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philsoldradios Post subject: Tektronix 2235 scope power supply problem Posted: Jul Tue 06, 2010 5:14 am
Member My Tektronix 2235 oscilloscope has developed a power supply problem. It makes a HV-like squeak about
once per second and two little LEDs on the main board blink. No trace appears, even when I press and
hold the beam find button.
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Posts: 5548 I have restored tube radios and TVs, but I don't have great equipment (or eyesight) for working on solid
Location: Woodinville WA 98072 state stuff like this. My scope skills are limited, too, but I'd like to get this working in order to finish a
tube TV project.
I downloaded the service manual (2235 lg) from http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl ... nix_-
_2235 .
Ideas? This sort of critter is not in my line and I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction.
Thanks!
Phil Nelson
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Johnnysan Post subject: Posted: Jul Tue 06, 2010 5:34 am
Member Considering its age, filter caps. Probably the one that's hardest to get at.
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philsoldradios Post subject: Posted: Jul Tue 06, 2010 6:21 am
Member I did replace two p-s electrolytics, C906, 75uf/450v, and C925, 100uf/25v, with no improvement.
Reaching the little one was a big fat pain, as you predicted.
Maybe someday I'll find a solid-state device that's easy & fun to repair. Today was not that day
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Mikeinkcmo Post subject: Posted: Jul Tue 06, 2010 12:32 pm
Member Just do the old tried and true, Check all power supplies to be sure they are OK. Then CRT supply is the
last one to verify, but be careful its probably 6KV or so. Down load this manual it will give you a little
help as well.
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MarkPalmer Post subject: Posted: Jul Tue 06, 2010 1:05 pm
Member The sound you hear and the lights are the power supply in fail-safe mode. Check 4 resistors R888-R891 in
the HV power supply, they are 510K 1/2 watt. They were a common problem in those scopes. There are
a bunch of these resistors used throughout the power supply and focus areas, apparently a bit under
rated in wattage and they might appear physically burned.
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philsoldradios Post subject: Posted: Jul Tue 06, 2010 2:59 pm
Member Thanks for the tip! I will check out those resistors when I get back to the ranch, some time later today.
Regards,
Phil
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MarkPalmer Post subject: Posted: Jul Tue 06, 2010 3:42 pm
Member Here is a good link that addresses troubleshooting 2235 switching power supply issues. The third post
down looks like it would be especially helpful:
http://www.edaboard.co.uk/tektronix-223 ... t7530.html
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philsoldradios Post subject: Posted: Jul Tue 06, 2010 11:32 pm
Member I checked resistors R888-R891 and they are fine. (This is in schematic 7, Power Supply & etc.)
I started checking diodes using the diode test function on my Fluke 115 multimeter. Four diodes (CR901-
CR904) make a bridge rectifier and they test OK. Another four diodes (CR954-CR957) test OK for the
+100V and +30V supplies.
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Posts: 5548 Six diodes tested BAD. They are CR960-CR963 making a bridge rectifier for +8.6V and -8.6V, and
Location: Woodinville WA 98072 CR967/CR970 rectifying the +5.2V supply.
Seems odd that all six of those diodes would fail. My first thought is that I'm misreading something
(although I did check things twice).
Or, would a failure somewhere else toast these? I don't want to replace them and then watch all of 'em
fail when I power up again.
I notice six electrolytics (C960-C963, C968/C970) filtering these outputs. Lacking an ESR meter, the only
way I can test those electrolytics would be by substitution (groan).
Phil
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Johnnysan Post subject: Posted: Jul Wed 07, 2010 12:36 am
Member You may need to remove those rectifiers from the circuit to test them. You can buy a decent
capacitance meter for under $60.
am If a cap is open, and not seriously leaky, you can place another cap across it for testing.
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philsoldradios Post subject: Posted: Jul Wed 07, 2010 1:13 am
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Johnnysan wrote:
You may need to remove those rectifiers from the circuit to test them. You can buy a decent
capacitance meter for under $60.

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Once the diode is out, I'd be tempted to just replace it, since the parts cost is low and it's about the
Posts: 5548 same amount of work.
Can you recommend a capacitor checker that can test caps in circuit? I have a solid state TV with dozens
of small electrolytics and it would be keen to be able to check 'em rather than shotgun everything.
Fussing with PC boards and tiny components makes me ready for the Nervous Hospital.
Phil
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MarkPalmer Post subject: Posted: Jul Wed 07, 2010 1:37 am
Member Definitely preferred to use an ESR type cap tester with the caps in the Tek's switching power supply.
There are quite a few out there that are good and in the $80 price range, and they are great for solid
state TV's that have lots of electrolytics. I've been able to get by with a B&K 810A cap tester, but would
like to get an ESR meter soon to make things easier.
That power supply in the 2235 looks to have a lot of issues from what I have read, so don't feel bad if it
takes a while to get it going again. Many seem to just be replacing parts in it until it starts to work again
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Here is someone who decided they had enough of their Tek 2235 switching power supply
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philsoldradios Post subject: Posted: Jul Wed 07, 2010 3:48 am
Member Just replacing parts until it works . . . I think they stole that clever technique from me.
I had a dream last night where my 2235 ended up looking exactly like that photo. Then I woke up and
the real nightmare began. I realized it was still downstairs, waiting to be fixed!
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philsoldradios Post subject: Posted: Jul Wed 07, 2010 3:39 pm
Member I disconnected the lead to the HV rectifier block, which makes no change. Presumably the problem is
not downstream from that point, but that still leaves most of the p-s circuitry. Where's that hammer?!?
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MarkPalmer Post subject: Posted: Jul Wed 07, 2010 4:34 pm
Member This is quoted from Jim Yanick:
"The way this PS works is that the line V is rectified and filtered, about 170VDC, and then a switching
pre-regulator(TL494/594 based) drops it to ~43VDC, then the power oscillator converts that to the
secondary voltages and HV."
A short or in some cases under-voltage condition on any of the outputs or in the pre-regulator usually
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might become shorted or open yet the other outputs often continue to function eliminating them as the
problem source.
The reason I have gethered why ESR testing is so important with the caps on switcher supplies is if they
go down much below 5% of their value or have leakage, the caps are done as far as their use for this
type of power supply.
This is why when switching supplies inside computers or other items where the switching supply is a
module the supply just gets tossed in the trash when it goes. Where you are not afforded that luxury,
you can have a long day(s) ahead of you.
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