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Hare Krishna muni raj science of yoga to the sun- that process is that Krishna

god, Vivasvān, and Vivasvān originally spoke Bhagavad


This is an important email. instructed it to Manu, the Gita at the beginning of time
Maybe little longer than father of mankind, and Manu as we know it, at the creation
usual, but I would be most in turn instructed it to of the universe the the sun
grateful if you can take the Ikṣvāku. (Bhagavad Gita 4.1) god, Vivasvan. Vivasvan, by
time to read it and post your our calculation is very, very
questions and comments at: This supreme science was old. We can not even imagine
thus received through the the age of the
sun god. This is
an unbelievable
Spiritual  knowledge amount of time. 
Vivasvan, the sun
descendsthrough the
god then
disciplic succession from instructed the
science of
Krishna. The representa Bhagavad Gita to
his sons and
tives of the disciplic succe
disciples.
ssion can not change
So Vivasvan
anything, add anything or heard the
Bhagavad Gita
subtract anything. Othe
from Krishna and
rwise the disciplic succe then Vivasvan
spoke the same
ssion will be broken and Bhagavad Gita to
their preaching will have
his son Manu,
the father of
no potency. Many times mankind and
Manu in turn
in the history this disciplic
instructed it to
succession has been Iksvaku. This is
the history of
broken because the Bhagavad Gita.
representatives of the
Originally Krishna
spoke Bhagavad
disciplic Gita to Vivasvan
the sun god, and
succession did not correctly
that was such a
pass on the knowledge to long time ago
that we cannot
their students. even imagine.
Vivasvan then
spoke the
chain of disciplic succession,
Bhagavad Gita to his son
and the saintly kings
We can understand how Manu who is the father of
understood it in that way. But
perfect knowledge can be mankind and then in turn
in course of time the
received. This information is Manu spoke that same
succession was broken, and
given to us by Krishna, the Bhagavad Gita to Iksvaku who
therefore the science as it is
Supreme Personality of 2,500,000 years ago was the
appears to be lost. (Bhagavad Gita
Godhead, in the Bhagavad king of this earth planet.
4.2)
Gita, particularly in Chapter 4
We can understand then that
Texts 1 and 2. These two verses describe the
Bhagavad Gita has been
process by which this
The Blessed Lord said: I present in human society for
knowledge of Bhagavad Gita
instructed this imperishable at least 2,500,000 years from
has come into our hands and
the time when Manu present his own opinion or to life will be thinking that "I am
instructed it to his son Iksvaku add anything new or to the body" and that "I have
who was then the king of this subtract anything that was some very important ideas" 
whole planet. Unfortunately originally in the message as it and "My ideas are very
after some time the was presented by Krishna to valuable." So  instead of
knowledge of Bhagavad Gita the sun god Vivasvan , as simply humbly hearing the
became lost. This is the nature Vivasvan presented that same message of Bhagavad Gita
of the material world. message to his son Manu, and from his bona fide spiritual
Everything we find in this as Manu presented that same master and simply humbly
material world goes through message to his son Iksvaku. repeating that same message,
different stages. It is created, That was 2,500,000 years ago the same message that's been
it exists for some time, it and that was when this handed down through the
produces some by-products, it Bhagavad Gita entered into disciplic succession since
dwindles and then it vanishes. the human society through before the beginning of time,
This is the power of time, time this king, Maharaja Iksvaku, he will want to put his own
is very, very powerful and who was at that time the king twist on the message, give it
time wears away everyting. of the whole planet. his own spin,  and as soon as
we add any of our own ideas,
Even if some very perfect Therefore, the actual any of our own opinions, no
spiritual knowledge is qualification of a real spiritual matter how nice or how
established at some point in master is that he simply wonderful we think they are,
time then, because of the presents perfectly the into the message of Bhagavad
destructive nature of time, in knowledge that has been Gita, we have broken the
time this knowledge will be given to him by his bona fide disciplic succession, we have
misunderstood, it will be spiritual master to the people broken the param para. What
misrepresented by the various who come to hear from him. we are speaking is no longer
generations. He does not introduce any of representative of the disciplic
his own opinions, he doesn't succession, no longer
This knowledge of Krishna add any new information and representative of the param
consciousness that Krishna he does not subtract anything para. The transcendental
has given us in the Bhagavad which was there in the knowledge will not flow
Gita is very delicate original message as it was through us.
knowledge. This knowledge is distributed by Krishna.
only potent, it only acts if it is This is a very mystical thing,
received in the pure disciplic Although this appears to be a the Bhagavad Gita, and the
succession and that disciplic very simple thing to do, a very knowledge we find inside the
succession can be very easily simple process, it goes against Bhagavad Gita, and how one
broken. This means that the the very nature of our comes to understand the
preachers of Bhagavad Gita conditioned life in the Bhagavad Gita. These are not
have an incredibly great material world. In the simply words printed on
responsibility. As soon as we conditioned state in the paper that one can
speak anything, supposedly material world we are understand through
on Bhagavad Gita which is thinking that, "I am very scholarship, by simply
not simply knowledge that we important," and that "My studying the words, studying
have heard in the disciplic ideas, my opinion is very the language. Understanding
succession then we have valuable." We are thinking of Bhagavad Gita is not
broken the disciplic like this, in the conditioned possible in that way. The
succession. state of life. This mentality understanding comes from
makes it almost impossible hearing the words of a pure
The responsibility of the for someone who is in the devotee in the disciplic
reciter of the Bhagavad Gita conditioned state of life, succession, someone who is
is to hear the perfect someone who is not a not adding his own opinion.
knowledge from his bona fide liberated soul, to speak on the
spiritual master and simply to Bhagavad Gita. Actually "pure devotee" is not
repeat that knowledge to the a very difficult thing, not a
people he is speaking to. He The problem is one who is in very complicated thing, in one
has no authorization to the materialistic concept of sense, it simply means
someone who follows the parcel, and he delivers the place. Everywhere, all over
principles which are set out in million dollar diamond. the world at the present time,
the Bhagavad Gita. The pure there are big, big wars going
devotee is very humble and So, similarly, the business of on, there's fighting
he thinks "My opinion is the spiritual master is like everywhere, there's
worthless," "My knowledge is that. The business of the terrorism. You can not walk
worthless," "I am nothing," spiritual master is that he on the street. If you go
All I can do is I have heard this takes the messages that have outside your house there is
knowledge from my spiritual been given to him by his bona the very real fear that there
master and I am simply going fide spiritual master and will be some criminal who will
to deliver it to whoever I whoever comes to him, he give you trouble, steal your
meet, I will simply speak the simply delivers that same money. So many disturbing
same thing that I have heard message. Actually anyone can activities are going on, people
from Srila Prabhupada. In that do this. It requires humility are simply afraid, they're
way, because we are simply and submission and it always full of fear.
repeating the message, then requires surrender. It is a very
the message will be powerful. simple thing, actually, but we So what's happened? All
It is the message that is have to come to this point of these big, big scientists and
powerful, it is not us that are surrender and humility, and philosophers have been
powerful. So we have to this point of actually realizing speculating and coming up
become simply carriers of the that my mental speculation, with so many ideas and they
message. my intellect, my knowledge, are sincerely thinking that
my ideas, they're all useless, these ideas will help the
Srila Prabhupada often gives a they're all faulty. people to become "happy,"
very nice example in regard to that they will help the world
the postman. The This can be a very difficult to become better organized. 
responsibility of the postman thing to come to realize So what is the outcome of all
is he will take the letter with because we are so attached to this mental speculation? The
some person's address on it our mental speculation, to the outcome is that the people
and he will simply take that whole process.  The whole are more unhappy, more
letter and deliver it to that world,  the "scientific distressed, more anxious than
person. When he does this he method," is built on this ever before.
has performed his duty very mental speculation. The
nicely. The postman may not whole idea which is Bringing this back to the
be a very qualified person and underlying the world which disciplic succession. The
the letter may contain some we live in, the material world, reason I am giving this
very valuable thing. The is  that by this process of example of the results of the
postman may be a poor man, mental speculation we can modern scientific and
but the letter or parcel may advance the knowledge of philosophical mental
contain some very valuable mankind, that we can create a speculation is even though
thing.  The parcel may contain better world, that we can the scientists and
a beautiful diamond ring advance. This is the whole philosophers who have come
worth millions of dollars. The background of the material up with the technology and
postman is a poor man, his world--but it's false. the philosophy which
responsibility, his duty, is to underpins the way the current
simply take that parcel and If you carefully study the materialistic world is running
deliver it to the person who's results of all this mental were very sincerely working
address is written on the speculation and scientific and were thinking that "My
parcel. If he does that then advancement that we see in ideas and my scientific
the person gets that million the world you will find that advancements will help the
dollar diamond. So even people are not any more people to become happy," or
though the postman himself is happy than they were 1,000 "My philosophical ideas or my
not a millionaire, he simply years ago or 100 years ago. In political ideas will created a
accepts that this is my duty, fact the people are much governmental system in
my duty is to take this parcel more distressed now and full which people will be very
and to deliver it to the person of anxieties and the world has happy..." They were sincerely
who's name is written on the become a very dangerous trying for very noble goals
from the materialistic point of Prabhhupada, and we need to understood it in that way. But
view but the outcome has accept what he is presenting in course of time the
been the opposite. The and follow it in our lives and succession was broken, and
outcome has been very bad. then repeat it to others, therefore the science as it is
Instead of creating happiness simply present the same appears to be lost." (Bhagavad Gita
for the people they have message and that will be 4.2)

created great distress and powerful.


great misery. But they did not So this is why Krishna
intend to do this, they This disciplic succession is appears. He appears because
intended to make the world a such an essential point and it that knowledge which He
better place. is so easy for the disciplic originally spoke and which
succession to become broken. was passed down through the
We have been trained in We see throughout the saintly kings in the disciplic
mental speculation from history that the disciplic succession had become lost.
birth. We have been trained succession is often being So there is periodically a
to think that there is some broken. In the beginning of necessity for Krishna to come
value in our ideas, there is time Krishna spoke the himself as an incarnation or
some value in our opinion and Bhagavad Gita to the sun god for Krishna to send His
that we have some capacity Vivasvan, Vivasvan instructed empowered representative,
with our own strength, with it to his son Manu, Manu his pure devotee, to re-
our own mind, to come up instructed it to his son Iksvaku establish the principles of
with brilliant ideas that will and Iksvaku was the king of religion in the material world.
solve the problems of the the earth planet 2,500,000 This is because, as we have
world and make the people years ago. For some time this been speaking, even if the
happy. But this is not the way, knowledge was being passed pure religious principles are
this will never be successful, down through the saintly established, they will be lost
our ideas born of mental kings. Maharaja Iksvaku in the course of time.
speculation will not help taught the Bhagavad Gita to
anyone. It is only Krishna's his sons who in turn became This happens again and again
ideas, Krishna's opinion that kings and would teach the and again. It happened before
will help. And the only way same Bhagavad Gita to their the advent of Lord Sri
we can find out what are sons. But after some time, Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Sri
Krishna's ideas and what is His even though the Bhagavad Caitanya Mahaprabhu
opinion is to hear from a pure Gita was still there, people appeared in West Bengal in
devotee of Krishna in the were still speaking on the India, and Caitanya
bona fide disciplic succession. Bhagavad Gita, however the Mahaprabhu is Krishna
actual knowledge, the Himself personally. Also at
If we are going to become essence of the message of the that time, 500 years ago, the
Krishna conscious or if we are Bhagavad Gita was lost. message of the Bhagavad
going to become able to Gita, the param para, the
present this knowledge to Five thousand years ago knowledge of the Bhagavad
others, if we're going to Krishna detected that the Gita had been lost so Krishna
become empowered by message of the Bhagavad again appeared in the form of
Krishna to preach we have to Gita had become completely Lord Sri Caitanya
completely give up this idea lost and therefore there was a Mahaprabhu. And Caitanya
that I can do anything need for Him to appear as Mahaprabhu taught the
valuable on my own strength. Krishna to speak the teachings of Bhagavad Gita,
We cannot come up with any Bhagavad Gita again to His the teachings of Krishna in the
valuable ideas ourselves. We friend and disciple, Arjuna. mood of a devotee of Krishna.
cannot come up with anything This is the reason Krishna So the teachings of Lord
worthwhile. appeared within the material Caitanya and the teachings of
world. Lord Krishna are the same
First we must hear from because Lord Caitanya is
Krishna and we must hear "This supreme science was Krishna, the same Krishna.
from the bona fide spiritual thus received through the
master in disciplic succession, chain of disciplic succession, It did not take very long after
we must hear from Srila and the saintly kings Lord Caitanya re-established
the disciplic succession, the Bhaktivinoda Thakura who books of Rupa Goswami,
pure param para,  that the was preaching in the late Sanatana Goswami and Jiva
Bhagavad Gita was again not 1800's. In 1896 Srila Goswami. Srila Bhaktivinoda
being understood correctly. Bhaktivinoda Thakura sent his Thakur studied these books
Not so long after Lord booklet, Sri Caitanya and from these literatures of
Caitanya Mahaprabhu left this Mahaprabhu--His life and the previous acharyas he was
planet some of His disciples Precepts, all over the world to able to establish the pure
also deviated from His pure different Universities. It was teachings of Krishna.
teachings and schisms found by one of Srila
developed and there were Prabhupada's disciples in the The preacing of Srila
different groups of followers McGill  university in Canada. Bhaktivinoda Thakur was not
of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu So we can see from this that so expansive as he was living
who started to have different even in 1896 Srila in Jagannath Puri and acting
opinions. However in spiritual Bhaktivinoda Thakur had this as the magistrate in the court
life there are no different dream to preach Krishna system in Jagannatha Puri,
opinions, there is only one consciousness all over the and he was in charge of the
opinion and that's the opinion world. temple of Jagannath. So he
of Krishna. As soon as we see was not able to preach very
devotees with different But the point of Bhaktivinoda widely all over the world or
opinions we can understand Thakur is that at his time, in even all over India, but he had
either one of them or both of the late 1800's, the whole the idea to do this. His dream
them have lost the param message of Bhagavad Gita was that this message of Lord
para or broken the disciplic was completely lost. Krishna, Caitanya would be spread all
succession. as Lord Sri Caitanya over the world. So he prayed
Mahaprabhu, appeared in to Krishna for a son who
There can not be different 1486 and He established the would be empoured to preach
opinions in understanding the pure knowledge of Bhagavad the pure message of Krishna
Bhagavad Gita. There is only Gita and in the early 1500's consciousness, the Bhagavad
one opinion. Krishna's opinion Lord Caitanya flooded the Gita in the bona fide disciplic
only. So we have to find the subcontinent of India with His succession, all over the world.
pure representative who is message of Love of God. He So Bhaktivinoda Thakur did
actually empowered to established the clear have a son, and that son was
present Krishna's opinion. understanding of Bhagavad Srila Bhaktsiddhanta Sarasvati
This is valuable. Krishna's Gita. Thakur, and Srila
opinion is very valuable but Bhaktsiddhanta Sarasvati
our opinion or anyone else's However by the late 1800's, Thakur took on this great
opinion is completely useless. maybe 450 years later, there mission of very powerfully
This is actually the key to was no hint of the pure preaching the pure message
understanding and advancing teachings of Lord Sri Caitanya of the Bhagavad Gita all over
in spiritual life: that Krishna's Mahaprabhu or the pure India.
opinion is valuable and teachings of Krishna and the
everbody else's opinion is message of the Bhagavad Srila Bhaktsiddhanta was
completely useless, worthless. Gita had been completely lost always requesting any of  his
This is the beginning. again. The disciplic succession, disciples who were a little
the param para was intelligent and knew the
We have to give up this idea completely broken. English language to preach
that "My opinion has some Krishna consciousness in the
value." The way the disciplic West. He would instruct them
succession was re-established that "You should take this
So we see that even a few was through Srila Krishna consciousness very
years after Lord Caitanya Bhaktivinoda Thakura's seriously and you should
Mahaprabhu disapeared studies of the writings of the preach this message of Lord
some of his disciples started Vaisnava Acharyas, Caitanya in the Western
quarreling and different particularaly the Six Gosvamis countries in English." So Srila
factions of disciples appeared of Vrindavana, the direct Prabhupada was one of many
presenting different opinions. disciples of Lord Sri Caitanya disciples who Srila
By the time of Srila Mahaprabhu, principally the Bhaktsiddhanta gave this
instruction to but Srila power of the disciplic
Prabhuapda was the one succession we will become
disciple who actually took it instruments in the hands of
very seriously and made that Krishna.
the mission of his life.

So we see because Srila


Prabhuapda made the order
of his spiritual master, Srila
Bhaktsiddhanta Sarasvati
Thakur, the mission of his life,
and he worked very hard to
establish the Krishna
consciousness movement
based on the pure philosophy
of Lord Sri Caitanya
Mahaprabhu in the Western
countries, so he was very
successful.

Srila Prabhupada's success


was that he simply repeated
the message he received from
Srila Bhaktsiddhanta Sarasvati
Thakur, his bona fide spiritual
master in the disciplic
succession. So this grand
success of Srila Prabhupada's
preaching is a testament to
the power of the disciplic
succession.

We can also become


empowered to preach, but
only if we actually realize that
my opinion, my ideas, my
intellect, has no value. The
only value is Krishna's
opinion, Krishna's ideas. So
we must get Krishna's opinion
and Krishna's ideas through
the bona fide pure devotee in
the disciplic succession,
param para. And we have to
humbly simply present that
knowledge to anyone we
meet, like the postman simply
takes the parcel and delivers
it to the person whose name
is on it. This is his duty.

So we simply have to hear the


pure messages which are
coming from Krishna through
the disciplic succession and
repeat them to everybody we
meet. In this way, through the

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