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FT-707 agc problem

 by Mike » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:39:22

 
HI Folks, 
Has anyone experience of the FT-707 ? 
My FT-707 has developed a problem, on SSB or CW recieve, the "S" meter 
indicates about 50% fsd and the reciever appears to be _very_ quiet 
but is recieving signals. On AM the reciever comes back to life and 
the "S" meter drops back to normal. 
 The transmit side appears to be fully functional with the meter 
indicating PO and ALC correctly. 
Normally the "S" meter will deflect toward fsd as the RF gain is 
reduced. This still happens on all modes but is now partially 'hidden' 
by the fault on SSB and CW. Switching between fast and slow AGC has no 
noticable effect on the fault condition. 
I suspect an AGC fault (unlikely only on ssb and cw ?), but any other 
ideas appreciated. 
thanks Mike W, G8NXD qthr 
 
 
 
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FT-707 agc problem

 by Pete Gianakopoulo » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:32:28

 
One thing that could cause the problem is if the BFO insertion frequency has 
drifted into the I.F. passband.  If it were that, though, you would probably 
notice that the audio had a more "muffled" quality. 
Pete  KE9OA 

Quote:> HI Folks, 
> Has anyone experience of the FT-707 ? 
> My FT-707 has developed a problem, on SSB or CW recieve, the "S" meter 
> indicates about 50% fsd and the reciever appears to be _very_ quiet 
> but is recieving signals. On AM the reciever comes back to life and 
> the "S" meter drops back to normal. 
>  The transmit side appears to be fully functional with the meter 
> indicating PO and ALC correctly. 
> Normally the "S" meter will deflect toward fsd as the RF gain is 
> reduced. This still happens on all modes but is now partially 'hidden' 
> by the fault on SSB and CW. Switching between fast and slow AGC has no 
> noticable effect on the fault condition. 
> I suspect an AGC fault (unlikely only on ssb and cw ?), but any other 
> ideas appreciated. 
> thanks Mike W, G8NXD qthr 

 
 
 
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FT-707 agc problem

 by Renfr » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:08:48

Gday Mike, I have an FT707 myself and a circuit diagram. A portion of 
the IF output is detected and amplified by a fet Q2020 and  Q2021 then 
fed to the LED's. If your receiver is quiet the problem is probably in 
the agc circuit which controls the RF and IF amplifiers. The output 
from IF amplifier Q2005 is fed to a buffer Q2018 then to diodesD2024 & 
2025. The resultant DC voltage is amplified by Q2019 and fed to the 
gates (2) of the RF and IF amplifiers.If you can identify the 
components on the board it would be worth checking the diodes and the 
transistors involved first. I think it unlikely to have shifted off 
frequency if the receiver stll works albeit quietly on SSB and CW 
mode. Hope that is of some help. Let me know if I can help further, 
                   Regards, Renfred  ZL1BDL 

Quote:>HI Folks, 
>Has anyone experience of the FT-707 ? 
>My FT-707 has developed a problem, on SSB or CW recieve, the "S" meter 
>indicates about 50% fsd and the reciever appears to be _very_ quiet 
>but is recieving signals. On AM the reciever comes back to life and 
>the "S" meter drops back to normal. 
> The transmit side appears to be fully functional with the meter 
>indicating PO and ALC correctly. 
>Normally the "S" meter will deflect toward fsd as the RF gain is 
>reduced. This still happens on all modes but is now partially 'hidden' 
>by the fault on SSB and CW. Switching between fast and slow AGC has no 
>noticable effect on the fault condition. 
>I suspect an AGC fault (unlikely only on ssb and cw ?), but any other 
>ideas appreciated. 
>thanks Mike W, G8NXD qthr 

 
 
 
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FT-707 agc problem

 by Mike » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:12:30

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 04:32:28 GMT, "Pete Gianakopoulos" 

>One thing that could cause the problem is if the BFO insertion frequency has 
>drifted into the I.F. passband.  If it were that, though, you would probably 
>notice that the audio had a more "muffled" quality. 
>Pete  KE9OA 
>> HI Folks, 
>> Has anyone experience of the FT-707 ? 
>> My FT-707 has developed a problem, on SSB or CW recieve, the "S" meter 
>> indicates about 50% fsd and the reciever appears to be _very_ quiet 
>> but is recieving signals. On AM the reciever comes back to life and 
>> the "S" meter drops back to normal. 
>>  The transmit side appears to be fully functional with the meter 
>> indicating PO and ALC correctly. 
>> Normally the "S" meter will deflect toward fsd as the RF gain is 
>> reduced. This still happens on all modes but is now partially 'hidden' 
>> by the fault on SSB and CW. Switching between fast and slow AGC has no 
>> noticable effect on the fault condition. 
>> I suspect an AGC fault (unlikely only on ssb and cw ?), but any other 

Thanks Pete, I too concidered this, but for both USB and LSB CIO's to 
drift equally into the passband is just too unlikely. 
but I have to admit I hav'nt tested for this yet. 
cheers, Mike W, G8NXD 
 
 
 
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FT-707 agc problem

 by J M Noedi » Sat, 13 Oct 2001 04:48:27

Quote:>>> My FT-707 has developed a problem, on SSB or CW recieve, the "S" meter 
>>> indicates about 50% fsd and the reciever appears to be _very_ quiet 
>>> but is recieving signals. On AM the reciever comes back to life and 
>>> the "S" meter drops back to normal. 
>>>  The transmit side appears to be fully functional with the meter 
>>> indicating PO and ALC correctly. 
>>> Normally the "S" meter will deflect toward fsd as the RF gain is 
>>> reduced. This still happens on all modes but is now partially 'hidden' 
>>> by the fault on SSB and CW. Switching between fast and slow AGC has no 
>>> noticable effect on the fault condition. 
>>> I suspect an AGC fault (unlikely only on ssb and cw ?), but any other 
>Thanks Pete, I too concidered this, but for both USB and LSB CIO's to 
>drift equally into the passband is just too unlikely. 
>but I have to admit I hav'nt tested for this yet. 
>cheers, Mike W, G8NXD 

it seems that AGC circuit is faulty or incorrectly adjusted, perhaps a 

component is bad, so I would force the AGC voltage back to where it 
should be for no sigal input and see what happens 
FT-707 might be a later version than FT-7, and I never experienced any 
AGC trouble with FT-7, while some older FT-101B seems to have a 
constructional problem 
73 
jan-martin LA8AK 
 
 
 
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