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Legal Positivism - Philosophy of Law Atty Arjan
Legal Positivism - Philosophy of Law Atty Arjan
So pag may mag kontra sa ‘yong idea, you’ll also So in contrast to the overlap thesis mentioned in
have a reply. So later on, we will see that, the natural natural law, the positivist have what is known as
list also have something to say against the Positivist. SEPARABILITY THESIS. (from Stanford
Encyclopedia of Philosophy.)
ALTERNATE WAY OF EXPLAINING POSITIVISM
(BREAK)
So now let’s go to LAWS METAPHORICAL AND But bakit niya pa kailangan i discuss ito na obvious
FIGURATIVE; ang number four earlier. man na hindi- yung laws of fashion- that's not part of
● Laws metaphorical or figurative, or merely Positive Law?
metaphorical or figurative, are law improperly
so called. A law metaphorical or figurative Because for positivists, there was a great confusion
and a law imperative and proper are allied by of the term law by the Naturalists. So dili na mag ka
analogy merely; and the analogy by which dimao. Kay may dalawa sila- jural law and non jural
they are allied is slender and remote. law. So, in Philosophy of law during that time; the
Instances of such a use of the term ‘law’ are language was very confusing. That's why in the
the expressions- ‘THE LAW OF HONOR’, opening of this book or work- John Austin made it
’THE LAW SET BY FASHION’ and rules of
clear that we are only talking about positive law a wish. Sabihin mo yung gusto mo paired with a
(wala ng iba)- there was a statement of the obvious. sanction or an immediate evil (or punishment if hindi
sinunod ang gusto mo). The law does not just say it
So this is one of the important concepts of positivism wishes for the citizens. It also accompanies what it
as set forth by John Austin. wishes with a SANCTION, FINE, or
For the essential difference of a positive law (or the IMPRISONMENT. It is this coercive force of law that
difference that severs it from a law which is not a helps law secure a position in society and part of
positive law) may be stated generally in the following social reality. The legislature cannot just say what it
manner: wishes for the citizens or how it wants the citizens to
act. It also needs to impose punishment and it is the
Every positive law or every law simply and strictly so EXECUTIVE department that enforces these
called, is set by a sovereign person, or a sovereign commands and sanctions.
body of persons, to a member or members of the
independent political society wherein that person or Those are the basics of John Austin.
body is supreme. Or (changing the phrase) it is set
by a monarch, or sovereign me☐number, to a person or HANS KELSEN: THE PURE THEORY OF LAW
persons in a state of subjection to its author.
Hans Kelsen was an Austrian jurist, legal
Again, in the Philippine context, when we talk about philosopher, and political philosopher. Also, one of
the sovereign body of persons, this refers to the the authors of the AUSTRIAN CONSTITUTION. His
LEGISLATURE. But in positivism, the element of most influential work is THE PURE THEORY OF
COERCION is also very important. So, the executive LAW. We will take a few excerpts from that.
department also plays a role in positing or According to Kelsen,
positioning the law. Although it is the legislative that
makes the law, the executive ENFORCES the law. The postulate to differentiate law and morals,
It is a branch of government that applies FORCE so jurisprudence and ethics, means this: from the
that the law is feared and citizens are SUBJECTED standpoint of scientific cognition of positive ethics, its
to it. justification by a moral order different from the legal
order, ir irrelevant, because the task of the science
So, as mentioned by Austin: of law is not to approve or disapprove its
Every law or rule (taken with the largest signification subject, but to know and describe it.
which can be given to the term properly) is a True, legal norms, as prescriptions of what ought to
command. Or rather, law or rules, properly so called, be, constitute values; yet the function of the science
are a species of commands. Being liable to evil from of law is not the evaluation of its subject but its free
if I comply not with a wish which you signify, I am description. The legal scientist does not identify
bound or obliged by your command, or I lie under a himself with any value, not even with the legal value
duty to obey it. If, in spite of that evil in prospect, I he describes.
comply not with the wish which you signify, I am said
to disobey your command, or to violate the duty to So, one who is engaged with the study of law is not
which it imposes. supposed to approve or disapprove it but just to
know or describe it. For positivists, if you're going to
When I am talking immediately of evil itself, I employ study the law, no comments on whether it's good or
the term SANCTION. The evil to be incurred being bad or whether it's valuable or not. Your task as
signified directly once the obnoxiousness to that evil someone who studies the law is just to know it and
with the expression or inclination of the wish are describe it.
indicated indirectly. OLD ENGLISH, let's simplify: Scientists when they observe under a microscope,
he writes his observations. Sa microscope, wala na
So basically, for him, the law is a command. So, man comments ang scientist na this is for the
when you say a command, there is an intimation of common good, this is reasonable, this is evil. He just
hint
writes his findings. So for positivists like Kelsen, positivism is the opposite of Natural Law Theory. So
ganun din dapat yung Philosophy of Law. As a let's go to the specifics of that. The main criticism of
scientist of law, you're only supposed to describe it- positivist’s School of Thought against a Naturalist is
not to assess it, not to approve or disapprove of it. that, Naturalist commits what is known as the “is-
–----------------------------------------------KATE END—-- ought” fallacy. And the common comments that legal
----------------------------------------------- positivists say that the law is the law, even though
it's immoral, and they posit that its legal requirement
Not to make us a scientist of law, you’re only is what makes the law a true law, should not be
supposed to describe it, not assess it or approve or confused with its moral requirement. Legal positivist
disapprove of it.Ok. If you're following the lecture, look at natural law as confusing between the laws
out of all the schools of thought, although dalawa meeting the requirement and its compliance
lang naman yung diniscuss natin so far, the requirements.
operating philosophy the Ateneo de Davao College
of Law is really a positivist school of thought. So Jeremy Bentham, a legal positivist cites that is-ought
actually ganito lang ang thinking natin noh? fallacy and our view on the law as it should be
distinguished from the law as it should be, the
As a student, your task is to know the law and to proposition that a law is valid it's not the same as the
describe it. As a student, you're not asked for your one who ought to obey it. Food is food whether it is
opinion or your input whether you think the law is well or badly prepared and its existence, I.e. that it is
good or bad. Most of the time and you are not going not the same as one ought to eat it. Ok so it's one
to be asked that , you're not going to be asked of thing to describe what the law should be and what
your opinion. It's not because Ateneo is hostile to the law is. This fallacy occurs in the works of
such discussion , it's because we don't have the Naturalist when they try to interchange and
luxury of time. Kasi four or five years is a short period discussion of what the law is and what the law ought
to know the law. And you're going to be prepared for to be. For example when we go back to our previous
the bar exam. And hindi naman magtanong yun sa discussion on natural law philosophers, like for
bar exam if you think this law is reasonable or do example si Thomas aquinas sabi nya na “ A law that
you think this law is good , walang ganyan na is unjust law is not a law”. For positivists, they find
question noh? So parang positivist talaga ang that statement confusing. Kung ang just law hindi
underlying philosophy of at least most of Philippine sya law, eh ano sya, just a bunch of words? What is
law schools. You just have to know the law and it trying to say when Sir Thomas said that an unjust
describe it and know how to apply it. law is not a law. If there's a particular law that is
unjust, then what is it? So parang ganun confusing,
This is different in American schools, like in the US ang language na yun is confusing. Again because
they value more like hindi naman sila pabonggahan the naturalists keep on switching between is and
ng scores noh? They value more the public service ought. So, parang sabi ng positivist, baka eto yung
in their law school. They value the practicum more, sabi ni St Thomas Aquinas yung gusto yang sabihin
like for example Obama, he was known in his law na an unjust law is law but a law ought to be just.
school, not because he is a top notcher kasi wale From this initial phrase, he separates nya into 2
naming ganun sa US, but because I think he was the phrases noh. Less confusing and more
class president, he was the head of their publishing grammatically correct let's not confuse is and ought.
in their legal publication, so Iba ang kanilang So that's the frustration of the positivist with a
attitude. I just noticed noh basta law school ano naturalist. For them don't tell us what the law ought
talaga positivist. No other comments from the to be and tell us what the law is, that should be the
students, basta alamin yung law then tapos na. concern in the first place, so ayawg ingna kung unsa
ang dapat sa balaod , ing na kung unsa ang balaod.
OK so we're going back to these two philosophers, That is the ought fallacy kasi naturalists tend to
we're going to discuss positivism as criticism against interchange the two concept together that is how the
Natural Law Theory. I mentioned earlier that fallacy is committed.
according to this commentator, Austin produces a
So going back to the work of John Austin, he did not clear way of thinking about the law by creating the
discredit the principle of natural law, it's just that for science of legislation and jurisprudence.
him, we have to organize how we approach law . For Furthermore Austin wanted to show that we can
him there should be a distinction between the make sense of the law on its own and we don't have
science of legislation and the science of to derive our logic from natural law. The law can
jurisprudence. And going back to John Austin, that make sense even if you don't have to bring God into
the department of science of ethics which is the discussion. It is logical and it's own. So this is
concerning especially with positive law as it ought to related to criticism against naturalists. Again there is
be is styled the science of legislation; that the a lack of precision in the language of natural law
department of the science of ethics which is theory. The positivists are concerned in the Natural
concerning especially with positive morality as it Law Legal Theory, there’s always this back and forth
ought to be, has hardly gotten a name perfectly between jural law and natural law. This can be
appropriate and distinctive. Now, though the science confusing to the readers. So Austin says that I
of legislation , or positive law as it ought to be, is not determined positively what that matter is, and I
the science of jurisprudence(or positive law as it is) distinguish it from various objects which are
still the sciences are connected by numerous and variously related to it, and with which is not
indissoluble ties. So the study of what the law ought infrequently blended and confounded.
to be should be relegated to the science of
legislation. Of course from the term itself science of And regard that earlier as John Austin clarified noh
legislation means it is the concern of the legislature. na positive law hindi to yung law of passion, laws of
So kung anong dapat sa batas, what the law ought morality hindi to metaphorical or figurative laws.
to be, give that problem to the congressmen, give Again this is all, and similarly John Austin also
that problem to the legislative council, kasi their separated, wants to separate the study of legislation
concern is the science of legislation. and the study of jurisprudence. Again his goal here
is to really clear up the confusion in the language.
It's also the concern of science of ethics but the The dominance of the natural law’s School of
discipline of knowing what the law is should be Thought got a lot of confusion, that's why they want
relegated to the science of jurisprudence so this to focus on the positive law. That is his reaction to
refers to the study of the law as what it is at the the confusion in laws noh. Ok so let's now go to, next
present moment, so kung ano ang batas sa ngayon criticism against naturalists and this is the more
or what the law is right now, that is the concern of important or incisive criticism of when we talk of
the students, that is a concern of the lawyers. So morality, morality is subjective and therefore it does
gusto nya no ni John Austin, I-seperate nya para not make sense to make morality the basis of law or
hindi confusing ang language. So there has to be have the law overlapped with morality.
this distinction so that the thinkers will not commit
that is-ought fallacy. END