EA scansmission 011 Change ‘Quaker State oll change [Competve Pring. CellTaday! Quaker State in Your Car son eh cornea eee emacs "aj BIY- Oll Change o 7 Rather 7 [sake isn ow, ons i im Ol and ol titer change... about as controversial as polties and religion. Wanne star a big argument?? Just ask @ bunch of bike riders what the best ol there land a heated “discussion” wil ensue, <> No matter what your views, though, all agree that oll the eblcod of a matercycle engine and even more sof a smal, righ revuing engine as is designed for our Dkes. With thet sai, ny oll change O1Y will include references to biases that I have acquired throughout the years, so ceal with & i you have @ problem. The end result fs the sare, ‘though. that the ol and filer gets changed of 8 regular bass, ‘There have been many oll change DIYs done, but none by 2 ninjette member, so felt was necessary to d0 ane as guide for this ste, The best gude thet Thave found for oll ‘changes for our bikes is roht in your owner's manual. if youve never read yaur owners ‘manual, spend the time to read & cover to cover... & wll explain alot that you may not know about your bike. With thet, Tbe using the oil change procedure in the manual as 9 guide fo this OW (references from the owner's handbook are in bolded print), wih Inputs ane pictures from me when feel is require, se. keep track of the work you do on your bikes... there ie @ maintenance login the back of the owner's manual that [use record ol charges/mileage. At 1913 miles, this the Sth oll ‘change the bike has seen. Ive done oifflker changes at 53, 297,528, 1008 and 1913 miles, Clean oll crucial to along lasting engine, especialy during t's eatly We. Use the proper ‘scosty as outined In your manual Most people will use 10W-40, {raise my bike up on the rear stand fora couple of reasons, but oll changes can be done with the bike 0n ts side stand, ‘Warm up the engine thoroughly and stop It. Previously, Thad done ollchanges after running the bie down the street and back or after a ide. With a water enperature gauge faced a few months back, knowing when the bie i waned i 9 8590. Here are soe of the tools you will need to change your ell an fier, Some oll iter part numbers that will workin the previeus gen and naw gen bikes. They lise the same ol iter‘Asal: SMF 101 (No longer avallable. Replaced by WIX 24941.) Carquest: CFI-8994% Emgo: 10-37500 (Includes O-rings) 10-20300 (doesn't have O-rings) Fram: cH6O12 Hastings: UFS71 Kewasav': 16099-003, aN: HN-a0? NAPA: P54941 (formerty 4541) Pert-Form: OF-0047 (former 3-501) Purolator: MLi6632 STP: SMO-12 (Once readly available, now appears to have been decontinued.) ‘Triumph: 1210032 \Vesran: SF-4004 Wax: 24941 Yamaha: 36Y-32642-00 Place an oll pan beneath the engine Remove the oll drain plug 370M socket/vrench be careful when you remove the plig that you remove the aluminum crush washer aso. the washer wil sometimes stick to the engine side. also, be careful as the ols ot, now, ro unscrew the plug whe pushing n at the same time, Ones the plug free ofthe tvesds, by push in whle you tum the plug fo remove, you prevent the oll from shooting aut and you dropping the plug in tothe pan. Instead, when the plug is ee of the engine case threads, quick pull the plug out of the way and lt the ol pour into the drain pan. Have a rag handy just in case. Remove the ol fiter mounting bolt and drop out the oll fiterReplace the oll fiter element with a new one ‘This is where gets a bt tricky the fist tine you do this. T advise having your owners manual handy for the exact seauence the parts need to be assembled when doing a iter ‘change. They have a very nice drawing in there. ‘The dropped out ol fiter element and associated parts i Replace the O-rings with new on ‘you can see the larger 0 ring around the outside portion of the plate, There is a smaller 9 fing which requires removal of that spring and washer. the smaller O rng is at the hase of the center tube... remave the spring, washer ang base Pbte. ew 0 rings should be Included with the fiter.. mine has thern with the Wik fiters I useoGbe to replace the O ring, use something to lft the o ring aut of i's groove ane replace with @ new 0-19. With the © rngs changed, we are now ready to reinstall the fiter. In the next post. Gp (te (414 [econo ism 2s, 50 20 kim ‘Apply a little engine oll to the O ring on the filter mounting bol, fit the filter cover, fon the bolt and install the spring and lat washer.ttle engine oll to the grommets on both sides of the fits ‘tum and work the fiter element into place. Be careful that the el do not slip out of place.Install the oll ter, tightening its mounting bolt to the specified torque. (14.5 ‘yibs) I wipe the face of the engine case sige clean and apply oll to the O rg, I Install the completed fker assembly and torque. i ‘After the ollhas completely drained out, Install the engine oll drain plug with a new gasket, Torque bolt to 14.5 f/bs. Fill the engine to the upper level line n the sight glass with a good qu: oll specified inthe owners manual ty engine ‘Do this with the bike sitting absolutely vertical to prevent overfiling. Bike holds ‘about 1.7-1.8 ats., but underfil it by a ittie bt, then run the bike, then top off. t's ‘est to work up to the fil mark instead of overfiling and having to take oil out. Ask ‘me how know! You do not want to run with the bike overfilled with oi. You run the risk of engine damage with an overfiled engine. Please be very careful get the oil evel between the lines In the sight glass. usually Ml mine to the upper fll mark on the sight glass. ‘The only way to get an accurate oil level reading is with the bike in an absolute vertical position. not on its sidestanoGbe Start the engine run engine fora few minutes then tum off. lt sit fora few minutes. Check the ol! level and for ol leakage. oillevel after starting the engine and tuming I off. see how much t's dropped? 1 then file the ol back up to the upper ine, started the engine fora few minutes, Stopped i and let It rest again and this was the ol evel after cong So. ‘That's wt may look a bit more complicated than realy, but take your time ane veullbe able te change your own of often and cheaply. Gam tea Mae ee Motorcycles)" 250 [atseroe sz ont ae noche caliente | Thanks for posting Kely! Soswnore Now - any suggestions to keep the ol from collecting In the underside of the cowlings when you are taking the fter aff? That really annoyed me!oghe Grp Gaia s [scents ay moe, te Cia kim oGbe uae Originally Posted by noche_callente ‘any suggestions to keep the all rom ollecting n the underside ofthe comings when you are taking the fiter off That really annoyed me! ‘ode... ve never had that problem. Do you have the bike on the rear stand when you ‘change the ol? 3) Gam tea Mae [economy 2m, 7 > a0 islanderman? Lal lad ooreylet): Ninja 2508 2008 Ue back one) ute: Originally Posted by neche_calfente 3 ‘Thanks for posting Kely! Now - any suggestions to keep the oil fram colecting ia the underside of the comings when you are taking the fiter off? That realy annayed me! ‘Lam curious. fs this bulé up found only on the Left faring? Because if is, T thought was ol from crankcase too, but l turned out to be my Repsol chain be, That thing flings everyaere ‘eit: sorry I misread your post. But never had the problem when taking off the iter housing. id you let the olf completely dain Fist fram the drain bok plug? oGhAS Gap Gaia s [one 1 ze, so a kim ute: OGbe Originally Posted by islanderman7 53 {urned out £0 be my Repsol chain abe, That thing flings everywhere, Maxima Chain Wax. QB Grp tzai"das [Bvconb> 15% 208, a0 20 islanderman? she Sexy rine Lal lad orev): Nin 2508 2008 (da ace one) quote: Originally Posted by Kk 53 Maxima Chain Wax GB Wellin that Chain Lube discussion, 1 switched over to Bel Ray Super Clean. ries on leaving a white bayer. So farts pretty good. AS soon as the that can is done TH try Faxima Chain wax because you are Ike my YODA (I can see ow green suits you). So T trust your jldgrent in most sreas, Alms allexcept for the green bikes being faster Blacks the fastest. Lai* “* oGAS Grp tzai"das [ste 1 se, a =O Vex Nice attention to detail @f Tm thinking on my next oll change Tim going to pick up hate met gallon of Rotella, Everyone seems to like and R's way cheaper then quarts of Mobil 1.ors he) oGhbs Gp Gade [te 1 se, > kim oghe 20 aot: waa Yeah, t's been working great for me. This s the second change with the synthetic and f really Hee the stuff. {know Walmart carries... hope t's stil cheap. && Grp Gailds [ost sn mow, se ia Bluevitz-RS. Motorcycles) 92 Repsol CBR oGhbs ‘Sweet, 1 can use the leftover fier I have the the Ninja in ny new CBR, Honda: 15410-426-010 or 15410-300-024 Kemosaxi: 16099-003, Gp Gade [vcore 12 208, DNA = NJD022588 Motorcycles): 09 Na 2508 oGhbe uate Original Posted by nache_¢ Thanks for posting Kelly! lente i now - any suggestions to keep the oil from colecting in the underside of the comings when you are taking the fiter off? That realy annayed me! ‘You wamed me about ths but it det happen to me while changing my oll on the side stand Something else to aed... Thad a helluv that could be because I only had a rateh ing the ol Fter mounting bot loose, but with ~6in, hance Grp Gzaids [see toe, avn kim = Quote Originally Posted by NI0022588 55 Something else t0 add... had a heluva time getting the ol fiter mounting bolt 1s ths your first ofl change? Gok could have been overtightene from the factory use 2 combination box wrench on the bolt to hold the nut securely and then give a ‘quick rap with the palm of my hand to “break” the aut loase. The extra kength of theroche ond socket to Yemove..orin We case othe olter pst nscren by nd. oghe Gap ita Mas [oseree tom 20m ort 7a noche caliente uate: itera ory): 08250, Originally Posted by NID022588 i Yeu marned me about this but & didnt happen to me while changing my allan the sie stand. Something alse to adt.. had a helluva time getting the a fiter mounting bolt lose, but that could be because I only had a ratchet with ~6in. handle We put the handle to the kis trike over it as a breaker bar - worked pretty wellto gat it off! oGbs Gap ita Midas [wanes a 208, 58H ma | NJD022588 quate: Motorcyle: 09 Nis 2508 Criginaly Posted by kim 5 1s this your Fest al change? Bolt could have been overtightened from the factory. use a combination box wrench on the bolt to hold the nut securely and then {give a quick rap withthe palm of my hand to "break" the nut loose. The extra Ibngth of the combo wrench makes Breaking the nut loose easier. Aer fs Cracked, I then use a ratchet and socket f0 remove... oF Inthe case of the ol Titer plate, Fust unscrew it by hand. ‘Yes this was the fist, a couple weeks ago. ! eventually got It off by hitting the handle of Pont: Si the small ratchet with @ hammer. 1 tried for 2 good 10-15 mnutes before that and the palm of my hand was brusea the next day. Must have been overtightened from factory. quote: Criginaly Posted by neche_callente We put the handle o the K's tre over It as a breaker bar - worked pretty well to get & off] Cr you could have ted ft to the back ofthe tree and had him get @ head stare. oGbe Gam tea Mae [pecan 5,208, cea 7 kim ute: oGhb&e Originally Posted by NID022588 Yes this was the fest, a couple weeks ago. I eventually got & off by hitting the hhandie ofthe smalls ratchet with a hammer. [tried far 2 good 10-15 minutes before that and the palm of my hand was bruised the naxt day. Must have been overtightened from factory. yeah, whichis why I suggest @ combo box wrench as they are usualy longer (mere leverage) than the regular wrenches ar ratchots. Careful ntting the ratchets wth the hammer. you could cause camage to the mechanism inside the ratchet. However, f YoU ‘are using Craftsman ratchets, nt anay. @ Gm tp M4 e [osccabs toa ow, as 7aororeyte): 09 rn 2508, oGhbs quero: (Originally Posted by kim 5) Yeah, which is why I'suggest @ combo box wrench as they are usually longer (more leverage) than the regular wrenches or ratchets. Careful hting the ‘atchets with the hammer... you could cause damage to the mechanism insite the ratchet. However, you are using Craftsman ratehets, he away” @ Haha, tre, This was just @ household ratchet that sommone donated to aur apartment ‘and'it was all had at the time, We were lucky enough to have 2 17mm socket. When 1 go back down to school, im bringing my tools with me. A set of 1/2° drive sockets with 314° ratenet. 1 stil dont own one of Ry own breaker bars though. My torque wrench tiahe el oo Gap tei [veer ism am, Pw Verus Cidere Injen cartes ama: Mtoe! ororeyte(: 98 Hones oghe ial Quick question: [sa problem to have an ol ifferent from 10W7-40? I was told by @ mechanic at @ bal Yaruna dealership T get tune-ups and such from that T should use 2OW-50, From what I'can tel i's supposed to be Better for high-RPM engines. Is that right? Gap te iMiA & [veer ion, ta = i im joGA Does it get over 109°F there? if so, you might want to consider t. Consuk your owners ‘manual forthe al that will work in your eat weather temp conditions Gap tei [vin iam tom, 72 hoafans3 rietsora member Motreveets 2008 Na oagh ‘reat Kim thanks to you and your DIV 1 just had the rost expensive oll change in the story of oil changesnt ended up costing somewhere around $400. had to buy ‘everything from stands to a cain pan. The good news fs the oll change wert just fine and wont have to pay for any of that stuff aver again! Thanks forthe wrte up! TiaD Kavasau Wile TSHR Spedal ESN Gap te iMiA & [veer ian a, ona kim al ta. consde tools an investment in future projects, so those costs wil be arortized ove the rest of your Me (or however long the toa ats). 1 eve took that purchasee over 40 years ago that I've used countless times forthe many tasks I've done ‘durag that perod. We all need to stare somewhere Be honest, now that you've done your own oll change, do you thine youll ever pay Someone else to do such a simple chore? 23 Pls, doesnt feel good knowing was doneOGbe Congrats on gettin’ er cone! 3B Gp tra Mids [Dimer ian aon, oom 7 hogfané3 Te definetly does feel good. would already be doing them on my car but i dont Feel tke ints org member am: Michael otras 2008 Na oghe getting underneath Ri ts abso nice getting to know the bke a ittle better. it rakes me a Ihtle more confidert to get a fete deeper nto the moter. by the way {hope the fst ‘couple lines got your heart going a Ietle BI figured you'd think something got screwed up bed! ‘Boa Kanasa Wa EIR Spec Eaton Gp trade [veer ian a, ose kim oGhbe 72 lol. Iwas expecting you to tel us that you Look k to the dealer forthe ot change. @ Gp tra Mids [veniam a0, on 7a maxedpenny storeys): 08 250 oghe ‘Great DIY, How often do you clean the oil screen? Would you tke me to take a few pics of the process for you to add to your ely? Gna itraMids [reer a, 007 =o kim oGhbs ‘Thanks. Please do. Ihave never cleaned my screen. @® Gna itraMids [verte 0,10 Verus Cidere ‘inj ora eertee ial “Thanks for that thik the max temp around here somenhere around 120 dearees(, {net rarey gets baa Feenng. 1 aetoly dont have an owners rol (OANG 7) 1 guess that’s She pice you pay for Being the thi nner ord baying from 9 private seer! {fan wauldot happen te have a masse Enon var o ttn oud you?ame: Miehoe! [Stneon' Sacer WM Sein ams reo S003 oreyle(s: 93 Honda need ra oGs Cup tea (442 [ven sn a9 ner ia kkim joGA Nope, no owners manual, but they are availble through the Kawasaki web se. have not checked, but 'm pretty sure the oll nfo I the service manual f you have one) Gap te iMiA & [Brechin a, sae Verus Cidere ama: Mehoe! iororeyt(s: 98 Honea oGhbs "a 1 yust checked the service manual, and it says 10W-40, Tk doesnt say anything about varances for temps. Should I exchange for 10W-40? Gap te iA © [recreate a8 ‘Sound Wave a Sotoreyte(: 08 Honda oGbe In the owner's manual, it says that 10w-40 for 14 deg to 104 dea. 2ow-50 fs for 32 deg to 104(+) deg. if t does get to below freezing at times... and over 104 deg, then maybe you should use 10W-50? Cup tee (914 [verre am narr a kkim oGhbs no. The dealer was giving you some good advice based on your local temps. Inthe owners ‘anus lt Ists @ host of aerent weights of oll and the temp range they are good for ‘the 20-50 he § recommending ae for temps above 104". Gap te iMiA & [veer ry ao, ea 70 (Ok cool Thanks for the nfo. I need to Get me one of those owners manuals! AInj ore cores ororeyte(s: 98 Honea Ol change tomorow! oghe @npiteeiMas [Dream is are 7 rick vom sine or ceed ‘riginaly Posted ay Kk 5) ‘Some al iter part numbers that wil workin the previous gen and new cen bikes. They use the same ol fiter ‘Amsol SMF 101 (No longer avaible. Replaced by WIx 24841.) CorQuest: cri-99a1 Emgo: 10-37500 (incudes O-mgs)10-20300 (doesnt have O-rings) Fram: Creo12 sane: rarek Hastings: F572 Gageor ser eee, cavay | pong: 15470-426-010 or 15410-300-024 Soe ate 1908 Sooreyle(): 08 2808 ares aabyaiue 9 aaa: 879 joGA Kawasaki: 16099-003 an 100-803 ‘NADA: PS4941 (Pormeriy 4941) Dert-Form: OF-0047 (formerly 1-501) Purolator: MLI6832 ‘STP: S§MO-12 (Once readily avaiable, now appears to have been dscantinued.) Triumph: 1210031 vesrah: sFs004 wx 24901 Yamaha: 36¥-13441-00 ‘Another one to add Hiotitro: Ho rs/cheap a4s rearsets/Motboales GP windacrech/GaNfer SS SUISSE We ipenedetatne fer Gp tea (44s [Bawa 20, atom ial kim ute: Originally Posted by paterickéos 5) “Anather one to 2d ofitra: HEAOIo@ghe ttp://mwy.nipeftro.com/17.0.hem8L Ose! vid 639 from another 250 she... use at your own rk. ‘As most cartridge-type filters are more or less the same, any of the above filters Will be of good quallty. There Is, however, one brand of fiker which several cub members DON'T recommend. That ls HiFlofltro. as reported, it takes longer for the ll pressure light to go out after starting than with other filters. One member ‘reported that at 3000 miles It started shifting funny, and the olllight stayed on Tonger than normal. His second Hi-Flo did the same thing ata litle over 2000 ‘miles. Other fiers can go many more miles without these symptoms showing Up. Gap ita Midas [Bonn 0, oie 72 paterick4o8 rinete-ora Motorcycles): "08 2508 oghe uate Criginaly Posted by Kim 52 {rom another 250 site. use at your on risk ‘As most cartridge-type fiers are more or less the same, any of the above ‘ters willbe of good quality. There I, however, one brand of fter which Several club members DON'T recommend. That ls HiFloPltr. As reported, It ‘takes longer for the oll pressure light to go out after starting than with other fitters. One member reported that at 3000 miles it started shifting funny, and the oil ight stayed on longer than normal. His second Hi-Flo did the same thing at a itle over 3000 miles. Other fters can go many more miles without these symptoms showing up. 1 see. t've heard the same thing for FRAM where people were saying not to use them tether. I gave them a chance recently due ta the convenience that Rotella T Wa soldat WatMart and they carry only Fram {iter Not sure # X mas the guy who changed (Ut them do i just B/¢ Twas already having work done on the bike) or the fiter se, but 1 seem to have a sbw leak from undemeath, TH dauble check fs just not tightened enough later on, [Fie Sip-an Tavae pan anaid shined naan ut w/ LEBe/ shogun risers) Che brakeline/ WC chipene/engine tee Gna Gaia s [Baton mo, cane 7 iki im oghe TThave read of too many problems with Fram fikers that { gave up using them many years ago. Interesting enough, 1happen £0 work forthe company that owns Fram. what does that ten you? Gmp Galas [ver n 29, once Ainkete-og ere 7 uote Criginaly Posted by Kim 52 Interesting enough, I happen to work forthe company that owns Fram. what ‘oes that tell you? what? duuude whl? FMF Sip-on/Targa heat shield/Shimmed needles/No snorkel/HIDs/Lamin-x lm /I¥otoreyte(): 06 2508 famed’ sabyanue = oghe fener cut w/ us ‘Shogun sliders/Cheap as rearsets/Hot s/naine tee tes GP windsereen/ Grp txaiidas (aston, ns, czar amas Anay an en vr etary): 08 nj 2508 aa: 329 oGbe 7 ‘So 1 went out to buy of nd a iter tosay foray ble, and I was goana change this aftemoon, but NO ONE has the gh ike. -WFFI?1? Not to mention tht no one had lala ‘oe 1OW-40 synth Ol ether, Not even Woi-mar, Twas evoged hover heard about that FRAM tsue Before, We've solely Used thelr fers for more than & decade iv al our cor and never have we once had an tute Gam tea Mae [Bona 20, cco a Snake eta corse oreyele(): 05 Sue Ns oGhbs Very nice DN post. Thanks: Gap Gaia s [Bsr nm, cis Tal kim Join ste: Now 2008 Ponte: Tae much. oghe hetbi//www coroland.com/olt-fiters html Gap ita Mas [Bt 200 ser mF Nickds7 anjte ora guru * Se do you check the oll level whi the rotor Is running withthe bike vertical? The ol fils ‘the entire sight glass when the engi Is offrunning sn the higher madle portion between the Ines, is that ok?Motorcycles) 2009 Ninja oGbe Gam tea Mae [aera aoe caso me a0 Ki im oghe engine shouldbe off. ake vertical. Grp txaiidas [Batis 2009 iooe 7a Nickds7 Motorcycles): 2008 ninja OGbe Warm or cold? | think | better run out and check... I thnk there may be too much of in my 250. ve rdden quite bi without any troubles Grp tzai"das [Bais 2007 nore 7 ki im eoghe ‘Start the engine run engine fora few minutes then tum off. let sit fora few minutes. Gap tala s [Baw 2oop soar 72 Nickds7 Motorcyle): 2009 Ninja oGhbs (Ok, looks tke im safe, Im at the top Ine. So what does overillng the motor do exactly? Gp GxpiMidas [asta 209, Pw kim 7 1 can bullé up pressure in the crankcase and lead to seal falures. It can albo froth the ol from the crank being too submersed in ol just keep it between those two Ines on theOGbe Sight glass. ‘ao, check your ol frequently unl you get a good feel on how much all your bike eats. ‘The high revving nature ofthe 250 engine car lead to the oll val dropping if you dart pay attention. Ive noticed less ol level uctuation ater I switchec to a full synthetic ol Grp tzai"das [Base 20, me 7 Nickds7 we ‘poreyte(): 2008 ninja one: 379 oGhbs “Another question, Im sure others have wondered ths too. your torque wrench only has Db neremants le best to do 14ft-bs or 1Sft-lbs? Or nekter? Gap tala s [Asti 200, ear “a8 kkim oghe ‘ther/or... Tergue wrenches are never 100% accurate anyway, s0 anything araund the ‘Spec 6 close enough. It's stil much better than doing t by “eet” @ there are instances where getting the torque accurate to a gnats assis crucial. this lent one of them Grp txaiidas [asta 20m cas smebridel1 ijt ore member Sorel: 95 BMW KS oghe “= | “Thanks for the great OY, Kelly! 1Ve always koown ol changes were no big deal, but this was the fist Ive ever done, Han, Tcoulé have saved myself so much money in the past by doing these mse ‘The only thing that worries me a Ile is that 14.5 fe. Bs feels a whole lot looser than the factory bol ci, aut since Tve got no leaks and can't loosen the bos without at least a Ittle etfor I assume Im good, Gap ita Mas [ata 200 cea 7a kkim OGbe ‘yeah, ' a great feeling saving money, but the real neat part about this & the {etsfaction that you aid and (hopefully) done right. IF fals, YoU have no one to blame but yourset. the torque vale might seem.a bx tow, but I bet with 2 few heat cycles, the next tine you go to take off thet bolt wont feel as lose, Besides, you are simpy pushing that pte up with that bot so the rubber o-ring can seal. Traditionally, you dont want to over torque or rakes things so tight that it distorts and/or sashes the seal and Keep i from doing t's hopefully your torque wrench is reasonably accurate. © Gap Gaia sNJD022588 Motorcyle): 09 Ninja 2508 ute: Originally Posted by kim 53 ve noticed less aleve! Muctuation after I switched to a ful synthetic ol Have you noticed any fuetuation on ful synthetic? 1's been about ~1300 mies since T switched to full synthetic and the ellevel hasnt dropped at al also cidnt notice any before the switch jobs Gap te (1A © manta tm ooas 72 ikki Uhe level ured to drop before the switch to ayrthatie ater the switch not otal not saying & was due to the synthetic. could have been cue to break in, but has stayed the Same since. Stil, Tkeep a close eye on the of level oma Gp tea (44s Gmaena vor rial Justanothermps [ Hey nice waite up! Heres 2 other things about well ANY of change you might find useful 1) If all you have are Wrenches to take off the bolt/éain plug, and NEED mee leverage, take another wrench (one that Is 1-2 sites near the one your using}, and FR i Into the ther one. open-end, fits Into the baxcend or vse versal (i dont have @ camera, sony ant give Pes) ‘This wil give ya more leverage to break a bok loose!toreyel(e: 2008 Kanazake oGhbs 2) b4 you try and take off the drain plug, MAKE SURE thatthe oll flICAP, Is Fuly On, ‘erewae in, Cur if you have the Cap OFF, then as yau remove the Bol/piug. tl ereate 8 “vaccau’ ane cause the Oitoo "JET out! and make things more Messy! hehe Cmte (44s avy 20 ae, osm 7a ScorpionNinja asserts er Nig 50 joGA (Oh for my First Oil change, at about 610 miles, | took my bike tao the cealer. 1 dont have a bike stand,etc at the time, as iad them tighten up the chain slack too! 1 had them use reg 10w-40 Kawasaki 4T ell Now im not a huge ballever in synth Ol... im {815 school, and every Car We ever had, reg oll changed Sk mes... ve Never had 2 Engine 40 badjete.. but, whats your guys take on syth ols for motorcycles? keep in mind, ' use my bie for getting too work, and just cruisin round town and joy Fiding! 1 DONT race tracks end such, so dont see a Synth oll needed. ‘50 If ts Best’ too use synth alls on my 250R, what mileage should | start using thery and what kinda Brand 10w-40 be Overall est? (priee,performence,ctc) ‘Thanks! Gap te (1A © [ame ra, os Tal craha eoreyt(s: 2009 na oGhbs (Great DIY, thanks. Everything worked smosthly and as described, until 1 ted using my torque wrench (set to 14.5 fs) to torque the bots. Ive torqued the ‘wheels on my car and have always heard a very postive cllckong when torque ls reacned Teen’ hear that when tightening these poke. After tightening a bt more, lot scared ‘and stopped. Im not realy sure at ths point If they are over Hightened, under tightened, 90K After starting forthe second time to as described, I noticed srake coming out from Somewhere, Sets tke burning ot but Tmnot sure I's some that I mssed from draining that is heating up around the exhaust or some kind of new leak? Gap te iA © [ane eam saat al kim what size terques wrench did you use? what Is the range of values t can handle? (on the srmke.. 'é guess you must have splashed some on the exhaust and k's just burning ff. I i continues, Td be concerned, Trace down the source of the smoke i ‘continues, omae Cmte (44s Gem eens rial xe Sistorave wrench that measures m werybs: Hest torus wrenches decor very inaccurate wnen you start approaching low values. One tine I half assed It on an Mopar engine and used my 1/2" torque wrench for 3 10 f/bs (120 inch/tbs) camshaft cap bolt land snapped the bat. Paling my 3/8" torque wrench revealed the baks were closer to 12-14 fe/Ibs. @‘pore: 2008 Ninja Bear ge sue) oGhbs [And as kim pointed out, the header runs clase to the ol fier cover and #'s easy to Splash a ee oll on there @ Gap ita Mas [Brave mn 20m ost 7] craha inj etree 2008 Na oGhbs uate: Criginaly Posted by Km 5 tuhat sige torques wrench did you use? what & the range of values it can handle? (On the smoke... Md guess you must have splashed some on the exhaust and it's {ust burning off IF & continues, Ta be concerned. Trace down the source of the ‘Emoke ir ie continues ‘The wrench is 1/2" with a step down adapter to 3/8" so I can use with my 17mm socket. The range is 10 to 150 fos. ‘Today I took the exhaust sce faring off and ran Ie for a few minutes. There was stil some ‘smoke but not as much. leven ted my alg Master Mecnanle pointer style Inib torque wrench fo check. The bolts are defitaly tight enough Now I am just woried they are way too tight. Not sure the over tightening fs causing the o-rings not ta seal, Also wondering I con see a itl of along that seam but not sure it was there to begin sith or nots No apparent dripping anywhere, Ive been using rnewspret under while running to check for eps, Gap tala s [Bane nn 200 oss ial ki im oGhbs 'A.1/2 drive wil definitely not be "senstve” enough at that low end range. I suagest @ 53/8" dnve ora 1/4" crv wrench that wll cover that range. Torque wrenches are not too accurate at the extremes of thelr stated ranges. Wipe the seam the looks wet and recheck after avtile to see t's wet again, IFAs seated propery, Ie shoulen look wet once you wipe it clean. Gap ita Mas [ne nn, 26m oso 7a craha inj Metre 2008 Nia oGhbe quote: Originally Posted by Vex (Quick oBservation: When torque values are less then 20 ft/lb. or so I suggest getting 2 3/8" torque wrench that measures ininch/bs. Most torgue wrenches Become very inaccurate when you start approaching low values. One time I halt ‘assed fon an Mopar engine and used my 1/2" tarque wrench for 310 f/bs (120 Inchjbs) camshare cap bot and snapped the bok. Paling my 3/8 torque wrench revealed the bolts were closer t0 12-14 ft/ibs. @ ‘And as kkim pointed out, the header runs close to the all fiter cover and i's easy to splash a ltte al on there @ Looks tke 1 might have to loosen and re-torque. Is there any damage | could have caused aver tightening other than snapping the bole? Gp tra Mids ame ns, 2em, oar craha 72 ute:‘eoreyte(s: 2009 nia oGbs 11/2" drive wil detmeely not be “sensitive” enough at that low end range. 1 Suggest 2 3/8" drive or @ 1/4" drive wrench that wil cover that range. Torque lwrenches are not tao accurate at the extremes of their stated ranges. Wipe the seam the loks wet and recheck after awhie (0 see ft wet again. If 1S seoled properly, it shouldn't look wet once you wie it cles. “Thanks for the advice. Looks lke I need a new torque wrench! ‘Do you think {can just loosen the filter bolt and re-tighten to appropriate torque oF do f need to start allover? 1 could probably take the oi drain bot off and quicky replace the ‘Crush washer without losing too mach all. do have an extra bottle, Any thoughts? Gp Hee (14 2 [Bane nn 20 csv 709 kim joGA If you're not leaking anything, leave things alone til your next ell change. n the meantime, get yourself an approprate torque wrench for the requied torque values. 1 own 1/2, 3/8 and 1/4 neh deve wrenches to cover most of what Ido in mw g9r99e, Gap tepid (roa ) “tee ors leo Similar Threads $15.01 Ot cnange Coupon Free Prinate Ol Change Caupons Save Up To $15 Of Ol Changes Now! 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