21 03 2011 Long Phu Turbine Island Proposal Comments 031811

PetroVietnam Technical Services Corporation
Long Phu 1
Coal Fired Thermal Power Plant
Comments to Turbine Island Proposal

Received 9 March 2011
File Number 172929.67.9110.00
No Reference Proposed Item Comment Initials

1 1.3 Applied Codes and Standards Confirm all Vietnamese codes and standards will AJH
be met for entire scope provided per TDD Part 2
Sect 1.7.
2 1.2 & TM-5 ASME PTC6 alternative test with This is technically acceptable. CL
condensated flow measurement basis is
applied for STG perofomance test.
3 2.1 Maximum wind speed is listed as 20m/s Confirm building design wind speed conforms to a MEH
peak gust speed of 37.2 m/s, Exposure C
4 2.2.1 and Toshiba would like to propose the one This is technically acceptable. CL
TM-2 casing steam turbine of HIP type, not HP &
IP separate casing type, as HIP turbine and
LP turbine, which is tandem compound
type.
5 2.2.2 and Condenser: Axial 1 passes and Single FEED VOL II-C Sect IV 1.02.01.02 and TDD Part AJH
4.2.1 and 5 casing 3 Section 2B 1.02.01.02 requires 2 passes and 2
TM-63 Condenser: One pass type shall be applied. separate shells. Toshiba should provide detail
condenser sizing calculations.
6 2.2.2 and 5 Condenser Hotwell Storage Capacity: FEED VOL II-C Sect IV 1.02.01.02 and TDD Part AJH
TM-65 2 minutes based on HEI 3 Section 2B 1.02.01.02 requires 5 minutes storage
capacity above outlet centerline. Toshiba should
comply with EPC requirement.
7 2.2.4 Deaerator storage capacity of 3 minutes This should be in accordance with EPC CL
specifications. It is recommended to have a 10
minute storage capacity. Calculations for storage
capacity should be furnished. In addition,
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Deaerator transient analysis should be conducted
and report submitted to PTSC for review.
8 2.2.5 & TM- Toshiba propose 1 x 100% stream of HP Technically Acceptable Deviation TM-23 is CL
3 & TM-23 Heaters as base offre based on internationally therefore acceptable.
acceptable standard configuration of super
critical steam turbine.
9 2.2.8 Closed cycle cooling water system (by Confirm Sojitz/ Daelim/ TSB will provide. AJH
others)
10 Toshiba Toshiba states that generator power factor Per the FEED document section 3.04.00 (pg 689) SS
Proposal is 0.90. Please note, that other places in the the power factor shall be 0.85
2.3.2 Toshiba proposal show 0.85 power factor.
11 2.3.1 & 2.3.2 Toshiba is including allowance for EPC specification (1.05.05) requires a zero test CL
measurement uncertainty. tolerance with no allowance for measurement
uncertainty.
12 2.3.2 Top HP heater outlet temperature This would be coordinated with the boiler supplier CL
13 2.3.2 and Toshiba has not included an external drain It appears from section 1.02.05 of the specs that LP CL
Heat cooler for heater LP1. heater #1 has an external drain cooler. This is
Balances typical and should improve the heat rate by a little.
14 2.3.2 and Toshiba proposes 566 deg C as reheat Pending on Boiler Efficiency CL
2.4.1 and 5 steam considering plant economical (HHV)determination. If the desired overall plant
TM-26 optimization. efficiency can not be achieved than 566 deg C
would not be acceptable.
15 Toshiba Toshiba states the frequency operation to Clarification from Toshiba is needed SS
Proposal be 47Hz to 52Hz but also takes exception
2.4.1 that frequency range is +/- 2%
16 2.4.1 & TM- Toshiba proposes the one casing steam This is technically acceptable CL
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2 turbine of HIP type, not HP & IP separate
casing type, as HIP turbine and LP turbine,
which is tandem compound type.
17 2.4.2 MSV/CV, CRV, LO unit, EHC oil unit, FEED VOL II-C Sect IB 3.02.00 states shall not AJH
seal oil pump, gland steam packing exceed 85 dBA at 1m. VOL II-A Sect IV 17.02.00
unloading valve all exceed 85 dBA. states plant boundary shall be limited to 75 dBA
daytime and 70 dBA night.
18 2.4.3 &TM- VWO is 105% Output of TMCR. Heat This needs to be coordinated with boiler supplier CL
21 Balance diagram 3GMG03867 shows 600 during the meeting.
MW for 100% TMCR Load.
Heat Balance diagram 3GMG03868 shows
630 MW for VWO.
Heat Balance diagram 3GMG03870 shows
647 MW for BMCR.
19 2.4.4 Gland Steam Exhaustor located near Gland TDD Part 3 Sectoin 2A 2.12.01 states both AJH
Steam Condenser exhausters to be permanently mounted to the
condenser.
20 3.1.4.2 Note 1 states scope of supply terminal point Complete H2 and CO2 system is responsibility of AJH
is inlet of H2 and CO2 gas valve station at Turbine Island Contractor.
ground floor below the generator.
21 3.1.5 Scope of Supply – Instrumentation and B&W is only providing instrumentation for “combustion MTV
Control System. air and fuels”. As discussed on 3/8/2011 we need
Sojitzs to adjust bid to supply all other instrumentation
in the boiler area.
22 3.2 “3.2 Supply by Others – The machinery The Chemical Dosing System was not mentioned LKB
and equipment which are mentioned in this in the proposal. This equipment is the
proposal will be supplied but any items responsibility of the Turbine Island Contractor.
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which are not mentioned in this
proposal . . . will not be supplied by The Turbine Island Contractor is to provide a
Toshiba.” proposal for a complete chemical dosing system
for all volatile treatment / combined water
treatment consisting of a carbohydrazide dosing
system, an aqua ammonia dosing system, and an
oxygen dosing system, in accordance with FEED
Document Volume II-B, Section IV, Technical
Specification for Chemical Dosing System.
23 3.2 “3.2 Supply by Others – The machinery The Steam and Water Analysis System was not LKB
and equipment which are mentioned in this mentioned in the proposal. This equipment is the
proposal will be supplied but any items responsibility of the Turbine Island Contractor.
which are not mentioned in this
proposal . . . will not be supplied by The Turbine Island Contractor is to provide a
Toshiba.” proposal for a complete steam and water analysis
system consisting of a sample panel with integral
wet (sample conditioning) and dry
(transmitter/monitor) sections, sample chiller, and
through-plant sample piping, in accordance with
FEED Document Volume II-E, Section VII,
Technical Specification for Steam and Water
Analysis System.
24 3.2.1 Proposal excludes foundations and Foundations, including turbine-generator pedestal, MEH
buildings will be designed, furnished, and erected by others.
Confirm design, detailing, and material supply for
all above-grade buildings and structures for the
turbine and heater bays and the central control
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building are included in the turbine island scope
25 3.2.1 Turbine base attachment Confirm that if the turbine requires a fixator for LRK
proper erection, the fixator frames are supplied by
the Turbine Island Contractor
26 3.2.2 Supplied by Others: Erection & This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
Installation, materials, tools, equipment, Contractor.
testing, personnel, etc.
27 3.2.3 Supplied by Others: Fire protection and fire This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
fighting equipment. Contractor.
28 3.2.3 Supplied by Others: Overhead traveling This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
crane. Contractor.
29 3.2.3 Supplied by Others: Air Compressor for This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
instrumentation Contractor.
30 3.2.3 Supplied by Others: Condensate This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
purification equipment (demineralizer and Contractor.
pre-filter system)
31 3.2.3 Supplied by Others: Turbine by-pass This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
system (HP / LP turbine by-pass Contractor.
desuperheating and pressure reducing
equipment)
32 3.2.3 Supplied by Others: Clean and dirty lube This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
oil storage and measuring tank, and Lube Contractor.
oil transfer pump
33 3.2.3 Supplied by Others: EHC oil storage and This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
measuring tank, and EHC oil transfer pump Contractor.
34 3.2.3 Supplied by Others: Operating platform This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
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Contractor.
35 3.2.3 Proposal excludes overhead traveling crane Confirm that two overhead traveling cranes for the MEH
turbine bay, plus all necessary smaller hoist and
cranes required for maintenance of turbine island
equipment are included in the turbine island scope
[Possible cost reduction item: are two turbine hall
cranes really required? A single common crane
and single central lift bay would save crane cost
and building length.]
36 3.2.3 Proposal excludes “operating platform” Confirm that design and supply of the steel MEH
framing, grating, metal deck form, reinforcement,
stairs, ladders, and all accessories required for the
operating floor and all other access floors and
platforms in the turbine and heater bays and the
central control building are included in the turbine
island scope
37 3.2.4 Supplied by Others: Boiler feedwater This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
pumps, motors, Booster pump for BFP’s Contractor.
38 3.2.4 Supplied by Others: Condensate water This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
pumps, motors Contractor.
39 3.2.4 Supplied by Others: Condensate Polishing The Condensate Polishing System is the LKB
Plant responsibility of the Turbine Island Contractor.
The Turbine Island Contractor is to provide a

proposal for a complete deep-bed condensate
polishing system with external regeneration
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equipment, in accordance with FEED Document
Volume II-C, Section VI, Technical Specification
for Condensate Polishing System.
40 3.2.5 Supplied by Others: Vacuum pumps and/or This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
steam air ejectors Contractor.
41 3.2.5 Supplied by Others: Condenser vacuum This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
breaker system Contractor.
42 3.2.5 Supplied by Others: Condenser cleaning This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
system Contractor.
43 3.2.6 Supplied by Others: Cooling water cooler This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
for closed cycle cooling water system Contractor.
44 3.2.6 Supplied by Others: Closed cycle cooling This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
water pump Contractor.
45 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Piping between turbine This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
lube oil reservoir to clean and dirty oil Contractor.
storage tank
46 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Desuperheating This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
equipment for each steam line and gland Contractor.
steam line
47 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Extraction steam This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
piping, non-return valves and isolation Contractor.
valves
48 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Main steam piping This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
Contractor.
49 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Cold reheat steam This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
piping, non-return valves and isolation Contractor.
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valve (if applicable)
50 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Condensate water This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
piping Contractor.
51 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Feed water piping This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
Contractor.
52 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Temperature control This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
equipment of : LP seal, gland seal, lube oil, Contractor.
control fluid.
53 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Root valves and tubing This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
for instruments installed on the piping Contractor.
supplied by others
54 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Installation of all root This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
valves and tubing mentioned above. Contractor.
55 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Compressed air piping, This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
valves, and supports Contractor.
56 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Hanger and supports This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
for instruments tubing Contractor.
57 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Turbine drain piping This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
and supports Contractor.
58 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Generator H2 and CO2 This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
supply and H2 cooling piping, valves and Contractor.
supports
59 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Atmospheric vent This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
piping for seal oil system, H2 and CO2 gas Contractor.
system, H2 measuring rack and air
detraining section
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60 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Condenser vacuum This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
breaker piping and supports Contractor.
61 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Auxiliary cooling This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
water piping, valves and supports Contractor.
62 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Atmospheric relief This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
piping Contractor.
63 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Weld rods for site This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
welding Contractor.
64 3.2.8 Supplied by Others: Hydrogen and carbon- This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
dioxide gas supply system with gas Contractor.
cylinders, manifolds pressure reduction
valves and relief valves.
65 3.2.9 Proposal excludes bus duct supports Confirm that design and supply all above-grade MEH
supports for bus duct, including that outside the
turbine building enclosure, is included in the
turbine island scope
66 Toshiba Toshiba states that the following items are These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal not in their scope:
3.2.9
 Step-up transformer
 Unit auxiliary transformer
 Generator main circuit equipment

including bus duct
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 Generator main breaker
 CTs and PTs not integrated to

generator and line-side cubicle
 Excitation bus duct between

excitation transformer and generator
via thyristor rectifier cubicle/field
circuit breaker cubicle
 Bus duct supports
 Batteries and chargers for the DC

equipment
 Control and auxiliary power supply

including UPS and their distribution
panels for turbine generator
auxiliaries
 External cables and cable trays for

power, control, and instrumentation
circuits
 Earthing grid electrode and
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conductor
 AC and DC motor starters for

turbine generator auxiliaries
 Protection relays for motors, step-up

transformer and unit auxiliary
transformer
 Connection cable or bus duct

between generator neutral bushing
terminals and neutral grounding
equipment
 Generator neutral terminal shorting

conductor
 Generator main circuit equipment

(IPB) between generator terminal
enclosure and generator neutral
grounding resistor cubicle
 Tariff metering system
Terminal lugs for external cable

connections for generator, motors, turbine,
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panel, and transformer
67 Toshiba Toshiba states that the embedment sleeve These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal for DC bus duct is not part of their scope
3.2.9
68 Toshiba Toshiba states that the generator terminal These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
Proposal enclosure is not part of their scope Clarification from Toshiba is needed because on
3.2.9 the tech. exceptions (TE-10), the terminal box
would be provided.
69 3.2.10 Supplied by others all external cable, piping As discussed on 3/8/2011 we need Sojitzs to adjust MTV
and tubing, cabel trays, and support hangers bid to include these items in the boiler area.
for power, control equipment, and
instrumentation.
70 3.2.11 Supplied by Others: Initial greases This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
Contractor.
71 3.2.11 Supplied by Others: Initial N2 & CO2 gas This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
Contractor.
72 3.2.11 Supplied by Others: Initial H2 gas This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
Contractor.
73 3.2.11 Supplied by Others: Temp piping for oil This is responsibility of the Turbine Island AJH
flush Contractor.
74 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal point on Confirm it is in Sojitz’s proposal to all extraction SLU
the steam extraction lines is the “turbine piping, supports and instrumentation from the
extraction nozzle outlets for heaters and turbine casing to the heaters, deaerator and all
process steam”. associated drain lines for a complete system.
75 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal points Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes all necessary SLU
for the gland steam system is at the “gland interconnecting piping, supports and
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steam seal control valve inlet, before inlet instrumentation for a complete system.
of condenser from GSS control valve, after
outlet of condenser to GSC”.
76 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal point is Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes the clean/dirty SLU
at the “inlet and outlet of the lube oil lube oil storage tank and the interconnecting
reservoir from/to dirty lube oil storage piping, supports and instrumentation for a
tank”. complete system.
77 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal points Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes the piping, SLU
for the atmospheric relief system are at the supports and instrumentation from the previously
“outlet connections on atmospheric relief mentioned equipment for a complete system.
valve, vapor extractor, gland steam
exhauster, seal oil system, H2 gas
measuring rack, air detraining section”.
78 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal points Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes a complete SLU
on the cooling water system are at “each closed cycle cooling water system (auxiliary
inlet and outlet flange”. cooling water system) including pumps, piping,
supports, head tank and instrumentation for all
closed cycle cooling water users in the turbine
island, boiler island and the FGD.
79 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal points Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes a complete SLU
for the instrument and control air systems is instrument air system including piping to the
“at the instrument air users”. instrument and service air users in the turbine and
boiler buildings.
80 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal point for Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes a complete SLU
the condensate line is at the “condenser condensate system including condensate pumps,
hotwell outlet”. and all interconnecting piping, supports and
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instrumentation from the condenser to the pumps
to the LP heaters for a complete system.
81 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal points Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes all SLU
for the LP heaters are at “each inlet and interconnecting piping, supports and
outlet of condensate line”. instrumentation from the condensate pumps to the
LP heaters, between LP heaters and to the
deaerator for a complete system.
82 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal points at Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes all SLU
the deaerator are at the “inlet of dearator of interconnecting piping on the inlet from the LP
condensate line” and the “outlet of heaters to the deaerator and on the outlet to the HP
deaerator to feedwater pump suction”. heaters for a complete system.
on the HP heaters are at “each inlet and interconnecting piping, supports, and
outlet of feedwater line”. instrumentation from the deaerator to the HP
heaters, between the HP heaters and from the HP
heaters to the Boiler Feedwater Pumps for a
complete system.
on the steam extraction lines are at “each interconnecting piping, supports and
inlet of each heater (except for LP 1 and instrumentation from the turbine casing to each
LP2 heaters). heater for a complete system
on the heater drain lines are at “each outlet interconnecting piping, supports and
and inlet of heater”. instrumentation to and from each heater for a
complete system.
86 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal point on Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes a complete SLU
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the condenser vacuum breaker system is at vacuum breaker system including all piping,
the “nozzle at condenser casing”. supports and instrumentation.
87 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal point on Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes a complete SLU
the shaft seal oil piping and instrument shaft seal oil and instrumentation system including
piping are at the “outlet connections on all piping, supports and instrumentation.
Toshiba supply equipment”.
88 3.3.1 Proposal states Toshiba’s terminal point on Confirm Sojitz’s proposal includes complete SLU
the hydrogen and carbon dioxide gas piping hydrogen and carbon dioxide gas and
and instrument piping is at the “outlet instrumentation systems.
connections on Toshiba supply equipment”.
89 3.3.1 Clarify proposal regarding anchor bolt Confirm that design and supply of the anchor bolt MEH
templates templates, as well as anchor bolts and embeds, for
the turbine-generator equipment is included in the
turbine island scope
90 4.5.1 “Basic Design Description of I&C System” The Condensate Polishing System, Electrostatic MTV
section 4.1 PLC’s The following systems Precipitator System, Water Treatment Plant, Waste
Water Treatment Plant, and Electro-chlorination Plant
shall be PLC controlled. will be controlled from the DCS.
*Unit Plant Auxiliary Systems
- Condensate Polishing System
- Electrostatic Precipitator System
- Ash Handling System
- Soot Blower System
*Common Plant Auxiliary Systems
- Coal Handling System
- Coal Ship and Loading System
- Water Treatment Plant
- Waste Water Treatment Plant
- Electro-chlorination Plant
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- In take Screen System
- Compressed Air System
- Switchyard
- HVAC System
91 4.5.2 “Basic Concept of Contorl and Monitoring Control architecture drawing 11/2010-K-I-DWG-0010 in MTV
System” section 3.2 item 1. EPC contract requires 5 Operator stations for Unit
Control and 5 Operator stations for Common. Please
Operator Workstations per Unit;
add necessary operator stations to comply.
 'Four (4) PC's for OPSs (Operator
station) and SVS (Server station) Contract Volume II-E section II item 2.01.03 requires
(with 21 inch LCD) Six (06) Large Video Screen terminals of about 70” size
 'One (1) PC for OPS with Large in control room. Sojitz proposal only has 2 please add
Screen 4.
Operator Workstations per Common;

 Three (3) PC's for OPS and SVS
(with 21 inch LCD)
 One (1) PC for OPS with Large
Screen
92 4.5.2 “Basic Concept of Control and Monitoring BMS/BPS control will be in the DCS. B&W will supply MTV
System” section 6.3. BMS/BPS is provide SAMA logics and graphics for implementation in the
DCS. Please confirm Toshiba can do this.
by boiler supplier, which has datalink
interface to DCS.
93 4.2.5 (5) The subject section implies that the Provide water boxes with the tubes pre-installed to SLU
condenser is to have tubes supplied loose allow for ease of field installation. Waterbox
and completely field installed. should also be shop-fabricated to the maximum
extent practical for shipping.
94 No reference Scope Gap B&W is not providing a CEMS system. Please MTV
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adjust Sojitz proposal to include CEMS system.
95 No reference Scope Gap EPC contract requests an option for a simulator. MTV
Please provide option price for a simulator
96 No reference Scope gap Provide proposal modification to design and MEH
supply a pneumatic ash transfer system for bottom
ash from the outlet of the BA intermediate bin to
the target box on the BA storage silo
97 Toshiba Toshiba states that the generator control Per section 3.08.05 (pg. 1216) of the FEED SS
Proposal panel will not have witness test at the document, the owner or its representatives have the
Sys. Design manufacturer’s shop right to inspect the equipment at the point of
Description manufacture and witness factory and other such
for tests.
Generator,
Excitation,
Control and
Protection
Relay
System 3.4
98 Toshiba Toshiba states that the generator and These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal transformer protection relay system will not
Sys. Design be provided
Description
for
Generator,
Excitation,
Control and
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Protection
Relay 4.3
99 Toshiba Toshiba states that the generator protection Per section 3.08.05 (pg. 1216) of the FEED SS
Proposal relay system will not have witness tests at document, the owner or its representatives have the
Sys. Design the manufacturer’s shop right to inspect the equipment at the point of
Description manufacture and witness factory and other such
for tests.
Generator,
Excitation,
Control and
Protection
Relay 4.5
100 5 TM-4 Temporary steam blowing piping will be This would be discussed during meeting in CL
excluded in Toshiba's scope of supply. This coordination with the boiler vendor.
shall be provided by erection contractor of
steam turbine.
101 5 TM-6 As per V2AS1 0 3.0 - 4.0 of guarantee item To be discussed. Need to be back-to-back with CL
which is "CATEGORY-A", "CATEGORY- EPC contract.
B", the performance guarantee of partial
load such as 80%, 60%, 50% TMCR shall
not defined. So we will execute limited
performance guarantee item.
102 5 TM-7 FEED indicates: The allowable stresses Confirm with PTSC what value was intended. AJH
shall be reduced so that life expectancy to
minimum 2,00,000 hours of operation can
be achieved. The Bidder shall discuss this
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aspect in his technical proposal.” Toshiba
notes they will be in accordance with
ASTM/ASME B31.1.
103 5 TM-8 Toshiba indicates “It is not practical to Later AJH
apply first priming coat within four hours
considering preparation of painting
procedure, we would like to apply the first
primer within eight hours after cleaning in
accordance with Toshiba's standard
process.”
104 5 TM-9 Toshiba indicates “The paint specification Later AJH
for the equipment shall be applied based on
manufacturing standard considering
environment condition specified in the
specification. Toshiba's standard painting
specification is attached in our proposal.”
105 5 TM-10 In case any local standard is published before To be discussed in meeting CL
contract bidder shall have sufficient time to
evaluate the impacts of such local standards
106 5 TM-11 Turbine rotor balance test will be conducted This is technically acceptable CL
in Toshiba's factory. CAAS(Conputer Aided
Assembly System) will be applied for steam
turbine, instead of actual trial assembly.
Please refer to supplemental document
attached in our proposal.
107 5 TM-12 The hydrostatic test shall be conducted for FEED V2A Sect 4 18.01.08 states pressure parts AJH
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1.5 times design pressure for 30 minutes. connected to pumping main shall be subjected to
hydraulic testing at a pressure of 150% shutoff
head for not less than 1 hour.
108 5 TM-13 Any design This is a commercial item and need to be discussed CL
changes/modifications/improvements from during the meeting
the contracted specifiation shall be subject to
cost adjustments and time of extensions.
109 5 TM-14 FEED requires “Manufacturer's standard PTSC to address CL
format for detailed quality plan shall be
applied regarding manufacturing
equipment.”
110 5 TM-15 Toshiba states “Further detailed Discuss with PTSC CL
explanation for this requirement are
necessary, because scope of this
requirement are not clear. Toshiba's
quotation does not include this requirment.”
111 5 TM-16 Toshiba states “This requirement shall not PTSC should be allowed to observe qualification CL
applied to all equipment which are testing.
provided and/or manufactured by Toshiba,
because Thoshiba will guarantee equipment
quality including welding quality.”
112 5 TM-17 Toshiba : “IBR, which is not indicated in Later CL
reference standard specified in Vol. 2A
Section IV, "ANNEXURE-I : LIST OF
STANDARD FOR REFERENCE", shall
not be applied to the Turbine Island
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equipment.”
113 5 TM-18 Toshiba : “This requirement shall not Later CL
applied to all equipment which are
provided and/or manufactured by Toshiba.”
114 5 TM-19 Toshiba indicates “Further clalification and Toshiba to advise why they cannot provide. AJH
discussion are required, because some
items of these requirements are too much
from Toshiba's standard test records, it is
very difficult for Toshiba to follow this
requirement..”
115 5 TM-21 Toshiba requested Owner to coordinate This needs to be coordinated with boiler supplier CL
BMCR values as 102% flow of VWO during the meeting.
condition, considering VWO output
guarantee of 105% of TMCR with 3% make
up at 57mmHg condenser pressure. In order
to guarantee VWO output of 105% TMCR,
BMCR margin as 102% flow of VWO is
necessary.
116 5 TM-22 Make up flow at performance test condition To be discussed with Toshiba during meeting CL
shall not be limited. Correction from base
condition shall be applied with normal
manner.
117 5 TM-24 Toshiba indicates “Owner requires this To be discussed with Toshiba during meeting CL
LTSA requirement to the EPC contractor,
this is not included in Toshiba's Quotation.”
118 5 TM-25 The minimum continuous operation load is 40 To be discussed. Need to be back-to-back with CL
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% TMCR for our proposed STG system. EPC contract.
119 5 TM-27 Toshiba indicates “Tubes parallel to turbine To be discussed with Toshiba during meeting CL
shaft”
120 5 TM-28 Toshiba proposes 2×100% liquid ring Technically acceptable CL
Vacuum pumps with AC motors.
121 5 TM-29 High Pressure Heater drains: Toshiba Later CL
proposes standard drain system will be
applied. Please refer to P&IDs attached
proposal. FEED requires heater shall
feature an automated alternate route direct
to the deaerator for operation when the
lower pressure heater is out of service.
122 5 TM-30 High Pressure Heater drains: Toshiba Later CL
proposes standard drain system will be
applied. Please refer to P&IDs attached
proposal.FEED requires each heater shall
also feature an automated alternate route
direct to the condenser for “heater out”
operation.
123 5 TM-31 110% overspeed test shall be carried out in FEED V2C S1A, 2.04.02 states overspeed test of AJH
accordance with TSB standard test rotor with blades at not less than 120% rated speed.
procedure. B&V Spec 15561.2.2.3 states factory overspeed
tests shall be run at 20% above synchronous speed.
15561.2.3.1 states turbine generator unit shall be
designed to withstand stresses caused by an
overspeed of 20% above normal synchronous
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speed without reducing the life of the machine.
124 5 TM-32 Internationally acceptable standard To be discussed during meeting CL
(proposed by Toshiba), proven and reliable
blades material and design shall be applied
to the steam turbine blades, which can be
renewable.
125 5 TM-33 Double valves for steam drains of steam FEED V2C S1A 2.06.08 requires double valves at AJH
turbine and heaters will be provide above all steam drains above 28bar. B&V Spec
40bar in accordance with TSB standard. 15561.2.11.3 states shutoff valving for all misc
drain, control, and instrument piping furnished as
accessories shall double valved.
126 5 TM-34 Toshiba proposes We propose based on the Later AJH
application of Fat Acid Ester, which is fire
resistant fluid, as contorol electrohydraulic
fluid.
127 5 TM-35 The rotor stresses are automatically and This is technically acceptable. CL
continuously calculated.
In the case of rotor stress increase, warning
sign will be announced and plant operation
shall be controlled manually by operators.
128 5 TM-36 Toshiba will not provide jacking oil pump Later CL
(JOP) because we judged that JOP is not
required for this size of our offered STG for
Long Phu 1 Project.
129 5 TM-37 Toshiba to provide oil supply piping as Later CL
pressure piping will be applied seamless
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steel.
130 5 TM-38 Toshiba indicates “Lube oil piping will be Later CL
shielded, guarded, and/or routed in such a
way so that any potential leakage will not
spray hot surfaces. But, the supply oil
piping which is close the hot parts such as
intermediate turbine gland will be run
within the return oil pipe.”
131 5 TM-39 Toshiba indicates “High water level switch Later CL
in gland steam condenser isn't provied in
our proven design. We provide the drain
trap and piping to condenser in our system.
“
132 5 TM-40 HP Heater # 8 will be installed outdoor on FEED VOL II-C Sect II 1.01.03 says all heaters AJH
the turbine house roof. will be installed within turbine house.
133 5 TM-41 Toshiba will apply drying of heater instead Later CL
of a water-soluble rust preventive
compound of hydraulic test because
environmental limitation of emission need
to be considered.
134 5 TM-42 Toshiba “We consider that anti-flash Later CL
baffling is not necessarybased on
manufacturer's standard design. “
135 5 TM-43 We would like to comply minimum HEI code should also be complied CL
thickness of ASME Code.
136 5 TM-44 Toshiba indicates “Circular grooves is not Later CL
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applied to HP Heater because the tube of
HP Heater is welded and expanded to
tubesheet.”
137 5 TM-45 Toshiba proposes “We would like to use Later
stainless plate TP304 as sliding plate.”
138 5 TM-46 Toshiba proposes “We consider that the Later
supporting suddle for dismantlement is not
necessary because the dismantlement for
tube bundle is not too often.
141 5 TM-49 For low pressure heater tubes, Toshiba Later AJH
wishes to use ASME SA688/SA688M,
Grade TP304 - 0.05 (maximum carbon) for
LP1&2(in cond.neck), ASME
SA556/SA556M, Grade C2 for LP3&4 .
FEED requires ASME SA213/SA213M,
Grade TP304 - 0.05 (maximum carbon.)
142 5 TM-50 For High pressure heater tubes, Toshiba Later AJH
wishes to use ASME SA556/SA556M,
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Grade C2. FEED requires ASME
SA688/SA688M, Grade TP304 - 0.05
(maximum carbon) or ASME
SA213/SA213M, Grade TP304 - 0.05
(maximum carbon).
143 5 TM-51 Offered Deaerator is one shell type and FEED V2C S2 4.01.01a) requires tray- AJH
have both deaerating section and storage typedeaerating section with trays, tray supports,
capacity in one shell. supports, saddles, and pipe connection to storage
tank of heater. B&V Spec 15523.2 states deaerator
shall be direct contact tray type with integral vent
condensing equipment and a separate water storage
section.
144 5 TM-52 Equalizer pipes are not provided because of FEED V2C S2 4.06.02 requires sufficient equalizer AJH
one shell type Deaerator. pipes between deaerating heater and storage tank.
B&V Spec 15523.2 states deaerator shall be direct
contact tray type with integral vent condensing
equipment and a separate water storage section.
145 5 TM-53 Deaerator supports: Toshiba wishes to use Later AJH
stainless plate TP304 as sliding plate.
FEED requires each sliding saddle shall
have Teflon slide plates.
146 5 TM-54 Deaerator tray assembly materials, Toshiba Later AJH
wishes to use stainless TP410. FEED
requires stainless steel AISI 430, either
riveted or formed.
147 5 TM-55 Deaerator tray supports materials, Toshiba Later AJH
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wishes to use stainless TP410. FEED
requires 316L stainless steel or 430
stainless steel
148 5 TM-56 Deaerator fabrication, Toshiba wishes to Later AJH
apply magnetic particle inspection and fluid
penetrant test. FEED requires wet
fluorescence magnetic particle of interior of
all shell longitudinal and girth weld seams.
149 5 TM-57 Toshiba indicates “The performance test for Later AJH
BFP is conducted at a manufacture’s
factory only.
150 5 TM-58 Toshiba indicates “We will provide Later AJH
mechanical seals which is selected by pump
manufacture.”
151 5 TM-59 Toshiba proposes 2 x 100 % capacity Technical acceptable.
condensate pump will be proposed. FEED
requires “(Condensate Pumps) Furnish and
install 3x50% condensate pumps each
complete with electric motor drive and
accessories as specified.”
152 5 TM-60 Toshiba indicates “Operating speed of Later CL
pumps shall be determined by pump
manufacture considering equipment proven
design and reliability.” FEED requires
“Unless otherwise approved by Owner, for
single suction first-stage impeller design
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the maximum operating speed shall be
1,000 rpm. For double suction first-stage
impeller design, the maximum operating
speed shall be 1,500 rpm.”
153 5 TM-61 Toshiba comments that the requirement of Agreed. This is acceptable for motor driven boiler CL
separate exhaust inlet for boiler feed pump feed pump.
turbine is not applicable because BFPs are
driven by Motor not steam turbine
154 5 TM-62 Condenser tube material and gauge: Tube material should be in accordance with FEED CL
Toshiba proposes to apply 0.5mm of Tube document which requires Tube material and gauge,
thickness to condensing and air removal BWG • Condensing section Titanium Grade 2 / 22
section, 0.7mm for impingement area that • Air removal section Titanium Grade 2 / 18 •
is peripheral row as the thickness is Impingement areas Titanium Grade 2 / 18.
Toshiba proven standard.
155 5 TM-64 Toshiba proposes “Maximum O2 and Turbine Island shall comply with FEED CL
noncondensable gases is 21ppb under requirements “Maximum O2 and noncondensable
following conditions because Toshiba gases in condensate sampled at condensate pump
consider that it is difficult to satisfy the discharge, ppb: 7”
maximum limitation of O2 and
noncondensable gas after studied past plant
operating data. - Vacuum control is not
carried out. - Any drains containing O2 do
not enter from other connected lines. - CW
Temp is not abnormally low. - Amount of
air inleak is not too much (within normal
level). - Operating condition is in stable
load. - 50% and higher load.”
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156 5 TM-66 Condenser tubes: Toshiba will test in Later AJH
accordance with ASB338 grade 2 only.
FEED requires testing in accordance with
ASTM B338 for the appropriate grades.
157 5 TM-67 Toshiba wishes to weld connections are Later AJH
covered with temporary prastic caps.
FEED requires “Welded connections shall
be covered with 18-gage metal caps sealed
to the connection.”
158 5 TM-68 Same as TM-63 Refer to Comment to TM-63
159 5 TM-69 Condenser material: Toshiba wishes to use Later AJH
use JIS SS400 carbon steel. FEED requires
ASTM A285 Grade C, or ASTM A516
Grade 70, steel plate.
160 5 TM-70 Toshiba: “We would like to apply flange Later AJH
cover type manholes.”
161 5 TM-71 Toshiba: “Please confirm that the steel Later AJH
cover is welded to shell plate. We Toshiba
has no experience to provide this access
opening, we will not provide this for this
offer.”
162 5 TM-72 Condenser waterbox & waterbox covers: Later AJH
Toshiba wishes to use JIS SS400 carbon
steel. FEED requires ASTM A285, Grade
C, or ASTM A516/A516M, Grade 70, steel
plate.
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163 5 TM-73 Condenser tube sheets support plates: Later AJH
Toshiba wishes to use JIS SS400 carbon
steel. FEED requires free machining steel
plate, ASTM A285, Grade C.
164 5 TM-74 Condenser tube sheet: Toshiba wishes to Later AJH
use “tube sheet welded to shell plate
because base plate of titanium clad tube
sheet is carbon steel that can be welded and
can be sealed tightly.” FEED requires tube
sheet to be bolted to the shell.
165 5 TM-75 Condenser tube sheet: Toshiba wishes to Later AJH
use JIS TP270H of titanium cladding metal.
FEED requires titanium in accordance with
ASTM B265.
166 5 TM-76 Condenser clad steel plate: Toshiba claims Later AJH
“Titanium clad steel plate is manufactured
as JIS G3603 that is equivalent to ASTM
B898. Base metal is manufactured as JIS
SGV480 that is equivalent to ASTM
A516M Gr.70. Cladding metal thickness is
4mm that is Toshiba standard.” FEED
requires “As an alternative to being solid
titanium, titanium clad steel plate,
manufactured from ASTM A285, Grade C,
or ASTM A516/A516M, Grade 70 base
metal with Grade 2 titanium cladding in
accordance with ASTM B898 may be
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utilized. Cladding metal thickness shall be
not less than 6 mm.”
167 5 TM-77 Toshiba : “The hole of tube sheet is no Later AJH
groove and all holes is same.”
168 5 TM-78 Toshiba : “The inlet end of tube is not Later AJH
belled because the both ends become
smooth after welded to hole of tube sheet.
In case of titanium tubes condenser Toshiba
has no experience to apply belled end since
the titanium tube hase enough strength and
erosion by inlet attack is not occured.”
169 5 TM-79 TSB will supply 3.2mm thickness carbon FEED V2C S4 2.07.06.03 states belt shall be AJH
plate as protection shield for rubber belt protected from velocity erosion by exhaust steam
(between turbine neck piece and condenser with 9mm stainless-steel protection shield. B&V
dome section). Spec 15521.2.5.14 (3rd para) states one stainless
steel expansion joint shall be furnished if required
to limit loads. It also states expansion joints shall
be protected with stainless steel liners (minimum
3mm thickness) and exterior covers (minimum
5mm thickness).
170 5 TM-80 Extraction piping in the condenser neck: Later AJH
Toshiba wishes to use ASTM A106M Gr.B
and Rolled JIS SS400 carbon plate for
extraction piping. FEED requires
“Fabricated from ASTM A106/A106M,
Grade B, standard weight seamless or
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electric resistance welded pipe complete
with standard weight butt-weld fittings.”
171 5 TM-81 Toshiba : “Lagging is installed in Later AJH
accordance with our standard.”
172 5 TM-82 TSB to apply (condenser) thermal sleeve FEED V2C S4 2.07.10.01 requires thermal sleeves AJH
nozzle to more than 350 deg C temperature. be provided on all condenser connections operating
at 200 deg C or higher. B&V Spec 15521 (4th
para) states thermal sleeves shall be provided on all
connections with fluid temperatures greater than
150 deg C.
173 5 TM-83 Toshiba : “Based on Toshiba standard, Later AJH
Toshiba will provide an off-line coalescer
filter type oil purifier. Almost of all our
experience to supply oil purifier is
coalescer filter type. We will apply 6000
l/h coalescer filter type oil purifier.”
174 Toshiba Frequency Variation -6% to 4%. Toshiba PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical stated the frequency variation will be -2% is acceptable.
Deviation to +2%.
TE-6
175 Toshiba Toshiba has calculated the generator PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical withstanding value [(I2/IN)^2 x t ] to be is acceptable.
Deviation 5.82
TE-7
176 Toshiba Toshiba has calculated the generator PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical withstanding value [(I2/IN)^2 x t ] to be is acceptable.
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Deviation 5.82
TE-8
177 Toshiba Toshiba is deviating from the specification Toshiba shall supply a non magnetic enclosure as SS
Technical and using a magnetic steel enclosure to specified by the FEED document.
Deviation house the generator terminals. The FEED
TE-10 document requires a non-magnetic
enclosure.
178 Toshiba Frequency variation is from 47Hz to 52 Hz. PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical Toshiba has stated that the frequency will is acceptable.
Deviation range from 48.5 Hz to 51.5 Hz.
TE-16
179 Toshiba Toshiba is stating that the min capacitive PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see what SS
Technical MVAR value is in discrepancy between the appropriate MVAR rating should be.
Deviation sections 3.14.2 and 3.04.00 of the FEED
TE-17 document.
180 Toshiba Frequency Variation -6% to 4%. Toshiba PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical stated the frequency variation will be -2% is acceptable.
Deviation to +2%.
TE-18
181 Toshiba FEED document states that AVR voltage PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical range will be -15% to +10%. Toshiba is acceptable
Deviation states that the AVR set point voltage range
TE-19 will be +/- 10%
182 Toshiba Toshiba shows a discrepancy in the FEED PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see which SS
Technical document for nominal exciter response value is correct.
Deviation between greater than 2 seconds or greater
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TE-20 than 3 seconds.
183 Toshiba Toshiba clarifies that the thyristor rectifier Toshiba to verify if this meets the FEED document SS
Technical is capable of operating at rated excitation specification.
Deviation current with one rectifier element out of
TE-21 service.
184 Toshiba Toshiba clarifies that the DC ESOP will be Toshiba to confirm that 2x100% AC pumps and 1 SS
Technical used as a backup if the oil pressure drops in x 100% DC pump will be provided per the FEED
Deviation the main pump. document. PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to
TE-22 see if this is acceptable.
185 Toshiba Toshiba clarifies that their thyristor rectifier PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical is capable of operating at rated excitation is acceptable
Deviation current with one rectifier element out of
TE-29 service. Toshiba does not want to provide a
redundant excitation system.
186 Toshiba The FEED document states that if there is PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical any fault in the AVR that excitation should is acceptable
Deviation still be able to operate at full capacity.
TE-30 Toshiba clarifies that their thyristor rectifier
is capable of operating at rated excitation
current with one rectifier element out of
service.
187 Toshiba Frequency variation is from 47Hz to 52 Hz. PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical Toshiba has stated that the frequency will is acceptable.
Deviation range from 48.5 Hz to 51.5 Hz.
TE-31
188 Toshiba FEED document states that the voltage PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
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Technical change shall be less that 0.5% when the is acceptable.
Deviation AVR switches from auto to manual.
TE-32 Toshiba clarifies the AVR will not be
transferred to manual.
189 Toshiba Toshiba takes exception in providing a PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical power system stabilizer. is acceptable.
Deviation
TE-33
190 Toshiba Toshiba clarifies that the AVR will not be PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical transferred to manual. is acceptable.
Deviation
TE-34
191 Toshiba FEED document requires redundancy in the PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical power thyristor converter. Toshiba clarifies is acceptable.
Deviation that their thyristor rectifier is capable of
TE-35 operating at rated excitation current with
one rectifier element out of service.
192 Toshiba Toshiba states only 4 sets of current PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical transformers can be installed instead of 7 is acceptable. Sojitz to provide a one-line drawing
Deviation on the line side of the generator showing how 4 CTs will be connected.
TE-36
193 Toshiba Toshiba states only 4 sets of current PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
Technical transformers can be installed instead of 5 is acceptable. Sojitz to provide a one-line drawing
Deviation on the neutral side of the generator showing how 4 CTs will be connected.
TE-37
194 Toshiba Toshiba will not perform rotating electrical PTSC will need to discuss with PVN to see if this SS
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Technical performance test or the coupled test is acceptable.
Deviation between AVR and generator
TE-38-
52,55-63,65-
66,71-72
195 TC-1 Dedicated system for transmitter Please adjust bid to provide. This is a requirement of MTV
maintenance is not included in DCS scope. the EPC contract
196 TC-3 For HT motors and their driven equipment Please adjust bid to provide separate vibration MTV
which are BFP and CEP in TG island monitoring system for HT motor equipment. (example
would be a Bently Nevada type System) Toshiba
scope, vibration measuring instrument will proprietary system is acceptable also.
be provided and signals will be connected
to DCS for monitoring
197 TC-5 We clarify that MIS was not included in the Please provide option price for MIS system. MTV
proposed DCS scope.
198 SPC- Ash loading, limestone unloading and Confirm ash, limestone, and gypsum handling MEH
GCHXVLP- handling, and gypsum loading systems are systems are included in the design and furnish
0001, 1.2.1 not included in the list of common systems scope of the control system in the turbine island
requiring control scope
199 9.1.G-04 Cooling Water Consumption Missing data for “Daelim’s Scope" AJH
200 9.1.G-04 Cooling Water Consumption Missing data for H2 Gas Generation System to be AJH
supplied by Turbine Island Contractor.
201 9.1.G-05 Instrument Air Consumption Missing data for “Daelim’s Scope" AJH
202 9.1.G-05 Instrument Air Consumption Clarify list data is per 1 unit. AJH
203 9.1.G-05 Instrument Air Consumption Note 1: FEED V2-I Section II 5.02.00 states the air dryer AJH
Instrument Air pressure is 9 bar(g). outlet shall be 8 kg/sq.cm (7.84 barg). TSB should
note that FEED V2-I S2 5.08.00 states equipment
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operating on instrument air and service air system
shall be designed for a pressure range of 5.5
kg/sq.cm(g) to 120% of rated discharge pressure of
each compressor.
204 9.1.G-06 Equipment List TSB to confirm data includes “Daelim’s Scope". AJH
Air compressors, air dryers, Closed cycle cooling
water heat exchanger, etc. should be included.
205 9.1.G-08 Insulation Spec: Section 2 Cladding FEED V2D Section II 4.02.02 f) table shows AJH
thickness for Piping t=0.6, Equipment various minimum thickness cladding sheets for
t=8.0mm pipe dependent on sheet metal circumference.
206 9.1.G-09 QA/QC Missing weld specifications to be used by Turbine AJH
Island Contractor.
207 9.1.G-11 Vendor List TSB should note that FEED Vol II-A Section V AJH
1.04.04 requirements; including (1st para) major
suppliers shall be mutually discussed & approval
will be given by the Owner during contract
negotiation prior to LOA.
208 9.1.G-12, Anchor bolts and embeds are listed as Confirm anchor bolts and embedments will be MEH
D11F unpainted galvanized or, at minimum, shop-primed for
corrosion protection
209 9.2.M-19 General Arrangement of Turbine Building Unit 1 and Unit 2 orientation is shown West to AJH
East. FEED DWG-2101 and 2110 show East to
West unit numbering.
210 9.2.M-19 General Arrangement of Turbine Building Mechanical equipment tagging is shown numbered AJH
West to East. Tagging should match unit
orientation.
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211 Toshiba Drawing appears to show Daelim is Revise proposal to not include this piping. The SLU
Preliminary providing the main steam piping from STG terminal points of the critical piping should be at
Flow to the main steam stop valves, the cold the main steam stop valve transition pieces, the
Diagram reheat piping from the turbine casing to the CRH outlet nozzles on the turbine casing and the
1GMH01054 STG, and the HRH piping from the STG to inlet transition pieces on the HRH intercept valves.
the intercept valves.
212 Toshiba General Arrangement shows the circulating Circulating water piping will come above grade SLU
Supplied water piping entering and exiting the outside of the building foundation and enter and
General building from a basement under the exit the building horizontally from the south side
Arrangement condenser. of the building. This will reduce the cost and
of Turbine construction complexity of the foundation and
Building piping design.
213 Toshiba General Arrangement shows the condenser Provide a dual pass condenser with tubes running SLU
Supplied to have tubes parallel to the axis of the perpendicular to the condenser. This will allow for
General turbine. the circulating water piping to enter and exit on the
Arrangement same side of the condenser.
of Turbine
Building
214 GA Circ water piping is shown exiting the Revise proposal to reflect circ water piping exiting MEH
Drawings bottom of the condenser into a basement the side of the condenser, above ground floor, and
with piping under the foundation routed through the side of the building before
turning below grade
215 GA Deaerator floor is shown unenclosed TDD Part-2, 4.11.8 requires Turbine Building to be MEH
Drawings fully enclosed. Confirm that building to be
provided in scope is fully enclosed
216 GA No elevators are shown in the Turbine TDD Part-2, 1.6.14.2 requires a personnel elevator MEH
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Drawings Building and stairs appear inadequate to at either end of the Turbine Building. Confirm that
meet NFPA 101 specified elevators are included in the turbine
island scope and that building will be designed to
meet NFPA Life Safety egress requirements
217 GA Turbine Building heater bay is shown Confirm scope split with boiler island, appears MEH
Drawings separate from mill bay more appropriate to include mill bay with boiler
structure as shown on turbine GAs than as an
adjunct to turbine building
218 GA Turbine Building Ventilation Ventilation fans are shown in the area of the coal LRK
Drawings silos which will only work if there is an exterior
wall on Column Line TF. This wall was intended
to be an interior wall according to Drawing 2101.
219 GA Turbine Building Ventilation Power roof ventilators are shown on the roof, but LRK
Drawings no means of access is provided.
220 Heat None Part load heat balances should be provided. CL
Balances
221 Temporary Chemical Cleaning Piping Revise proposal to include design and supply of SLU
temporary chemical cleaning piping.
222 Insulation and Lagging Confirm that proposal includes the design and SLU
supply of insulation and lagging for all equipment
and piping supplied under this contract.
223 Elect. Scope Scope drawing shows the transmission lines Confirm that Sojitz will provide transmission lines SS
Drawing between the GSUs and station transformer and relaying for the 3 switchyard lines.
(Attachment to be in Sojitz scope
1)
224 Elect. Scope Scope drawing shows a table of boiler loads Confirm Sojitz will adjust their equipment based SS
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Drawing upon the final electrical loads received from the
(Attachment boiler island and balance of plant contractors and
1) maintain the specified electrical design margins.
225 Elect. Scope Attached drawings show scope split Sojitz will need to discuss with boiler contractor SS
Drawing between boiler and turbine contractor on and agree with specified scope split.
(Attachment the boiler one-line (provided by
2) B&W/GEDI)
226 General Battery duty cycles Sojitz shall provide the cost impact for a 3 hour SS
Comment duty cycle
227 General Equipment in central electrical & control The gear in the central electrical & control building SS
Comment building shall be arranged with the Unit 1 equipment on the
East (closer to Unit 1) and the Unit 2 equipment on
the West (closer to Unit 2).
228 General Grounding Sojitz shall confirm that they are designing the SS
Comment underground grounding system under the Turbine
Island.
229 General Anchor Bolts Toshiba shall provide an anchor bolt template SS
Comment drawing for the turbine/generator.
230 Boiler The instrument conduit and instrument These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal valve after the primary valve and the power
Interface supply to all local instruments at the boiler.
Questions
231 Boiler Local Instrument panels, local instrument These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal junction boxes in boiler and auxiliaries including the power supply to all local instruments.
Interface except those supplied with the boiler’s aux.
Questions equipment.
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232 Boiler Flow transmitters, conduit, and instrument These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal valves after the primary valves in the boiler
Interface and auxiliaries
Questions
233 Boiler The power supply to all local instrument These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal panel and junction boxes for the boiler
Interface furnace flame TV
Questions
234 Boiler The power supply to all local instrument These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal panel and junction boxes for the boiler gas
Interface temperature probe
Questions
235 Boiler The furnace pressure transmitter and the These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal conduit and cables after the pressure switch
Interface
Questions
236 Boiler The fuel oil pressure switch and the conduit These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal and cables after the pressure switch
Interface
Questions
237 Boiler Cables between two pieces of equipment These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal that are not supplied by the boiler
Interface contractor. Cables between Supplier’s
Questions equipment in boiler turbine/CCR and DCS.
Cable tray in central control room. Cables
between Supplier’s equipments in Boiler
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and Auxiliaries and DCS.
238 Boiler CEMS system and DCS System. DCS Scope shall be by Sojitz. DCS remote I/O SS
Proposal cabinets will be installed in Boiler area by Sojitz
Interface in order to minimize hard wired cables runs back to
Questions CCR.
239 Boiler Cable tray and power supply for bypass These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
Proposal control system Cables between control cabinet and local
Interface equipment of bypass system will be supplied by
Questions Supplier.
240 Boiler The cables between Chemical Dosing & These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim SS
Proposal Sampling System and DCS
Interface
Questions
241 Boiler 10kV cables from main plant to ESP step- These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
Proposal down transformers. 400V emergency
Interface supply power cable from main plant to ESP
Questions emergency power supply switchgear.
242 Boiler Cable between ESP and non-ESP. These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
Proposal Communication in Boiler and Auxiliaries
Interface System.
Questions
243 Boiler 10 kV Cables from main plant to FGD 10 These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
Proposal kV switchgear. 400V emergency supply
Interface power cable from main plant to FGD ESP
Questions switchgear
245 Boiler Cable tray, cable trench outside of FGD These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
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Proposal area
Interface
Questions
246 Boiler Cables between FGD and non-FGD These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
Proposal
Interface
Questions
247 Boiler FGD DCS Design heading states it is by Sojitz to confirm with boiler contractor how FDG SS
Proposal BWBC/GEDI DCS interfaces with plant DCS.
Interface
Questions
248 Boiler Boiler contractor has taken exception to Sojitz to confirm if this will interfere with plant SS
Proposal using IEC-61850 protocol for local and DCS.
Interface remote communication with equipment
Questions
249 Boiler DCS signals for protective relays for These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
Proposal generator, generator transformer, unit
Interface transformer, station transformer, and
Questions switchgear).
250 Boiler Aux steam system (including These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SS
Proposal desuperheater, pressure control station,
Interface pipes, supports & hangers, valves, piping
Questions from Aux. steam system of boiler to soot-
blower of GGH)
251 Boiler The instruments and control system of These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal bypass system.
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Interface
Questions
252 Boiler Pulverizer steel structure These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal
Interface
Questions
253 Boiler All metal members, metal decks, expanded These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal metal lathe, wire mesh, thermal insulation
Interface pins and self-lock laminated plates etc. of
Questions boiler wall thermal insulation and enclosed
construction
254 Boiler Auxiliary cooling water system for Boiler These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal and Auxiliaries
Interface
Questions
255 Boiler Service water piping system within Boiler These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal and Auxiliaries
Interface
Questions
256 Boiler Vacuum cleaning system for the mill and These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal the coal feeder floor and the main floors in
Interface the boiler house.
Questions
257 Boiler Instrument and service air system within These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal Boiler and Auxiliaries
Interface
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Questions
258 Boiler Auxiliary steam system including auxiliary These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal boiler and all piping, instrumentation and
Interface supports.
Questions
259 Boiler Fire Protection System in the boiler and These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal FGD areas.
Interface Nitrogen System for boiler.
Questions
260 Boiler Instrument and service air system within These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal FGD.
Interface
Questions
261 Boiler Auxiliary steam system in the FGD. These items shall be provided by Sojitz/Daelim. SLU
Proposal
Interface
Questions
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 Tariff metering system

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