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(Q&A) 2022 SAP IBP Best Practices For IBP 2205 - Real-Time Integration
(Q&A) 2022 SAP IBP Best Practices For IBP 2205 - Real-Time Integration
(Q&A) 2022 SAP IBP Best Practices For IBP 2205 - Real-Time Integration
Live Webcast
SAP Best Practices for SAP IBP 2205:
Real-Time Integration – April 28, 2022
Live Q&A Report
6 How long this SDI will be supported? When are recommending customer to
start the migration from SDI to RTI?
1) Go Live in April 2023: My personal recommendation is to start with RTI directly,
because several further developments will only be done with RTI integration such as
shelf live planning (as first step of characteristic based planning). Unless you have
some strong requirements where we do not yet have parity with SDI, which would be
a case-by-case decision. If you would want to go life in the ext. couple of months, you
might stick with SDI 2) At the moment, there is no sunset date fixed for SDI yet.
7 I heard in future if IBP systems are beyond 6TB, we could use HANA elasticity,
however is that for temp growths beyond 6TB? or for permanent? Is RTI
required mandatory for HANA elasticity?
This webinar concentrates on best practice for RTI. Unfortunately, we do not have
the specialists in this Q&A to answer this question. Please contact your SAP contact
for this question.
11 Can SAP7F also be used without RTI by fetching the data e.g., from csv Files?
Not yet, however this is planned on the roadmap.
12 Is there a list of what changes to the RTI BADI's would be made in each future
release?
The online help provides the BADIs you can use with RTI, but to my knowledge there
is no direct comparison between the SDI and the RTI BADIs (we are currently
discussing to provide that info in some way for an easier transition, but no promises
on a date) The fixed Custom attributes that we currently have with SDI will NOT be
supported in SAP7F. But with the next release 2205 we will provide an extensibility
concept that you can enhance your master data types with additional attributes by
RTI. Those extended fields will then be available in the planning run profile (currently
planned for 2208). And next step are additional fields attached to order data, please
check the roadmap explorer for the dates as I don’t have them in my head right now.
16 Can real time integration to IBP possible from non SAP ERP system too?
With the current release, you will not be able to connect to non-SAP ERP systems.
But it is a roadmap item that SAP will develop an API to integrate to other systems as
well to the flexible planning area.
20 Is it planned for later releases to support the migration from SAP7 to SAP7F?
To my knowledge there are no plans yet.
22 Will control tower be enabled for Order based Planning, what options are there
currently to use similar features that are available in control tower for order-
based planning
With SAP7F being a planning area, you can use this a base or your charts and
analytics, and with that using control tower features.
23 Will the Webcast also cover BTP and Cloud Connector setup?
Yes, please stay tuned.
26 Transport resource setup where is done? The option that we had PA - SAP7 is
not in SAP7F
You can load e.g., via CSV file. There is an example in our best practices content for
it. The data load goes into MDT type RESOURCE. You can also check online help:
https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_INTEGRATED_BUSINESS_PLANNING/343592b0
29c94595896e51477ca08505/84072efbe4a74efbb40c7e42f0b64a8f.html?q=tran
sport%20resource
27 Could you please let us know process to delete MD in OBP with Flexible
Master data?
When you have a material that gets a deletion flag, that deletion flag is send over to
IBP. Ad if no depending data exist anymore, the material will be deleted. Job purge
non-conforming data should delete the MD from the MD types, if I recall it right. But
the online help describes the housekeeping in a separate chapter, please check there
for further details, as this cannot be described in a simple Q&A.
28 Could you provide the SAP note to setup RTI with S4 HANA 1909?
With S4 2020, RTI will be supported. There are many other ECC and S/4 releases
that allow to connect to IBP OBP using RTI. See OSS Note 3106619.
29 Why the Supply Chain Network is not available on SAP7F? What could be a
work around?
Sorry we do not have specialists on that topic in this webinar. But I remember when I
last checked in 2111 release, the network charts had not been available. Please raise
a customer influence request on this (if it does not yet exist) Sorry I cannot provide a
better reply today. if that is not sufficient, please feel free to contact us offline of this
webinar.
30 There are custom attributes in location and product, location product level.
How can we see those attributes on screen?
You cannot use the custom Attributes 1 - 10 anymore with SAP7F. But with release
2202 we will provide enhancement concept. I described this in one of the earlier
questions already. Plus, there as a webinar o what’s new in integration 2205 this or
last week, please see there for details on the enhancements.
34 What pre-requisite license a customer need to purchase for using RTI? i.e.
cloud connector or BTP?
BTP subscription is required.
36 Could you provide the details on process to Delete flexible Master data using
RTI?
That answer was already in the chat and answered, please check the other
questions.
39 If customer has OBP license and S/4 system what other license is required?
You also need BTP subscription, but if you have already BTP account that can be
used. Check here in the Q/A:
https://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/SCM/FAQs%3A+SAP+IBP+Real-
Time+Integration+and+Transition+from+SDI#FAQs:SAPIBPRealTimeIntegrationan
dTransitionfromSDI-
1.28.Questionsrelatedtomiddleware,CloudConnector,installationandlicenserequirem
ents
40 Integration seems similar to what used for APO (CIF), does it have all same
features / basis as used to be there in APO for filter enhancements
It is indeed reusing a lot of CIF functionality. We have similar BADI's, but they are not
identical
41 How is the stock loading done as part of the inbound integration through RTI?
You can select stock during the configuration of the integration model for
transactional data. You may check out our best practices test script 2S4 to see an
example.
44 We have noticed in IBP 2202 that sometimes we need to run initial transfer
(after activating integration model in CFM2) to reflect master data in IBP. Is it
expected or any settings issue maybe?
That depends on the object types you want to transfer. TLanes and PDS have some
specialties, that are described in the online help.
46 Why is this called real time integration, when u have to manually schedule jobs
to send data from IBP to S4
Real-time integration for the outbound direction (IBP to S4) is planned on the
roadmap, but not yet available.
47 So basically, no real time integration from IBP back to ECC similar to APO.
You have to run a job every time to transfer any planned orders created in IBP
back to ECC?
Yes, correct. Real-time integration for outbound is currently planned but not yet
available.
48 If we have to run Real Time Integration Outbound job in IBP, the integration is
not truly real-time it is only updated when the job is run. Why call it real-time
when it’s more like a periodic update?
Outbound direction from IBP to S4 is not yet real-time, only inbound from S4 to IBP.
This is planned on the roadmap.
49 Do you have to manually schedule these jobs for integration between IBP to
S4 for integration of orders created in IBP to show up in s4
If I understand you correct, you are asking for the outbound integration jobs? Yes
they have to be scheduled.
50 What are the steps to purge transactional data on IBP side with RTI?
If you have not yet integrated anything with RTI, you can just use the same purge
jobs than for time series-based planning areas. once you have loaded data via RTI,
depending on the reason, other steps apply. For that purpose, we have created a
document for which you find the link in OSS note 3110007 - IBP Real-time
Integration: Information/Restrictions
53 RTI is used only to order base? Or can be used for time series? Will it replace
CPI-DS AND SDI or can work together?
RTI is indeed only integrating order data. For time series based key figures you can
use CI-DS as you might be used from pure time-series based planning areas.
54 I have APO installed with CFI, which is the advantage to implement IBP with
RTI?
RTI is similar then CIF. "Advantage" is the wrong wording. If you work with APO, you
need VIF. if you work with IBP, you need RTI. Both can exist at the same time.
55 If S/4 HANA is on cloud and not on premise, does it still need cloud connector
and BTP connectivity services?
RTI is not supported with S/4 Cloud yet.
56 Will this integrate with SAP ECC?
Yes. Please check OSS note 3106619 - SAP IBP Real-time integration - Notes for
installation for prerequisites.
58 CI-DS Agent, SDI and RTI can all exist next to each other in one and the same
ECC or S?4 System, correct?
Technically yes. RTI does not require any agent, nor the IBP Add-on. Very likely you
will use CI-DS for certain enhancements or data that are not orders. SDI should not
run in parallel unless you separate very carefully the source systems. And you
anyhow need different planning areas (SDI = SAP7, RTI = SAP7F).
59 If we add for example a new planning object what are the steps to do to have a
consistent data?
Check online help please, cannot be answered in a simple chat:
https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_INTEGRATED_BUSINESS_PLANNING/343592b0
29c94595896e51477ca08505/8e0603f97ffe43ddaff1db634e55b951.html?locale=e
n-US and housekeeping:
https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_INTEGRATED_BUSINESS_PLANNING/68fa1e86f
e6f41d98421d1ce13a08a9f/7af528240c864862a16f803841117efd.html?locale=en-
US&q=housekeeping
61 How does live cache in PPDS integrate with IBP and RTI?
Please also check out the previous webinars related to the topic of "Synchronized
Planning". There you will find more info around PPDS integration.
62 We have OBP specific jobs for SDI and RTI. How we can find them because in
the job is not specified RTI or SDI?
Check
https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_INTEGRATED_BUSINESS_PLANNING/343592b0
29c94595896e51477ca08505/8e0603f97ffe43ddaff1db634e55b951.html?locale=e
n-US&q=housekeeping for generating planning objects for RTI.
63 How do we change the port 33XX to 48XX in the cloud connector to activate
SNC in the RFC from the ERP?
This webinar is on best practice, but we do not have all technical specialists in this
chat support to answer all detailed questions, sorry. Please contact your SAP project
contact for that question.
64 Can we have the supported jobs that can be used by RTI - SAP7F?
In general, you can say, that all planning relevant jobs such as Supply run are the
same jobs. All regarding data integrating are different and described in online help.
For housekeeping, there is a special chapter here:
https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_INTEGRATED_BUSINESS_PLANNING/68fa1e86f
e6f41d98421d1ce13a08a9f/7af528240c864862a16f803841117efd.html?locale=en-
US&q=housekeeping
66 Can we integrate one ERP data to single IBP system but for 2 different
Planning area? How will it affect inbound and outbound?
Yes, you can. you need to have disjunct data, such as different locations. And you
need to maintain two RTI integration profiles and need two IBP logical systems in
ECC, but only one set of communication arrangements/systems. please check
online help:
https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_INTEGRATED_BUSINESS_PLANNING/343592b0
29c94595896e51477ca08505/c7fb56f14d35433cbe530600e293e1e6.html?versio
n=2202
67 Is RTI used only for Order based planning What happens for Timeseries based
planning?
Yes, RTI is only for order-based planning. Time series planning stays as is.
69 SAP invented CIF for APO, with PP/DS into S/4 the CIF was simplified. Now
with RTI CIF logic is back on new communication platform for cloud. Could we
expect the same logic and challenges with delta reports and other principles
to make stable communication and data replication?
We do have functionality for reconciliation available, specific app in IBP.
70 In continuation with for RTI do we need the integration model staging tables
/ibp/*ext - they will be marked obsolete. However, in case of timeseries, we
will still need these staging tables as we will continue using CPIDS, right?
Yes correct, for time series they are still relevant.
71 Can we know this? We will show during the webinar how to maintain loc-mat
information with RTI?
I don’t understand the question, can you please rephrase? Please check our test
script 2S4 for a detailed step-by-step description. There you will find the details.
72 Do we still need the IBP Add on for ECC to work with RTI?
No add-On is needed for RTI. But you still have minimum requirements on you
backend ECC or S/4HANA which you will find in OSS note 3106619 - SAP IBP Real-
time integration - Notes for installation.
73 Can one S4 system be connected to multiple IBP planning areas using RTI? If
yes, then what is setting required at S4 and IBP?
Yes, you can. OSS note 3110007 - IBP Real-time Integration:
Information/Restrictions provides several links. One is describing how to set up the
communication settings with Cloud connector, BTP and ECC or S4/HANA settings,
the other provides a checklist which will be updated in the next couple of days with
the information of which steps need to be duplicated when working with >1 planning
area. E.g., you need one RTI integration profile per planning area and one logical IBP
system (SM59) in ECC, but only one common set of communication arrangements.
But make sure you have disjunct data sets, e.g., by separating the locations or
materials, as otherwise the back integration IBP -> ECC will create problems.
74 Do we need BTP license for set up of RTI through cloud connector? if yes, is it
provided along with IBP/RTI license?
Yes, a BTP license is needed. New IBP contracts already contain BTP Pay-as-you-Go
License - if the customer doesn't own already a BTP license.
76 When we integrate UoM and Currencies to IBP using RTI, is there any way we
can check in IBP what all currencies and UoM integrated in IBP?
You could use the "Manage Master Data" app to check for the MDT PRODUCTUNIT
to see what was integrated for the UoM. Currencies at the moment can only be seen
in the apps, e.g., you see the value of a sales order in view confirmations app, but not
in MD types. Reason is that they are not integrated to MD types but as the same
tables such as TCURR you have in S/4.
79 Just as a summary, does it still hold that you absolutely need Smart Data
Integration to integrate order data to SAP IBP? Or can we also use other
methods such as CPI-DS; or Fiori; RTI?
If you use flexible master data type planning area SAP7F, then use RTI for the
integration. If you use "external" planning area SAP7, it needs SDI for the integration.
They way forward are the flexible master data type planning area (SAP7F) and RTI.
Online help provides a high-level comparison on the two methods:
https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_INTEGRATED_BUSINESS_PLANNING/feae3cea3
cc549aaa9d9de7d363a83e6/f8f50b56c182792de10000000a44538d.html?locale=
en-US
80 Is it possible that an IBP client has access to SAP BTP-CPI, without having
access to/license for CPI-DS?
The IBP application subscription includes SAP Cloud Integration for data services
(CI-DS).