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1 of the County and thereafter without any necessary delay bring him before the

2 said Court and witness, whereof I the Judge of said Court subscribed my name,

3 August 19th, 2020, Timothy P. Spahr, Judge Miami Circuit Court, witness of the

4 Clerk, seal of said Court this 19th day of August, 2020, Sherry Raber, Clerk. If I

5 can have that copy here. So obviously you know why you're here with this, umm

6 I do want to make it, make it clear that we have uh watched the previous

7 interviews when this had come up in the past. Right.


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8 A: Oh so this is, okay.

9 Q: Okay? So, we watched that.


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11 Q: We understand what's going on -

12 A: Right.
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13 Q: - you understand what's going on now, umm obviously you have a problem.

14 A: All the, are you talking about all the stuff that was on those old phones is that

15 what this is about?


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16 Q: The phones, um hum.

17 A: So like I told that, I can't remember her name, she was like the I don't know
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18 something with the child division umm all those are old videos, when I was

I9 underage.

20 Q: Well and, and I want to ma- and I want to make it clear too that we not only have

21 watched your interviews -

22 A: Right.

23 Q: - but we've personally gone through each device -

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on uh, is your Kik chat 92, umm this was on your !Phone, uh when you're trading

2 back and forth

3 A: Right.

4 Q: - child porn images, that's exploitation of a child.

5 A: Okay and obstruction ofjustice, umm -?

6 Q: And we're, we're going to get to all that. Okay but I need you to understand why -

7 A: Right, yeah.
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8 Q: - we're here obviously.

9 A: Yeah.
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10 Q: And, and I'm just being honest with you I mean, the underage thing it's
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11 A: Right -

12 Q: - not correct.
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13 A: - right.

14 Q: Okay? Umm three years ago you were not underage.

15 A: Right.
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16 Q: And you were in possession of all that as well.

17 A: Right.
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18 Q: So I know even in your last interview, I mean you have a problem.

19 A: Right.

20 Q: And you said it yourself.

21 A: Yeah.

22 Q: And, and I'm assuming you know problem like that does not just overnight,

23 correct itself?

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