SLM ENGINEERS LLC RESPONSES

IN BLUE. 09-06-22

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Where is
Sample 3??
SAMPLE 3 IS A
SPECIFICATION FOR
· SURFACE
· ROUGHNESS. REFER
TO AWS D1.1
SECTION 5.14.8.3
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Does this mean, the contractor

should stop the fillet weld 1",
before reaching the CJP between
the existing and new plate?
NO. THE WELDS NEED TO STOP BEFORE THE END OF THE "Are" 5.14.8.3 Roughness Requirements. In thermal cut-
FLANGE PLATE, MEANING THAT SINCE THE JIB AND instead of ting, the equipment shall be so adjusted and manipulated
GIRDER FLANGE PLATES ARE STILL DISCONTINUOUS AT as to avoid cutting beyond (inside) the prescribed lines.
AT THEIR CONNECTION, THE WEB TO FLANGE PLATE "Is" The reference standard for evaluation of cut surfaces
WELDING SHOULD STOP 1" FROM IT.
Why is the THIS NOTE DOES NOT APPLY AT THE INTERSECTION OF THANKS shall be the surface roughness gauge included in AWS
new plate 1" THE CJP AND FILLET WELDS. C4.1-77, Criteria for Describing Oxygen-Cut Surfaces
and Oxygen Cutting Surface Roughness Gauge. The
away from roughness of thermal cut surfaces shall be evaluated by
the corner, visually comparing the cut surface to the roughness repre-
can't we sented on the roughness gauge. Surface roughness shall
be no greater than that represented by Sample 3, except
change the that for the ends of members not subject to calculated
design so stress, copes in beams with the flange thickness not ex-
that this plate ceeding 2 in [50 mm], and for materials over 4 in to 8 in
AN ALL AROUND WELD [100 mm to 200 mm] thick, surface roughness shall not
can be exceed that represented by Sample 2.
SYMBOLS IS SPECIFIED.
welded on REPETITION OF WELD
SYMBOLS IS NOT
right on the ACCEPTABLE.
corner with
No 1/4"
the plate SAMPLE 3
fillet weld
coming
here?
transversally
from the
girder?

WE HAVE TWO REASONS, ONE TECHNICAL, ONE

PRACTICAL:
1- PRACTICAL.
IN ORDER TO CUT THE EXISTING WEB PLATE, THE CUT
WILL NEED TO BE AWAY FROM THE DESIRED FINAL
LOCATION OF THE CUT LINE, THEN THE FINAL CUT LINE
IS ACHIEVED BY GRIDING. IT IS OUR OPININION THAT IT
IS A LOT EASIER FOR THE GUYS IN THE FIELD TO CUT
THE EXISTING WEB PLATE 1" FROM THE EXISTING "END
PLATE, AND GRIND AS REQUIRED TO ACHIEVED THE
SPECIFIED SURFACE ROUGHNESS OF THE PLATE
EDGE, WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT AFFECTING
THE BASE METAL OF THE "END PLATE".

2- TECHNICAL

- THERE IS MORE CHANGE TO BE AFFECTED BY Can you please

LAMELLAR TEARING IF THE NEW WEB PLATE IS CJP
WELDED TO THE FACE OF THE GIRDER "END PLATE", explain thethe exact THIS IS A PJP (PARTIAL JOINT PENETRATION) WELD.
ESPECIALLY AFTER HEATING AND GRINDING THE "END Can you please explain THE PLATE OR ANGLE NEED TO BE BEVELED AS
PLATE" DUE TO THE CUTTING PROCESS REQUIRED TO exact location of
REMOVE THE EXISTING WEB PLATE. location of this weld,
thisas
filletthe angle
and
weld?
REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE THE SPECIFIED WELD.
- IT IS OUR OPINION THAT A BUTT CJP WELDED
CONNECTION PROVIDES A CLEANER FLOW OF new plate are installed flushed on the
STRESSES IN THIS APPLICATION, COMPARED TO A "T"
CJP CONN. bottom?