Changes in ISO 5817:2023

(ISO 5817: Welding Quality level for imperfections-Visual testing acceptance standard.)

4th edition (ISO 5817:2023) cancels & replaces the 3rd

edition (ISO 5817: 2014).

Ram Korada
M.E, IWE, CSWIP3.1,ISO 9712 Level II PED cert.(UT & RT)
Welding Engineer
SMS India Pvt. Ltd

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The Main Changes
• Editorial Updates;
• Actual throat thickness aA , used in Table 1 for imperfections,
1.3, 1.4, 1.16 and 3.2;
• Figures for Table 1, no's 1.4, 1.5, 1.6,
1.11,1.14,1.16,1.19,2.12,2.13 and 4.1 changed or added.
• Table 1 no 4.1: exclusion several imperfections and change of
acceptance criteria ;
• Former Annex B Deleted.

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Editorial Updates
ISO 5817 2014
▪ Cl 1: Scope- This international standard
▪ Cl 2: Normative reference- ISO 6520-1:2007 was
referred.
▪ Cl 3 Figure 1: Placed at the end of terms &
definitions.
▪ Cl 3 terms & definitions: Smooth Weld Transition
▪ Annex C: Additional requirements for welds in steel
subject to fatigue
ISO 5817 2023
▪ Editorial changes in Introduction.
▪ Cl 1: Scope- This Document
▪ Cl 2: Normative reference- editorially entire
paragraph was changed & ISO 25091 (all parts)
welding & allied process –vocabulary was referred.
▪ Cl 3 Terms and definitions: URL addresses were
provided as referral.
▪ Cl 3 the Term & Definition “Fitness for purpose”
was removed.
▪ Cl 3 Figure 1: was placed after the definition of
“Projected area”.
▪ Cl 3 terms & definitions: Smooth Weld Transition
was changed to Smooth Transition.
▪ Annex B: Additional Criteria for welds in steel
subject to fatigue
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Actual throat thickness aA

ISO 5817 2023

• 1.3 Surface Pore: acceptance was referred with aA .
earlier it was referred with a
• 1.4 End crater pipe: for fillet welds was referred with aA
earlier it was referred with a

aA: Actual throat thickness (throat thickness of the finalized weld)

a : Nominal throat thickness of the fillet weld
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Actual throat thickness aA

• 1.16 excessive asymmetry of fillet welds: acceptance

was referred with aA earlier it was referred with a

• 3.2 Incorrect root gap for fillet welds: acceptance

was referred with aA earlier it was referred with a

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Figures for Table1, changed or Added

No Imperfection designation ISO 5817: 2014 ISO 5817:2023

1.3 Surface pore Remarks Column: Remarks Column:
Maximum dimension of a single pore On the weld face or the weld root Maximum
for dimension of a single pore for

1.4 End Crater Pipe Only “h” is defined “h” & “d” is defined and separate figures for
Butt & fillet

Fillet Welds
Butt Welds

1.5 Lack of fusion (incomplete fusion) No figure

New added figures

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Figures for Table1, changed or Added
No Imperfection designation ISO 5817: 2014 ISO 5817:2023
1.6 Incomplete root penetration

New added
figures

1.9 Excess weld metal (butt Smooth transition is required.

weld)

1.10 Excessive convexity (fillet Conditions not stated

weld)

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Figures for Table1, changed or Added
No Imperfection designation ISO 5817: 2014 ISO 5817:2023
1.11 Excessive penetration

1.12 Incorrect weld toe Conditions not stated

1.14 Sagging / Incompletely filled Extra two figures were added in addition to previous figure.
groove

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Figures for Table1, changed or Added
No Imperfection designation ISO 5817: 2014 ISO 5817:2023
1.16 Excessive asymmetry of fillet
weld(excessive unequal leg
length)

New added

1.18 Root porosity Acceptance for Quality Level D Acceptance for Quality Level D
Is : Locally permitted Is changed to : Acceptance depends on application, e .g.
Material, Corrosion protection

1.19 Poor restart No figures New were added

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Figures for Table1, changed or Added
No Imperfection designation ISO 5817: 2014 ISO 5817:2023
2.12 Lack of root fusion

Changed

2.13 Lack of penetration Extra figure is been added in addition to previous

figure for T-Joint

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Table 1 no 4.1: exclusion several imperfections and change of acceptance
criteria

Earlier: ISO 5817:2014

No Imperfection Remarks T Limits for imperfections for quality levels
designation (mm)
D C B

4 Multiple imperfections

4.1 Multiple 0,5 to 3 Not permitted Not permitted Not permitted

imperfections
in any cross
section

>3 Maximum total Maximum total Maximum total

Height of height of height of
imperfections: imperfections: imperfections:
Σ h ≤ 0.4 t or Σ h ≤ 0.3 t or Σ h ≤ 0.2 t or ≤
≤ 0.25 a ≤ 0.2 a 0.15 a

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Table 1 no 4.1: exclusion several imperfections and change of acceptance
criteria
Now : ISO 5817:2023
No Imperfection Remarks T Limits for imperfections for quality levels
designation (mm)
D C B
4 Multiple
imperfections
4.1 Multiple 502 Excess weld metal, 503 Excessive 0.5 Not permitted Not permitted Not permitted
imperfections convexity, 504 Excessive penetration , 5O5 to
in any cross Incorrect weld toe, 506 Overlap, 512 Excessive 3
Section which asymmetry of fillet weld (excessive unequal leg
reduce the cross length) and 5214 Excessive throat thickness are
section. excluded
>3 Maximum total Maximum total Maximum total
Height of Height of height of
imperfections: imperfections: imperfections:
Σ h ≤ 0.4 t or Σ h ≤ 0.3 t or Σ h ≤ 0.2 t or ≤
≤ 0.4a ≤ 0.3 a 0.2 a

Fig changed
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 Former, Annex B has been
Deleted

Now, Earlier Annex C became Annex B

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 In Bibliography

Two extra standards were referred.

➢ [3] ISO 6520-1, Welding and allied processes - Classification of geometric imperfections in metallic materials -
Part 1: Fusion welding.
➢ [4] ISO 8501-3, Preparation of steel substrates before application of paints and related products -Visual
assessment of surface cleanliness -Part 3: Preparation grades of welds, edges and other areas with surface
imperfections.

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Thank you
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