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Intel Launches Raptor Canyon: Desktop
Raptor Lake Sizzles in NUC13 Extreme
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Intel is officially taking the wraps off the first member of their Raptor Lake-based NUC13 family today. The
NUC13 Extreme (like the three previous Extreme NUCs) caters to the gamers and content creators requiring
leading edge performance and high-end discrete GPU support. Unlike the mainstream NUCs which have
been consistently maintaining an ultra-compact form-factor profile, the Extreme family has slowly grown in TWEETS
size to accommodate flagship CPUs and discrete GPUs. These systems integrate a motherboard in a PCIe
ganeshts: @FanlessTech @fragtalife
add-in card form factor (the Compute Element) and a baseboard that provides additional functionality with @yannFichant Just different color options, I
PCIe slots and other I/O features. As a refresher, Intel created the NUC Extreme category with the guess. The perforations on the underside
introduction of the Ghost Canyon NUC family in 2019. This was followed by the Tiger Lake-based Beast don'… https://t.co/rCRqXuXRWq
Canyon NUC in 2021 and the Alder Lake-based Dragon Canyon NUC earlier this year. The latest member of
RyanSmithAT: This guide went through a
this family is today's introduction - the Raptor Canyon NUC based on the Shrike Bay Compute Element. couple more revisions than usual. In
particular, PSU availability in 2022 is still
The NUC Extreme family has grown in physical footprint with each generation, and the NUC13 Extreme is surpri… https://t.co/NnAzbelJ0y
Intel's biggest one yet. Coming in at 317mm x 129mm x 337mm (13.7L), this is more of a traditional tower
desktop than the NUCs that the market has grown accustomed to. However, this size has allowed Intel to gavbon86: Sorry for being so quiet lately, but
I've been dealing with an illness. Don't worry
integrate flagship components. The Shrike Bay Compute Element supports socketed LGA 1700 processors
though, I'll be back to my best…
with a PL1 of 150W and PL2 of 250W (tau of 28s). The vertical centering of the baseboard within the case https://t.co/i3VtC2KvP6
enables plenty of isolation between the Compute Element on the top and the discrete GPU on the bottom.
RyanSmithAT: @adisor19 We will not be
Triple-slot dGPUs up to 12.5" in length are supported.
publishing one. Sorry.
The NUC13 Extreme Kit comes in three flavors, while the Shrike Bay Compute Element itself has six RyanSmithAT: What's up with the fake/spam
variations. These allow system integrators and OEMs to offer a wide variety of systems targeting different reviews on Apple's app store? These are
market segments. The table below summarizes the key differences between the three NUC13 Extreme kits. posts that are blatantly wrong - clearly
scrap… https://t.co/uzPeAZ4X5c

Intel NUC13 Extreme Kits (Raptor Canyon) ganeshts: @Casper042 @anandtech Yes.
There are cheaper Gen 2x2 enclosures, but
my experience with them has been flaky at
Model NUC13RNGi9 NUC13RNGi7 NUC13RNGi5
best… https://t.co/zCLcW1oeLl

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Intel Core i9-13900K Intel Core i7-13700K Intel Core i5-13600K ganeshts: @Casper042 @anandtech The
Raptor Lake, 8P + 16E / Raptor Lake, 8P + 8E / Raptor Lake, 6P + 8E / Silverstone MS12 with a SK hynix P31 is in
32T 24T 20T the comparison list already. The enclosure
CPU
5.8 GHz (Turbo) / 5.4 GHz 5.4 GHz (Turbo) / 5.3 GHz 5.1 GHz (Turbo) / 5.1 GHz is… https://t.co/U5aog0IGqK
(P) / 4.3 GHz (E) (P) / 4.2 GHz (E) (P) / 3.9 GHz (E)
125W TDP (Up to 253W) 125W TDP (Up to 253W) 125W TDP (Up to 181W) RyanSmithAT: @dankbaker Oof. I feel for
your IT team. Debugging failed RAM sticks is
Intel UHD Graphics 770 Intel UHD Graphics 770 Intel UHD Graphics 770 a rather painful experience
GPU
(300 MHz - 1.65 GHz) (300 MHz - 1.60 GHz) (300 MHz - 1.50 GHz)
RyanSmithAT: I'm getting back into the swing
2x DDR5-5600 SODIMMs of things after being out sick for a few days.
Memory
(up to 64GB) The timing couldn't have been worse;…
Motherboard 295.3mm x 136.5mm x 46.1mm (Custom) https://t.co/ebRDgD0cVF
(Compute ganeshts: @physbryan @robertheron After
Element)
much research and usage of both VRLA and
1x CPU-attached PCIe 4.0 x4 M.2 2280 Li-ion UPSes, the only positive I have seen…
1x PCH-attached PCIe 4.0 x4 M.2 2242 / 2280 https://t.co/0fshHsm6vC
Storage
1x PCH-attached PCIe 4.0 x4 / SATA M.2 2242 / 2280
2x SATA 6 Gbps (on baseboard) ganeshts: @robertheron Highly recommend
the APC Smart UPS 500 Li-ion if you want
2x USB4 / Thunderbolt 4 (Type-C) (Rear) something under your desk. Have 1 in
6x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A (Rear) deploy… https://t.co/lLnykFqC2p
I/O Ports
1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (Front)
2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A (Front) gavbon86: @Claressashields
@Savmarshall1 You absolutely outclassed
Intel Killer Wi-Fi 6E AX1690i her
(2x2 802.11ax Wi-Fi inc. 6 GHz + Bluetooth 5.2 module)
Networking
1× 2.5 GbE port (Intel I226-V) gavbon86: @MatchroomBoxing @iam_yafai
1x 10 GbE port (Marvell AQtion AQC113C) @DAZNBoxing 3rd ranked versus 138th
ranked...Amazing match up 😂
2x DP 2.0 (1.4 certified) (via Thunderbolt 4 Type-C, iGPU)
Display Outputs
1x HDMI 2.1 (up to 4Kp60) (rear, iGPU) gavbon86: RT @anandtech: Just in time for
storing all your holiday movies, @ganeshts
7.1 digital (over HDMI and Thunderbolt 4)
has updated his fantastic HDD buyer's guide.
Audio / Codec Realtek ALC1220 Analog Audio / Microphone / Speaker / Line-In 3.5mm (Rear)
USB Audio 3.5mm combo audio jack (Front) FC-MAMR, 22TB drive…

gavbon86: Either I haven't really put much

Metal
Enclosure into Christmas in the past, or I'm now of that
Kensington lock with base security
age where I'm excited about traditi…
Power Supply FSP750-27SCB 750W Internal PSU https://t.co/goSayBs2US

Dimensions 337mm x 317mm x 129mm / 13.7L

One PCIe 5.0 x16 with triple-slot GPU support up to 317.5mm in length Follow @ANANDTECH
Chassis Customizable RGB LED illumination on chassis underside
Expansion CEC support for HDMI port
Power LED ring in front panel  
3-year warranty

Each kit SKU corresponds to a NUC13SBB Shrike Bay Compute Element. In addition, Intel is also readying
the NUC13SBBi(9/7/5)F variants that come with the KF processors - those Compute Elements do not have
any Thunderbolt 4 ports. The HDMI port / graphics outputs are also not present. The three KF SKUs also
forsake the 10GbE port.

The block diagram below gives some insights into the design of the system in relation to the I/O capabilities.
Note that the system continues to use the Z690 chipset that was seen in the Dragon Canyon NUC.

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PCIe x16 bifurcation (x8 + x8) is possible for the Gen 5 lanes. However, the baseboard design in the Raptor
Canyon NUC kits does not support it. This is yet another aspect that OEMs could use to differentiate their
Shrike Bay-based systems from the NUC13 Extreme.

Intel has provided us with a pre-production engineering sample of the flagship Raptor Canyon NUC
(augmented with an ASUS TUF Gaming RTX 3080Ti GPU) for review, and it is currently being put through the
paces. The 150W PL1 and microarchitectural advances in Raptor Lake have ensured that the benchmark
scores are off the charts compared to the previous NUC Extreme models, albeit at the cost of significantly
higher power consumption. On the industrial design side, I have been very impressed. By eschewing a fancy
chassis and opting for a simple cuboid, Intel has ensured that all the I/O ports are easily accessible,
installation of components is fairly straightforward, and cable management is hugely simplified. The increased
dimensions of the chassis are well worth these advantages over the previous NUC Extreme models. Stay
tuned for a comprehensive review later this week.

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nandnandnand - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

Introducing the Next Unit of Computing: Extended ATX.
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powerarmour - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

NUC has become it's own meme now, these size increases are just laughable.
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cbutters - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

the "Next Unit of Computing" a regular sff case that takes a regular GPU... Maybe they should have
rebranded for this a little? (I tease)
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edzieba - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

You'd be hard pressed to build a SFF PC of similar specs, with an INTERNAL PSU, in 13.7L. Comparable
SFF sizes will be using an external AC-DV brick and an internal DC-DC (usually 48v-ATX or 19V-ATX)
converter in order to achieve a similar form factor, and will be coming in well below the 750W rating here.
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meacupla - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

Not true at all. 13.7L is getting into compact mATX territory.

Kaibou ZZaw C2: mATX, 4 slot, 14L

Lian-Li Q58: mITX, 3 slot, 14.5L
Sliger S610: mITX, 3 slot, 13.3L
Dan cases C4-SFX: mITX, 3.5 slot, 13.37L
Louqe Raw S1: mITX, 3 slot, 12L

SFX PSUs with 750W are easy to find. There are even SFX-L 1000W from Lian-Li, and 1200W from
Asus.

Thunderbolt4 for mATX/mITX can be had on:

Asus ROG Strix Z690-I Gaming Wifi
Asrock Z690 Phantom gaming ITX/TB4
and their Z790 versions
These TB4 mobos are very expensive, but it still ends up beating Intel's NUC13 extreme for price.

In fact, I would say that this NUC13 with 13.7L size is a huge disappointment, considering it uses a full
custom mobo, and uses air cooling.
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dwillmore - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

It really looks like the NUC project has ended. This is just a normal SFF PC.

I'd also like to mention that it "caters to the gamers and content creators requiring leading edge performance
and high-end discrete GPU support." How does it do that? By having a tripple width PCI-E slot? Certainly not
by having a useful IGP for those tasks. By having a very hot CPU in a tiny box? How is that helping gamers or
content creators? I could stuff a normal PC into a 19" A/V component case and have a better arguement for
supporting gamers and content creators.
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PeachNCream - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

All perfectly valid questions you're asking. I would add that "gamers and content creators" are two
meaningless classifications of people in general. Its market speak that staggering corporate zombies use
to vaguely follow dumb labels that spring up around people that are playing video games (duh, that's
everyone) or are streaming their games in the desperate hopes of becoming one of the 0.0001% of people
that earn a little bit of income doing it. Meanwhile we all can smell the stink on the terminology which has
been overused for a few years already.
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cyrusfox - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

Looking forward to the review as well as more pictures.

The design seems a bit more chonky (Blame the need to house 3 slot GPU). Would be sweet if someone
could create a custom loop water to eliminate that GPU surface area cooling required, some sort of integrated
radiator in case to bring the size back down.
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flgt - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

I actually really like this design if the power supply is integrated and you can fit a decent mid-tier discrete GPU
in it. It slots in between SFF and tower, but other SFF only have half height PCIe slots. Industrial design is
better than previous generations. Hopefully price isn’t too outrageous.

Not sure why people are saying NUC is dead. Standard NUC’s will be arriving soon enough. Offering unique
designs and having more options at different form factors, performance, and price points is good for the
customers.

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meacupla - Tuesday, November 8, 2022 - link

Looking at the pictures, it looks like the PSU is internal. I also doubt there is an external brick powerful
enough to drive a i9-13900K and RTX 3080T. I also doubt intel would go for one of those funky dual brick
designs that some DTR laptops have used in the past.
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