specifically tailored to the use of Joseph of 12
principal applications: Impoundment (secondary concrete at cryogenic temperatures.”
containment in conjunction with a metallic primary “used” should be “use”
Delete “virtue of” Brannan
container) and storage (primary containment). The NFPA Standard 59A contains provisions for the use of
Delete “them” replace with “these references”
references cited by NFPA 59A for the use of reinforced reinforced concrete and prestressed concrete for two
concrete/prestressed concrete for these applications are ACI principal applications: Impoundment (secondary
318, ACI372R and ACI 373R. However, the usefulness of containment in conjunction with a metallic primary
these references to the used of NFPA 59A is somewhat container) and storage (primary containment). The
limited by virtue of the fact that none of them provides references cited by NFPA 59A for the use of
guidelines specifically tailored to the use of concrete at reinforced concrete/prestressed concrete for these
cryogenic temperatures. This limitation was the impetus applications are ACI 318, ACI372R and ACI 373R.
for the request by NFPA Committee 59A that ACI Change “references to the used of NFPA 59A” to Hjorteset, However, the usefulness of these references to the
undertake the preparation of a standard to address this “references to NFPA 59A” Kare used of NFPA 59A is somewhat limited by virtue of
particular need. the fact that none of them these references provide
provides guidelines specifically tailored to the use of
concrete at cryogenic temperatures. This limitation
was the impetus for the request by NFPA Committee
59A that ACI undertake the preparation of a standard
to address this particular need.

Meier, Hoptay, Berner, Douglas, DJ, Hoffmann,


Pawski, NKO, Howe, Hjorteset, Brannan, Jamel – 12
of 12
Include in the introduction references to where the Mash,
containment types are defined Keith
The comment is non –persuasive because the document is
adequate as is. .

(INTRODUCTION - paragraph 3)
While the NFPA request was related specifically to the
containment of LNG, it was decided that ACI Code and
Commentary address the use of concrete for other
refrigerated liquids as well, ranging in operating
temperatures from –20o F (-29o C) to –265o F (-165o C).

(INTRODUCTION - paragraph 4) Agree editorial.


This makes the code and commentary roughly analogous to This makes the code and commentary roughly
the American Petroleum Institute (API) Standard 620, “This makes the code and commentary roughly analogous to the
analogous to the American Petroleum Institute (API)
American Petroleum Institute (API) Standard 620, which governs Hoptay,
which governs the Design and Construction of Large, Standard 620, which governs the Design and
the Design and Construction of Large, Welded, Low Pressure Joseph
Welded, Low Pressure Storage Tanks. Storage Construction of Large, Welded, Low Pressure Storage
Tanks.

(INTRODUCTION - paragraph 5)
Agreed this is editorial change 11 of 11 committee
The most common use of reinforced concrete and
“The most common use of reinforced concrete and prestressed Hoptay, members.
prestressed concrete in cryogenic storage applications is for concrete in cryogenic storage applications is for secondary Joseph
ACI 376 / 376 R Last Update: 6 / 20 / 2008
INTRODUCTION & CHAPTER I – GENERAL
1st Ballot – 5/19 – 6/18/2008 &
Full Committee Houston Meeting on 6 / 19 – 20 / 2008
Page 3 of 15

secondary containment around metal primary storage tanks there are a number of installations, in North America and in Meier, Hoptay, Berner, Douglas, DJ, Hoffmann,
– although there are a number of installations, in North Europe, where prestressed concrete has been used for primary Pawski, NKO, Howe, Hjorteset, Brannan
America and in Europe, where prestressed concrete has containment that is with the tank contents with the concrete in Resolves Hoptay and Brannan comments.
direct contact with the concrete with the tank contents.”
been used for primary containment, that is with the concrete The most common use of reinforced concrete and
in direct contact with the tank contents. prestressed concrete in cryogenic storage applications
is for secondary containment around metal primary
storage tanks. – although there are a number of
installations, Installations were built in North
Add the following: America and in Europe during the 1960’s through
“Interest in concrete containment of RLG has increased due to 1980’s with prestressed concrete primary
the robust character of concrete structures, potential cost Brannan containment., where prestressed concrete has been
savings, potential schedule reduction, interest in sustainability, used for primary containment, that is with the concrete
use of local labor and use of local materials.” in direct contact with the tank contents. Renewed
interest in the use of concrete for primary containment
and the need for a code that addressed secondary
concrete containment has led to the development of
this Code.

CHAPTER 1 – GENERAL
1.0 – Scope The first paragraph refers to containment which typically implies
secondary containment and not storage. Suggest revising:

This Standard provides the minimum requirements This Standard provides the minimum requirements for the design and
for the design and construction of concrete and construction of concrete and prestressed concrete structures for the
Hoptay,
prestressed concrete structures for the containment storage and containment of refrigerated liquefied gases (RLG) with
service temperatures between -200 F (-200 C) and -2680 F (-1650 C). Joseph
of refrigerated liquefied gases (RLG) with service
temperatures between -200 F (-200 C) and -2680 F (-
The Container design shall include the design of the primary and
1650 C).
secondary container walls, its foundation (footing and floor slab), and the
concrete portions of its roof, whenever applicable.
Container design shall include the design of the
container wall, its foundation (footing and floor slab), Should be (-290 C) and -2700 F (-1680 C).
and the concrete portions of its roof, whenever
This temperature range will go down to LNG but not
applicable. Brannan
nitrogen -3210 F or oxygen -2980 F. Should we consider
the other gases with lower liquid temperatures?

Change “-200F (-200C) and -2680F (-1650C)” to “-200F Hjorteset,


(-290C) and -2650F (-1650C)” Kare
Hoff,
There is no Chapter 1 information included in this ballot.
George
(R1.0 - paragraph 1)
R1.0 – Scope – Typically, concrete and prestresssed concrete
structures(i) for the containment of refrigerated liquefied gases
(RLG) are classified into two main categories:
a) Secondary containment, which represents the most
widespread use of such structures; and
b) Primary containment.

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