The comments you provided are part of a discussion that took place on a blog post

in 2006. The comments cover various perspectives on the topics of innocence,

trustworthiness, long-term focus, and cynicism in the business world. Here is a
summary of the main points raised by the commenters:

David Zatz, who is new to business consulting, emphasizes the importance of doing
what's best for clients and maintaining long-term focus. He believes that doing the
"right thing" often leads to personal and professional success.

Charles H. Green argues that loyalty is shifting from corporations to individual

human beings. He believes that behaving in ways that benefit others and developing
relationships can lead to trust and long-term rewards.

Alex McCafferty suggests that people lose their passion and principles when they
forget that they are more than just businesspeople. He emphasizes the need for a
broader perspective and more meaningful values in life.

Richard Thornton expresses frustration with the focus on short-term gains and
crisis management in his industry. He seeks companies that prioritize solving their
clients' problems rather than looking for customers who solve their own problems.

Alexei Ghertescu questions David's motives for preaching about passion and
principles, suggesting that economic benefits may be the main driving force behind
such messages.

Debbie, a former lawyer, shares her experience of losing innocence when she
encountered manipulative practices in the legal profession.

David (Maister) reflects on the differing views of loyalty and trustworthiness

presented by Joe and Charlie. He acknowledges that loyalty is becoming less tied to
corporations and more focused on individual relationships.

Dennis Howlett points out the increase in cynicism and fraudulent behavior in the
business world, emphasizing a lack of consequences for such actions.

Peter Kua describes the pressure to promise unrealistic savings in consulting

projects, highlighting the discrepancy between marketing claims and actual
outcomes.

Mike suggests that people lose their innocence when they start seeing others as
"them" and marginalizing them for personal gain.

Bill Peper discusses workplace cynicism and its roots in unmet expectations. He
emphasizes the importance of personal growth, passion, and making better choices to
combat cynicism.