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My Foam Built Camper
My Foam Built Camper
by Todd W Meyer
I've decided to build a hard shell camping trailer that My goal is to keep the cost (including specialty tools)
will give me the maximum amount of interior room to $3,500 or less and have the camper completed by
possible and still fit in my garage. mid July 2016 for our annual family camping trip. This
is also supposed to be a hobby project that I enjoy.
I want it to be light weight, well insulated against the
heat and cold, and I want to pack as much function OK, update - My original goal of mid-July 2016 has
and comfort into it as possible. I want to be able to come and gone. You can read about some of the
keep my camping gear right in the trailer in the issues I ran into last summer centered around
garage. When we decide to go camping it should take ordering a custom built door in the project delay
a minimal effort to load and go. section. I took several months off to fish, hunt and
spend time on other things since camping season
I don't need a bathroom or a shower, the state parks had really come and gone. I'm back and committed to
have those...but I do want to be comfortable while I'm finishing the project and enjoying the process. The
camping, especially if it happens to rain... new target date is to be done by Memorial day, 2017.
Again, thanks for hanging in there with me...
We've gone to the camper shows now for a couple of
years and all we see is over priced camping trailers UPDATE 12/01/2018 I have been dealing with some
with too much stuff crammed in to a small space. You health problems over the past 2 years and have been
can't even buy a basic floor plan without a bathroom. unable to work on the camper consistently. I'm
We could go with a pop-up, but that's not much better starting to slowly pick up the pieces and begin my
than tent camping and a good used one is $5,000+. final push to finish this summer (2019).
The decision has been made! I'm building a Foam 12/19/18 - Things are moving once again on the build.
based Teardrop inspired micro camper. see progress reports below...
That's right, I'm becoming kind of a "Foamie" or at 3/25/19 - Other than some touch up the painting is
least a "SIPs" inspired builder and this is my done...
project....
1. Finally... 1. OK, this is the under side of a 47 year old camping trailer. This is 3/4" un-treated plywood. It may have been
marine grade. But for all you people out there that say the under side needs to be... Probably not so much.
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1. OK, lets see what's under there... 1. Nice, that's what I'm after...
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1. Dry fitting my lumber. 2x3's rather than 2x4's buys me some more head 1. Primer before paint.
room.
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1. Two coats of exterior porch paint. 1. Drill press on a dolly made quick work of drilling the 10 holes and
everyone was straight up and down...
1. Note that the clearance in the front is much less than in the back. I did a lot of research on this. Believe me this 1. This is how much I added to the
is correct. Add 5 1/2" clearance over top and you are good on the wheel wells. frame in the back. Note the old
camper had the plywood hanging
out about half that much with no
support at all.
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support at all.
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1. Trailer lights rough wiring 1. The painted side goes down. Two coats of exterior porch paint. Go to
the deconstruction step and really look at the bottom side of the 47 year
old untreated plywood. This is probably overkill but better safe than
sorry...
1. Construction adhesive and ring shank nails. This thing is going to be bouncing down the road. you don't want
things coming apart.
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1. I use the double edge saw most. I use the fine tooth side. Purchased 1. Some inexpensive hand tools is all you need. Go to Harbor freight.com
both at Harbor Freight. Both saws cost about $10 ea.
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1. 11"x28" Cargo doors. $35.00 for the pair "FREE SHIPPING" 1. Kenmore 5,000 BTU - $115.00
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1. 2" foam board temporarily sitting on the assembly table 1. Material staging area
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1. A sharpie works best for 1. You'll need to support the panels when you making cuts
drawing cut lines
1. This is my go to cutting tool. I can reach all the way across the 4' board 1. Using the Warner 250 I rolled the edge of the 2" foam panel before
to make a clean cut. applying the gorilla glue. When the glue goes into the holes it creates a
glue nail the further holds the material together.
1. Buy some paver stone bricks to use as weights to hold the seams 1. The table allows me to place The cleats to hold panels tightly together during
together the gluing process. You need a table...
1. With cleats applying pressure from both sides the bricks keep the material from puckering up in the middle while 1. Final trim to get wall panel
the glue sets up. square
1. I made a 2nd. staging area for my rough walls.This is right behind the
table. Easy on easy off as needed.
I have my front and back walls all trimmed up and sprayed it on my bondo mixing board and using a
ready to finish the interior side of the walls by cutting bondo spreader l worked the material back and forth
and gluing the paneling on. until it was like peanut butter and the using the bondo
spreader l buttered the opening. To clean my bondo
Today I went to the lumber yard to purchase the rest mixing board and spreader I'll let the foam harden up
of the interior pre-finished birch paneling. $38 per and it will peal right off. I'll come back and cut and
sheet. Ouch... This is real birch not a particle board sand the foam to my desired rough opening.
For gluing the paneling to the foam walls I'm using Before installing the paneling I identified the locations
Liquid nails Paneling adhesive with a caulk gun and where l need wooden blocking so that l can attach my
adhesive applicator. The adhesive is a quick set so window shades securely. Using a hot knife for this job
be prepared to work fast. Once it was glued in place I is by far the best approach. l Cut out a 3/4" deep hole
put some weight on it to hold it down while the to receive the blocking and glued in the wood block
adhesive set up. Note: I left 2 1/8 inch offset on each flush with the wall.
side for the side walls to but into and 1 5/8 inch offset
on the bottom to clear the 2x2's. The last step in prep on the side walls before
paneling is to cut my support mini-beam pockets. I
I called again today to follow up on my windows and I made a 1 1/2' x 1 1/2" square jig block. I measure out
was told that the trim rings are finally in. I'm driving my center points and held the jig in place and traced
down next week to pick them up. A word of advice, it with a sharpie. I put the first support beam just
beware of Frank Bear and Vintage Technologies in inside the front and back wall. I measured from what
Union City, MI. My personal experience has been that would be the outside of the front wall and made my
they will tell you anything to make a sale. They have marks 2' on center. This gave me a pocket at 2', 4', 6'
been a nightmare to deal with. Update: The larger and 8' in addition to the pockets just inside the front
size trim rings that I've waited soooooo long for are so and back walls. I put both side walls on top of one
tight that they really don't even fit. I'm going to have to another and taped them together to make sure
file them down. Frank refused to do anything to nothing moved on me. I used my saw and a speed
resolve the issue or reduce the price. This just square to cut the edges of the pocket cut outs cutting
confirms what I said earlier - BEWARE. both walls at one time and making sure to cut plumb
and straight cuts. Once both side had been cut I cut
As I finish each wall I am dry fitting them to see what on a diagonal to each corner and then cut the back
needs tweaking. I then set that wall aside and move line with a knife.
on to the next. To establish and scribe the roof line I
used a long piece of 1/4 round trim I made my To panel the wall I just laid the 1st. panel over the
measurements and taped the trim in the center and at wall and lined up my bottom line and the outside edge
both ends. The trim provided the natural arc I'm then l scribed the top and cut it off with a jig saw. I dry
looking for. I just traced the trim with a sharpie, cut it fit it in place once it was cut and drew a line down the
off, and cleaned it up a bit with my palm sander. edge with a sharpie so I would know where to put the
adhesive.
Cutting out the window and cargo door rough opening
is time consuming. You have very little if any margin To install the 30 amp "electrical power in" hook up , l
for error on this. I used my saw and a dry wall knife used a 3" hole saw. l will have to wait until the
and cut well inside the lines and then worked the exterior wall is finished to install the weather tight
edges out until I had a perfect fit. I used a comb of my cover. l also had to install blocking for the cargo door
shaping tools, a long knife, and my palm sander. latches to screw into to. using the hot knife l cut out
the foam and glued in the 3/4" blocking.
After dry fitting the cargo door I needed to inset wood
on 3 sides so I can screw the cargo door in place at In final reparation of standing the walls l used Crack
trim out. I followed the same process for cutting my Shot high performance Spackle Paste to fill in any
rough openings and the gorilla glued them in place. I gaps, cracks, deep scratches, holes, etc. by filling
did the 2 sides first and after about 90 minutes I was them now l avoid having to do it when the walls are
able to reposition the wall on the table and do the top. up and its more difficult to see and work on the
defects.
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Page glue and canvas exterior finish
defects. With the glue and canvas exterior finish
Once l finished the first side wall l laid it on top of the these type of issues may show, so better safe than
other wall and traced the roof line, window, and other sorry when it comes to prep work. The spackle paste
cut outs. that just leaves the door rough opening to goes on easy and quickly with a putty knife.
measure and scribe.
To prepare the deck for wall installation I first had tol used the excess plywood to build my drawer boxes.
clean up the wheel wells by sanding off any rough 19" W x 20" D x 6 1/2" H. l had some luan left over
edges and making sure everything was flush and from another project so l used that for the bottom. I
smooth. I had a bit of a lip on the tops of both wheel glued and nailed the boxes together. Once the glue
wells that had to come off. set up good l used a 1/4" round over bit in the router
to knock the edges off the top of each drawer. I then
Next I measured and cut 2x2's to be attached around sanded each drawer inside and out with the palm
sander.
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sander.
the perimeter of the deck as a structural cleat for the
walls to but up and attach to. I then installed the 2x2's
To mount the drawers l purchased some 20" drawer
with gorilla glue and I used a 16 ga.nail gun with 2"
slides at Home Depot.
nails to fasten them in place while the glue set up.
Once the walls were complete and work on the table the wheel wells need the framing belt sanded about
had gone as far as l could take it, it was time for a dryan 1/8th of an inch in spots to bring the foam wall
fit. l assembled the walls and roof beams and duct flush with the wood. The key here is to not drive
taped it all together. This gave me a dry run, and yourself crazy trying to get everything to fit perfectly, it
helped me find trouble spots that needed tweaking. won't. The fit and finish issues can and will fixed
during the exterior final prep phase. Don't get me
l had several beam pockets that needed to be cut wrong, you want to get it very close to where it needs
down a little deaper. l purposely errored on the side of to be at dry fit, just doesn't need to be perfect.
caution when l cut them in knowing that I could
always make them deaper later. Some points around
While picking up the windows l made the mistake of Not knowing what the outcome would be on the door
ordering a custom built door from him. he was very issue the project was dead in the water. l couldn't cut
convincing that the window experience was a fluke. the door opening in the wall until l had the door issue
He convinced me that he would have my door to me resolved.
in 2 weeks. 3 1/2 weeks later l drove again 3 hours
and 40 minutes round trip only to have to reject the l finally received a refund for the door in mid August.
door due to extremely poor workmanship. He said he l've decided to just build my own door.
would have it rebuilt and shipped directly to me at no
additional cost, again 2 weeks. 3 weeks later l finally As if the door delay wasn't bad enough we had a
got him on the phone after numerous calls went un crazy heat wave that lasted for 2 weeks, which made
returned. I was told that he had just recieved the door it to hot to work on the project.
and if l wanted it l could come get it. l reminded him
that he had committed to shipping it to me a no cost
to me since l had taken a half day off work and drove
a considerable distance only to have to reject the
l began on the exterior body work by sanding the 4 You need to work it for several minutes. By working
corners by hand. Using a mask and eye protection is the foam this way it takes most of the expansion out
a must. l rounded the edge over just a bit to begin of the foam. When you apply it DO NOT apply it like
with. drywall mud where you over apply and feather it out
in a larger circle around the fill spot. Just fill your spot
I've experimented with several compounds for filling and keep it in a tight area around your fill spot. Once
holes, gaps, deap scratches, etc. DON'T use a it dries hard in 3 or 4 hours you can carefully take a
drywall joint compound with wood glue mix. I tried it. l knife to begin trimming the expanded foam away and
saw that on a foamie blogg. That might work on a then when your close sand it the rest of the way.
craft project but not for this application. The Crack
shot spackling past is great for filling the deap From here l'm using drywall compound to fill all the
scratches and other smaller stuff. The wider gaps, seams where the walls and the deck come together,
holes, etc will require spray foam. You'll nead a as well as the wheel well area, and any other
bondo mixing board and bondo tools. Go to Harbor imperfections on the exterior. Any inperfections will
Freight if you need to purchase the tools. Should be show up through the canvas and glue. l used DAP.
less than $20. The way you work the spray foam is to DryDex. It goes on pink while it's wet and it turns
spray a small pile on to the bondo mixing board then white when it's completely dry and ready to be
using a bondo spreading tool work the foam back and sanded. I've included some photo.
forth and keep wiping it off on the edge of the board.
We installed the interior trim rings for the windows. Great fit inside. It's going to be close on my final wall width as
to weather the screws reach or not.
Rather than doing the poor man's fiberglass like l had The manufacturer specs say it can take up to 48
originally planned to, l have decided to skin the hours in certain temps to really set up. l gave it the
exterior with 1/4 inch plywood which will basically extra time and had no issues.
creat a structural insulated panel aka SIPs wall. l
made this decision after completing another project After everything was solid l dry fit the windows and
using the canvas and glue over foam approach. l will cargo doors. l used a dremel to cut down any fit
highlight that project in another section to give my issues.
feedback on the subject.
The next step was to prime the wood. l used the
l used Liquid nails to glue the plywood to the foam. under layment plywood which has a very thin veneer.
With a generous amount of adhesive the plywood The primer brought out just a few trouble spots that
stays in place pretty good. l tape the edges down and will need to be addressed before moving on to paint.
used finish nails along the bottom where l had wood
to nail into. l only had one piece that gave me any
trouble and that was probably temperature related.
The glue had not set up after letting it set overnight.
I built a Foam cover to go over top of the water & glue carefully, you will see every imperfection in the
softener in my basement bar. I used scrap materials foam telegraph through the canvas. Second, there is
left over from building the walls of my camper. I felt no way possible to make straight seams. The threads
that this project would give me a good test run prior to of the cut edge of the canvas are also a real
tackling the exterior of the camper in the spring. Well challenge. In the end for me, I want my camper to
based on my experience with canvas & glue over look nice. I know that people say that you can sand
foam l decided to change the exterior of the camper out the seams, etc. Forget that, I have never seen
to 1/4 inch plywood skin over foam. The 1/4 inch anyone post a close up picture of a canvas & glue
plywood is actually 3/16 as you probably know. My project. There is a reason for that. Don't get me
reason for making the change to plywood? First, as wrong, I think l may build a deer blind using that
you can see if you've followed the construction approach, but anything that l want to look good isn't
process, trying to get the exterior walls smooth and an option. Hope this helps you...
blemish free is crazy labor intensive and in the end
probably impossible. Look at the photos of the canvas
Nice Job!
How is this holding up?
Nice Job! I'll bet it's quiet and comfortable inside with the foam and plywood combo...
I appreciate your thoroughness and the fact that you tried this technique on another project first. I'm
making a pop up camper and decided to do the lower part the way you did yours and then make
the roof so light weight with poor mans fiberglass that I can lift it by hand instead of putting a
complicated winch system in and have it sit on conduit poles. If the top doesn't look right, I can
always rebuild the top. Then I'll make foam inserts on hinges to fill the mid sections instead of
using canvas. It just needs to be big enough for one or two people tops. Just as long as the pieces
all fit inside and is low to tow, I think it will be great. I have to have mine done by the end of June. I
have access to a workshop until then. Wish me luck!! Thanks again for how thorough and careful
you were in your directions.
I commend you for all the time and effort on this proje t. It came out really nice. I was going to
make something similar until i did some.research. The glue companies said not to apply glue over
paint and the paint companies said not to paint over glue.
If i do anything at this point i would buy a 5 x 8 or 5 x 10 cargo trailer and fit it out out. They start
around $2 - $2.5 k.
Let us know how its doing after some use please.
I am currious. You use an old rusted frame that has to be reconditioned. Why not use a heavy duty
frame from harbor freight?
cost this was 200$ and then the parts and scrap would make it almost free- but then there is paint I
guess. How much is one at harbor Freight?
Those 4 X 8 frames at Harbor freight are no where near the quality of this frame and gear, and they
are much smaller too.
this is the craziest, hardest, most time consuming way to build an insulated lightweight trailer..
Sorry but this was crazy. and ridiculous. Too Many prefab materials out there to go this route.. trust
me
cost was the most important aspect of this project so labor hours didn't matter as much. why not
include a list of other options for prefab materials. That would make your comment more helpful.
I've been looking for sip panels at a reasonable price.....where are you getting them? Or are you
using another method? If so can yo it refer me to those plans...maybe you could send some photos
of your trailer. Thanks
Fantastic, step by step tutorial ! Thanks Todd.
What is the final weight of the camper? I want to build the biggest one for the size
I also would love to know your final weight. Given the vehicle I will tow with, the weight has been a
dealbreaker. Thanks I love this campef
I used liquid truck bed liner as my exterior final finish, it’s cheap ,easy to handle & quick to
install..my 3/4” ply floor was coated w/ 5 coats of bed liner that faced the road, ( buy it by the
gallon)..after I built the box body, I rolled 5 coats on outside roof & walls before I mounted door ,
Windows, power vent & roof rack. I used 2x3” wall/ceiling studs w/ 1/2” ply ext walls & ceiling,
where ply edges meet, I applied rubber tape to seal , capping with aluminum angle, my reason is
that water capilllaries thru edge joints left unprotected & unsealed, i’ve seen plywood campers built
without edge protectection (paint only) that were used & stored in the weather 100% of the
time,replaced roofs due to leaks/rot in a short time. Good build, Good Luck!
I have done many camper projects from the ground up. Currently have 2 going, one on a 5x8
chassis and the other on an 8x16 chassis. Been on them both too long, mostly because I
overdosed on insulin and took a bad fall resulting in multiple wrist surgeries to restore. I really hate
the stick frame construction because of the warping, splitting and other variations. I read every inch
As of right now it's still foam. I broke my right wrist and 2 fingers on my right hand 4 weeks ago. I
just have some final sanding and prep work to do before I can cover the exterior. I'm doing a poor-
mans-fiberglass with glue, canvas and paint. Once it's on and hardened the exterior will have a
very hard shell and be super water proof. I tried sanding with my left hand and it was a disaster. I
now have a few more divots to fill.
sorry to hear about your injury,guess you got some design time wether you wanted it or not!. I did
the roof on my campervan using a similar technique to what you are planning. I used some felt as it
stretches nicely to give a taut skin and sprayed on my polyester resin using a cheap eBay spray
gun for underbody sealant. The pressure forced the resin into the felt nicely and did not need very
much working in as the felt accepted the resin very well.
My top tip would be to carry out dummy runs on spare bits until you get what you are looking
for,too late to find out it's not working when it's on! Important to make sure foam and resin are ok
together!
Yep, I'm going to do the A/C unit cover first as a small and very manageable practice run. I'll be
using titebond II glue rather than resin. check out rowerwet on both instructables and facebook. He
has the "Poor mans fiberglass" instructable which has a lot of good information.
Just wondering about the a/c cover. Do you have vetelation for the heat and moisture to escape? I
didn't see any on the cover. Also, hope your injuries heal well.
The A/C cover will only be on during towing. I'll remove it when the unit is in use.
Oh I see. Thanks : )
Great Project! Where on Earth did you find a Hot Knife for $20? Closest I've found is $200 and it
doesn't hold a candle to the one you show!
Got the hot knife from harborfreight.com (130 Watt HD Hot Knife - $19.99) A must have tool if you
are going to be working on a foam project.
Hi Todd. Found it! Thanks! Appreciate the response!
https://www.instructables.com/contest/vanlife/
Awesome project. Thanks for sharing. Hope your bones repair quickly, look forward to the next
installments
Maybe I missed it, but what kind of roll bars are you using in case of collision/roll-over?
Same as everyone else - nothing. Most camping trailers have walls built with 1x2"s or 2x2's and
have no sheathing other than thin light weight aluminum side panels and 3/16 paneling on the
inside. The structural 2" foam wall with the 1/4" paneling glued on the inside and the glue, canvas
and painted exterior hard shell will make my walls exceptionally sturdy, very energy efficient, and
super water proof. I'm pretty sure that only vehicles that you ride in while driving would need to
worry about roll over protection...
Regarding glue and canvas exterior finish ... What kind of glue? What kind of canvas?
Canvas drop cloths purchased at Home Depot and Titebond II for the glue. See #6 "Time to gear
up" section of my project for picks, etc...
This is just an exceptional how-to. I will be coming back to this for inspiration. Can't wait to see the
final product.
Man you make good stuff!