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Yansi How to design: Microwave subharmonic
mixer
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« on: February 03, 2018, 09:59:47 pm »
Posts: 3828 Hi!

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STM32, STM8, AVR, 8051 I have seen quite a lot that subharmonic diode mixers (also often called "russian mixesr" or
the "Polyakov RA3AAE mixers") are quite popular in many amateur radio construction, from
HF up to microwave bands. I am more interested in the microwave band use of this mixer, as
at HF it is quite easier to make it work as it should.

Here is what is going on:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/microwave-subharmonic-mixer-how-not-to-screw/ 1/8
I would like to ask, if you have any tips for literature or have a first hand experience building
these. Especially, I am interested in how these things are supposed to be designed to work
properly at microwave frequencies.

Supposed I want to try designing a mixer for a 9cm band (3400MHz) - which is actually what
I want to try. I have already had a go with this about two years ago, copied a design from
some "schematic collection book", but the performance was really crap, totally unusable. Now
that I have access to some proper test gear, I would like to give it a second chance.

Those lambda/4 or lambda/2 stubs are the only things straightforward I understand there.
What I am after is how to guesstimate:
1) The impedance of the transmission lines
to be used around the diodes
2) How to match these so the mixer will become as close to 50ohm as possible
on all three
ports.

The proper mixer diode pair I have available is HSMS-2822 (datasheet), which I think should
be sufficient.

Please understand this is more like an experiment, mainly out of my curiosity and to improve
some knowledge. I know that there are plenty of ready made 50ohm matched passive and
even active mixers these days, that are very easy to implement into a design.
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rfeecs Re: How to design: Microwave
subharmonic mixer
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2018, 06:40:06 pm
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Country: The typical way to design a mixer is to use a simulator. You need a harmonic balance
simulator like in Keysight ADS or NI AWR Microwave office. My experience is this gives really
good results, since the only nonlinear elements are the diodes which are very easy to model.

Even if you don't have those simulators, it may be useful to look at their app notes.
This page gives a list of app notes, but the links don't seem to work:
http://www.awrcorp.com/download-ni-awr-design-software-rfmw-circuits-mixer-application-
notes

one on harmonic mixers (obtained by googling), seems like a typical academic paper:
Here is
https://awrcorp.com/download/kb.aspx?file=appnotes/Harmonic_Mixer.pdf
You might want to look at what Marki Microwave has to say about simulation:
http://www.markimicrowave.com/blog/engineering/resources/mixer-simulations/
I have heard the free simulator QUCs has harmonic balance, but I have never used it:
http://qucs.sourceforge.net/tech/node30.html
Matching is often not that important. Many broadband mixers aren't actually matched at all
and still give relatively good performance.

Steve Maas has written a lot of books about mixer design:

http://www.nonlintec.com/books.html
In those, he outlines a method similar to harmonic balance that can be used to calculate
impedances. His books are quite academic and not too practically oriented. But just using
the simulation software is the way to go.

The other possibility if you don't want to simulate is just set up the basic mixer on the bench
and tune it by hand.

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Yansi Re: How to design: Microwave
subharmonic mixer
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Country: 00 Thank you for some valuable tips.
STM32, STM8, AVR, 8051

After reading a bit, I can kind of understand the design principles of the mixers. What I need
is at least a circuit simulator capable of simulating non linear devices, like diodes. Is there
anything free (or that could be made free) suitable for this?

To sum up for others interested in such MW mixers, what I understand the design process
should be as following:

1) Choose suitable mixing diode. Series resistance Rs and chip capacitance Cj0 are of the
main concern, 1/2*pi*Rs*Cj0 should be high enough (i.e. higher than desired frequency of
operation). I think my HSMS-2822 with its 6ohm and 0.7pF is good enough for 3.4GHz.

2) Simulate the diode mixer, just two ports with the required shunt (IF return) and open (LO
termination) stubs to obtain the impedance at LO port at LO frequency and to obtain
impedance at port 2 (RF, IF) at the IF and RF frequencies respectively.

3) match the RF, IF ports, so that IF port is open at RF frequency and RF is open at IF
frequency.

4) Preferably match also LO that it doesn't make unnecessary termination for RF and mainly
the IF frequency (conversion loss increased otherwise).

5) Convert the electrical schematic to a microstrip design, simulate and optimize it (this might
be the hardest part)

6) Call it a day.

Now the question is, what circuit simulator to use for the step 2, that I could fill in the model
of the diode. Currently, the only RF software tools available I have are a copy of unusable
Sonnet Lite and a Ansoft Designer SV, which is a free restricted (IDK how) student version I
have scored somewhere on a web. And I almost forgot RFSIM99, but this won't help, that one
can't do diodes/non-linear elements.

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Country: You can simulate a nonlinear circuit with SPICE. But for a mixer, harmonic balance is better
because your IF and RF are usually very different frequencies, so SPICE transient analysis
requires very long simulation with small time steps to cover both low and high frequencies.

Again, for something free, I suggest Qucs:

http://qucs.sourceforge.net/
It looks like here is an example of a double balanced diode mixer simulation, refer to section
6:

http://www.gunthard-kraus.de/qucsstudio/Tutorial_part%202_HB.pdf

Like I said, I've never tried Qucs myself, so no idea how well it works, but it is something to
try.

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subharmonic mixer
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Posts: 3828
Country: 00 Looks very interesting, certainly because in depth tutorials seem to be available. Will try the
STM32, STM8, AVR, 8051 QUCS. Although I would like to primarily improve my skill with LTSpice. However if the HB is
the way to go here... (I read in multiple sources that HB simulation is the proper way to do
it).

This seems promising, so far. Now I just need some spare time to play!

//EDIT: Just downloaded the QUCS. Works out of the box. Surprised, surprised...

//EDIT2: Fucking hell. That thing is not intuitive. And already found a few minor bugs. Still
chaven't figure out how to place anything else than a wire in the editor. Also can't display any
simulation results. Ugh... I should really read some tutorials.
In the intuitivity regard, hats off to the people who are behind
RFSIM99. This one is VERY nice
and simple to use.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2018, 11:50:17 pm by Yansi »
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subharmonic mixer
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Posts: 3828
Country: 00 After eating through a couple of tutorials, it is not as bad as it looked.

I have acquired a SPICE model for the HSMS-2822 diode from the Broadcom website. I need
to transfer that model to the QUCS - I am working on it now.

What I do not understand is the discrepancy between the content of the SPICE model file and
the table in the datasheet.

Here you can compare. Why are some of the parameters so different?

Code: [Select]
*SPICE model for HSMS-282x

*The parameters are for a single diode (HSMS-2820). Parameters also apply

*to the individual diodes within multiple diode configurations.

.SUBCKT hsms 1 2

DCD1 1 2 DMOD

.MODEL DMOD D(IS=4.8E-8, CJO=0.649E-12, VJ=.56, BV=26.7, IBV=10E-4

+ EG=0.69, N=1.067, RS=7.8, XTI=2, M=0.5)

.ENDS
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subharmonic mixer
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Country: 00 So instead of trying to import the SPICE, i have used a universal diode model and modified
STM32, STM8, AVR, 8051 some of the parameters according to the SPICE model.

I then tried to run my first simulation. A volt-ampere characteristic of the HSMS-2820 diode.
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subharmonic mixer
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Country: 00 So far I can do this. Used a bog standard diode model and typed in the values from the SPICE
STM32, STM8, AVR, 8051 file, that I have downloaded from Broadcom. Then I can read the port impedances using S
parameter simulation, which already is a big improvement over what I was able to do last
time I attempted such mixer.
Sure, the diode model is junk,
as it doesn't include the real component, only models the
diode's die, but better than nothing. Will try to improve it further.

Now I need to switch to the HB simulation and try to find the LO power optimum. Then start
matching the port impedances.

What characteristic impedance should the stubs have? I have never found any mention of that
in any literature. Just see people usually use rather thick traces, so the impedance definitely is
lower than 50ohm. (image below I used 50ohm for them).
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subharmonic mixer
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Country: The width of the line depends what you are using it for. For example, if you want a short
circuit quarter wave line to look like an open circuit, the bandwidth will increase for a higher
impedance narrower line. Similarly if you want an open circuit quarter wave line to look like a
short, the bandwidth will increase for a lower impedance wider line.

But there are limits on how narrow or how wide you want to go. Too narrow has more loss
and may be harder to process, too wide takes up more space and eventually will start to
"mode" where at some frequencies it is a quarter wave along the width. So it is a
compromise.

So now you are looking at small signal S-parameters. You will see the same impedances
regardless of power. You won't see any non-linear behavior unless you do harmonic balance.

I'm not sure if you can easily look at large signal S-parameters with QUCS. Those would be
defined as the ratios of the harmonic components (A1/B1, etc) for the frequency you are
interested in. For Microwave Office it is easy. Those are the S-parameters presented in the
harmonic mixer paper from the AWR site.

You might start out as a sanity check to try something easier, like a diode detector: source
driving a series diode and a load resistor. You should be able to see the rectifying action.
Then add a capacitor across the load and you should see DC voltage vary with RF power.

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subharmonic mixer
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STM32, STM8, AVR, 8051 I have experimented with RF power already, the S-parameter simulation seems to pretty
much ignore the RF power - so the sim result is nice, but more like wrong (it is wrong already,
as I have not a correct component model reflecting the packaging of the die). Exactly as you
have said.

I have briefly tried the harmonic balance, but the qucs always fails with some unknown error,
telling me I should contact the SW author.

I will try once again, but, not sure how.

Regarding the stub width - I should have probably known that. Thanks for commenting!
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subharmonic mixer
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2018, 08:01:28
pm »
Posts: 3828
Country: 00 The QUCS is starting to slowly piss me off.

One fucking hour I am trying to display an FFT. It still keeps telling me that variable RF.Vt
does not exist, yet it offers me it to be plotted to a graph. Guess what? The variable exists,
however the fucking time2freq function does not exist! I did copy that straight from a
tutorial. Meanwhile someone have decided they change it to Time2Freq (yes, case sensitive).
But it still tells me the variable does not exist instead.

The Harmonic Balance simulation seems broken beyond usability. Doesn't work with anything.
Is even ignoring my iteration count settings. Gets broken right away (won't do anything) with
placing any kind of microstrip line into the circuit.

Also, the HB simulation does not work with power source - broken too. It took me some time
to figure out I need AC voltage source, add a series resistor externally and calculate the
voltage from dBm manully. Aaaaargh!!!

//EDIT. Crap! I can't even display a spectrum of a waveform. Because it tells me the
waveform I am just displaying in a graph does not exist. I am quite disappointed with the
QUCS being not usable at all, as nothing works as it is supposed. So I will try to get my
hands on something better. Like the proper tools. ADS or AWR MO. This way I can't do
anything with it.
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subharmonic mixer
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2018, 06:01:45
pm »
Posts: 3828
Country: 00 I have finally found what I have been doing wrong. There is a BIG difference between QUCS
STM32, STM8, AVR, 8051 and QUCS Studio. These are two very different programs, although the GUI look almost
identical to the point I could not figure the difference out for a week. What a joke!!
Now I have the correct fork of the original "QUCS" named "QUCS Studio" which is exactly
what was needed the whole time.

The harmonic balance simulation is now working without any signs of issues, I have also
already produced a few interesting graphs, like for example the frequency spectrum at the RF
port and the conversion loss figure as a function of LO level.

Please mind you the simulation was done with a simplified model of the diode, I still need to
work on creating a more realistic model of the diode.

I also need to figure out how to get a port impedance at a specific frequency when using the
harmonic balance simulation. Currently I have no idea.
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biastee Re: How to design: Microwave
subharmonic mixer
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2019, 02:29:29 pm »
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Quote from: Yansi on February 05, 2018, 01:49:11 pm
After eating through a couple of tutorials, it is not as bad as it looked.

I have acquired a SPICE model for the HSMS-2822 diode from the Broadcom website. I
need to transfer that model to the QUCS - I am working on it now.

What I do not understand is the discrepancy between the content of the SPICE model file
and the table in the datasheet.

Here you can compare. Why are some of the parameters so different?

Code: [Select]
*SPICE model for HSMS-282x

*The parameters are for a single diode (HSMS-2820). Parameters also apply
*to the individual diodes within multiple diode configurations.

.SUBCKT hsms 1 2

DCD1 1 2 DMOD

.MODEL DMOD D(IS=4.8E-8, CJO=0.649E-12, VJ=.56, BV=26.7, IBV=10E-4

+ EG=0.69, N=1.067, RS=7.8, XTI=2, M=0.5)

.ENDS
Some of the parameters are different because they were measured at different times; i.e.
different wafers.

Quote from: Yansi on February 07, 2018, 04:21:57 pm
So far I can do this. Used a bog standard diode model and typed in the values from the
SPICE file, that I have downloaded from Broadcom. Then I can read the port impedances
using S parameter simulation, which already is a big improvement over what I was able to
do last time I attempted such mixer.

Sure, the diode model is junk, as it doesn't include the real component, only models the
diode's die, but better than nothing. Will try to improve it further.

You will need to put the die model inside the package model (the HSMS-282x chip is available
in different packages). See AN1156, specifically fig. 3, for idea on how to do this. AN1124
provides models for different packages.

How did the project go?

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subharmonic mixer
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2019, 10:04:25 am »
Posts: 3828 Hi and thank you for commenting. Project was scrapped, due to: a) not having access to any
Country: 00
measurement equipment to make any verification and b) not having any functional simulator
STM32, STM8, AVR, 8051 to make the harmonic-balanced (non-linear) simulation of the diode mixer. The QUCS Studio
seem to just crap out when two ports are used instead of just one.

I can't say it can't be done; diode mixers are pretty common thing, however proper tools
needs to be used and knowledge available. Unfortunately it seems I do not have neither of
those. So I better stick with HMC213 for projects and hope it will do something.

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Posts: 3828 Hi!

Here is what is going on:

Steve Maas has written a lot of books about mixer design:

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Again, for something free, I suggest Qucs:

*to the individual diodes within multiple diode configurations.

DCD1 1 2 DMOD

.MODEL DMOD D(IS=4.8E-8, CJO=0.649E-12, VJ=.56, BV=26.7, IBV=10E-4

+ EG=0.69, N=1.067, RS=7.8, XTI=2, M=0.5)

« Last Edit: February 07, 2018, 04:23:57 pm by Yansi »

I will try once again, but, not sure how.

But it still tells me the variable does not exist instead.

asdasasfasfasdf2.png (30.06 kB, 854x563 - viewed 950 times.)

After eating through a couple of tutorials, it is not as bad as it looked.

DCD1 1 2 DMOD

.MODEL DMOD D(IS=4.8E-8, CJO=0.649E-12, VJ=.56, BV=26.7, IBV=10E-4

+ EG=0.69, N=1.067, RS=7.8, XTI=2, M=0.5)

Quote from: Yansi on February 07, 2018, 04:21:57 pm

How did the project go?

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