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Cat Lift Trucks (& Caterpillar) T50E:

No spark
This is a caterpillar T50E forklift don't know year maybe 2003 Cranks but no spark to to cap no power to coil nothing when ignition is
turned on no power to wire on positive side of coil.

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11 Sep 2014 01:57 Post a Reply
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As far as the wires, one wire gets hot when the key is in the on position, one gets (should) hot while the starter cranks (provided the
starter was wired up with the wire on the correct studs on the starter solenoid) , and one goes to the + side of the coil (and + side of
fuel lock-off). this is a switch, not so much a sender (not a resister to work a gauge). it prevents the engine from running should it
ever loose all that oil. usually there is a tee fitting and a separate 1 wire sender for a gauge if it was equipped with a gauge.
you can use an ohm meter to see which connections are a closed circuit at rest then at pressure to see where the wires go on the
switch. One should be common to both conditions, it is the one to the coil circuit. the wire that goes hot with the key switch 'on' goes
to the one that makes continuity with the common circuit when the switch has pressure, and the one from the side of the starter that
gets hot only when the starter turns, goes to the one that has continuity with the common screw when there is no pressure.

my "instant wild as guess" [WAG] would be the wire that should be connected to the starter solenoid is touching the starter or motor
and grounding out, and/or is not on the correct post for the small wires (there are 2 small wire posts, one comes from the key switch
'start' side, and pulls in the starter solenoid, and the other has power while the solenoid is pulled in, you should have the wire to the
oil pressure switch on the one that gets power -only- _while_ the solenoid is engaged.

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12 Sep 2014 11:07 Post a Reply
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edward_t
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"it's not rocket surgery"

I need to know how many wire's go to oil switch because there are 3 screws and where those wire's come from

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12 Sep 2014 08:42 Post a Reply
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the 1404 is a Caterpillar (not 'Mitsubishi') motor designation, sometimes referred to as a "Hercules" motor in other brand of forklifts
[some Daewoos had the same setup].

It is a pretty simple wire harness and does not have much in the way of bells and whistles. does the fuse blow as soon as you turn on
the key" or as soon as you put it in gear? or as soon as you turn on the lights?

Have you installed any lights or other components that run wires up the overhead guard? have you taken a 'good eyeball' to the
wires where they go into the distributor?. Those are the first places I would be checking first.

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12 Sep 2014 08:01 Post a Reply
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"it's not rocket surgery"

Need wiring diagram for oil switch and ignition

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12 Sep 2014 06:39 Post a Reply
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Brian Brown

It is a Mitsubishi 1404 engine. Just found out that fuse number 1 which is 10a is blowing when replacing it and turning ignition key on
it blows right away? Any idea what could cause this?

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12 Sep 2014 00:49 Post a Reply
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Thank you I will check that.

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11 Sep 2014 22:00 Post a Reply
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Brian Brown

if you have no 12v at coil + when key is on then you have break in wire from keyswitch to coil.

I would still check the engine oil pressure switch and see how many wires going to it, if more than 2 then check the switch and
wiring, sometimes they have ignition tied into oil pressure switch to kill engine if oil pressure drops, if switch is bad then engine will
not start.

Also open the panel on the front of the steering column and check the fuses in the fuse block there, they are bad to corrode up and
have bad connections.

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11 Sep 2014 21:11 Post a Reply
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It is a cat 4cylinder propane fuel it was driving then just stopped now no spark nothing @ coil or no 12V to wire to coil when key is on
or cranking.

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11 Sep 2014 04:09 Post a Reply
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Brian Brown

what engine is in it?

peugot 2.0 XN1P?

or cat 1404?

give us a serial number on lift dataplate if u can.

my guess though is maybe an engine oil pressure switch not working

or vacuum safety switch, worse case scenario might be a bad ignition module.

it all depends on what system is on this truck

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11 Sep 2014 03:11 Post a Reply
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