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2020/12/07

OSR: Review: Acid Death Fantasy About Me

Skerples
I bought Acid Death Fantasy to patch a gap in in Ultraviolet Grasslands game. The d40 "Who Is This Hero" table (UVG pg. 7) is great, but in a high-
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lethality game it can lead to duplicated concepts or lack of impact. More backgrounds are always handy, and, like most Troika! supplements, ADF complete
promised to have at least 36. Other material would be a nice bonus. profile

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That's an issue. The conceptual density of Troika! Advanced Skills lists is often low. "You are a Goat-Jouster. Skills: 2 Goat-Riding, 2 Jousting". "You
are a Spy Skills: 2 Disguise, 2 Sneak, 1 Dodge." There are some surprises, but not many.
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The space is wasted. You could ask players to assign a fixed number of points to a skill list, in the style of Fate Core. Results would be very similar, if
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not identical, and you'd save a ton of space in your book and a lot of tedious skill point assignment during writing. A lot of backgrounds in ADF call for Running Mysteries:
an Advanced Skill "of your choice" or a random spell anyway. It might lead to optimization problems (e.g. players always putting a few points into a Enigma
fight-based skill), but there are a few ways around that. 22 hours ago

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Compare this to Electric Bastionland's backgrounds, which (despite being entirely item-based) have 2 d6 tables per background. More variants, more Current Campagn Log
evocative details, more cool concepts and hints, and very little a GM could guess or condense. The density of ideas per page in EB is low due to the 1 day ago
table and art format chosen... but I liked the backgrounds enough to make a personal-use artless 3-backgrounds-per-page reference document.
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If you take the Advanced Skills out of a Troika! background and move to an all-in-one select/roll-your-own system, you can go from 2-3 backgrounds 2 days ago
per page to 4-5, or add a d6 table to each background. You're saving several short lines on a one-column page. That adds up quickly.
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Edit 2020/12/07: Some of these concerns are less related to ADF and more about Troika! in general, but core Troika! has fewer skill MAC Attack -
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lists that feel like a bullet point summary of the background's text. A function of revisions and tests? The limitations of the genre?
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Advanced Skill lists are a tradeoff. They can be boring and waste space, but alternative methods require other trades. Part of the joy of The Graverobber's
Troika! is rolling a character with 2 in Squid Farming and figuring out how to make it work. If you switch to an "assign # points to a skill Guide
list" system, your skill list needs to be enormous, or you need to allow freeform skills and trust that your players will use them. Will they Combo Encounters
voluntarily put 4 points into Philosophy? I suppose you could stipulate that at least 1 point must be assigned to an Advanced Skill that's 2 days ago

not on the skill list. Throne of Salt


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Then again, the ADF Desert Mutant background which has 5x "2 Skill of your choice" entries as its only Advanced Skills, is already a Student and the Dog
point-assignment system, so the concept clearly works. Knight
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Back to ADF. The Miens (i.e. "What is this creature doing?") table for enemies is good idea taken too far. Because it's Troika!, every enemy needs a Numbers Aren't Real
d6 table of Miens. How many possible moods can a lizard have? "Basking" for 2/6 entries and "Stalking" for 2/6 entries feels like more wasted space. Fire Kills (New System for
Why not make it a d3 table? Why not have one general Reaction Roll table, or one split by beast size? Break the template when it would add utility. a New Setting)
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Edit 2020/12/07: A d6 table with repeated results (e.g. 5 "stationary" 1 "migrating") does provide extra info, but I'm a big fan of non- Zootopia was accidentally
repeated, non-null results. How many times will you roll on this table? Will weighting results become relevant? If you roll on a table 20 Fascist
times a session, you'll get a distribution of results. If you roll once per campaign, any clever weight tricks are hidden. Mien tables fall 4 days ago
somewhere in between; you might roll on them once, at the start of an encounter, or you might roll on them repeatedly as players
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monitor a creature, or you might use them as a schedule. XP
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On the other hand, some Mien tables are full of evocative detail. It's clear that in most Troika! products there are fun Mien tables and Mien tables
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making better, more useful content? It's odd that people focused on the weird deep thought evocative side of RPGs want to spend time on boring
repeated lizard moods and telling me a Dirt Farmer has 2 points in Farm Dirt.
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Great thoughts on Troika! They address some of the concerns I've had too. My remaining question - aside from does the math of the system simply
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break after several advancements - is "Is the problem that the advanced skills and miens wasted space or wasted opportunity." I guess the skills sort of
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have to take on that predictable mode. If you used more creative advanced skills to flesh out more of the character it would beg the question of whether Bombard
they are good at the things you expected them to be, and it would also make you want to write those skills back into the description. So they are going to 1 week ago
be slaved together. In a similar way, miens could really be rewritten as a few sentences after creatures talking about general behavior (when you have
something to say, and left off when you don't). Since they monster entries seem to "require" a miens table, authors have to supply them and sometimes The Empyrean
they half-ass it. So I wonder, what if they didn't half-ass it? But then would it look like creativity for creativity's sake? I think I am just thinking out loud and Sepulchre of S=I=N:
answering my own question here. Miens are not needed. Advanced skills are probably wasted space but they do quantify the description. You could Infuriata Abnegation,
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probably write them like this: 41 Sha’ir - You weave words into poetry (4) and spells (2 x 2, random) alike. You are greatly respected by the Thousand
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Sultans, who often pay heavily to be your patron. No need for a separate list then.
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Skerples 07/12/2020, 16:33

"If you used more creative advanced skills to flesh out more of the character it would beg the question of whether they are good at the things
you expected them to be".
It's a fair concern. Creativity and purple prose for its own sake, just to make sure the skill list doesn't feel like a repetition of the background
text, would also be bad.

Miens (or similar tables) are really hard to make evocative for some creatures, given the size limitations (around 2 words). There's only so
much you can do with a lizard.

Integrating skill values into the text is an interesting idea. Might break the flow of ideas, might not. It's definitely worth exploring.

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