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This programme contains
some strong language.

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From Beatlemania to Beliebers...

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- Trekkies...
- Live long and prosper.

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To Twihards.

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Behind every great success
story there's an army of fans.

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Most just want to show
their appreciation...

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You were great tonight.

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Some take it further to
prove their dedication...

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We've been here for four
days and three nights.

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But there's an elite group who
go above and beyond this...

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I'm not like a fanatic.

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I don't even have any posters on my wall.

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They push the boundaries...

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It was like watching a
rugby team running at you.

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And walk the line between keen interest

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and life-changing obsession.

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And I have it where it is
because I'm a big fan.

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But why?

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Draco Malfoy, nice to meet you, sir.

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By speaking to fans...

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Oh, Draco, you guys are great.

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Having a go myself...

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Just like having a third
member of our cosplay family.

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And talking to some friends...

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They spotted me. They knew who I was.
It felt amazing, yeah.

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Poor baby, you had to stand on a red
carpet with people cheering you.

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That must have been awful.

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I tried to get my head into
the world of the superfan.

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Yeah, I think you better turn
the camera off. Turn it off.

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My name's Tom Felton and I spent
most of my childhood on screen

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playing Draco Malfoy in
the Harry Potter films.

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Being part of such a global
phenomenon has given me

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some amazing opportunities.

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But there are some parts
of fame you don't expect

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when you sign up aged 12.

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All the "children actors"
are not children any more.

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So, take a look out there first of all.
What do you think?

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I've never seen Trafalgar Square
like this before, that's for sure.

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Yeah, thanks so much for coming down, guys.

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We really appreciate it.

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Being recognised by fans takes
a bit of getting used to...

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I know who you are.

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While most just want a quick
selfie or an autograph...

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- Is that cool?
- Yeah, bro.

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Some take their obsession much further.

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There's been occasions in the
past where I've thought,

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"Just keep walking. Don't, you know..."

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"Don't make eye contact."

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Over the years, there's one fan
I've seen far more than most.

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Her name's Tina

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and she follows me to almost
every event I attend.

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But beyond the countless
autographs and pictures

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I never really understood
what she wants from me.

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And whilst I'm sure she's
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it is a little unnerving.

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- I am a Tom Felton fan.
- Really? - In a big way.

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Big way?

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I first spotted her when I
had a press tour in Paris,

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and I noticed this woman
following me around.

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But she seemed to have quite an
obsession with me specifically.

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She's been at a lot of events ever since.

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She always seems to know where I am.

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I found out that Tom was going to be here

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and I thought it would be nice to see him.

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I'm know as a superfan.

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Why does a middle aged woman have
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back then, a teenage boy?

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He's just lovely. I just love him.

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I feel like we've built
up a fan friendship.

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Even though I'd been aware of Tina
for some time, one particular moment

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forced me to really think about
why she was always there.

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She was very sweet cos...

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she came to an event and she
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Thank you.

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To say sorry about your dog dying.

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And she waited outside for about
four hours to give that to me,

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so that slightly changed my
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she was before.

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My latest encounter with Tina
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in Central London.

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And once again, all she's
after is another autograph.
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- Can I make it out to you, Tina?
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- Just there?
- Yeah.
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But by saying hello, am I in fact
encouraging an unhealthy fixation?

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The trouble is,

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I just don't know enough about her
to understand why she does it.

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She's been following my career and
supporting me for seven years,

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and I haven't even taken 20 minutes
to have a conversation with her.

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- Enjoy tonight.
- Cheers, Tina.

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Ultimately it's being baffled because...
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absolutely confused as to why
she would want to see me.

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What does she want from me?

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There aren't many people who I can talk to

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But someone else who's
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is my onscreen adversary.

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- Scared, Potter?
- You wish.

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It's definitely a weird thing
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account for a large part of somebody
else's life who you don't know.

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And who doesn't know you
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It's kind of hard to know
what to do with that.

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And I'm also catching up
with the person who wrote

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the Harry Potter series.

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About five seconds and you
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you can feel it coming off them.

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This means something to you that's huge.

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And I don't know what that is.
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I haven't got time to find
out what your story is,

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but I think I've been aware so often
there's something massive here.

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For now I want to take some time to
find out what makes people like Tina

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dedicate so much of their
lives to their obsession.

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But before I can begin my journey

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I have a few days left filming
on my latest project.

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It still surprises me who
many Potter fans there are,

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even here in a quiet
town in southern Spain.

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Can we take a photo with you?

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My mum here, she's a huge Harry Potter fan.

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She wants to give you a hug.

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Hi. You're Tom Felton.
Just waiting for you.

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You've got it on your hand?
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Yes. Because it's a tribute
to the shirt of Rupert Grint

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in a premier of a movie.

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- Oh, yes.
- You remember?

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- He wore a T-shirt that said...
- "I love Tom Felton."

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I remember.

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I couldn't make a T-shirt,

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so I make my hand, so I love Tom Felton.

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♪ Don't know what the day is holding

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♪ When I get uptight

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♪ And I walk right into the
path of a lightning bolt... ♪

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Here we are on the set of Clavius.

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It's my last day shooting

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and we're just about to do my final scene,

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so I thought I'd give you guys a tour.

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Shit! I nearly fell over.

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That's the set we're working on.
It's going to be torn down today.

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In the meantime, we'll just enjoy
the scenery, enjoy the weather,

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enjoy my costume for the last time

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before we go on our epic mission
to find the world's superfans.

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It may well be 90 degrees, and I
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but there's something pretty cool
about being a Roman soldier.

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Cut! Good!

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It's shocking to see how
many fans he's got in Spain.

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For some strange reason they
all show up for Tom Felton.

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It's crazy. It's amazing and crazy.

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And we all scratch our heads
wondering how this is happening.

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So this is a producer's
nightmare right here.

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Tom has to be in there for a shot,
but we can't do anything right now

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because he's taking pictures with his fans.

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So this is what costs us money.

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Tom, get back on set!

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Tom, get back on set.

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That just cost us 2,000.

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Fans are what makes or breaks your movie,

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and if you have a loyal fanbase,

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they're going to be supportive
and loving no matter what.

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So without your fans we
don't have movies, period.

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If you don't have fans,
you don't have movies.

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Time to say goodbye. After 12 weeks
it almost feels like leaving family.

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It feels strange leaving
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Kevin's happy, I'm happy, so...
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Onwards and upwards.

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HE SPEAKS SPANISH

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I got to kind of get into the psyche

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and explore what it is to be a superfan

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and why fans are the way they are.

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What separates the passionate
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The time has come to start my search
for the world's most dedicated fans.

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To kick things off I've sent out a tweet.

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And judging by the number of replies

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there are quite a few fans out there.

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But one stands out from the rest.

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Hello. I'm Harry Potter himself.

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'This is Steve.

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'He calls himself the world's
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'and this clip has been viewed
almost two million times.'

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I can wear Harry Potter clothing
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without wearing the same thing twice.

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I've heard about extreme
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and it fascinates me why somebody
would make a video like this.

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A guy like this is
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Finite Incantatem.

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Getting to Steve means clocking
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as despite the quirky English
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that he's actually from the
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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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It's never stuck me as a great idea to go
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but here goes nothing.

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We are at Steve's house. The world's
biggest Harry Potter fan. Let's see.

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- How's it going, man?
- How's it going?

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Draco Malfoy, nice to meet you, sir.

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- Harry Potter, good to meet you too.
- Come on in. - Thank you.

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- Steve, Harry, what's the best...?
- Steve, please.

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- This is the basement.
- Yep.

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Basement of goodies. Wow.
This is big down here.

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Right in here.

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This is pretty a formidable collection.

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Consisting of over 1,000
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and has cost Steve over 13,000.

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This started pretty young?

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It's 15 now, 15 years of collecting.

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All my mugs from the
wizarding world right there.
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I drink out of all of them.

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- They are all active props as well?
- Absolutely.

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- I honestly didn't know a lot of this stuff existed.
- Really?

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I'm trying to take it all in, to be honest.

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Here. Is this about life-sized,
by the way, I need to ask?

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Yeah. Nearly scared the life out of me.

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Wow. I've just seen the...

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My Azkaban tattoo on the back of my neck.

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I did have a little thought when I
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that this is going to be very difficult
to have a conversation with you

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- if you answer as Harry. - Yeah.
- Spend the whole time... - Oh, God...

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- I thought we were going to have a one fight or...
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I'm totally not opposed to that.

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I'm still enough of a nerd
and a fan to be like,

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"If we can do that, that will
just make my whole day."

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'After getting over my initial
shock, I'm intrigued to find out

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'where Steve's obsession
started in the first place.'

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- I was bullied. I didn't fit in.
- For what?

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Just being the small,

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skinny nerd that liked to dance
instead of play baseball.

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What kind of age was this?

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Like, probably from the age
of 4 to the age of 12.

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The bullies, were they still around?

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Did you suddenly find new strength
to be able to cope with that?

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I did, actually. I really
identified with who Harry is.

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He went from being this skinny little
kid getting picked on to being
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the biggest badass in the wizarding world.

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Despite Steve's sense of humour

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and the obvious fun he's
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it's interesting to hear that
something as serious as bullying

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at school was the real
reason behind all of this.

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- Has this led you to being fans of any of the actors?
- No.

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To me those are just people
playing the characters I love.

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I'm glad.

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That's refreshing to hear cos I hear

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so many people like they want to be famous.

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I know I'm very lucky and I'm very
grateful to have been part of it,

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but ultimately you're just another person.

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Yeah, that's all it's been for
me cos you're just a guy.

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You take your pants off and put
them on one leg at a time,

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same way as everybody else.

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'Steve actually seems far more down
to earth than I gave him credit for.

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'But when I mentioned JK Rowling,

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'we are suddenly in much
more familiar territory.'

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If Jo Rowling walked through
the door right now,

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you would see me fanboy
out, lose it completely.

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I would be shaking, crying, freaking out.

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I went to New York City in 2006 to
see JK Rowling. She signed my arm.

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- I got it tattooed over.
- It's tattooed on you? - Yeah.

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She came to the door at
Radio City Music Hall.

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There were two crowds of people
all vying for attention,

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screaming her name, throwing
things at her for her to sign.

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I was throwing elbows.
"Get out of the way."

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"Get out of the way, dude. Just move."

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I'm pretty sure I might have
elbowed a 12-year-old in the face.

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This is what I'm here for, man.

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It went crazy. Absolutely crazy on that tour.
It was insane.

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Like, 2,000 people at a
book signing and more.

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It was unbelievable.

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I can still remember the feeling
of, "What the hell happened?"

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I consider myself to be a fanatic.

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Like, completely fanatic, completely
over the top compared to most people,

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but at the same time it's never
impacted my life negatively.

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This collection, the Harry Potter books,

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I've never driven anybody away from it.
There's never been

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a single person that's been
in my life that's been like,

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- "This is too much! I can't do it any more!"
- Yeah.

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- I don't dress like this everyday, obviously.
- You don't?

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No, sorry. Sorry, bud.

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To me being a fan is loving that song
or that movie or that book so much

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that it causes you to
do this kind of thing.

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It's a very empowering
thing that you have, man.

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The idea of this is that I just
wanted to be at Hogwarts so bad,

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so bad.

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- I just brought it to me.
- Thanks very much for having me. - Absolutely, Tom.

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Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

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No, it's been a real
treat, a real pleasure.

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Look after yourself and the collection.

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- Yep. Thank you.
- Take care. - Later, bud.

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To be honest,

283
00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,999
I made certain assumptions about
Steve after seeing his video.

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Steve! Steve! Steve!

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And his merry gang.

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But having spent some time listening
to what he had to say about

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his obsession, it actually
makes a lot of sense.

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Rather than let it rule his life,
Steve actually seems to have

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a pretty healthy perspective on things.

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It makes me wonder, maybe I shouldn't
be so hasty to judge Tina.

291
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Cos I think having an obsession with
a character in a book and things,

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that's kind of fine, but
when you're obsessed with

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somebody you don't know anything about...

294
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- Yeah.
- I think that's one thing that's an important distinction.

295
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I'm very comfortable with people
being obsessed with Harry Potter

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and being obsessed with those films.

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I'm less comfortable with
people being obsessed with me.

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Aimed at people like Steve and Tina,

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a new breed of event has
exploded in recent years.

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I'm heading to the epicentre
of modern day fan culture -

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the comic book convention.

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Ever since being in Harry Potter

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I've had the chance to
attend quite a few of these.

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Our official welcome to Tulsa.
All visitors welcome.

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From humble beginnings in the 1970s,

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as a place for comic book enthusiasts
to compare collections...

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Comic Con has morphed
into a multibillion dollar
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worldwide phenomenon.

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Attracting millions of fans of
film and sci-fi franchises,

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most of whom like dear old Steve
enjoy a spot of dressing up.

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Yep. Down here. 12 o'clock.

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What's happening here? There's
a costume malfunction.

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Two days ago I was dressed
as a Roman soldier,

314
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and that felt completely
cool and fine and normal,

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but if you ask me to wear
that now over there,

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I'd be too embarrassed to do it.

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I am slightly nervous about
walking into the lion's den.

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In a place like this I do get recognised.

319
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It is called Wizard World after all.

320
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Are you Tom Felton?

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Can I please get your picture, please?

322
00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,839
And it's not always just a
selfie they're after...

323
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She was hoping to propose.

324
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- To me?
- Yeah.
- Oh, no.

325
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'..Which can be a little awkward.'

326
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This is an engagement ring?

327
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I'm not sure if I can fully accept it,

328
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but I will happily take it as a
memento of our time together.

329
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,799
- Is that OK?
- Yes. - All right.

330
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,959
I'm feeling a little bit under
the magnifying glass here.

331
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,599
Although I've been to conventions before,

332
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I've never understood why
so many people choose

333
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to spend their weekends dressed
up as comic book characters.

334
00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,879
I don't think it's that weird
to want to dress as something

335
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that you like or meet
people that like it too.

336
00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,519
I'm not like a fanatic. I don't
even have any posters on my wall.

337
00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,360
I'm king of the barbarians.
Self-proclaimed and undisputed.

338
00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,999
But there's no denying their dedication.

339
00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,679
And we do get the chance to
see a lot of happy fans.

340
00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,319
It means a lot to me that
it means this much to you.

341
00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,039
It must be kind of strange, I suppose,
seeing someone that you kind of...

342
00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,999
Yeah. It's weird seeing you cos
it's like you've been on screen

343
00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,719
so many times, even in Planet Of The Apes.

344
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I'm trying to figure out
what that feels like,

345
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,319
- trying to realise what that is.
- Amazing.

346
00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,799
I've met William Shatner
before, so I've seen him.
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- I'm a Dean Cain fan.
- How big a fan? - Big fan.

348
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,319
One of the draws of these conventions is

349
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a chance for fans to meet
their favourite actors.

350
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And the celebrities they're so keen
to meet can seem to have it all.

351
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But the reality is perhaps not
as glamorous as the fantasy.

352
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The green room is where the stars of today

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and yesterday come together.

354
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This is where all the
guests come and kick back,

355
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,479
get a bit of free food and free coffee.

356
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,959
I'm not that knowledgeable
of many of the sci-fi world,

357
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but over in the table next to us
we have Dean Cain, the Superman.

358
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,239
Who else is there?

359
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,439
Corey Feldman was around a while ago.

360
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,079
We have The Hulk, Captain Kirk

361
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,959
and Freddy Krueger all dining
together, which is pretty cool.

362
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,719
Apparently it's Lou
Ferrigno's birthday today

363
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,079
and they're going to bring him in a cake,

364
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,839
so we're all going to sing
happy birthday to The Hulk.

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Just another Saturday in Tulsa.

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ALL: ♪ Happy birthday to you

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♪ Happy birthday to you. ♪

368
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Hulk!

369
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,359
That was an interesting insight.

370
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,319
It's not everyday you get
to see Hulk's birthday.

371
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,279
I think we were hoping that
he would do the Hulk Smash.

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00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,319
A room full of science fiction
heroes seems a good place to

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00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,199
put my interview skills to the test.

374
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,839
All right, let's do it.

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00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,559
And who better to try them on
than the king of conventions -

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Captain Kirk.

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00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,559
- Hey, William. How you doing?
- All well. You?

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00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,039
Captain, this ship is
now under my direction.

379
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,639
Do you still enjoy meeting the fans?

380
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,439
- Do you still get a kick out of coming to these things?
- Absolutely.

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00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,959
You find out what they
want, what they're doing.

382
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,439
Gives you a chance to tell
them what you're doing.

383
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,159
And are they actually interested
in that or do they just want to

384
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,799
relive the... the kind of
Captain Kirk highlight moments?

385
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,999
Are they interested in what I have to say?

386
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,799
It's an interesting question.

387
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,719
- Are you interested in what I have to say?
- Absolutely.

388
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,119
How do I know that?

389
00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,959
Well, that's why I came
over to come and ask.

390
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,159
There you are. So I don't
know why they've come over.

391
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,199
OK. Do you enjoy going there?
Still a fun thing?

392
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,079
You must travel a lot with these.

393
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,839
I've seen you at a lot of these
things over the weekends.

394
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,879
This year I've gone to quite a few.

395
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,519
- How many are we talking about?
- I don't know. Three or four. - OK.

396
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,359
That's cool. How many years
have you been doing this now?

397
00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:04,839
- About three or four.
- OK.

398
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,479
I am completely flustered.

399
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,239
Did you not see that? I just sat
down and had nothing to ask him.

400
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,759
I started shaking. That
felt so uncomfortable.

401
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,639
Every question that I've been
wanting to ask him and people like

402
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,959
him for the last... year or two years
just went completely out of my head.

403
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,919
I don't even know what I asked him.

404
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,879
I said Captain Kirk three times,
and I've never seen Star Trek.

405
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,560
So embarrassing.

406
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,039
Right now it's meet and greet time.

407
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,759
First up, a few pictures.

408
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,040
Ready. Next, please.

409
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,079
About to go and do the Q&A
panel to a few excited fans.

410
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,879
- ANNOUNCER:
- Tom Felton!

411
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,240
CHEERS

412
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,359
I'm always a little
nervous at these things.

413
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:10,560
The fans can often put you through
some pretty intense questioning.
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00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,559
Nothing quite beats the
feeling of wind in your hair

415
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,799
and flying around in your broomstick.

416
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,559
- GIRL: - Thank you.
- Thank you, lovely.

417
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,919
It took me about six years to
muster the courage to say anything

418
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,079
more than, "Morning, Ralph," to him.

419
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,880
I always thought I'd make
a rather good Hermione.

420
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,199
And then to signing some autographs.

421
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,239
Awesome. So I'll be up
there staring down at you.

422
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,759
- Yeah. There you go.
- All right.

423
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,119
OK, cool. Keep up the good work.
I like your T-shirt.

424
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:54,879
That's pretty awesome.

425
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,639
'It's humbling to see how
much a brief encounter

426
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'can mean to some people.'
427
00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,479
- She stayed there.
- She stayed there to keep an eye on you?

428
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,039
- Some Gryffindors did not trust us.
- That's funny. Thanks, Tammy. - Thank you.

429
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,879
Normally they tell you where they're from

430
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,959
or maybe their favourite
thing about the films.

431
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,359
How you doing, Rebecca?

432
00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:12,519
'But occasionally you hear
more unusual things.'

433
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,479
My sister wanted me to give you
this in hopes of you giving it to.

434
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,839
Niall from One Direction.

435
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,959
To give it to Niall from One Direction?

436
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,159
- I feel like I just had to try.
- Yep.

437
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,439
Twitter, Instagram and cell number.

438
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,599
- Actually, I should have added mine too.
- That's pretty special.

439
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,399
And some fans want to share really
personal things with you too.

440
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,039
One girl I signed a picture for told me

441
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,559
that her love of Harry Potter had
helped her recover from depression.

442
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,520
- I try not to.
- That's OK.

443
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,519
All the actors in Harry
Potter are so inspiring.

444
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,599
I just wish I could tell him

445
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,199
thank you for dedicating his
whole self to the character.

446
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,079
It's pretty difficult to know how to react

447
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,599
when you hear something like this.

448
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,719
But could an interest or
obsession in a fantasy world

449
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,000
really help a mental health condition?

450
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,719
Sadly, it's not the first time a fan
has told me something like this.

451
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,519
But I was struck by how genuinely
moved Jade seemed when we met.

452
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,599
I want to find out how a series of books

453
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,439
and films has had such
an impact on her life.

454
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,159
- Hello.
- Hi! Hi, Tom!

455
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,159
- Welcome. How are you?
- I'm very good. - Oh, my God!

456
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,560
Hey, pup! Aw! Beautiful.

457
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,999
- How old is she?
- She's five months.

458
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,519
She's still a puppy.

459
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,359
This is Helga. Helga Hufflepuff.

460
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,039
- Helga Hufflepuff? - Yeah.
- You named her after her.

461
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,039
Were you a fan of anything
growing up before Harry Potter

462
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,519
came along or was that kind of
the start of lots of things?

463
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,239
The start of major fandom for sure.

464
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,479
And I've never been as fangirlish
about anything else except.

465
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,159
Harry Potter.

466
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,519
Everybody when they found this out
they were just like, "Oh, my God."
467
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,719
"Jade, I can't believe it."

468
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,719
To put in a nutshell about what being a fan

469
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,439
has brought to your life.

470
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,359
You were in a bit of a dark place

471
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,559
and Harry Potter kind of
really helped you get out.

472
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,119
It really did. Depression
is just so unfortunate too

473
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:15,079
because it has such a
stigma attached to it.

474
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,439
I think a lot of people who are
depressed or are ashamed to

475
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,919
talk about it as well cos people
might think, "What's wrong with you?"

476
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,199
"Can't you just snap out of it?
Can't you just get it together?"

477
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,599
I think sometimes when you're
feeling so low like that,

478
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,479
it really is hard to just see
any kind of light or anything,

479
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,079
and I just never read such
an accurate description
480
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,639
of what it feels like.

481
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,479
Like, the Dementors were sucking
the life out of you, basically.

482
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,039
You see, that's a good
analogy for the Dementors

483
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,360
being kind of like a
physical form of depression.

484
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,359
I never realised that
something like the Dementors

485
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,079
could be taken so literally.

486
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,479
It's hard to imagine that
people watching those scenes

487
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,599
can be so deeply affected.

488
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,959
I just remember thinking
that I feel this way

489
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,639
and I don't want to feel this way
any more, and I hated feeling it.

490
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,639
Harry Potter, the whole story,
it just really motivated me

491
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:20,879
to make a change and try to get
help and do something about it.

492
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,239
And I'm just so thankful because
it was the light that showed me

493
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,759
to keep trying, basically.

494
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,439
You know, there's so many funny
parts when you're reading it

495
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,919
and you're like,

496
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,919
"Ron. Oh, Draco, you guys are great."

497
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,519
And then you get to escape
into the world with them

498
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,759
and not think about your problems.

499
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,599
And I think that's probably one
of the most effective things

500
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,279
that help depression.

501
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,799
'I think she's right at the top
end of the positivity scale.

502
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,079
'Clearly she went through a really
dark time and I never realised

503
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,639
'that something like Harry Potter
can lift someone out of that.

504
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,919
'But you can see how emotional
she was getting just

505
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,119
'kind of talking about those times.'
506
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,399
It's interesting cos I hear
about how it moves them

507
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,599
so much and how much it's
kind of changed their lives,

508
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,719
but actually to hear their
story, it's really moving stuff.

509
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,799
There's always a danger that you think,

510
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,519
"I am the only one who suffered this."

511
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,439
- And that's a dangerous place to be.
- Right. - Or, "I am a freak."

512
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,639
"No-one else has ever felt like this."

513
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,639
And that's something that
literature or any form or art,

514
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,759
it's one of its most powerful
effects is to tell everyone,

515
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,519
"No, you are not alone."

516
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,800
And whenever someone tells me
that that helped them or...

517
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,000
just got them through something...

518
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,120
it's the most gratifying
thing ever, isn't it?

519
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,279
Hearing how much Jade's life has
been influenced by Harry Potter

520
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,439
makes me think about the extent
to which my superfan Tina's life

521
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,279
has been affected by following me.

522
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,959
What could she be getting out
of spending all those hours

523
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,719
waiting for my autograph?

524
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,999
And waiting for celebrities
is something the next fan

525
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,319
on my list knows a thing or two about.

526
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,279
I'm on the trail of autograph
hunter extraordinaire,

527
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,559
20-year-old New Yorker Brian Pechar,

528
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,319
who's so prolific that from Dan alone

529
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,559
he's already amassed over a 100
selfies and 250 signed items.

530
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,479
Brian's one of those people
that you can't underestimate.

531
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,999
When you first meet Brian,
you're meeting him outside

532
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,599
- and it's very rushed and he's asking you for pictures.
- Yeah.

533
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,479
Brian is somebody who has
turned what is essentially

534
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,840
his hobby into his profession.

535
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,759
I'm on New York's Broadway,
the centre of theatreland.

536
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,319
It's wall-to-wall with celebrities,
including my dear friend Rupert.

537
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,919
I hate theatre people!

538
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,279
This makes it a happy
hunting ground for Brian

539
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,279
and his fellow celeb spotters.

540
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,159
But Brian has set himself
apart by publishing two books

541
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,319
about his encounters with the stars.

542
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,559
Like Tina who's got hundreds
of signed photos of me,

543
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,599
Brian repeatedly collects the same
autographs from the same stars.

544
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,919
He doesn't sell them, he doesn't need them,

545
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,959
but he definitely wants them.
546
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,239
And I'm curious to know why.

547
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,039
I want to see how much effort
he goes to in getting that

548
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,959
moment with a celebrity and
exactly what it means to him.

549
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,559
- Brian. - Tom, so nice to meet you.
- How are you? - Oh, my God!

550
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,559
- I'm a big fan of yours.
- Thanks very much for agreeing to...

551
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,919
- This is so exciting.
- ..To help us to tonight.

552
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,319
'Brian's enthusiasm for the night
ahead is immediately obvious.'

553
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,919
Maybe Nick Jonas, Sam Smith
and a few other people.

554
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,800
Fantastic. Let's do it.

555
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,519
Thank you for this opportunity.
I'm so appreciative of it.

556
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,839
Thanks for your help.

557
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,279
When was the first time you
came out trying to meet people,

558
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,999
or trying to get some autographs?
559
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,359
I think the first one was Hugh Jackman.

560
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,159
He was at the... What was he at?

561
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,999
A talk show and he took a picture with me.

562
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,359
And then it was my goal to meet Dan
because he was my favourite actor.

563
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,639
Why Dan?

564
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,199
Because I just loved the
Harry Potter films.

565
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,799
I usually only went for people
that I had a lot of caring for.

566
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,120
But if you were on Broadway, I'd
probably be there often too.

567
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,719
Given that Rupert and I do
attract a similar crowd,

568
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,799
Brian thinks I should adopt a
disguise to throw any Potter fans

569
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,639
off the scent and to make
sure Rupert treats me

570
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,080
like any other waiting fan.
It's a good start.

571
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,320
I think the blonde just gives you away.
572
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,239
That works.

573
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,199
- All right, man.
- We're off. - We did it.

574
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,639
- AMERICAN ACCENT:
- Bob Schmidt is in New York City!

575
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,479
My first time.

576
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,799
He's gone all country
on me for some reason.

577
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360
We gotta remember he's from California.

578
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,519
First stop of the night
is the VH1 Music Awards.

579
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,199
We've got to wait over here

580
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,839
and the cars are going to drop
off the people right there.

581
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,919
It staggers me how prepared Brian
is for any celebrity eventuality.

582
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,359
You have these lined out
ready just in case...?

583
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,359
- Just in case. - Cool.
- We have Kevin Jonas right there.

584
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,919
We have Nick Jonas right there.
Hopefully he'll sign.
585
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,519
- I have to get those are ready to go.
- Who the hell is THAT guy?

586
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,959
- I don't know who that is. You know who that is?
- Unrecognisable.

587
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,119
I've heard he's a real asshole. He
doesn't sign any pictures at all.

588
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,679
- So don't ask for him, man.
- Yeah, I heard he's pretty bad.

589
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,999
He is an asshole. He is the
toughest one to get, man.

590
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,919
What is our number one target tonight?

591
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,279
- Maybe Nick Jonas.
- OK, that's at this location.

592
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,079
- Then we'll move on and try to find...
- Rupert Grint. - Rupert Grint.

593
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,439
Let's remember why we are here, man.
That's what I came for. - Exactly.

594
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,759
- We've got to get to Rupert.
- Got to get Rupert, dude.

595
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,399
Well, to understand the
superfan, you've got to

596
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,039
live like a superfan,
breathe like a superfan...

597
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,879
- How are you feeling about it?
- I'm anxious and I'm excited, man.

598
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,360
I don't know what to expect, to be honest.

599
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,079
Even thought it's freezing,
Brian's constant smile

600
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,559
and enthusiasm are beginning
to rub off on me.

601
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,759
He's keen and I'm starting to get
an insight into how he operates.

602
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,359
- You check the Twitter accounts, all the accounts?
- Yeah.

603
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,639
I follow them all. I
looked to see and then...

604
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,959
- Is that the best way to keep track on who's who?
- I think so.

605
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,159
He even recognises the
car registration plates

606
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,399
of some of his favourite targets.

607
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,919
He's operating like the
professional paparazzi.

608
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,800
The only difference is
he's not getting paid.

609
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,439
Brian thinks he's spotted
our first celebrity.
610
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,879
Can I get a photo of you?

611
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,159
But there's a surprising revelation.

612
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,959
Even though we didn't know who she
was, you still wanted a picture?

613
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,079
- Yeah! Why not? Just have fun with it.
- OK.

614
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,079
I think that was Nick Jonas right there.
We think we've got Nick Jonas.

615
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:41,919
We've just got to see who it is and then walk over.
Let's see who it is.

616
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,279
Brian is a huge Nick Jonas fan,

617
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,759
and even though I'm not, I can
sense his excitement building.

618
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,600
I'll ruin our chances here, man.

619
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,039
Then an umbrella appears

620
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,079
and Brian is convinced that
it conceals Nick Jonas.

621
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,999
Nick, what's up, bro?

622
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,319
Nick! Are you into this photo?

623
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,959
But this time he gets a knock-back
624
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,759
and it hits me that after two
hours of waiting for his idol,

625
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,719
he gets completely ignored.

626
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,199
- I hope.
- I - haven't done that.

627
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,799
The atmosphere changes
when security gets heavy.

628
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,479
- Down over here, please. - OK.
- I'm not going to ask you guys again.

629
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,559
You're getting on my nerves now.

630
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,719
- Where do you want me to go?
- Back there. - All right.

631
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,119
If you are shooting as we come out
of the show you need a permit.

632
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,039
So you need to step up here.

633
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,359
But neither heavy rain or
the threat from security

634
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,559
can dampen Brian's spirit.

635
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,839
Then they threaten to call the police.

636
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,960
Uh-oh.

637
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,440
So we move on to the main
target of the night.

638
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,679
And after our failed attempts so far,

639
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,599
I'm really hoping that Rupert
will stop for his fans.

640
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,520
The waiting game commences.

641
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,999
But I get the feeling that my
disguise is starting to fail.

642
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,999
I know you!

643
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,720
Shhh!

644
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,999
- We are so excited to meet Rupert Grint today.
- We are.

645
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,039
This is a first-time
experience for both of us.

646
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,359
- How many times have you met Rupert?
- Five or six. - Five or six times. OK.

647
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,919
One guy we've got to meet
is Daniel Radcliffe.

648
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,319
- He's next.
- He's never met Daniel Radcliffe.

649
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,639
- I hear he's a nice guy.
- Yeah.

650
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,919
- Emma Watson not so much.
- Not so much? - HE LAUGHS.

651
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,799
Suddenly it's on.

652
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,159
CROWD SHOUTS: Rupert!

653
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,839
Rupert heads straight for
Brian but, unfortunately,

654
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,599
sees right through my shoddy disguise.

655
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,359
- You read my book?
- Yeah, I bought your first book as well. - Oh, my God!

656
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,280
- It's really good.
- Thank you so much.

657
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,199
- Can we get a quick selfie, Rupes?
- Yeah. - Is it possible? - Yeah.

658
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,039
I've got the selfie.

659
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,319
- Awesome! - Thank you, Rupert. Appreciate it.
- Good to see you.

660
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,559
The effect on Brian is undeniable.

661
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,479
- Is that what happens? Are you excited?
- I'm so excited!

662
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,279
- Mission accomplished.
- We got it!

663
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,719
In that instant I see exactly why
Brian is so hooked on this hobby.

664
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,479
It's the thrill of the chase,

665
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,439
the success, but perhaps
most importantly of all,

666
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,639
the sense of recognition from Rupert.

667
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,839
Oh, thank you.

668
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,439
It's an adrenaline rush
and it's also like a...

669
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,599
I don't know, like a big weight
has suddenly been taken off.

670
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,679
- Feels good, right? I feel exhausted, though.
- It's kind of strange, man.

671
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,919
- This is awesome. - That's a good rush.
- Yeah. - He went straight for you!

672
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,039
- He loved us.
- He went straight for you, man.

673
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,239
- He knew exactly who to look out for.
- Exactly. I couldn't believe it.

674
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:47,039
That was awesome.

675
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,319
On his celebrity high,

676
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,039
and with one more signed
picture in his pocket,

677
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,559
Brian heads off into the night
to track down Nick Jonas

678
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,359
for that selfie.

679
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,559
For me, however, five hours
on the streets of New York

680
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,359
has taken its toll, and
I'm calling it a night.

681
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,879
As I'm walking back to my hotel I
do feel like I'm a little closer

682
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,639
to understanding why Tina
wants all those pictures.

683
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,679
In Brian's case, I don't think
it's actually about the number

684
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,119
of autographs or pictures.

685
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,479
What he seems most excited about
is all these famous faces,

686
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,159
from Rupert and Dan down to
Hugh Jackman and Nick Jonas.

687
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,639
They seem to know who he is,

688
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,319
and that in a small way he has
become part of their lives.

689
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,919
Just like Tina has become part of mine.

690
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,319
I can remember being cornered in
a public loo once and thinking,

691
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,599
"Could we not at least get out
of here to do the photo?"

692
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,639
Cos you know, this isn't
good for any of us, is it?

693
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,239
So moments like that, you
think, "Let's just..."

694
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,999
But people get very excited.
"If I don't do it NOW I won't have her,"

695
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,520
"she'll dematerialise or something."

696
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,279
Before I leave New York I want
to know what Rupert thinks

697
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,439
of Brian and having superfans like him.

698
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,439
- He was completely over the moon yesterday when you...
- Oh, good.

699
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,119
When you clocked him and
knew his name he was like...

700
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,479
He was beside himself with excitement.

701
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,919
The first time I met him
was really early on.

702
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,279
- I think it was my first day I was rehearsing.
- He was waiting for you.

703
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,759
He was outside the rehearsal studio, yeah.

704
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,599
He's such a likeable... I completely
fell in love with him. His stories...

705
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,119
Have you had any other kind
of strange fan experiences,

706
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,319
or does Brian kind of top the list?

707
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,239
I have this girl that...

708
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,719
sends me photos of herself
wearing one of my jackets.

709
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,319
It's literally a wadge like that
of her in different positions.

710
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,239
Nothing like... weird!

711
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:44,559
- She just wants me to see that she's enjoying the jacket.
- Yeah, yeah.

712
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,799
It's a manageable level. It's not like...
I'm not Justin Bieber.

713
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,479
- Do you say no much to people?
- I can't.

714
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,599
- It's one thing I just cannot do.
- I have the same problem.

715
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,239
That word "no". I say yes to anything.

716
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:03,199
That's the danger, I would do
anything if someone told me to do it.

717
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,799
- It's got me into a few... tricky situations.
- Like what?

718
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,839
I met this drag queen and I ended
going back to her little flat

719
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,599
with all her drag queen friends...

720
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,679
- Purely because you felt the compulsion...
- Couldn't say no.

721
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,319
They dressed me up. We went
to go and get bagels at 4am.

722
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,359
I was in full heels and a feather boa.
It was really weird.

723
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Rupert seemed to get a real kick out of it.

724
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:32,959
- He was like, "I absolutely love it."
- Yeah. I mean, I do... He loves what?

725
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,079
- Being recognised. - Oh, does he?
- Yeah! I was really surprised.

726
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,799
- I thought he was going to say...
- That is surprising.

727
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,639
He said, "I get a real kick out of it,"

728
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,919
and he reeled off many scenarios where

729
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,799
he has ended up in someone's house or they've
asked for his autograph and said, "Do you"

730
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,479
"want to come for a cup of tea,"
and he can't say no and ends up...

731
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,199
Don't put that in the film, Tom.

732
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,679
- Don't...
- That's Rupert.

733
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,519
Don't say to people that if you ask Rupert for his
autograph he'll come round to your fucking house.

734
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,199
There's actually a much
more explicit story.

735
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,920
- I watered that down quite a lot.
- Oh, God.

736
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,719
In a strange coincidence,

737
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:13,319
Rupert actually played an obsessed
fan in an Ed Sheeran video.

738
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,799
♪ I'm going to pick up the pieces

739
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,279
♪ And build a Lego house. ♪

740
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,599
That was an interesting experience
because I was in a room

741
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,839
full of Ed Sheeran fans and I
actually had to go on stage.

742
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,439
He left and they were all chanting, "Ed!
Ed!" for the encore,

743
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,400
and I came on and there's like a pause.

744
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,159
♪ I'm out of touch I'm out of love

745
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,759
♪ I'll pick you up when
you're getting down. ♪

746
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,559
None of the audience knew that was going to happen.
Yeah, I did play it.

747
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,999
- That was a great video, man. I love that video.
- It was good fun.

748
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,999
I did say I was willing
to dye my hair ginger

749
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,159
- but he was still keen on getting you for some reason.
- Oh, really?

750
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,559
Next time.

751
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,399
It's always the weirdest people
that I ever get starstruck about.

752
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,519
It's not like...

753
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,999
I mean, I've been near the Queen
and that was pretty special. - Yeah.

754
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:10,639
- But it was Alan Titchmarsh, Richard Madeley...
- Why? - I don't know.

755
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,999
I can't really...

756
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,199
work it out, but...

757
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,799
It's not like I'm even,
like, with Alan Titchmarsh,

758
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,919
it's not like I'm a big gardener
or watch his shows religiously.

759
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,359
It's just... I don't know.

760
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,799
There are very few people who are not
affected by meeting somebody famous.

761
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,879
Like, I am. I get really
starstruck when I meet people.

762
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,439
People have different reactions
to meeting famous people.

763
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,799
It normally means that they are
either really nice or very nervous

764
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,679
or want to make a joke
or want to be a dick.

765
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,239
There's a whole range of
reactions that you can have.

766
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,519
I was having lunch with my sister-in-law.

767
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,159
I see this man walking towards
me with a little entourage.

768
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,159
And I thought, if I didn't know better

769
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,119
I would think that was Morrissey.

770
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,239
Morrissey was a big deal to me when
I was in my teens. A very big deal.

771
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,999
He came right up to me and
we simultaneously both said,

772
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,679
"It IS you!"

773
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,519
And we shook hands and then we
parted and he went up the escalator

774
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,719
and I walked on with my sister-in-law.

775
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,919
She said to me, "Put your hand down."

776
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,159
I was still walking along
like a Dalek, like this.

777
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,439
If my 17-year-old self had known
that I would meet Morrissey

778
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,400
and Morrissey would know who I am...

779
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,919
My time with Brian on the streets
of New York was a real eye-opener.

780
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,559
I'd never fully appreciated the
hours fans put into getting
781
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,759
an autograph and couldn't have
imagined that an evening freezing

782
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,399
my arse off for just a few
seconds with a film star

783
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,800
could actually be fun.

784
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,239
The thing that stuck with me was
the sheer excitement Brian got.

785
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,079
It was infectious.

786
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,400
And on my way back home I find myself
wanting more of the fan experience.

787
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,439
There's a Comic Con event in Birmingham

788
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,199
and I'm giving it one more go.

789
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,600
But this time I'm determined to
try and lose my inhibitions.

790
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,079
When I went to the US convention
it was Tom trying to walk round

791
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,039
and blend in, which didn't
go down that well at times.

792
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,079
So I'm thinking maybe a cunning
disguise might help on this count

793
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,879
and just try and let go a little bit.

794
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,839
This is the weekend where we
give it a jolly good crack.

795
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,719
And we'll see if we can achieve it.

796
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,039
One of the conventions was
at Santiago Comic Con.

797
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,679
- You went as...
- Spider-Man. I've done it a few times, actually,

798
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,399
and it was nice to just
interact with people.

799
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,879
A lot of people were asking
me to stop and take photos,

800
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,919
but not because it was me but
because of my cool costume.

801
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,439
And that was weirdly cool.

802
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,599
After my dodgy attempt in New
York, I need to up the ante

803
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,919
with my disguise,

804
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,559
so I have enlisted the help of
two seasoned convention-goers.

805
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,279
Sisters Kat and Jess have
been going to these events

806
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,319
dressed as various film
characters for years.
807
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,679
So who better to introduce
me to the cosplay scene?

808
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,919
That's dressing up, to me and you.

809
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,759
A cunning disguise here that the
production have got for me.

810
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,279
Four or five sizes too big, by
the looks of it. But this is it.

811
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,600
Time to channel my inner fan.

812
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,239
Hello?

813
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,039
Hello? Good morning!

814
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,839
The plan is that the girls are
going to be the only ones

815
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,599
who know my real identity.

816
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,999
They also happen to be
huge Harry Potter fans,

817
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,039
which makes for a slightly awkward start.

818
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,999
- Don't freak out!
- THEY GIBBER.

819
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,799
Don't freak out, I'm a lot
nicer than Draco, I promise.

820
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,519
- STRANGLED SQUEALING.
- Hey, how are we doing? Tom.

821
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,839
- Nice to meet you. - Oh, my God!
- I'm in good hands here.

822
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,359
You guys can take me under your
wing and show me the ropes.

823
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,359
Show me what to do and what not to do.

824
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,599
Don't say anything bad
about people's cosplay.

825
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,959
Be very complimentary?

826
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,159
Be nice to everyone

827
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,719
unless you want to be seen as
the worst person in the world.

828
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,639
OK. If anyone wants a photo
with your costume just let them.

829
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,639
- That's key? OK. What characters are we going as today?
- You'll see.

830
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,279
We'll see! All right. Girls, shall
we start the transformation? - Yep.

831
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,920
- See you on the other side. All right.
- HE CHUCKLES.

832
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,360
Snazzy?

833
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:14,039
Wow! So this is Auntie Bella.
That's amazing.

834
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,039
That happened quick.
I didn't even see that.

835
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,199
To be honest, the attention to
detail is pretty impressive, but

836
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,199
I get the feeling it means more to
them than putting on a costume.

837
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,599
Do you feel more comfortable

838
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,399
and more at ease as characters
than you do as yourself?

839
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,359
When I first started I didn't
feel confident as myself

840
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,679
or in the costume, but when I first
went to a Comic Con I felt more

841
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,319
confident at the convention
rather than, like, as myself.

842
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,639
You consider yourselves
to be superfans, girls?

843
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,159
This is pretty much all I spend
my money on, just trying to...

844
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,199
This is my student loan down the drain.

845
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,039
Some make-up I've been
accustomed to, but lipstick,
846
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,120
that's definitely a first. Ready?

847
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,279
- Oh, my God! - Yeah, is it working?
- Yeah. - Yeah.

848
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,719
Why so serious?

849
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,599
All right, final shot before we head out.

850
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,560
Girls, shall we do it? Are we ready?

851
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,159
To the Con!

852
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,799
- This is a surreal experience for us all, isn't it?
- Yeah.

853
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,159
I'm slightly freaking out. Don't worry.

854
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,919
Takes me back to my childhood.

855
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,239
- I remember Helena let me play with it as a kid.
- Oh, my God!

856
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:23,439
That sounded really wrong.

857
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,960
Crikey, we are here. I'm seeing cosplayers.

858
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,199
Radcliffe was right, going incognito
does feel strangely liberating.

859
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,760
Love the costume, dude!
Can we get a picture?
860
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Can we get a picture?

861
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,399
This isn't actually as awkward
as I thought it was going to be.

862
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,279
And with all the other costumes on
show, I feel like I'm fitting in.

863
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,439
It's just like having a third
member of our cosplay family.

864
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,279
Right, now we are in the hub of it all.

865
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,079
All right, lead the way, girls.

866
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,119
♪ I wish that I could be like the cool kids

867
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,279
♪ Cos all the cool kids they seem to fit in

868
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:17,679
♪ I wish is I could be like the
cool kids, like the cool kids... ♪

869
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,000
Shall we do a selfie?

870
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,079
- What's your best Joker line?
- I haven't got one. - Me neither.

871
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,719
- We told you. Why so serious?
- Another Joker.

872
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:31,640
God, there's so many around already.

873
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,360
- Say cheese.
- Cheese.

874
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,959
I'm feeling like I can be part of it

875
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,279
and not, kind of, be something that
people point at and if they are,

876
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,039
they're doing it because I've
got a kick arse costume.

877
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,839
Not because I was a Harry Potter kid.

878
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,760
Wow, amazing costumes.

879
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,159
The atmosphere is strangely infectious.

880
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,879
- There's Alfie, Alfie.
- Oh, my God!

881
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,519
There's so many people around
you having such a good time.

882
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,599
- It's hard not to smile. What do you think of my effort?
- Really good.

883
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,799
Yeah? Maybe it's the
fact that anything goes.

884
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,759
No-one is being judged and everyone
is determined to have a good time.

885
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,159
I don't know. What's the Joker pose?

886
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,919
And I've just spotted a
friend who's an ideal person
887
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,519
to test my costume on.

888
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,839
Vic is one of the world's leading
cartoon voice-over artists

889
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,279
and someone I enjoy a round of golf with.
How you doing, Vic?

890
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,359
- How you doing? Joe.
- Good to see you.

891
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,359
Nice to meet you too. Those are my friends.

892
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,599
- You look amazing.
- Thank you. This is my first time dressing up for...

893
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,879
You're doing a very wonderful job, Joe.

894
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,199
- Thank you, man. I'm enjoying it.
- Fantastic.

895
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,279
- Great to meet you guys.
- Nice to meet you too.

896
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,799
I have to reveal, Vic, it's Tom Felton.

897
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,519
I thought it was you, I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.

898
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,439
I swear to God, I swear to God.

899
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,799
I looked at you and
thought it looks like him
900
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,439
and I thought, "Why the
fuck would he be here?"

901
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,599
- Bring it in, brother.
- How are you? - I'm good.

902
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,479
People just never even imagine
that a celebrity would be

903
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,079
walking around in costume.

904
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,319
So they are like, it goes
against their sensibilities.

905
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,999
- No, couldn't be him.
- Is that what happened? - Exactly.

906
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,799
- That's what happened with you?
- Exactly.

907
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,719
- We've got to play some golf soon.
- I know, don't remind me.

908
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:16,919
- Good to see you, brother.
- Good to see you, brother.

909
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,719
Thanks, I appreciate it. We had
to come and say hey to you, Vic.

910
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:21,799
- I love it. I'm glad you did.
- Take care.

911
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,759
It actually feels pretty cool to
be here and to be part of this

912
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,119
side of the fan world.

913
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,159
The camaraderie, the chance to
make new friends and a sense

914
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,879
of belonging all help to create
this pretty unique atmosphere.

915
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,359
I'm starting to see why families
might spend their Sunday

916
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,319
afternoons dressed up as
their favourite superheroes.

917
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:46,800
♪ We can be heroes just for one day... ♪

918
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,280
That is a surreal experience
for so many reasons, man.

919
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,759
A little scared with the
wand in the face, there.

920
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,159
They love being stopped and
asked to be taken pictures of.

921
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,400
It must be what it's like to be famous.

922
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,239
It is odd that, you know, in our
lives, it's much easier to be normal

923
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,840
when you're dressed up
as a Marvel character.

924
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,959
But, it's fun and it's true.

925
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,039
Well, I think, yeah, in hindsight,
the Spider-Man outfit is probably

926
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,599
better because I was just painting
my face, people were looking.

927
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,799
They knew who you were then.

928
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,599
I don't think they did, no, but
because people are staring,

929
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,879
just because you're in costume,
my natural instinct was like,

930
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,039
Oh, my God, they know it's Draco.

931
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,799
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

932
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,919
- Why is Draco dressed like that?
- Joker.

933
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,639
He's gone insane.

934
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,759
When actually, they were probably
just looking at my awesome costume.

935
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,920
Yeah, I'm sure they were.

936
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,999
I've managed to answer a
lot of questions that have

937
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,719
been in the back of my mind for
some time, except the big one.

938
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,479
Where does my superfan,
Tina, fit into all this?

939
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,439
I think Tina kind of sparked off
the question in the first place,

940
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,119
as far as why on earth is she doing this?

941
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,479
When I was 18, I went to
Paris on a press tour

942
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,799
and there was this middle-aged
woman who was taking

943
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,239
pictures of me from a slight distance.

944
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,439
Did she know that you
were going to be there?

945
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,719
- Yes. - So, she'd followed you?
- She'd followed me, yeah, yeah, yeah.

946
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:26,759
- To Paris?
- To Paris, yeah.

947
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,839
My family know about her, my mum
knows her, Jade knows her very well.

948
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,959
OK, I'm feeling much more comfortable now.

949
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,079
- You're talking me down. - Absolutely.
- I was feeling quite concerned.

950
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,679
About a year ago, she waited outside
an event for four hours just

951
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:45,359
to give me a card to say sorry about
the loss of your dog who recently...

952
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,639
Our dog had to be put down.

953
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,599
I sort of started to re-evaluate what

954
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,719
she wanted out of this relationship,
if you can call it that.

955
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:58,999
In my case, as the writer of the
work, it's not really about me.

956
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,759
It's about the work.

957
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,559
You're dealing with something
that is much more direct,

958
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,519
because you're being seen through
several filters by this person

959
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,359
and she's bringing those things,
she's wanting things from you.

960
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,439
It seems so odd, to me,

961
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,559
and anyone else would find this
the weirdest thing in the world.

962
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,079
Tina is like the one fan
that, like, our friends

963
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,639
- and our family are aware of.
- Everyone knows about Tina.

964
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,519
It's become that current and
that frequent that they know.

965
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,959
One of my best friends has met
Tina, my family have met Tina.

966
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,839
She's got me fascinated in this
world of why fans, kind of, take

967
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,959
it to the levels that they do and
it's now turned into a thing

968
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,559
where I think I've become a
little bit obsessed with her.

969
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,839
I'm nervous but I'm very excited
to see what she's got to say

970
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:53,159
and just to lift the veil a
little bit on this whole thing

971
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,679
and hopefully get some answers.

972
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,799
- Hi, Tina. - Hi, you got here safely.
- We did, we did.

973
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,319
- How are you doing, all right?
- OK, thanks.

974
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,639
- Are we all right to come in?
- Yeah, course you can.

975
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,479
Thank you so much, thank you very much.

976
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,079
Wow, I'm kind of nervous about
being in your house, Tina.
977
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,119
- Look at your collections.
- I have got stacks of stuff. - Oh, my lord.

978
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,879
After all these years, I can't
believe I'm actually here.

979
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,319
I've never really, kind of, had the
opportunity to ask you, really.

980
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,679
When and how did Harry
Potter come into your life?

981
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,519
I went out and bought the first
one and after that, that was it.

982
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,439
- You became a superfan overnight?
- Yeah.

983
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,079
It wasn't a case of you needed
to watch all seven of them?

984
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,119
No, it just... As soon as I saw the film,

985
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,079
I went out and got the
book and then it just...

986
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,759
- It took over. - It just spiralled.
- Oh, crikey, yeah, Lordy.

987
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,759
It's been a while since I have
seen the mullet that colour.

988
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,359
- Did you prefer it blonde?
- I liked you blonde. - Really?

989
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,239
Oh, my lord, where was that?

990
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,799
Come on, now we've started,
we're going to have to see it.

991
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:10,159
- Are there any more? This was...?
- This was at the Louvre.

992
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,639
It was, yeah, this was my first
real memory of us crossing paths,

993
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,559
- was seeing you at the Louvre.
- Yeah.

994
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,999
Why me, Tina?

995
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,799
Because I like you and you're lovely.
That's why.

996
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,239
That's very sweet but
where did that come from?

997
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,039
Was that from just liking
Draco as a character

998
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,039
and then seeing interviews
and bits and pieces?

999
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,759
I'll be honest with you, when
I saw Chamber Of Secrets,

1000
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,799
we saw this little blonde slimy
little git who was always

1001
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,079
after Harry and I thought,

1002
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,759
"Ooh, I'm going to start watching him."

1003
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,160
Rictusempra!

1004
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,200
I think, to start off with, it was
the character, Draco, that I liked.

1005
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,079
And then, obviously, gradually,

1006
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,759
I got to like you. I mean,
I like all of them.

1007
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,079
I see a massive poster of
Dan behind us as well.

1008
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,720
That was a board that I
brought back from London.

1009
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,199
- Oh, my lord.
- When I got on the tube, I sort of sat on an end seat

1010
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:26,079
and just sort of stuck
it by the end window.

1011
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,159
You must have got some looks
on the train home that day.

1012
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,679
Why did you want to have all of our
autographs in the first place?

1013
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,799
I think it's just to feel a
little bit closer to you.

1014
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,159
To me, it's like a connection, really.

1015
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:44,359
I'll be honest, we never had a family
and with following Harry Potter

1016
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:49,079
and watching you all grow
up, it was just like seeing

1017
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,919
your own family grow up and
I think in some respects,

1018
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,239
I just got attached, erm,

1019
00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:02,199
because you seemed like a big family.

1020
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,359
- And you wanted to be part of that?
- Yes, yes.

1021
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,959
And there it is. I completely understand.

1022
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,599
After seven years of questioning
why Tina is always there,

1023
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,879
the reason is simple.

1024
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,159
You can travel very deeply
into why, as a society,

1025
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,279
you need famous people.
Do you know what I mean?

1026
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,519
You had a job to do and
you did it brilliantly

1027
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,439
and someone has come along and
said, "I need you to fulfil that."

1028
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,639
If you were going to be
obsessed with something,

1029
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,679
being obsessed with a series of books
or films is pretty good. - Yeah.

1030
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,319
- Some people are obsessed with heroin, you know?
- That, in a weird way...

1031
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,319
It's anything, you know,

1032
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,399
it's something in your life that,
like, other people think is weird

1033
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,639
and wrong and don't get,
but it gives you meaning.

1034
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,479
For all the fans I've met along my journey,

1035
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,999
there's a reason for their devotion.

1036
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,119
Whether it's escapism to a world
you can lose yourself in,

1037
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,399
being part of a community united
by similar interests or simply

1038
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,119
the need for personal recognition.

1039
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,079
What else have I learnt?

1040
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,319
Well, I reckon we could all use
a little bit more superfan

1041
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,040
in our lives.

1042
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,200
It hums.

1043
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,720
- Failure will not be tolerated.
- Have I upset the boss already?

1044
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,999
It was thoroughly awkward,
to be honest with you.

1045
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,279
I felt like a bit of a tit.

1046
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,199
If you were like a mad Star Wars
fan who was getting a chance to do

1047
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,240
that with them, you'd probably
have got bang into it.

1048
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,239
Sorry, Jack, I'm all out of rum.

1049
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,679
I totally get the Potter
thing because your childhood

1050
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,799
and your teens, they are such an
important informative experience

1051
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,439
of your life that the things
that matter to you, then,

1052
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,720
I think they do stay with you.

1053
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,359
Most of the people that are fanatical,

1054
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,679
especially about Potter, they've
found, like, their best mates.
1055
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,520
Yeah, it's a real community, isn't it?

1056
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,599
- Thank you so much.
- It's been a real pleasure, it's been so much fun.

1057
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,679
- Yeah, it has, it's been quite therapeutic.
- Yeah, I know.

1058
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,920
- I won't bill you. The first session is free.
- All right, cool.

1059
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,160
- Turn the camera off.
- Turn it off.