Erowid Experience Vaults Report Id: 57508

Ergine Extraction
by Mandel

Dose: T+ 0:00 500 seeds Morning Glory extract

Body weight: 0 lbs

Ergine Extraction from Ipomacea Violencia Seed Matter

Experimental
1) Approxamately 500 seeds are ground as fine as possible in a coffee grinder. I have tried this
many times before with no success. It costs fifteen bucks, get real and just buy a coffee grinder.
This forms a yellow nutty smelling powder. There will probably be a couple of still visible shreds
of seed husk as well.
2) The powder is placed in a 1 L flask and petroleum ether is added to fill the flask. Some people
suggest using Naptha as a solvent because of its relative ease of purchase. It could be used in a
bind, because it is a quick evaporating solvent. Just be aware that naptha also goes under the
names of petroleum benzine and coal tar. Petroleum ether is a much better solvent I think, and
worth the hassle that comes with getting it.
3) Agitate the liquid for 4 hours. If this sounds like it might wear you out then you might want
to consier creating a machine to agitate it for you. There are several on the market, but they are
a little pricey, and a little bit of creativity and ingenuity can save a lot of money. After agitation
the liquid should have turned lemon yellow/green. Filter and discard the liquid.
4) Repeat step two and three until the petroleum ether no longer changes color. Keep in mind
that the more you agitate, the more you get with each wash, and the less precious petroleum ether
you have to use. Penny saved is a penny earned.
5) Take wet seed matter and evaporate under vacuum. If you don’t have a vacuum to evaporate
under, then you can get a Pyrex pie pan and rig it on the stove using a skillet underneath it to
distribute heat a little more evenly. Use as low a heat as possible. Eventually it will get very dry.
I have been unable to find a heat of breakdown of ergine, but I am certain the low heat required
to evaporate petroleum ether is probably below it. Once dry, break up matter if it has clumped
together.
6) Dried seed matter is placed in a clean 1 L flask and 183 proof ethanol is added to fill the flask.
Ethanol is the best solvent for multiple reasons: it can be purchased legally and easily if you are
over 21. (If you aren’t over 21, what the hell are you doing getting into chemistry this serious?)
It is obviously suitable for ingestion, and it evaporates quickly and nicely. Agitate the flask for up
to four hours. The alcohol should turn dark yellow/orange. Filter off alcohol and save in a large
flask or nalgene. Repeat this step until the alcohol no longer turns color. Once expended, discard

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 Erowid Experience ID: 57508 Ergine Extraction by Mandel

seed matter.
7) You should now have between 3 to 5 liters of orange tinted ethanol. This consists mainly of
the alkaloids and resins. Most people here suggest evaporating it off, which is fine, but can leave
your possibly enclosed area with a whole lot of alcohol fumes, and so I suggest a different method.
A 500mL flask is filled with the orange solution and a condenser is set above it. Heat is added
to produce alcohol fumes, and the solvent is condensed off. Not only do you get a large portion
of your alcohol back (and probably substantially higher concentration), but you also don’t have a
large amount of fumes. You could buy a condensor somewhere for a couple hundred bucks. I got
creative and made one out of some stuff at my house.
Once the flask has dropped below one-third full, add more orange solution to fill it, mix, and then
replace condensor. This step is a little tedious, but is worth it as far as speed and efficiency. Once
you get down the the last flask full, the solution should be very cloudy, and if allowed to cool and
stongly agitated, you can force crystallisation of the alkaloids. I was considering filtering them off
here, but decided to continue on the evaporation to get them all. Once you get down the the last
third of the flask of solution, put it in a pyrex pie pan rigged on the stove top or heat source that
you have as before, and dry off the remaining solvent under a fume hood. If you only have a stove
fan, I would suggest at least rigging an additional box fan blowing out the vent as well. If you
want good separation, put the pie pan on an ever so slight tilt, you will find that things with less
molecular weight will come out of the drying solution first, and will form little veins across the top
of the pie pan. The heavier resins will come out last as a big thick brown glob at the bottom. If
you keep the pan level it will all just be together, so save yourself the nasty brown gunk.
8) When completely dry, take a clean razor and scrape the little yellow veins on the pie pan (or just
the whole brown gunk if you couldn’t get them to separate). If you are a decent chemist, you should
have a yellow crystalline solid. I got mine looking pretty good with no need for a recrystalisation
in a lighter solvent. Some friends of mine upon seeing it said that it looked sort of like really light
brown sugar. After this, an acid-base separation is possible, although there are plenty of useful
methods out there already for that and me putting one up would be redundant (not to mention
I didn’t use this additional method in this experiment, and so I wouldn’t be able to write it with
any qualitative information). The only more pure you get after that is chromatography, but if you
can afford chromatography/spectroscopy you could probably afford to hire a private chemist tutor
to teach you how to do this too. :-)
Now that you have the end product, it can be ingested (preferably by placement in a gel-cap), or it
can be saved as material for further reaction. I am doing a little research on peptide synthesis right
now, so within the next couple of months I will either have an experience report, or an experiment
regarding further synthesis using this product.

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