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Ellis - 1967 - English Visitor's Comments On The American Religio
Ellis - 1967 - English Visitor's Comments On The American Religio
and could not get through more than the first twenty pages ( !). He
has studied formerly a great deal of German Transcendentalism and
is now going through a regular course of divinity. He is thought
very highly of here by all people, in an intellectual point of view. I
have seen a good deal of him already & like him very much. He
asked me to spend several days at his house on the outskirts of Bos-
ton. Bp. Fitzpatrick did not like the English plan of admitting con-
verts without instruction at once into the Church and also spoke
against the omission of the supplementary ceremonies in baptism.
One priest said that he wd make a penitent of his have them sup-
plied afterwards if not done at the time. But perhaps he was joking.
They talk of converts being baptized not his being received. Ap-
parent holiness out of the Church in someone was spoken of as Satan
transforming himself into an angel of light. You will not lay too
much stress on such exceptions but they are important as an index
of thought feeling. Complaints were made against some of the English
converts for not declaring in their writings that they left the Estab-
lishment, not because they could not work out their theories in it, but
to save their souls. Mr. Oakley's [^/c]12 Pamphlet & some other one
were quoted as holding forth the former as a reason. Even the pas-
sage at the end of the Development was not considered enough. They
want a point blank statement of this from you especially, in order to
neutralize the assertions of Reviews, Newspapers, etc. There is nat-
urally less joy here about conversions in England than among us, still
a warm interest is felt as I have found by personal experience. They
say they want English priests out here as the Irish ones do not suit
Americans. I doubt not that the field for exertion wd be a very im-
portant one, especially to any qualified by knowledge and education
to enter into controversy with effect. Mr. Brownson told me that
the current of thought in Boston had been checked in its progress
transcendentalwise. The question of Church & no Church either
negatively or positively is agitating minds : by negatively, I mean peo-
ple are trying to get along without the Church, without the notion
of a Church being adopted; for a church and The Church are grow-
ing to be synonymous. I met at Newport a Dr. Woods,13 President of
Brunswick College, Maine & have seen much of him. He has in-
troduced me to various Bostonians who represent different -isms, for
this is a city of isms. He stayed a week with you at Oriel six years
ago. He is a congregationalist minister & I fear has no good rea-
sons for not entering the Church. He told me that the amount of
unbaptized people in the States is enormous. Even among the Bap-
tists who are a very large body, it is only the children of mem-
12. Frederick Oakeley (1802-1880), an Anglican divine, was received into the Roman
Catholic Church the same month as Newman.
13. Leonard Woods (1807-1878) was President of Bowdoin College at Brunswick, Maine.
42 CHURCH HISTORY
bers who are baptized and thrive. There is a Dr. Upham14 in Maine
who by accident got hold of some Catholic devotional books and
was much taken with them. He has now one of the largest as-
cetic libraries in the country. He is a great admirer of the Jesuits.
He has written various works, the matter of which is taken from
Catholic ascetic writers & these books are eagerly read by Protestants.
One book is called the Interior Life. He has written a life of St.
Theresa under the fictitious name of Malaais Adorna and now he
has got into the quietest controversy & [illegible]. He does not trou-
ble his head about Catholic Doctrine and as a conclusion will you be-
lieve it? this Dr. Upham is a congregationalist and remains in a
body which does not profess or pretend to have the sacraments. Think
of one being deeply versed in ascetic thought, written and feelingly
so, and yet remain untroubled by the absence of the heavenly food
on which they lived. It is most marvellous. I have visited Canada
since I wrote & was much pleased by many things there. Twin Ca-
thedrals are rising at Kingston & Toronto in the Upper Province.
There is I am told a probability of government being asked to hand
back some of the large estates belonging to the Jesuits which were con-
fiscated at the order's suppression. The Jesuit college at Quebec is
now a barrack. I.H.S. is carved over the doorway. It is sad to see
the troops now where the Jesuit Fathers were once. I was quite af-
fectionately received by an old Sulpician at Montreal, a Mr. Rich-
ards. He called me 'my dear child' in conversation & seemed to feel
very much the late conversions in England. An Irish Priest whom
I accidentally met on board a steamboat took me over a convent of
Soeurs Grises at Montreal. The institution is for educating found-
lings and supporting and attending to very old men & women. I
had some talk with the sisters & was introduced to many of them as
a convert somewhat to my disconcernment for I felt that I ought to
say something appropriate but had not ready wit enough to devise
this something. It was quite a pleasure to see their faces so sweet
& (if not too strong a word for a whole community) angelical. They
laughed and talked, some of them quite merrily with the paieté de
coeur [sic] of French women. One of them spoke of how quick the
time passed in religion without cares and anxieties. The Irish priest
I observed avoided speaking French to them as much as possible. I
asked him afterwards why and he said that he discovered once be-
fore when he had been discoursing to them in French, that they made
very merry with his foreign accent & idiom after he was gone. I
fancy that I have supplied them with some matter for recreation
time. We shook hands with the sisters at taking leave, who had
14. Thomas Cogswell TJpham (1799-1872) was for many years professor of philosophy
in Bowdoin College; his outstanding book was A Philosophical and Practical Treatise on
the Will (1834) ; the work to which Knox referred was Principles of the Interior or
Hidden Life (1843).
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