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Learning openings effectively


NotATitledPlayer

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I struggle with learning openings on Chessable even when it's supposed to help me learn openings more effectively!
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. For example, in the first few review sessions of a particular opening variation I
have no problem recalling the moves but once it's my 4th time reviewing it I tend to forget the moves. This problem is
even worse in some openings that require specific move orders and I always mess it up :(

With that said I just want to say that Chessable is a great tool as I'm still able to recall most of the variations. However I
definitely still need guidance on learning openings more effectively. Can someone offer me tips on how to learn
openings better on Chessable?


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CraftyRaf
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3 years ago *

E.g. in case of an opening book for WHITE: I create a opening book with only ca. 10% of all variations. With the help of some statistics
and excel, I pick those variations where BLACK has a high % of playing a certain move (using an online database, e.g. 365chess.com).

For Keep It Simple: 1.e4, 701 trainable variations, I created my own course with only 57 variations, which will happen most likely
according to statistics. After mastering the 57 variations, it will be a lot easier to learn 701 variations in the next step, because you will
know what is likely to happen (and thus important) and what isn't.

Go to 365chess.com. Pick e4. Now black has some responses. The likelyhood of c5 is 32% (you can calculate that). After 1... c5, 2. Nf6
is suggested in the course. Black again has several moves, e.g. 2... d6. You can calculate that the likelyhood of 2... d6, given that 2. Nf6
is on the board, is 43%. That means that the likelyhood of 1. e4 c5 2. Nf6 d6 is 32%*43% is 14%. I do this for ALL possible moves and I
stop when the % gets less than 1%.

Another stunning example: 1. e4 e5 (22%) 2. Nf3 Nc6 (76%) 3. Nc3 Nf6 (81%) 4. d4. Black can play 4... exd4 (82%, 65 variations) or 4...
Bb4 (13%, 32 variations). The likelyhood of 4... exd4 happening is 22%*76%*81%*82%=11,1%, while the likelyhood of 4... Bb4
happening is only 22%*76%*81%*13%=1,8%. Is it worth studying 32 variations that will only happen in 1,8% of your 1. e4 games? I
have summarized these 32 variations in only 1 variation, instead of 32. True, you have a problem if you don't know what to do from
here, but it will not occur very often!

I do all this with the use of the BROWSE REPERTOIRE TREE in chessable, so I don't go into the chapters. Main pitfall is when
transpositions happen, and the author didn't include certain transitions, or indicated transitions only informationally, so they are not
visible in the tree. But with the help of your 365chess.com database, you can complement the missing transitions in your own
repertoire.

Yes, this will cost a lot of time (take as a reference: 1 minute / variation in the original book, so for 1. e4 it was approx. 12 hours), but it
is worth mastering those 10% variations and only then study the whole book, because your 57 variations will happen frequently in
your games.
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IronStone
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2 years ago

https://www.chessable.com/discussion/thread/111621/learning-openings-effectively/301616/ 1/10
9/30/22, 12:25 AM Learning openings effectively - Chessable

This is great approach! But there are some cases worth to mention and consider.

Some statistically popular lines are not played anymore because of the refutation/strong move was discovered. It would be
advisable to also take under account what is trendy or played recently.

When I study the opening lines, I pay attention not only to the most frequently played moves but I also check the other important
factor: the number of statistical wins for black/white.

For example If black is statistically much better after playing the 4-th most popular move than I have to pay extra attention to it.

I also check an engine suggestions. Frequently the engine gives quite strong continuations which were not considered OTB.

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stewy0013
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3 years ago

I LOVE this idea. I can’t understand why I haven’t thought of this before.
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semisimple
3 years ago

Why am I not surprised that your profile page tells us you are a Maths addict?! ;-)

Jokes aside: This is a great suggestion! Besides for the fact that you learn precisely those lines which will occur most likely in your
actual games, you are forced to deal with the moves of your opponent (something which will often not happen if we just start sort
of blindly learning line after line in the Chessable course). Knowing what the main lines for our opponent are is already quite useful.
If we play a game and the opponent deviates from what we know, we will probably almost always realise it and also it is a good idea
to only then learn this line in our Chessable course: This feels much easier since we were forced to try to find the best moves in
unknown positions by ourselves before following the author's suggestions without thinking about them.
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Dr_Roentgen
2 years ago *

Great approach!

If you have a decent Database (like ChessBase Mega) you could go even further and reduce the data set to calculate probabilities to
the rating level you are playing in... I guess for example the highly theoretical lines in the Scotch Four Knights (stating at Variation
95) are rarely played at the class level.
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MozartRequiem
PRO
2 years ago

I was thinking of buying Keep It Simple 1.e4, but I would rather buy your 57 variation book! I don't have time for all this research
and legwork. I'm hoping Chessable will create opening courses that contain this type of distilled information.
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CraftyRaf
PRO
2 years ago

I'm currently working on an opening book that exactly does that! It will contain 500+ variants, but I cover ALL openings in great
detail, as long as 2400+ players played that opening a lot. I also provide statistics, so you could see how likely a line is.

Example 1: The Queen's Gambit Accepted (QGA) isn't played that often. I cover the whole QGA in 10 lines that are played
frequently. The deepest variation you will have to STUDY is only 6 moves deep. For students who want more, I provide a lot of
extra moves from that point in the variant itself (for the QGA the deepest line is 11 moves deep).

Example 2: The Ruy Lopez is played more frequently than the QGA, so I cover it in 28 variants. The deepest variation you will have
to STUDY is 11 moves deep. For students who want more, I provide a lot of extra moves from that point in the variant itself (for
the Ruy Lopez the deepest line is 17 moves deep).

If you master this course, you can play ALL openings AND know them by name. With the hundreds of transpositions I cover, you
know how to transpose from one opening into another. I don't chose 1 opening for you, or main line for each opening, but I give
you ALL lines that are likely to get played. With this course, ppl don't say anymore you are an "e4-player", "Nf3-player", "English
guy" or "d4-player". They don't call you the "French dude" or "Mister Italian". They stop preparing against you, because there is no
clue what opening you gonna play next! You can play everything in the depth that is needed for that opening.

Plan was to have this course available on Chessable this month, but it will become Jan/2020 or Feb/2020. But the good news is I
got another course in Dec/2019, related to my course on Checkmate Patterns!
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BaxAttacks
PRO
2 years ago

CraftyRaf I’m so encouraged by your efforts and plans here I picked up Checkmate Patterns just to say Thanks and Keep up the
good work! 😀
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IronStone
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2 years ago

Hi BaxAttack!

Checkmate Patterns is a classic, you will not regret it!

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BaxAttacks
PRO
2 years ago

Actually it was your post above that let me know he was the author; and yes the reviews were so glowing it was an easy
decision. Glad I caught that on the last day of sale :)
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IronStone
PRO
2 years ago

Hi CraftyRaf! This is great news. Encyclopedia of ALL openings (stats and transpositions) is a very interesting concept! I love your
Checkmate Patterns course! Anything coming from you is the instant buy for me!
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Hermione117
PRO
1 year ago

Yes, I know this quite late to comment, but...

Okay, first off, CraftyRaf, I think you're an amazing course author and I have your Checkmate Patterns course! I've put it in a list
of my most important courses to study :)

Anyway, now to the actual comment.

When I read this, I was filled with excitement and I immediately hoped the course would come soon so I could purchase it!!!

However... this comment is a year old, and this "encyclopedia of chess openings" still hasn't been published.

Has this course been canceled?? Is it still being worked on??


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CraftyRaf
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1 year ago *

Hi Hermione17, thanks for your comment.

The good news: I'm eagerly working on this course! Up until today, I invested about 750-800 hours in it. And still counting, I'm
at 85% right now. Every day, after work, I work 3-4 hours on it. Every weekend, all day long, week after week, month after
month... It is a lot more complicated than I thought, but it will be very cool when it is finished. I actually can't wait to study it
myself!

The bad news: I'm afraid it will not be finished in 2020, but I'm aiming for Q1 2021 right now. It will contain around 600
trainable variations. Every variation has a lot of (non-trainable) subvariations. There will be over 2.000 named variations in
total, accompanied by over 5.000 statistics.

I'm even more excited about it than with my Checkmate Patterns Manual!

Happy chess, CraftyRaf


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Hermione117
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1 year ago *

I'm so glad you're still working on it! Such a course would be a Chessable classic!!! (And I thought The Checkmate Patterns
Manual was amazing!)

Q1 2021 would be great! And it totally makes sense that it'll be coming after such a long time, since such a course will be
HUGE!!!

So many variations and statistics!!! I can't wait for it to come out!!!

I'll be eagerly waiting for it!!! And if you need beta-testers, I would be thrilled to be one!!!

I can hardly wait!!!

- Hermione117
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BaxAttacks
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2 years ago

https://www.chessable.com/discussion/thread/111621/learning-openings-effectively/301616/ 3/10
9/30/22, 12:25 AM Learning openings effectively - Chessable

I can't wait, CraftyRaf!! I love to learn about a wider range of openings so this sounds ideal. Let me know if & when you need
testers :)
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IronStone
PRO
2 years ago

Me too!
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2ndbrand
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2 years ago

Very much looking forward to this one!


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BobbyAxelrod
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1 year ago

The art of the quickstarter was born lol


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Qwerm
2 years ago

>Yes, this will cost a lot of time

FYI

https://sjeng.org/dl/pgnprune.py

https://sjeng.org/dl/pgnprune.exe

Do this fully automatically based on the lichess API. You have to export the Chessable repertoire to a PGN first, though.

I'm happy that Chessable now has started adding "Quickstarter" chapters in the courses. They fill pretty much the same need for
me. Guess we won't be getting them for most/older repertoires, though.
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JM3000
2 years ago

I use the same approach with kingbase lite database (+2000 year and +2200 rating). The main issue is that secondary openings like
pirc, modern, scandinavian and Alekhine are not well cover with this system. I think the same idea works better starting in the initial
openings positions and not in starting position.
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Geert
Staff
3 years ago *

Personally I like to combine studying with practical play.

When I'm learning an opening I set my studying to custom and I pick a few lines from each chapter to create a kind of core repertoire
first. Just the first few main lines of each chapter. I customize my study settings too, I set them much faster cycles than the Chessable
default. So, I will sometimes go through the moves up to 100 points on the first day.

I combine this with playing lots of fast time control games. Mostly unrated 3 minute blitz games on Lichess because I don't care
about my results. I care about how I hold up in practical play, and to see what is thrown at me in the opening. Every time someone
plays something I don't know yet I check that against the repertoire on Chessable and then I study that line and add it to my reps. I
also briefly analyze my games afterwards for a couple of minutes, mainly to check my move orders.

I found that, for me, this keeps the Movetrainer studying fun and interactive. And, I automatically get a little experience in the middle
games that come afterwards even though I might not play those very well initially. Eventually over time, it takes a few months, the
variations start to become second nature and the pattern recognition kicks in.

I recently tried this method to see if I could l learn a new opening quickly this way. And, for me, this totally works. I only started
studying the new Alekhine Defense course a few weeks ago. But, today I tested it in a few longer time control blitz games and I was
completely comfortable playing whatever was thrown at me at my normal blitz rating level. I stopped after about 6 games because I
wanted to get back to studying some more lines. But, the fact that I could play a completely new opening at my current blitz rating
proved to me that doing it this way works for me.

I can see that Stormfogel recommends a similar type approach but he trains by playing against the computer. I'm sure this is better
for your accuracy but I prefer playing against real human opponents because then the mistakes are more real and the types of
winning tactics more concrete, for me.
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KnightAndDay
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https://www.chessable.com/discussion/thread/111621/learning-openings-effectively/301616/ 4/10
9/30/22, 12:25 AM Learning openings effectively - Chessable

Personally I think that, below an ELO of around 2100, it's pointless to focus on opening variations. Better to learn the basic plans to
the openings, but set aside the vast majority of your study to tactics, endgames, and positional play.

Far too many beginners and intermediates fuss unnecessarily over learning lots of opening variations, not knowing that it's more of
an exercise in memorisation than learning, and won't lead to any long term concrete improvements. More likely, it will just frustrate
people more than anything else.

Unless you can understand the strategic purpose of playing those moves, it's like learning Fourier Transform maths equations
without ever having learnt calculus.

For me, I try to absorb some of the opening variations simply as a way to give me an idea of how an opening evolves towards the
middlegame for various openings, and to help me see patterns in the game(isn't chess mostly about pattern recognition?).

I 'learn' the openings on chessable in the same way that I quickly play through GM games: so that I can see patterns emerge within
various openings such as the pawn structures etc that are created. I never try to actually learn or memorise variations because it's
futile at my stage.
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Torrubirubi
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2 years ago

https://www.chessable.com/discussion/thread/111621/learning-openings-effectively/301616/ 5/10
9/30/22, 12:25 AM Learning openings effectively - Chessable

I am happy to see this discussion and honestly surprised about the quality of some of the comments below. I distributed some of my
rubies to some of the Chessablers, although I didn't read everything (no time).

I started similar discussions in a time where I was much more active in the forum. I believe that Chessable is already a great tool,
probably the best available, but it is still at the beginning, with a lot of potential for improvement.

The main problem with spaced repetition is the amount of stuff you have to review after a while. If you learn regularly you will soon
have a number of positions to review which are very hard to deal with. I began to learn with spaced repetition in the late 1980s when
I moved from Brazil to Switzerland. I wanted to improve my German and at the same time go on improving my English, so I began to
used spaced repetition to review whole sentences (with flash cards, and yes, on paper). After a while I saw that was impossible to
review everything, so I began to through away a lot of cards after 3 or 4 weeks. With languages you can do this, as you will face of the
most common words very often again when reading books or listening audiobooks, so the whole concept was okay.

Which chess it was of course different. I had problems to review lines, since often I forgot a single move in a whole line - how should I
review this specific move without going through the whole line again? Interestingly, as far as I know Chessable as a tool has the same
problem: I forget one move but have to review whole lines. In the following list of suggestions I begin therefore with this:

1. We should be able to review single moves without having to go through whole lines. Or perhaps we are ale to do this and I just do
not know? There is a Chessabler that also would love to get this alternative - he suggested it already in the forum.

2. We need a software able to generate opening books for students at different levels. Let's take a big website like chess.com (or
lichess, but just one website, as the ratings are different), and 5 or 10 minutes blitz games. I think it would be feasible to have a
software able to generate a course based on what is being played at a certain level. The idea is to make a course with something like
25 variations where you will learn the most relevant positions played at your level (let's say 800 to 1000, or 2000 to 2200, etc). I
assume that what people will play against let's say the Jobava London at the level 1200 is rather different from what is often played
by players rated 2000, right? So a software will prepare a book for you based on the author's recommendation and based on
statistics from games played at your level. Not many mainlines in a book for a 1200 rated chess.com blitz player, right? So you will not
learn things that you don't need at this level. I guess some of the horrible variations popping up in such games are even not
considered in most courses, and here is the biggest challenge for the authors. The courses they prepare are huge, as they have to
consider all the rubbish played by we patzers at the low level. On the other hand, the authors will make more money, as we have to
pay for all the courses. Everybody is winning here. I know, some people will argue that they want to learn a repertoire not for blitz but
for longer games. I guess that this will not change much, as most people (at last I do this) will play the same moves in blitz, rapid or
longer games. When you get better you pay for another course, now with additional lines, fitting to the next level. The next course
will take over the lines from the old course and add new lines. And so on, until you get your IM- or GM-title. :) The price of this
courses are lower because the courses are smaller, but the authors will definitively sell more courses because we all will get better
with the time, right?

3. And here something that I already suggested several times in the past: we need a tool able to show us those positions in a
repertoire which are similar. If you are learning here and if you are a normal human being (not a Magnus Carlsen or something like).
you are certainly making mistakes because you are mixing up lines. The thing is that Chessable was conceived as a tool showing one
diagram where you can chose one position, which is great even if you review lines on your smartphone. But my suggestion requires
that you show at least two, often more positions at the screen. You will be able to play through these positions and see where are the
differences and why they require different answers. I am not sure if it is possible to have a software to do this job - I guess it is, but I
really don't know. If a human has to do this job, I guess we can use students to collect these positions. In an ideal world we would
have even the possibility to start a video where the author (or somebody else) will explain the differences between the positions. This
would be a cool thing, but certainly not the kind of tool where you can use at your iPhone, of course.

4. We need a software to generate courses with tactics /strategic concepts based on our own games. The software will recognize all
the mistakes (you could establish now big the mistakes are, as for example bigger as 0.5 or 1) and you pay for the number of
positions you will get to review. You will have books based on games played with white and black with certain repertoires. I think this
is really a cool thing, as you will get everything from opening to endgame. I contacted Chessable once with this suggestion and they
told me that they are planing or working with this, so I hope we will here about this soon.

There are many other things to be said about the topic, as for example to go through the book slowly and try to verbalize everything
which is recommended (somebody wrote already about verbalizing things). I do this very often in books on tactics. We should of
course share our ideas in the comments to the positions. Guys, we need to discuss things in the books. I am missing this kind of
discussions. We are learning the same courses, so we should share our thoughts and doubts. Sometimes I write something about a
position where I know a lot of people have similar problems with move orders or moves which seem to be played in a position
although I don't see the need to play exactly this specific move. And nobody answer to this, some people will like more comment but
will not discuss the issue with me. I often see that I actually do the same. Sometimes I see that something is quite difficult to learn or
obscure, and when I check the comments to the position I see that other people faced the same problem and expressed great things
about the position. We are often learning blindly and have often to slow down and improve the quality of learning.
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zenpawn
PRO
2 years ago

Regarding position comments, one issue that probably keeps them from being more beneficial / seen by others is that only the 10
most recent comments are viewable from the Positions tab on a course's home page. Another is that there's no way to subscribe to
position comments the way there is for a course's Discussions.
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Torrubirubi
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2 years ago

https://www.chessable.com/discussion/thread/111621/learning-openings-effectively/301616/ 6/10
9/30/22, 12:25 AM Learning openings effectively - Chessable

You are right, with the time we improve. In some positions I got more than 60 times wrong answers. Is is useful to take the
Difficult Moves-list seriously. Probably it would be a good idea to make an own book based on such Difficult Moves.
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Chessclimb
2 years ago

I got PRO mainly for the difficult moves-feature. However, I have started to skip this one, because I am not using Chessable as
"intended". The reason is that I don't like to review whole lines, just as you have pointed out. If I miss a single move in a review,
let say at 100 points, I have to start over. This very quickly leads to an enormous overload of reviews. Very annoying. I skip the
line and start over, to not have to review the line many times again in the next week.
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Stormfogel
3 years ago

This is how I do it but it require chessbase and an account. But I think there is similar software, and Lucas chess that is free.

1. I change to custom, first with 1 hours intervall when I got too many reviews, 2 hours and so on.

2. I copy the line and paste it in chessbase, click on training window and choose openingsapp, click on autoplay to let it play out the
moves, while it does that, I check where the pieces are, where they go to. Sometimes I click on Play one side to see if I can remember
it correctly.

3. I check if there is games in the database, going through this games, trying to figure out plans, tactics. I let an engine analyse to see
what I have seen or have missed.

4. I sometimes analyse the games in Lucas chess, saving blunders, which I train in that software.

5. I use chessbase at the end of the line to play out against an engine, starting with a lower level and then going up. Analysing the
games.

6. Here on Chessable I create a course which I call workbook, in it I put tactics, manoeuvres I like to learn.

I have found it is much easier to learn openings if I get a deeper understanding what comes next.
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Geert
Staff
3 years ago

That's a very comprehensive way!


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Stormfogel
3 years ago

It sounded more when I wrote it down :)


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3 years ago

The exact phrase I was about to say on reading Stormfogel's post! :-)
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MikeWilliams
3 years ago

It just takes time. Practice and patience. Repetition is key. I've been learning openings for months and sometimes go blank on move
orders.

Learning why you make each move in each position goes a long way when facing a position you can't recall. The basic idea of what
you want to do really come in handy. 👍
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stewy0013
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3 years ago

https://www.chessable.com/discussion/thread/111621/learning-openings-effectively/301616/ 7/10
9/30/22, 12:25 AM Learning openings effectively - Chessable

I had a similar issue a few months ago while working through the (very good!) Keep it Simple: 1.d4. I would work through several
variations within one chapter and when it was time to review, I’d do ok the first time. Eventually, as I began to tackle even newer
variations, I would forget the original variations. It was incredibly frustrating. Here’s what I’ve done:

(1) Whenever I learn a new variation, I really try to read and UNDERSTAND the author’s rational for a move. The problem is that
sometimes I’ll (a) not understand why the move is good / recommended or (b) understand why the move is good, but not understand
why another move I (think I) see is not as good (if it’s a soft fail) or why it’s not good at all (if it’s marked as incorrect). Whenever I
come across one of those, I make sure that I see if the author explains things and, in the rare cases where it’s not in the text, I click
the eye-glass icon which opens up the analysis board at the spot where I’m confused and there I can try my moves and see why they
were not recommended.

(2) I changed the review frequency (which I think is only a pro feature). Now, I have a lot of time to study chess over the next few
months and so I set every single review to occur 1 hour after I learn it, regardless of how many mistakes I make. This approach, while
working for me at the moment, is probably not practical for most people. However, assuming you can change the review rate, if I
were you I would tweak it in a way that makes sense to you.

(3) I paused variations that were much too complicated, or far too long. I remember reading the following almost verbatim in the
book I was studying: “Now, this is the move that is recommended by Stockfish, but I doubt a human player would ever play this...” The
moment I read that, I clicked pause.

(4) After learning a new opening to my own satisfaction, I typically play a ton of bullet/blitz/rapid games and see what I can do. I also
analyze those games, too, in addition to see if the line I got myself into was covered in the repertoire.

(5) I cut myself some slack. It’s unlikely I’ll ever become any kind of chess master, but I can certainly improve my play. I give myself
tangible, and realistic goals, and hopefully improve. But I also recognize that I’m human, sometimes I’m busy, sometimes I’m chessed
our, etc. Give yourself a break!

In any event, I can empathize with you and hope you get yourself out of the rut!
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Parisottao
2 years ago

Every opening book should have a quick start chapter featuring the most common lines.

Anyway, you can manually go chapter per chapter selecting the 10 most common variations and pausing the others.
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Chebuster
PRO
2 years ago

Possibly also including the Short & Sweet course into the full course as a Quickstarter. In the meantime an excellent idea of pausing
the less important variations to be able to focus on the more important ones.

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jadoube
PRO
3 years ago

For some courses, I've found that only studying the "key moves" can be like being blindfolded and dumped in the middle of a forest.
Ideally I'd like to be able to always find my way out (insert Tal quote here), but it's a harder problem than I really need to solve -- I
seldom finish games I didn't start. Occasionally studying "All moves", though substantially more work, can help put the later moves
into better perspective and make them more memorable.
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quixote404
PRO
3 years ago

This thread should be a "sticky". It has some practical study ideas as opposed to rote memorization.
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johnemanuel
PRO
3 years ago

There are already some good answers in the comments, the only thing I would add is that chessable helps you identify where you
deviate quicker whereas OTB, you would just play a wrong move and play on.

The recall will improve over time, but I wouldn’t worry about it too much, and concentrate more on the opening ideas, where the
pieces ideally should go and positions that you are comfortable playing.

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Duvupov
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2 years ago

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How is your review speed? Are you ' guessing' and/or doing it very fast or do you take your time and look at the position and think
before you make your move? Slowing down could help.
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plf515
PRO
1 year ago

CraftyRaf has an amazing approach that sounds like it would work wonders.

I have a simpler approach - I'm not sure it will work wonders, but it seems to help me.

When a move becomes a really difficult move, and especially if I keep trying the same wrong move (which happens distressingly
often) then I open the analysis board and use the engine to show me why my move is wrong. Sometimes (again, distressingly often) it
will be something obvious (my move hangs a piece!) but sometimes, it will be a deeper thing and once in a while, after doing this, I
see my move is almost equivalent and might even be an "alternative" (in one such case, I wrote to the course author and he wrote
back, agreeing with me!)
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Dickchessman50
3 years ago

Well, choose the moves/openings which You are most comfortable with, build up Your personal repertoire, make them to Your style,
start to play with them (from easy to hard), and....have fun !
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lajoskutas
2 years ago

I think you can ask a partner to play games with specified move orders e.g. next to an opening book.. learn a move or opening is just
a little slice of knowledge, you need to understqnd what youre doing and why.. if opponent makes a different move youre already in
a problem cause learning only stacked moves!!!
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Torrubirubi
PRO
2 years ago

I don't know about you guys, but I have huge problems to find players interested in learning, playing a certain position, etc. Most
people want just to play. This is probably one good reason to begin to play in a chess club, finding people interesting in improving.

In tennis is somehow similar. I am more the guy interesting in improving, and this is why I got a decent club players- I won several
times the club championship, although I began to play rather late (with 20). However, in tennis I am able to find people who will
practice with me, usually weaker players.
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Bechster
PRO
2 years ago

I have a friend which I practice certain openings with sometimes, and find this very useful. We often have a theme for the training
session, like The Nimzo-Indian, French exchange, or so on. We play a few slow blitz games and switch colors. Sometimes we even
play longer time controls. Seems we´re approximately on the same rating level. You can add Bechster on chess.com if you wish.
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Torrubirubi
PRO
2 years ago

Although I am not in chess.com anymore -part of my strategy of playing more OTB and less online. I tried to have some friends
to practice together, but this didn't work for more than two or three weeks. Now I see that I should have asked students here, as
you are already the second person offering to practice together.
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Bechster
PRO
2 years ago

I see. My strategy is to play more longer time controls and less blitz, but anyway the offer still stands :-)
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Torrubirubi
PRO
2 years ago

Thanks Bechster, I will perhaps come back to you.


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