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    16 Aueust 19 What history is not biatedy snow oa historian, seal iecorian who is not biaseal... wiseory ie never objective.” 4 he at ne Ta Teodor A. Ago alive sas an Desaber 14, 1984. ‘nar arc cll no stro war eh. da nt remember nw what Ae me fom conning the rcrded monthly conerations we began gt 1984 On our a meting bough copie fal books to be eograped His anor soa eile ht day. Agonll aghed and ed regi my ok a thigh oe aus oral ht enmarahip mas shay and ie 0 rend lowing astra he had ured one ers ater Ye seas he mrt trordinay thing hat happened that da. Aer ring my books Agee leet a maltipof pape tyng, "Maga nL tranny banister, Inada ete paras” tha ben two month nce my ast vi and wat shock hate handed me atopowniten aap of i eptaph wich had ben nating me ince 9 Noverer 1984 the date he rbd on did Kw howto rec rad Agile filed ‘thence wth dete naruto ot ifr arrangements rnin iwi bout seins acount he had ined fr abled on Todor Ago, hg wt hwnd ats ales he boar ee ‘nara box with a bronze plaque engraved with: his nave, his date of birth, ee f death and an epitaph he composed that rea “a Buon lave ang nai pari, ‘Atengkalengen ng g rating; Ng gna nino ag Kahane Sondalatae ong di paige ‘Febrnary 16, 1983 that reads: Joke ae serbyas rae rat moat of thee were not followed. He was cremated after a wake. 1 8s ing eT Peeencrirem nets totter ee sme ers ins Wray, his remain ave since been tered ie the erp og LY ‘gata dec in tanacoe “4 8 sie din nth fit cred conerston wht ta spe is bk Appa sdf plas In rep the ting ste chad with ne ws roby his ay of alan to the future He mage ct weiner ne ed neha ae et ‘in persom and know af hit only through his books. * ‘hep dnt Beso of ag 15 1988 wre satis tanec geno cbs ne apo hee ila sphere teppei pets aed le fal a pam ns pcg he clin gear cere acre aco ge ‘tga por Deda anny an voury Ona ree ‘tte tere Goes B30 oS CC VO TAPELSIBEA Antu R Ocampo ARO), Sinai nga ss akin [na] gusto ra (ninyong) agpaceemate? “Todo A Awl (EAA: My philosophy thers, fia philosophy ae al edhe man is such a mall ding he acounes fr nothing Yang yang natin na kaa natin na» Not You are nothing ike the sch har you are, ‘whacabour the sings you leave behind? ala yun compated ro nature kawan We cannos conguet race, Tinga mo kapag magkaroon natal lay ya ‘Ano ang karunungan tot Nasean ang barusumgan ma sop his ‘alam? Tingnan mo 38 US Kapgnagkaroon ng. Tormdo? Tomnad! Paty! Nasa ang kun ninyo? ughs) Tagalog re (refecing to the inscription TMA lee wih he Hisrrial aure for the nara bo tha would contain hs ashe) “Taglog Iniwan ko oon, Asa nlagay ko room io {insripson), dalgay sa Laon, Kinaba kona prepare, ano ha Aya sbi su akin Kung stan ako malkapagpapagawa ng nares box na pafalagyan ng aking abe. "Tka ko, gegawa ng Intonze plaque tapos lay doon ang pangalan ko, pos yung dace of bith and dace of death, capo deo yung pocr, ‘Baka naman mahaba yng poet? Hind, one tans [lang Four lnes lange The gs i that man i hothing and chat I red co reach the sky and look whar happen Haught [Netbiyoo nga si [Ealogio} Leaso (former Chief ofthe NH Reseurch and Transation Divison). (oy nesbiyso yan, mks, At ako kapag naghakast ako I dole think of dash, Lakar ng skit excep cancer nakawan ako. But never got discourage hinking of death. No, no, no! Nagkaroon song hear atack, ang doctor nagulat akin et refsed co, te the hep, karl pak trick, Noon hustas ako nan «1 know went follow sinbi askin ing dat aligh, iho nothing wrong with you yous mayo homes I he, sing grace othe soy in the hop Fal er ‘abt kong gonoon, as dat morning a maghanoom ako mighese” an. de moons obs hearth “4 ‘0, Palpation? ‘Hint Walang sno, masa. Parang inadagunan ako €: Alam ang wife ko this is heart lata). Kasi ong aa hind ky ‘uldaman rng abou cholestrol E hung human ako tang mga dlang og ma mals. Hindi kos pkey pals on. Mano mong everyday yan? Ano, Peo baa kaya ayo ganiyan, ail nage a nyo a st ayo gine aha mg ‘Hind Tilpng mlanao14m pilosophil when cme ‘0 deh Hind! ako nator Noong pana ling ne Hapon «.- magobomba na ang Hapon,bakic ang ma ta mangangyhay gman, nag-iyskan, naiigawan. Ako, nanonoied pang ‘lyn. ag] Maar, ng hatwian ko thi s my only chance ‘osc wat! Ying nagbabonba nanonood ako! laughs! Noone binomba yung ano, T wasn Para Lawton, ang Plaa Lavon ung wher the Bonficio monument stands nu? Binowba ng ‘mgs Hapon yung mgs bark sa Pasig River ng gaia stray Jones bridge: Ang cnamaan ay ang Sto, Domingo Church tang ‘what isrow che easy. yung Itendencia ans ha? Yn ao pa {ng naman noon ung DMEM balding, yun angina, idl doamaan ng bark sw it acualy. ecause vas Ia Pa Tayeon, Nak, pr 0 nat ko yung ano pagobornb. vrasan experience, chance oF Iifetime na hin vo male. soong as aganiza ka lang bawal a ,pipiuan ka ng pul ‘Alo fai a ganja e"Kake pag namatay ka, isk ul ka M0) Kaya lang wock sd wore hanggang, aon ple farsa srs e's een 100 (Bremeny ar coar aia Cotay 6h le Um! For at long 2 can ll producst Ngayon, tang ibrong mas ‘UP Press may problem, dahil sn paper Sabi ko this wil e my ast serious work’ but Iwill noe sop seking shore pices lad Finthing! nt Serafin] Quiason” Lima yon, taper na Nandoon ho ako noong pinipirmahan ang tacks ninyo Tico pa ang indi nababayaran, Mura pa. Alun ma ten percent [ishing a] ang kina akin. Sabi kong ganoon, mura na eakunan pang een percent a ax. Sabi ko, what un (Quison] should have done was co calculate. Aligh, en percent ang kukunin 522,000 [pesos).e di gain 2.200 [pesos] para kang bavvasan ag [en percent ae, the check T wil ceive wl be che tpt of tase). Gavan ang gina ng mga Hapon sa Japan whe Taught ehere in 1978 Tis pad Birthousand yen, Alam mong, ins nla? May eax ya, withholding. Alam mong gnaw ils? "They added che computed tax pra buo ang 5fy-ehousand (yen) ig bigay ot akin “Mab kang ganiyan, per sinabian na ko na history a very sexpernive hob. Kaela ng Nerox lang, Noong aa, walang Xerox, kaya ako elagang by hand. Saadents today, provided they have the means no, mada Hind gaya taming n00ng tra na nama ibeary ke ng ganiyan ua kas ng notes. Ast fa kame. Gaya ni [Leopoldo Yabes,snuspend nt Dean Kalaw [fr publishing an aril on necking in UP] “Wy did you do tae” sabing ganoon, "Why did you not consult ne? You should have consulted me fist before writing tha inthe Free Pres” Hindi makakibo ang Yabes no ba? Suspended one ‘vel laughs "mmorlicy 8 UP ‘Ang hayaran sa Fee Ps [noon sampung piso. Noon, mala nz ‘yon. De you know that Yabo... know Yabes belong to a poor family pearan. Pesan fai ela ng background Yar lacs, Yang wife ny belongs coa beter family. Ang kaniyang father in-law, Justice of Peace. Sa Ineamoror nakacr yas Te of at og Lal Codon Case on Ch OO —— ‘uvaro/na mgs wal il, kasama iyong kapatl niyang namaray ‘amamaty lang. Gregorio Yaber Alam mor he finished UP by slp wring for che newspapers In he Fire Pres gana. asi mabubuay a ‘Alam mo P42.50 noong aaw ang macikula namin UP ‘Taps ten poe po aril os! Npsyon, you cannot live on writing, Kawa ngayon, (Oo! Noong ara iss pa, compared with the newspapermen before the war yung mga newspapermen ngayon are not only barbaric Inthe sens that hey have no culeure bur hey ae slso core. Bar before the war sina Amando Dayri,kaparié ni Marina, make ‘mo yan? They never stooped to such things. Rerepaluhan sl No, no, no! Nak ang mga newspapermen ngayon reregaluan yan nglatakuctakor na eae ng whiskey. Nox during ou time, before the war. That i why many ofthe newspapermen duting, thac ime namamatays1 TB. laughs} Oo! Si Dayeie.Dinadalaw ko yan everyday sa Quezon Institute: Kinula ng Hapon iyan kaya ‘lips ian sa Sen Juan de Dis Cle Real sa Inerarmaros ut ng ginawang Quezon Institute San Juan de Dios, naconfine a don. Oo, weak, wale siyang fighting ano [spirit]. As mater of fac. wot an emay of eighe pages about Day noong namaty siya Think he ded August 1944. Sil, unpublished iyan, bingy lay Marin, kal lang before Marna {Dayrit retired [fom the UP Library) ‘Aska, yung pal ninyong napde-debunk kayo ng ibang 120. "Nesyon, maryado slang polit Hindi polite yan eT chk iti. ‘You let mediocrity pas? ‘Comardice. Moral cowardice. And they ate nor sure of themselves. ‘Aska, noong ara hind! mass ian e Ine-expose ian Nosvon wale _ TAA: Oo, ngayon wala. Pag napalusapan. Noong ara wale Kaya divans UP sla koa the all Bend my bck, Nalini ss ki, peo hey cannot do anything because what sid about the ‘UP str. Yang aking Professorial Chae lecture as Refil Palma Profesor, "Scholarship i che Universi. ‘ARO: Nabasa ko po kanina, mara kayong nakssway paphaapos, ‘Sigur ‘ru Maraming nage pero walang naakibo. [ARO Pero oro ako naka ko. ‘Tak, Nobody ever anewered it becuse what Isai chere is er. Maging + promotion tn ho] yung committer on promodon ‘ARO: Snabi ko, this erure 0 song worded. TAA Qo, binaza ko ian To me, O-K. Sige, hal You should read my ‘Valeicory ade the paper I vead when Ieee, Thre wat «program, syerpre ako ang huling nage, Valeditory ano °T {sep ou ofthe darkness, nto she ualighe” laugh ‘ARO —_Lalong magpelc yong mea agai nny “ate Wala naman magagawa. Yung marami oong ane [valng nagagawal, yung may nagagava naman medlociy. ‘ARO. Kasi ngayon, everyone seems tobe bent on desoying he ‘Agonist, ‘Tate Wala naman sa kine You produce what | have done. tughs) [Noon a to ang sna ss akin noong mga kuwan ko st (Hisory] Department gays ela Mila [Guero Sabi ‘ik ly, ng mga i reongnagagalc sa iyo—alam kong sia e—"they will ‘toy your influence They wil estoy? Sabi ko, whac wl they ‘estoy? neve influenced these people sbi kong ganian. dst ‘are. Peo, "ko, people scape my ides and I hin people should Low the tue colar A tre scholar give is opinion, which ithe rl of ud. [dnt give a damn wha ther people ay. Why Should you give adam, whae other people sy? Le them svar atertey eben ne Pipnee 7 Ep oo Bs do what ou have done. laughs] Mazar, ning ila. newer attempt influence anybody. ics nam my characte Jnfuene anybody Bu there people karlad ns Mil [Gucerrol Mas (Bemardia Reyes] Churehil i lagan [Medina abl KO these people admit my works and were influenced by my works wichou myllencing therm. Kasi dont give = damn. SAbL ‘aw ni Renato Conscantino—aibigan korn yan—"ang ral at “Teddy he didnot eablish a school when he hd she fale” “ang “when he was the head ofthe History Departmen ‘bing pnoon. I could have exablished daw a school Pera sab koa school is nor etablched. A school crops up spontaneously Aschoal snr like school whee evcrybady converges, A school ‘scented when several people agree with what you say. agree wich your principe, and tha is what we calla school he school oft andso, Even in the school of Pll Science, hind big _nbibin ches people agreed to... not They may belong vo diferent ‘oun. The rouble with them is hae they ate so conscious they want that people should agree with them, No! I dont. I ost care. Bass ako, I make 2 sudy and shen I present she results of my say Thy ay hat depending on which ory book you vend yo Be ‘What history i not biased? laugh Tinanong ako nian nk Fran [Sion] Jost, ewan ko kang sa alabeslinerview published in Sliders reprinted inthis book]. never ask © Idiferent ako publicity. Tinanong ako ni Frankie [Sion Jos), “ome people say tha you are biared.” Ang sagot ko, show me Iori, a el historian, who is noe biased! Sabi ong gancom, show me! When you sy for example, that [Ferdinand] Marcor ie sand so, chen you ae biased “Therefore, you cannot ely on solid data, You have to interpret. You have wo incerpet of cours In history, pag sinabing objective 4a, you a nothing! You are nothing, absolutely nothing! Absolte 227 ugh} Even elendar chooses laughs] Humanap ka glalendaryo, makita mo na hindi lahat ay nakalagay 42 Salendaro. laughs] The people who ciiize me do not really now bisory. They are ignorant af what history i, because che i ? [a ‘very fet tat the raden of history chooses what to include and hae noc include in his wos proof that history s never ‘objective. [lughs] When you sy for example that Mrs (hmelda) “Marcos is beautfl woman, you are no being objective, because the Beaty of Mer Marcos doen sty that she besileie you! Taw ang nagssabing magands i Mrs, Marcos. In ocher ‘words you af alteady intrading youl Ino the pire? ‘The moment che seadet of hor ves what called the vale Judgment, and in hiory you alwys do cha, wala al Stan tandoon ang objectivity mo? eis important in history ro Be Tempra! Which diferent hope, ewan ko kung kala dla ni Frankie (Sin Jos ang yon and then [my ets wl realie ‘hel stupid ag) Bago ako nagpunta dito, binasa ko ang “word war nnyo nt Vivenclo Joe” ‘Naka! [DELETED] Inisop ng kamag-ank nang i Frankie Inistop lng, Sabi ko, that low doesnot know history. Taga, mo ang siagoe nya ako. Hind nia ako sinagot. He never newered me age] [Nataakor akong sbihin nyo ito kana, pero sabi ko baal na. “Minamana mong sbihn nat (Antonio) Luna was dhe leader ofthe revolution in guns Spain? Pate Since when did Luna Fehe apne the Spaniard? He never fough the Spaniard ros ssbihin nang lade? Asa mate of fc, Lana was ator fo ‘he Revolution of 13961 Alam mo, I wil wre an exsayon Lana ad Aguinaldo I wil wre an say hung bakit maramiog nagalt lexy Lina and justify spaplat Lana nt only didnot oin the Revolution of 1896, he was alton! Nagrro lyn a! Negra, es ilagay bn Vivenio Jou yan? Wala! Maraning hindi Inilagayst Vrenco or] roon either because or lgnrance ov big iyang plain si Luna. Asa matter of fact Ido nor conser Lana her. How did he become a ero? Tiara cis eben gre sree ecnge Smetana saan eae ‘Doon lang he did nor win any bade. “He never won ay bate, papssno mo sasabihing hero ane ‘Unreal ang role ny in Philippine history He never won abate! Unt Paghatapos sasabihinnitong Vivncio kung sinunod dew Luna, yung gue BREE a war Nong panabong sina niang magargeiy= hid masa ang furl. Because che Americans were sill weak a the ime, apaano gepeiahin ian? Pangalaws, there wat 20 Peparstin, for gctla ware. Hindi niga ia-analyae, All hat be wana ‘ofall he things thar Luna did Luna was son oF ‘Ae aang baby yng ak pitino dso Say, Jou Santon, come ako ang gumawa ng biography ng faker ‘ijn si Don Panyong kaya ning very close sa akin fang Dep st maraming nabigay akin ian, Sabi ni Pepe, “Oy, ‘meron akong utihi, hind: ko pa naasabi kabit kang, ‘Ako ang confdane ng 33" abing ganoon, “ang taay [Don, Payongh st Luna, at sak. meron pang st ©" along pinakamagaling na gar and they were good Iriend pers [pumas be ang ay ng say on Luna?” He never di, Bue Fe wrote manuscript ng gana kakapal a (demonstate). "Aginaldey au Tiempo. Binigny s akin iyan. Ako lang ang sneron iy, Edi nematsy nasi Pepe noong 1964 o 1963, ‘Noong 1973, magpu-publsh ang Historical Institute under (Bana de} Ocampo. ang The Reet ‘Ao, ako ang nagsamasuma noon, at pins translate ke kay Lato, yng ano, “Aguinaldoy su Tiempo" para ‘ka kong _iyan mamatay ako o ano, at last meron nang publiction ‘wich my annoaions. Ang sab aw ng etay nips [Epifanio de los Santer," Luna ay pacrocc pero hijo de pu” (laughs) aioe, pero ede pra (laughs) EE Todaro stan pt de Sete ne pecan ect Racer a | [Natatawa ako kasi ang hahaba ng sagutan ninyo al [Vivencil Jone 4 Solider. Sabi ko, pinawa tins iyo kung ane ang ginawa ninyo kay (Eufronio} lip!” Yung? Yang inilagay yung work ninyo s Inis-isang himayin ‘Sinagos ko rin siya ng ene Hind nlya nagawa st akin yung ‘ano ©. Ss UP pa ako noong, ang sabi ng iba, “Prof. José i not newering Pro. Agoncilln” Abs king dinadala yung ano e 0 Confuse es the squid nag-aano ng ik co confuse che pursuer No, ‘marami pa siyang hind nalalamang an. Puno kayo ng data Hind nya ake ang Philippine Insurgent Records “May lisahan daw sya ng mga hindi mo raw gina Anong isthan? Hindi naman ako ang sumular ng [libro eunghel kay Lina) Sia ang dapat gumami! Philippine Iesurgene Records, Hind niy gnamic ang eit ni Baldomero Aguinaldo ma tminumura si. galt a galt, minurs si Lona. Hindi la iilagay pero nando ot aking Malis A biography should be fthGa fo tuth I do not believe thaca biography ofa man should be al pales It should be bodh Ipraze and ert) because it is not bd to show the human side oFs perso. You make him human by painting the defers ‘Mins, hinangaan ko si Nonong Quezon! I chink chis wat fn 1961, napharoon ang UP Astociation of Foreign Sradencs, inagpatys SP Lopes. Nandoon ako, si Nonog. Quezon nandoon din: Invited kam Naghausap kam ni Nonong 2 mapap-asapan ‘nami ang biographies written about Quezon. Alam mong sbi 52 ‘kin doon,hinangaan ko sl Nonong. I idee exper co heat this fiom him, “Ara matter of fier” sbi, "you know Profesor, Tinga ns daca uaa Acton Eto Mt Tp Lacan teary roach oh coi be claro ie mcg tes hp cain pred ote Une oo ‘Enolgr bh cual rghit baer 35 aan ey Ythric sie whi Sore oon ay hind aly mano when Iwasa sent Hi Leandro) Fernand. An8 "3 alam iV ne re i Ve Ko a ebay ma comer rere eg te "in = aman omer ki ai Dr, Viado, Sin gh Ganiyant Kaya i "his beloved bole” Kaya Leonie [Leon M J. Naku, mayroon 82 you can se, Nagle er ofthe liver a agkaabi kami yan 8 Hi md ami nin =n ia Naan orance, ral nat For history, Pro some P a tant iy meng: i Dore 0 Fernand, sed with Biographies writen about ms AOE ni Lana, agrscarc ako. Kaya ak Pi Hing ang on, Aisin, isory—Ho ang Fi a tne kom avanced courses eel on ioral areola eng naghahandenyan—the aide of a Econ hou be sbi ko, dos accept anything sl avs Doube everyting ncading Your Prete! Shag yeur uc aug) Kaya cwanan yung Ela bs lading your arene tld ito, yng biigny mo = sking ew clipping fon he rae my oe Aelia Mains Birthdate, Uo ang coe Goveno o Batng) kya hin amas rene ind a mananlo yan dal dan, Ang ress dake he word of Mab ont ha Why i ae rtnong ko naman, why should we Ws he all 1 re thas moter ws ig bio his or Why? Maging government ETON ra may ee o may easton dang wor wo a Hala, so} greet dat of ih ee panes iy Hal Tsong a equemen “Eo po” Init sah us ean acerca. Ako aman sy naka 946 te tara oon ak ami aya mab ae eo sng ia yung crn St torr on ng Hap weg bir ie, Asiala cen ra mon enc pont of view, ne day sent fo hl nd yung ow hous one ay. Sb too ing tt me, bby bon on sch and ach 2 a yl How do you know ta? hugs) Ta ial tj wil ak How do you ko? (ugs Kye the Fema ara ang pata ko an, No 1 How do you know How did abil koow the he war bots 00 cra pny aragaak sk 0 Tne, nO 1 so dong bamaganakdoon. Tnanong Ko 2 sae Mg nr Nanny ong ve ami ies a Ey yang bt kong ian “neon hong, 1860 Lace py agp asda papetang aya “Aa eae 2 eked bing poor. “Landa” a, Ae ta nor ko an ang 1928 and hen el 30% [ane Hib who ws singin the allege of AEC ads nipan per a no ons sing na | doit care whether OE has aka yung secon watch oe Sh on aya kapag AES lpinanganak si Mavis hin kako, mali sgh) A iat eerie de vical methodology ne ithe they di dy the problem. Tr Coos Quine pero ang nga nya Fa Spee thurs no root Do you know noon pan pleted J Stipa ng eons von tha ay bu befor! Mada rng og Yon chew nao. an ond To me bt the bps crf oct st authori And i age? gi) No That absurd Hn tho ania dys t,o, o yuri. allan kt agen tian mo? aughs) On he dy yo a aan agua ay Ue TORLETED ‘Agta ‘ang goon, “lays be Po repunal prom cherie). Tegan as a a” Molaro how Lae at conc. puree rag da ang babe: Bangg on ae ay dio ae) nga pi ko a Kai fvotabl saa on aye kone srnoes don. bate por op lt of OD. (Corp UoREARNTAPED sinanscribe ko. one (Ger bina a. ee Na notes age roe ea “ sa id hn ang ma ng. ga ang poser Mapttaron lang pe eet Tt Wha the det fhe el ri ins Dito as angel ms a inikrtika ak ding to prof ‘the ‘ge ie x becuse eis hi Teh at K dail ra skipagao sa | 1 palibbassy mabusing magatis ivan pt ‘iirc Foon bs ann bak tsk ang an gan ha, gay Se a ro an nga gn the mac fe si el gee with Eats masa na pop ns laha nkalagay ame Han) ssi bn Jest rd Cibo wh st wt us, Herodotus was the frst, es dents is Thucydides. If you have re: hol ‘War, you will adeite che fel " ‘ re mag Thucyi oe ” 4 " mt ga la ang Biya, May shor PP "Bre rt Maan puch PS = ae ipa mara sh " eon th ag Hist ndy, 6 Depactment Sip bina ya yan orginal Thao. eth namberene Lie Kaa Ging rs Gibbon = Theor Memmi Nas og 3 wn at Memumsc, Nabasa kong a stake vo ink iy influences | il sto" ination. [do no mea is Naku basahin 2 Talagens but beeen he «0 5 prox magaling st GY umentatin) si MOB op taiangan mo ng masts eal kung ho aga: Sab na she wo olan Jets Cosn Taps, ected aml ‘unas then dr recreate he tho ys ngzang ngayon ate pee was you shoul do, iP nando nau go the pie Toe ca yn ison alam mong ina mG rank cae Be wa Hew So ewan expels om Oxo ting he wene 0 Ro ips aed hi ja el ey dens. Te sesh Teen dan agg lita tad gl sb chat 9 es ose oops se present io cane psd you ae weg y you descrbed Sole,“ sent Sih pono brs)” Bago xc encom koma iris ath Cae 4 vag map’ ng oud ang anit dap pan (oe Bat Sebi og > Uae xen manger gh Bu pele who Bae 2ppreiion ri ner ce he Pur atl Sonu ay pelt Wiens i man ch Sabing ita = Agu Hem, walang eda Toe si —E x0; Eh ong Menor ook (Sr sory ofthe Philipping parang hl ya” “Tks Kail wastinited wo 50.000 words, Sil direst the | ao ‘ypegaphil ror ina book of that sis, ehink ita beger | TaN book than any othe. Nabasa ko yong kay Fels Cans i 10 Reading inPilppine Hiv ‘es Hind, Guava si Fede a Cone ng Geral History of the oe Philipines, mimeopephd, hind pinaputblich. 1 have acy aw ‘he hind iiss pen mor 490, Maybe tid noc match Js he Philippine ‘ss oak isa fc xy om Join he Philippine akg ines ARO* th. Yousehe topped at a ces pon before the evolution a Jinan ang hirap ng maging pat because somehow YOU have to conser your lig profesion, Fe [i] Lim lng ang. (ost ska hats noc his fel pero he as the COUTBEE. Fe dela Cosas god man. He would nor go agains Because was 2 pod man Mabie naa. Buthow dd you plsh your craft You used to write fton? ‘Alam no, Kapa aay eatanong, “which is your best book? mangat they know me because of The Reve bs Tam sd when, eopl ak this way becuse The Revels was wten a the spor the moment because fe war a comten™ Aya matte of ex talaga hind ako sal. twas [Leopoldo] Yabes hac complied ARO! ‘me, Sabing ganoon, “can you imagine the number of dat aw tharyou have! You have che ta, wiy cat you?” Napa ko ngayon Eh mayroong dealie dahil x conics iyan ch. Lave no me een oe. Now i have ro eit, twill ede the phrweslogy ‘bt not the fs Thefts wil and and my contusion wil BR BE Tear ate iNew Yoke New Amescan ea, weatrraapany dian totsnt sscneinny aso ocees pedcononed mime etry fulyo8 Resrgues faa Alt UB See eee i] es ie and. The edicing wil bein the phraseology because fe was ‘inpolshed. Nanalo pa ent Nanalo pa rn! Aa a matter of fic, che judges were rake in twas beautiful Unamimous ang aming voting, there wat no opposition. Si {Camilo} Oxiarsumal(sughs) Because you used to write fetion indi lang iyon think even ifyou write fexionkulang because ‘you have to distinguish berween the two. Yung snabi ni Nie “Trongeon, sabi nya, I succoflly marie Keeracure and histor. Kasi ouside your historical work, you write poetry and. Yes, and essays, and terary citi. Kaya mga mayroon akong, sulat dios basa mga admiter hong babae na eaga- NHI, Mr {Lia} Ramos (de Leon), nasa Sates ngayon. She’ taking her Matters degree [DELETED] Naprurulatan kart niyan and I Advised heron what zo do. In my laces letter, sabi kos Kania, dont be satsed wih your degree. You must continue vo wri tnd write and wete vo develop your syle. Tapos, binanggit ko yong cate ni George Bernard Shaw. Did you know that George [Begnand Shaw started writing at [age] 40? Buc the devrmination of Bernard Shaw, he wrote everyday. Kahic ano lang, slat! Thats the way to develop, because writing, ike anyother profession feeds contant practice, Parang doctor pag hindi ka nagepractice ‘hang maga, la na. Boxing paniyan din. Athlses. di kayo arawaraw? ‘Well, noong araw ganiyan ang ginaws ko. Ngayon, Ihave writen hough, probably more than enough, more chan any other bistorian has written, Ihave writen on many subjects. I dhink that is enough. I give myself the chance ro enjoy kaya nagbabasa kong fetion. Ngayon, [want eo rewead, hindi lang babasshin yung Joseph Contad, A Polish, kapican sa barko yan, kaya ang ‘esctipcon niya ng eyphoon, naka Teri I review yung mage Imagagandang libro. read and vetead. And [in] everything Ire ‘ead I find beauty. ZEEE i yan og ang bin Abe (.Agulay Crs yo have €0 rea “Tagalog jst forthe bau of. Krys sr a ma ates ke, 6p an in ang ae. You hae co rad the old. nots

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