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Quick Tips: How to translate a MemSource project using memoQ

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I will probably write more about MemSource in the future. For now a quick workaround if you find yourself
having to translate a project in MemSource but would much rather use memoQ instead - for instance,
because you find that MemSource lacks some feature you love in memoQ, or more simply because you
find that MemSource is slowing you down.

1. Log in to the MemSource cloud, accept your project, pretranslate it, and download it as a bilingual
.mxliff file (just as you would if you wanted to translate using the MemSource desktop editor).
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joined or split (Important: do this in the MemSource editor - don't wait to do this operation in BELOW:
memoQ: you might end up with a translated file that doesn't load cleanly in MemSource). Save
your file. Name
3. Open memoQ. Create a new project, and add to it your .mxliff file. When adding your document
select "All files" (don't select "All supported files" or "XLIFF files": memoQ doesn't yet recognize
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Select "All files" to import the .mxliff file

4. In Document Import Options, change the filter from "Unknown" to "Xliff".

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5. At this point you'll have successfully imported your file in memoQ, but you'll see that all the
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Konstantin Dranch Friday, June 10, 2016 Sometime it's the small things that make a
difference. Such as a translation company
Hi Riccardo! What specific feature from MemoQ do you lack in Memsource? Did you try the always sending an acknowledgment
desktop editor? whenever we send t...

You can translate like you suggest, but that would cripple other translators on the team, because MTPE of Poor Quality Source Texts: Some
they won't get real time updates to translation memory. Practical Suggestions
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Riccardo Friday, June 10, 2016 Quick Tips: How to translate a

MemSource project using memoQ
Hi Konstantin,
Recently a major customer of ours
changed from using SDL Trados Studio to
In this case it was not even so much a specific feature (though I find MemSource on using MemSource, an online CAT tool.
the whole underfeatured with respect to Studio or memoQ): it was the fact that Our customer probably has goo...
MemSource showed extreme lag in certain segments (9-10 seconds passing between
pressing a key and the corresponding character appearing on screen).
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BTW, what about the 'Translated' status in mxliff? All segments in imported mxliffs have the 'Not ► May (4)
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Someone more knowledgeable than me in memoQ could perhaps suggest a
workaround.
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This was very useful! But you only mention how to protect the opening tags, what about the
closing tags (for instance <b} and <i} )? I don't know a single thing about RegEx, but I'd really
appreciate your help on this! TOTAL PAGEVIEWS

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Riccardo Wednesday, March 01, 2017

Hi Birgitte,
If you look at the last screenshot above, you'll see that the closing tags are already
included in my example... but you are right, I didn't specifically indicate how to deal
with them: I said
"Repeat, adding all the different types of tags you have in your document."
so, if, following my example, the way to protect the opening tags is NO TO PEANUTS!
\{[a-z]{1,2}>. Join the No Peanuts! Movement
The corresponding way to protect the closing ones is
<[a-z]{1,2}\}.

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Lion9 Tuesday, March 07, 2017

Has anybody seen such a mistake with mxliffs: joined-P341-J1-2-3-ru-en-T.mxliff: Some content
from the XLIFF file has not been imported because the file's language pair does not match the
project's languages. The file's language pair is Russian - English?

As a result, not a single segment is imported :(

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Riccardo Tuesday, March 07, 2017

Hi Lion9,

Have you checked whether the languages in your project are in fact different from the
languages in your xliff file?

Depending on the tool, even a slight difference may prevent your tool from working
with a file, if the languages pr sub-languages are different.

I had a similar experiences years ago when I tried to use an EN_US>ITA memory to
translate an EN_CN>ITA file.

If there is indeed a difference, you can solve the problem in various way one is to open
the xliff file in a text editor and search and replace the language codes.

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Hanna Sles: Russian translator Monday, June 26, 2017

Hi Riccardo! Thanks for this post. I have a similar issue with MemQ. And thanks for this post I
managed to solve it though I am not much familiar with Regex.

Now the issue is how to export memory files to the cloud server.
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Elim Garak Friday, March 13, 2020

Hello Ricardo. Do you know a way to import other keys than language ones also? I have
something like this:
"
enemies.name.s3_dwarf_axe
CHANGED. Gender: Male
"
But it's never imported.
Thank you!
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Riccardo Friday, March 13, 2020

Hi Elim,
I'm not sure I understand your question: what part of your example should be protected, and hat
should be translated?
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Elim Garak Friday, March 13, 2020

Hi Riccardo and first of all thank you.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. None of that should be translated, they're all comments I'd like to be
imported. Maybe it's clearer if I copy the whole tu.
"
Dark Dwarf Scout

"
Thanks again!
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Riccardo Friday, March 13, 2020

Hi Elim,

That didn't import correctly in Blogger (I assume it's because it contains tags that
Blogger can't deal with).
If you could contact me via e-mail, and send me a copy of what material you can
share, I'll be happy to take a look. You can email me at the following address:
RSchiaffino {at} aliquantuminc.com

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Anonymous Wednesday, September 21, 2022

You can only import bilingual doc files in memsource now...

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Elim Garak Wednesday, September 21, 2022

Actually, I have re-imported an mxliff file in Memsource today (after translating it with
MemoQ).

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