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Thayer, Cambodia, 2021-2023: A Reader
Thayer, Cambodia, 2021-2023: A Reader
Thayer, Cambodia, 2021-2023: A Reader
Cambodia, 2021-
2023: A Reader
Carlyle A. Thayer
Introduc+on ......................................................................................................................... 1
U.S. Pressure on Cambodia Could be Counter-Produc+ve ................................................... 1
Is Vietnam Losing Its Best Friends to China .......................................................................... 3
Cambodia as ASEAN Chair & the South China Sea Code of Conduct ................................... 4
Vietnam and Cambodia: 55th Anniversary of Diploma+c Rela+ons...................................... 6
Implica+ons of a Chinese Military Presence at Cambodia’s Ream Naval Base ..................... 7
Vietnam’s Response to China’s Upgrading of Cambodia’s Ream Naval Base ....................... 9
Cambodia: Human Trafficking ............................................................................................ 10
Vietnam’s Response to Chinese Encirclement.................................................................... 11
Cambodia and the U.S. Strategic Pivot to Asia ................................................................... 14
U.S. Rela+ons with Cambodia, 2017-2022 ......................................................................... 14
ASEAN 40th and 41st Summits in Cambodia – 1 ................................................................. 16
ASEAN 40th and 41st Summits in Cambodia – 2 .................................................................. 19
Will ASEAN and Related Summits be Set Piece Affairs? ..................................................... 21
Cambodia Na+onal Elec+ons Scene Se^er ........................................................................ 23
Carlyle A. Thayer Biography ............................................................................................... 25
Introduc2on
This Reader contains fourteen Thayer Consultancy Background Briefs on Cambodia published
between January 2021 and July 2023. Eight of the Briefs analyse Cambodia’s rela+ons with
China, the United States and Vietnam, four focus on Cambodia’s role as ASEAN Chair in 2022,
and the remaining two Briefs discuss human trafficking in Cambodia and domes+c poli+cs on
the eve the July 2023 na+onal elec+ons.
special mee+ng with ASEAN foreign ministers was aborted when U.S. technology failed fieeen
minutes into the virtual mee+ng.
The Biden Administra+on views a Chinese naval lodgment at Ream Naval Base as destabilizing
to regional security. The recent visit by Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman to
Indonesia, Cambodia and Thailand was a dis+nct change of gears as she is the most senior
member of the Biden Administra+on to visit Southeast Asia. Deputy Secretary Sherman
undoubtedly raised China’s regional presence and the U.S. response with her counterparts.
Sherman’s visit to Phnom Penh was aimed in part at pucng U.S. concerns about China directly
to Prime Minister Hun Sen. According to a Media Note issued by the U.S. Department of State,
Sherman met Prime Minister Hun Sen on June 1 and “expressed serious concerns about
the PRC’s military presence and construction of facilities at Ream Naval Base on the Gulf of
Thailand. She sought clarification on the demolition of two U.S.-funded buildings at Ream without
notification or explanation and observed that a PRC military base in Cambodia would undermine
Cambodia’s sovereignty, threaten regional security, and negatively impact U.S.-Cambodia
relations. The Deputy Secretary urged Cambodia’s leadership “to maintain an independent and
balanced foreign policy, in the best interests of the Cambodian people.”
Sherman requested and got permission for the U.S. Defense A^aché in Phnom Penh, Colonel
Marcus Ferras, to visit the Ream Naval Base. However, Colonel Ferras’ visit became mired in
controversy when Cambodian officials refused to grant him full access.
Deputy Secretary Sherman raised the issue of a Chinese naval presence in Cambodia during
her stop in Bangkok. The media quoted Sherman as saying she had a candid conversa+on with
Hun Sen “about the direc+on Cambodia is headed” including human rights, its an+-
democra+c record, and China’s presence at Ream Naval Base.
Q2. Do you think the change in Administra+on in Washington this year has played a part? Why
do you think the U.S. is taking a tougher approach?
ANSWER: The Biden Administra+on is undertaking a whole-of-government approach to
China’s influence in Southeast Asia, and not focusing narrowly on tariff and trade issues. Biden
Administra+on’s Interim Na9onal Security Strategic Guidance issued in March states
unequivocally that “China… has rapidly become more asser+ve. It is the only compe+tor
poten+ally capable of combining economic, diploma+c, military and technological power to
mount a sustained challenge to a stable and open interna+onal system.”
Q3. Where could these ac+ons be leading? Is there poten+al for further sanc+ons against
Cambodia?
ANSWER: Deputy Secretary Sherman’s visit to Phnom Penh may be viewed as pre-emp+ve,
that is, pucng Cambodia on no+ce of possible consequences if it granted China access to
Ream Naval Base. But there are constraints on what ac+ons the U.S. can take without pushing
Cambodia further into China’s embrace. There is also the prac+cal ma^er that Cambodia will
be ASEAN Chair next year.
According to the State Department’s Media Note, Sherman “assured the Prime Minister [Hun
Sen] that the United States intends to work with Cambodia in its role as 2022 ASEAN Chair
and help ensure it can play a construc+ve role in addressing cri+cal regional poli+cal and
security challenges.”
Q4. And how impacpul do you think this will be on Cambodia?
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ANSWER: U.S. assistance to Cambodia averaged over $112 million annually between 2018 and
2021. The U.S. could cut part or all of this assistance. In fact, this month the U.S. terminated
its aid to Cambodia’s Prey Lang Wildlife Sanctuary because no ac+on has been taken to end
persistent illegal logging. It is unlikely that cucng aid would bring Cambodia to heel as nearly
a quarter of its central budget comes from foreign assistance (China and Japan).
The U.S. could really hurt Cambodia’s economy by stopping it from receiving privileged access
to the American market under the U.S. Generalized System of Preferences program. The
United States is Cambodia’s largest single export market.
Any U.S. sanc+ons against Cambodia in 2022 when it is ASEAN Chair could prove
counterproduc+ve by undermining ASEAN leadership at a cri+cal juncture. U.S. sanc+ons
could exacerbate cleavages among ASEAN members and open the door for China to further
enhance its influence in the region.
“U.S. Pressure on Cambodia Could be Counter-Produc+ve,” Thayer Consultancy Background
Brief, June 18, 2021. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/513734357/Thayer-U-S-Pressures-
on-Cambodia-Could-Be-Counter-Produc+ve.
Revolu+onary Party and Vietnam Communist Party. Vietnam is implemen+ng policy approved
at this year’s thirteenth na+onal party congress. The Poli+cal Report declared that Vietnam
should a^ach “importance to the development of tradi+onal, friendly and coopera+ve
rela+ons with neighbouring countries…” The 13th congress also stressed the importance of
mul+lateralism, par+cularly to deal with development issues in the Lower Mekong.
The tripar+te mee+ng of party leaders on 26 September was preceded three days earlier by
the 8th mee+ng of the respec+ve Na+onal Assembly Commi^ees for External Rela+ons from
Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. Earlier in the year Laos and Vietnam exchanged high-level visits.
In June, Thongloun Sisoulith, President of Laos and General Secretary of the Lao People’s
Revolu+onary Party, made an official visit to Vietnam. In August, Vietnam’s new President
Nguyen Xuan Phuc made his first overseas official visit to Laos.
China has increased its presence and influence in all three countries because of its economic
growth. China has become an important source of foreign investment. China is also a major
provider of assistance (concessional loans) for infrastructure that exis+ng interna+onal
financial ins+tu+ons like the Asian Development Bank cannot provide.
At the same +me, Vietnam and China have been busily engaging across the full spectrum of
bilateral rela+ons. On 10 September this year, Vietnam hosted the 13th high-level mee+ng of
the Steering Commi^ee for Bilateral Coopera+on.
The argument that Vietnam is losing its “best friends” to China needs to be backed up by
evidence not supposi+on.1 China seeks to develop fraternal rela+ons with Vietnam and Laos
on the basis of their shared socialist ideology. Any a^empt to exclude Vietnam from Laos
would undercut this objec+ve.
If China was trying to nudge Vietnam out of Laos and Cambodia, how does one explain that
Vietnam invests more in Laos than any other country, where it is the third largest investor?
Vietnamese investment shot up by 130 percent year-on-year in 2020. Bilateral trade between
Vietnam and Laos increased by 39 percent this year compared to the same period last year.
As for Cambodia, it is the second largest des+na+on for investment out of 178 countries that
receive Vietnamese investment. Vietnam has put $2.8 billion into 188 projects in Cambodia.
“Is Vietnam Losing Its Best Friends to China?” Thayer Consultancy Background Brief,
September 30, 2021. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/529326796/Thayer-Is-Vietnam-
Losing-Its-Best-Friends-to-China.
Cambodia as ASEAN Chair & the South China Sea Code of Conduct
We are preparing a report about Cambodia's possible role as ASEAN Chair in the nego+a+on
process for a Code of Conduct (COC) in the South China Sea.
What is your assessment on whether it's a good thing if Cambodia can help speed up
nego+a+ons on a COC. Or do you think as China's key ally in ASEAN Cambodia will prevent
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The term “best friends” and zero-sum approach may be found at: Derek Grossman, “Vietnam Is Losing Its Best
Friends to China,” The Diplomat, November 2, 2020. https://thediplomat.com/2020/11/vietnam-is-losing-its-
best-friends-to-china/.
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speeding up nego+a+ons should the drae COC text call for observa+on of interna+onal laws
including UNCLOS and the 2016 ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitra+on?
ANSWER: A dis+nc+on needs to be made between Cambodia as ASEAN Chair in 2020 and
Cambodia as one of the eleven par+es to the nego+a+ons on the ASEAN-China Single Drae
Code of Conduct in the South China Sea Nego+a+ng Text (SDNT).
Cambodia, as ASEAN Chair, has no special authority to influence the +me line for nego+a+ons
on the ASEAN-China SDNT. Long ago ASEAN gave up its preroga+ve to reach a common
posi+on on the Code of Conduct prior to mee+ng with China. ASEAN’s concession on this point
means that there are eleven par+es — ASEAN’s ten member states and China.
Cambodia, as ASEAN Chair could, as it did in 2012, refuse to issue the Chair’s Statement
because it objected to wording of paragraphs on the South China Sea. But this is unlikely now
because ASEAN has recovered from this debacle. Since 2013, ASEAN has come up with a
formula+on on the South China Sea that is included in every Chair’s Statement. Cambodia has
been part of this consensus.
Formal nego+a+ons on the SDNT are undertaken by the ASEAN-China Working Group to
Implement the Declara+on on Conduct of Par+es in the South China Sea (WG DOC). This group
operates on the basis of consensus. Cambodia could block consensus. But either it would be
opera+ng alone as a single holdout or presumably siding with China (or some other party) on
a par+cular issue.
In August 2018, China unilaterally pressed for a three-year deadline for the Code of Conduct
(2018 to 2021), in my assessment, because Rodrigo Duterte would be President of the
Philippines (un+l May 2022); Brunei and Cambodia would be ASEAN Chairs in 2021 and 2022,
respec+vely; and the Philippines and Myanmar would be ASEAN country co-ordinator for
dialogue rela+ons with China, from 2018-21 and 2021-24, respec+vely.
ASEAN, however, never formally accepted this. ASEAN developed a well-worn statement that
is repeated every year. For example, Chairman’s Statement of the 38th and 39th ASEAN
Summits (26 October 2021) states, “We… were encouraged by the progress of the substan+ve
nego+a+ons towards the early conclusion of an effec+ve and substan+ve Code of Conduct in
the South China Sea (COC) consistent with interna+onal law, including the 1982 UNCLOS,
within a mutually agreed 9meline (emphasis added).”
The November 2002 Declara+on on Conduct of Par+es in the South China Sea (DOC) stated,
“10. The Parties concerned reaffirm that the adoption of a code of conduct in the South
China Sea would further promote peace and stability in the region and agree to work, on
the basis of consensus, towards the eventual attainment of this objective (emphasis
added).”
COVID-19 meant no face-to-face nego+a+ons on the SDNT took place in 2020. China is now
pressing for a conclusion by the end of next year.
The speed of nego+a+ons likely will be determined by the claimant states and their
acceptance or otherwise of the wording of the final SDNT, its legal status, area of coverage,
and enforceability.
The SDNT is replete with references to interna+onal law in general and UNLOS in par+cular.
Provisional agreement has been reached on the Preamble (one page). Point 2 of the Preamble
states:
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Reaffirming their commitment to the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United
Na+ons, the 1982 UN Conven9on on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the Treaty of Amity and
Coopera+on in Southeast Asia, the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, and other
universally recognised principles of interna+onal law which shall serve as the basic norms
governing state-to-state rela+ons (emphasis added).
Nego+a+ons are now focused on the second sec+on General Provisions point one on
objec+ves. This sec+on is two pages long.
There is no men+on of the Arbitral Tribunal set up under Annex VII of UNCLOS or its 2016
Award in the SDNT. The Arbitral Tribunal is oeen misleadingly referred to as the Permanent
Court of Arbitra+on (PCA). The PCA served as the registry for the proceedings of the Arbitral
Tribunal.
“Cambodia as ASEAN Chair & the South China Sea Code of Conduct,” Thayer Consultancy
Background Brief, October 29, 2021. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/536363716/Thayer-
Cambodia-as-ASEAN-Chair-the-South-China-Sea-Code-of-Conduct.
ANSWER: I first visited Cambodia in August 1981 and returned regularly in the 1980s. I met
many Cambodian officials who had lived under the Khmer Rouge. I also visited the mass graves
of vic+ms of the Khmer Rouge. If Vietnam had not supported the Cambodian forces opposing
the Khmer Rouge the genocide would have con+nued and hundreds of thousands of
Cambodian would have perished. Cambodian leaders are correct, they would not be alive
today if Vietnam had not intervened.
Ques+on 4: What is your assessment regarding the development of Vietnam-Cambodia
rela+ons over the past 55 years?
ANSWER: In 1989, I accompanied U.S. Senator Dick Clark on a fact-finding visit to Cambodia
just aeer Vietnam withdrew its military forces. Later, in May 1993, I was an accredited
observer for elec+ons conducted under the United Na+ons Transi+onal Authority in
Cambodia (UNTAC) in Kompong Thom province. I con+nued to make regular visits to
Cambodia since then.
There are two issues that have bedevilled bilateral rela+ons, the demarca+on of the border
between Vietnam and Cambodia and Cambodia’s treatment of the ethnic Vietnamese
community living in that country. At +mes rela+ons have been tense due to hyper-na+onalism
by Cambodians. Over the years these bilateral irritants have been ameliorated.
Ques+on 5: What is your view on the trend and prospects of Vietnam-Cambodia rela+ons in
the years to come?
ANSWER: This year is the Vietnam-Cambodia, Cambodia-Vietnam Friendship Year.
The general trend in the future will be carried out under the expression “good
neighbourliness, tradi+onal friendship, comprehensive coopera+on, and long-term stability”
adopted by both par+es. For example, the demarca+on of the land border is eighty-four
percent complete and both sides are striving to complete this process in coming years now
that both are recovering from the COVID-19 pandemic.
Special Economic Zones have sprung up along the border to facilitate mutually beneficial trade
to exceed $5 billion. Both sides will implement the Master Plan on Vietnam-Cambodia
Economic Connec+vity to 2030 and the Memorandum of Understanding on Coopera+on
Strategy in the Transport Sector for the 2018-2025 period with a Vision to 2030.
Cambodian and Vietnamese military forces cooperate to repatriate the remains of
Vietnamese soldiers who were killed in the figh+ng against the Khmer Rouge. Cambodian
military officers con+nue to a^end Vietnamese military training courses.
And Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos will con+nue to work together to develop the Mekong sub-
region.
“Vietnam and Cambodia: 55th Anniversary of Diploma+c Rela+ons,” Thayer Consultancy
Background Brief, May 31, 2022. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/576822804/Thayer-
Vietnam-and-Cambodia-55th-Anniversary-of-Diploma+c-Rela+ons.
Q1. Cambodia denies that it will grant access to Ream Naval Base on a long-term basis. What
is your evalua+on of the possibility that Ream Naval Base will become a base for the Chinese
navy?
ANSWER: Australia’s new Prime Minister Anthony Albanese remarked on Tuesday, 7 June,
“We’ve been aware of Beijing’s ac+vity at Ream for some +me and encourage Beijing to be
transparent about its intent…” The larger strategic picture is that for several years China has
been consistently seeking naval access to several countries in the region, par+cularly the
South Pacific. Last month, China and the Solomon Islands signed an unpublished security
agreement that likely includes provision for Chinese naval ship visits.
Once China gains a military presence it does not ma^er what term is used to describe it –
lodgement, facility or base. What ma^ers is the capabili+es China deploys and China’s intent.
China’s People’s Libera+on Army Navy (PLAN), China Coast Guard and Mari+me Mili+a are
quan+ta+vely larger than any counter-coali+on in the region. China is rapidly closing the
qualita+ve gap.
China has the capability to establish a permanent military presence in Cambodia. Any small
Chinese military lodgement could be quickly expanded. It would appear that the ground
breaking ceremony this week signals a fait accompli and China will be involved in modernizing
Ream Naval Base.
Once construc+on work is completed, the Chinese PLAN likely will maintain a presence.
Unconfirmed reports indicate that China will be given a long-term lease of up to thirty years
with automa+c renewal for another ten years. It is likely that publicity and adverse reac+on
by the United States may result in a revision of the lease.
Q2. What impact will a Chinese naval base in Cambodia have on security in the Indo-Pacific?
ANSWER: China’s military lodgement at Ream Naval Base will create a forward opera+ng base
for the PLAN and China Coast Guard to expand the length and geographic scope of their
patrols par+cularly in the Gulf of Thailand. In other words, Chinese naval and mari+me forces
will be much closer to Thailand, peninsula Malaysia, southwestern Vietnam and Indonesia’s
Natuna Island.
Recently, Vietnam took its first steps to create a professional mari+me mili+a with priority
waters off its southwestern coast to protect its fishermen and marine resources. Chinese naval
and mari+me forces opera+ng from Ream Naval Base could provide support for Chinese
fishing boats opera+ng in waters claimed by Beijing or poaching in the Exclusive Economic
Zones of coastal states, including
Vietnam.
A Chinese naval presence will deter coastal states from taking robust ac+on to curb illegal,
unreported and unregulated fishing by Chinese fishing fleets. Also, a permanent Chinese naval
presence will cause coastal states to divert personnel and naval resources to monitor what
the Chinese are up to.
“Implica+ons of a Chinese Military Presence at Cambodia’s Ream Naval Base,” Thayer
Consultancy Background Brief, June 8, 2022.
h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/579496761/Thayer-Implica+ons-of-a-Chinese-Military-
Presence-at-Cambodia-s-Ream-Naval-Base.
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In sum, Vietnam does not view China-Cambodia rela+ons in zero-sum terms. China’s
involvement at Ream Naval Base will not undermine exis+ng and future Cambodia-Vietnam
military coopera+on.
“Vietnam’s Response to China’s Upgrading of Cambodia’s Ream Naval Base,” Thayer
Consultancy Background Brief, June 12, 2022.
h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/579497302/Thayer-Vietnam-s-Response-to-China-s-
Upgrading-of-Cambodia-s-Ream-Naval-Base.
ANSWER: China’s Zero COVID policy not only cut off the flow of Chinese visitors to Cambodia
but also cut off the funds used for gambling. Chinese-run casinos fell on hard +mes. This
prompted criminal syndicates to move to alternate and more lucra+ve sources of income –
online scamming. The focus on human trafficking now shieed to luring Vietnamese, Thais,
Malaysians and other Southeast Asians into this network through a sophis+cated social media
campaign. Once they arrived in Cambodia their passports were confiscated. They were housed
in closely-guarded compounds and forced to work long-hours in online scamming.
Q3. What are your sugges+ons to prevent the luring of vulnerable people from Vietnam, South
East Asian countries, China and Taiwan into these online scamming networks?
ANSWER: There is no quick fix to elimina+ng human trafficking. At least nine issues need to
be addressed to combat human trafficking of all kinds.
First, all the countries in your ques+on need to review and revise exis+ng laws related to an+-
trafficking to ensure that they are comprehensive.
Second, proscribe worker-paid recruitment fees and conduct unannounced inspec+ons of
labour recruitment agencies to eliminate debt-based coercion.
Third, develop a na+onal system to monitor, collect data and report on suspected cases of
human trafficking.
Fourth, train police and all other relevant government officials, including overseas diploma+c
missions, to iden+fy and inves+gate suspected cases of human trafficking with special
a^en+on to vulnerable groups (children, women, migrant workers, etc.)
Fieh, prosecute, convict, and punish all forms of human trafficking. Provide incen+ves for
vic+ms of trafficking to par+cipate in criminal proceedings.
Sixth, train social workers and support non-government organisa+ons (NGOs) to assist in the
repatria+on and care of trafficking vic+ms.
Seventh, con+nuously conduct a na+onal educa+on campaign on the dangers and risks of
human trafficking and how to iden+fy human traffickers, their means of recruitment, and
poten+al vic+ms.
Eighth, enhance interna+onal law enforcement coopera+on with all relevant states.
Ninth, provide sufficient funding and resources for a Na+onal Ac+on Plan Against Human
Trafficking.
“Cambodia: Human Trafficking,” Thayer Consultancy Background Brief, September 1, 2022.
h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/594912774/Thayer-Cambodia-Human-Trafficking.
ANSWER: Vietnamese poli+cal and military leaders are well aware of China’s military strength
and growing technological prowess. They adopt a sanguine view of their strategic posi+on; in
other words China’s so-called encirclement of Vietnam presents both opportuni+es and
challenges. As the map of the South China Sea below indicates, while China occupies the
Paracel Islands and has militarized seven features in the South China Sea, Vietnam occupies
twenty-one rocks and reefs, hos+ng between 49 to 51 outposts, in the Spratlys.
In February 2021, the 13th Na+onal Congress of the Vietnam Communist Party approved a
resolu+on to ini+ate Vietnam’s most ambi+ous and far-reaching program to modernize its
armed forces. It called for the crea+on of “compact and strong” Vietnam People’s Army by
2025, the moderniza+on of select “services, corps and forces” by 2030, and then the
moderniza+on of en+re military thereaeer.
Senior military officers wri+ng in Tạp Chí Quốc Phòng Toàn Dân (All People’s Na+onal Defence
Journal) aeer the 13th congress iden+fied the following services, corps and forces that would
be given priority as follows: Air-Defence Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard, Signal Force, Electronic
Warfare Force, Technical Reconnaissance Force, Cyber Warfare Force and the Cipher
(cryptology) Force.
Q2. What can Vietnam do to poten+ally break this encirclement? Does it mean more
coopera+on with counter-China countries like the US and Japan? Or is it something Vietnam
knows it has to live with now?
ANSWER: China’s so-called encirclement of Vietnam is incomplete. China has provided a loan
and is assis+ng Cambodia in modernizing its naval base at Ream. But China has not yet
established a formal military base nor deployed naval warships on a permanent basis.
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Vietnam and Cambodia have a standing-agreement not to permit foreign military bases on
their territory. For example, in December 2021, at the conclusion of the official visit by
President Nguyen Xuan Phuc to Cambodia, the two leaders issued a joint statedment that
declared: “The two sides agreed to strengthen coopera+on in defence and security based on
the principle of not allowing any hos+le forces to use their respec+ve territories to harm the
other’s security…”
Vietnam and Cambodia are currently implemen+ng a mul+-year protocol covering 2020-24
and a specific Coopera+on Plan for 2022. On 23 May 2022, for example, General Tea Banh and
General Phan Van Giang, defence ministers for Cambodia and Vietnam, respec+vely, held their
first border defence friendship exchange in Hanoi.
While the disposi+on of Vietnam’s modern military is defensive, the 13th congress resolu+on
directed the Vietnam People’s Armed Forces to “proac+vely prevent the risk of war and
conflict from afar” through accurate forecas+ng and +mely ac+on.
Vietnam’s military doctrine is tailored for different geographic areas such as the land border,
islands in the South China Sea and the mari+me domain. There are unconfirmed reports that
Vietnam has placed missile launchers on several of its features in the Spratly Islands.
A year aeer the 13th congress, Russian invaded the Ukraine. This conflict provides lessons to
Vietnam how asymmetric force can be employed against a numerically larger force. Vietnam’s
na+onal defence industry is already capable of producing advanced an+-ship and an+-air
missiles. Vietnam’s People’s Navy includes six Project 636 Varshavyanka or advanced Kilo-
class conven+onal submarines.
In 2019 Vietnam issued a Defence White Paper that declared: “Viet Nam consistently
advocates neither joining any military alliances, siding with one country against another,
giving any other countries permission to set up military bases or use its territory to carry our
military ac+vi+es against other countries nor using force or threatening to use in interna+onal
rela+ons.” Collec+vely these are called the “four no's.”
Vietnam’s 2019 Defence White Paper went on to state, however, “depending on
circumstances and specific condi+ons, Viet Nam will consider developing, necessary,
appropriate defence and military rela+ons with other countries…” Russia has been Vietnam’s
main supplier of military weapons and technology but procurements have fallen considerably
from over US $1.2 billion in 2016 to $30 million 2021. Also, Vietnam has acquired military
weapons and technology from India, Israel, South Korea and the United States. At the same
+me, it has worked closely with Japan’s Self-Defence Air Force on air defence.
Q3. What challenges will Vietnam face?
Vietnam will face two major challenges in mee+ng it military moderniza+on goals First,
Vietnam must restore high-economic growth so it can finance arms procurements of “big
+cket” items. Second, Vietnam must avoid sanc+ons by the United States if it decides to make
major procurements from Russia.
The so-called encirclement thesis posits that China and Vietnam view each other as
adversaries at best and enemies at worst, leaving Vietnam li^le op+on but to align with the
United States. The situa+on is far more complex. China represents the greatest military
challenge to Vietnam because of its material capabili+es. But it is difficult to demonstrate that
China has the intent to pressure Vietnam to subordinate itself to Beijing or a^ack Vietnam
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because of some existen+al provoca+on to China’s core interests. Any armed conflict between
China and Vietnam would have global implica+ons and result in the disrup+on of trade via the
South China Sea on which China is dependent.
“Vietnam’s Response to Chinese Encirclement,” Thayer Consultancy Background Brief,
September 1, 2022. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/594907943/Thayer-Vietnam-s-
Response-to-Chinese-Encirclement.
ANSWER: President Joe Biden will go to Phnom Penh to demonstrate U.S. respect for and
engagement with ASEAN, ASEAN-centrality and the role of ASEAN mul+lateral ins+tu+ons in
the security of the Indo-Pacific Region. Biden’s presence will also give him a chance to meet
with Indonesia’s president who will assume the ASEAN Chair for 2023 at this November
summit.
President Biden will also a^empt to shape the discussion by offering coopera+on across the
spectrum of non-tradi+onal security issues so dear to ASEAN’s own agenda. He will also try to
assuage those ASEAN leaders who are swayed by China’s rhetoric that the U.S. is the root
cause of regional instability. Biden will repeat long standing U.S. policy that the United States
will cooperate with China where it can but resist China where it must.
Cambodia has been adept at using its role as ASEAN Chair to claw back some interna+onal
respectability. Prime Minister Hun Sen appointed his foreign minister as ASEAN Special Envoy
to Myanmar to get movement on ASEAN’s Five Point Consensus. And Cambodia has been
rela+vely vocal in condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Hun Sen milked his role as ASEAN
Chair at the US-ASEAN Special Summit hosted by President Biden earlier this year.
Q2. What has changed in the US-Cambodia rela+onship since Obama's visit, and how do you
think Biden's trip will compare to Obama's in tone/substance?
ANSWER: Human rights played a greater role under President Obama than his successor
Donald Trump. President Obama personally pressed Hun Sen on this issue in November 2012
when they met face to face.
Under the Biden Administra+on Cambodia occupies an elevated if not priority place in U.S.
Indo-Pacific Strategy because Cambodia is ASEAN Chair for this year. Biden expects to see U.S.
rela+ons with ASEAN raised to a comprehensive strategic partnership in November and by
necessity the U.S. has had to work with Cambodia to achieve this goal. Therefore the Biden
Administra+on has been more muted in raising human rights concerns than president Obama.
Q3. How has the rela+onship changed in the past five years, since the dissolu+on of the
Cambodia Na+onal Rescue Party (CNRP) and the claims against Kem Sokha of a U.S.-led "color
revolu+on" against Hun Sen? How do the Kem Sokha allega+ons impact rela+ons now?
ANSWER: U.S.-Cambodia rela+ons deteriorated markedly during the Trump Administra+on as
Hun Sen turned to China in response to U.S. and western responses to his suppression of the
democra+c opposi+on. Hun Sen downgraded defence rela+ons in 2017. In 2018, Hun Sen
turned to China for arms aeer the U.S. cut its aid to Cambodia. In June 2018 the U.S. imposed
sanc+ons on Hun Sen’s bodyguard.
In 2019, the U.S. a^empted to re-engage Cambodia to wean it from China. General Hun
Manet, one of Hun Sen’s Sons who graduated from West Point, was invited to a^end the U.S.
Pacific Area Special Opera+ons Conference.
The Biden Administra+on doubled down on suppor+ng the sustainable development of the
Mekong River out humanitarian and strategic considera+ons to undercut Chinese influence.
Because Cambodia is a Mekong riparian state along with Thailand, Laos and Vietnam it
benefi^ed from this U.S. policy ini+a+ve.
The Biden Administra+on’s Indo-Pacific strategies iden+fies China as the United States' main
compe+tor and rival. The Biden Administra+on also is concerned about the possibility of a
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Chinese military lodgement at Ream Naval Base. The U.S. has lobbied Cambodia to be more
transparent.
Over the last eighteen months the U.S. has adopted soeer diploma+c style to engage with
Hun Sen. However, legisla+on before the U.S. Congress promo+ng democracy and human and
labour rights in Cambodia could undermine these efforts.
“U.S. Rela+ons with Cambodia, 2017-2022,” Thayer Consultancy Background Brief, October
31, 2022. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/605435952/Thayer-U-S-Rela+ons-With-
Cambodia-2017-2022.
Cambodia is likely to oppose stronger measures against Myanmar. Cambodia has been
outspoken in its cri+cism of Russian aggression in Ukraine and is posed to exchange
ambassadors with Ukraine. Cambodia has proposed itself as the venue for talks between
Russia and Ukraine.
The Philippines is most likely to raise recent incidents in the South China Sea involving China.
Cambodia, as ASEAN Chair, will let the consensus principle prevail and it is highly unlikely
ASEAN leaders will alter the wording of their sec+on on the South China Sea.
Q3. What will the points of conflict over these issues be among ASEAN states and other
na+ons, such as the U.S., China and Russia?
ANSWER: These issues are likely to surface at the East Asia Summit among China, Russia and
the United States.
Clearly, the U.S. will square off against Russia and China on the situa+on in Myanmar and the
war in Ukraine. The U.S. will call for stronger measures, Russia and China will oppose this. The
U.S. and China will exchange verbal volleys each accusing the other of destabilising security in
the South China Sea. Russia and China will oppose stronger measures against North Korea.
Q4. Could you evaluate Cambodia's leadership of ASEAN this year? What did Cambodia do
well and what could it have done be^er in leading the associa+on?
ANSWER: When Cambodia took the gavel to become ASEAN Chair for 2022, it proposed as its
slogan for the year “ASEAN A.C.T.: Addressing Challenges Together.” Cambodia pledged to
expedite the process of ASEAN community building. Cambodia nominated three priori+es: (1)
strengthening ASEAN centrality and unity; (2) implementa+on of all agreed measures under
the ASEAN Economic Community; and (3) strengthen human resource development with a
par+cular focus on women and youth. Cambodia achieved a pass mark in advancing all three
of its priori+es.
The most conten+ous issue was Cambodia’s handling of the “situa+on in Myanmar.” ASEAN
commentators and analysts are divided on this issue. Cambodia’s cri+cs assert that Hun Sen
gave legi+macy to the military junta by visi+ng that country. Cri+cs argue Hun Sen
overreached by appoin+ng his Foreign Minister as ASEAN Special Envoy who visited Myanmar
twice with nothing to show for his diploma+c interven+on. Finally, cri+cs rounded on Hun Sen
for issuing a statement on recent mass killings in Myanmar without naming the guilty party.
Cri+cs argue now is the +me to make contact with the Na+onal Unity Government, the main
opposi+on group to the military.
On the other hand, other observers argue nothing much could have been done. They give Hun
Sen credit for engaging with the junta and for appoin+ng a Special Envoy. They also credit Hun
Sen for keeping Myanmar inside the ASEAN tent so to speak by suspending its par+cipa+on at
ASEAN mee+ngs but not formally expelling Myanmar from ASEAN.
Q5. So far, many observers have said ASEAN's Five Point Consensus on Myanmar has failed.
What should ASEAN states do to stop the conflict and hold the Myanmar government and
other actors accountable for crimes and human rights viola+ons? What is ASEAN likely to
achieve on Myanmar this year or next?
ANSWER: ASEAN could start by naming and shaming the military junta. ASEAN could a^empt
to find a so-called non-poli+cal leader to represent Myanmar at ASEAN mee+ngs. ASEAN could
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make contact with the Na+onal Unity Government and funnel humanitarian assistance
directly to it.
ASEAN and other like-minded states could lodge claims of crimes against humanity before the
Interna+onal Criminal Court. ASEAN could press the UN Security Council to ins+gate a global
embargo on the sale of weapons to Myanmar. Finally, ASEAN could take steps to expel
Myanmar from ASEAN and isolate it interna+onally.
The bo^om line, however, is that none of these measures are likely to have a major impact on
the ongoing conflict in Myanmar. The UN cannot take effec+ve ac+on because either or both
China and Russia will likely exercise their veto. ASEAN members are unlikely to reach
consensus of sterner measures.
Reportedly Indonesia, the incoming ASEAN Chair for 2023, is drawing up a road map to assist
ASEAN in achieving its Five Point Consensus.
Q6. The South China Sea is oeen a conten+ous issue among ASEAN members, picng some
na+ons opposing China's claims against others who back China. Do you expect to see any new
developments on how ASEAN states discuss, debate and speak out about the South China Sea
and conflic+ng claims by China and ASEAN na+ons, such as Vietnam and the Philippines?
ANSWER: ASEAN has a well-worn template for its policy on the South China Sea that covers
all the bases on issues and concerns by claimant states. Because of its generality it is repeated
each year and it is unlikely any major change will be made this year.
ASEAN last statement on the South China Sea notes that “concerns were expressed by some
Ministers on… serious incidents in the area… which have eroded trust and confidence,
increased tensions, and may undermine peace, security and stability in the region.”
ASEAN then calls for “self-restraint in the conduct of ac+vi+es that would complicate or
escalate disputes and affect peace and stability, and avoid ac+ons that may further complicate
the situa+on.” ASEAN also calls for the peaceful se^lement of disputes under interna+onal
law including the United Na+ons Conven+on on the Law of the Sea.
ASEAN’s annual statement on the South China Sea normally concludes by no+ng that ASEAN
is “encouraged by the progress of the substan+ve Code of Conduct in the South China Sea”
and men+ons whatever mee+ngs were held in the last calendar year.
China’s party General Secretary Xi Jinping just received Vietnam’s party leader Nguyen Phu
Trong in Beijing. The media reported that both leaders agreed that their dispute in the South
China Sea could affect bilateral rela+ons. The joint statement issued aeer their talks included
thirteen points. Point 9 included four lengthy paragraphs on the South China Sea outlining the
principles and ac+ons each side would take to maintain “peace and stability.” In sum, Vietnam
is unlikely to raise conten+ous South China Seas issues at the ASEAN Summit.
The Philippines, on the other hand, has been quite vocal under newly elected President
Ferdinand Marcos Jr. about Chinese transgressions affec+ng Philippine sovereignty and
sovereign jurisdic+on. President Marcos is most likely to raise his concerns at the Summit. This
will not affect the wording of the ASEAN Chair’s Statement aeer the Summit because its
language is all encompassing.
“ASEAN 40th and 41st Summits in Cambodia – 1,” Thayer Consultancy Background Brief,
November 4, 2022. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/605993907/Thayer-ASEAN-Summits-
in-Cambodia.
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ASEAN performs much be^er in dealing with economic issues through free trade agreements
with China, Australia-New Zealand, Japan, India, South Korea and Hong Kong as well as the
Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership.
Q3. What are the core principles that ASEAN should adhere to regardless of the regional and
interna+onal situa+on?
ANSWER: ASEAN should follow the core principles and norms in (1) the Five Principles of
Peaceful Coexistence (mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-
aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit, and
peaceful coexistence), (2) the ASEAN Way (inclusivity, dialogue and consulta+on, consensus,
non-interference, and moving at a pace comfortable to all), and (3) the Treaty of Amity and
Coopera+on (peaceful se^lement of disputes, renuncia+on of the threat or use of force and
promo+on of the rule of law).
Q4. What should ASEAN and Viet Nam do to maintain its central organizing role in the region’s
emerging architecture? How should ASEAN navigate in the current fast and unpredictable
changing environment?
ANSWER: ASEAN and Vietnam should be more proac+ve in asser+ng ASEAN unity and
centrality at a +me of heightened tensions among the major power. Specifically, this means
not being passive and reac+ve to developments, but proac+ve in promo+ng ini+a+ves to
resolve outstanding problems.
The situa+on in Myanmar is a prime example. It is clear that the military junta is not yet ready
to work with the ASEAN Special Envoy to implement the Five Points Consensus. ASEAN should
debate a number of op+ons including but not limited to: naming and shaming the military
junta, iden+fying a non-poli+cal leader to represent Myanmar at ASEAN mee+ngs, make
contact with the Na+onal Unity Government and funnel humanitarian assistance directly to
it, consider lodging claims of crimes against humanity before the Interna+onal Criminal Court,
press the UN Security Council to ins+gate a global embargo on the sale of weapons to
Myanmar, and finally take steps to expel Myanmar from ASEAN and isolate it interna+onally.
Q5. What do you expect from these summit mee+ngs?
ANSWER: ASEAN should hold two separate summit mee+ngs in a calendar year. ASEAN has
permi^ed its less developed members who lack the human resources to hold the two summits
back to back. This is what will happen in Phnom Penh next week. This means there will be a
+me lag in reviewing the implementa+on of programs and a compression of decision-making.
ASEAN summits are predictable because the final agenda is invariably the result of intensive
work at lower levels, senior levels and ministerial levels. There are two major baskets of issues
the 40th and 41st ASEAN Summits will consider: ASEAN Community Building and ASEAN
External Rela+ons.
The ASEAN Summits will take note of and approve recommenda+ons on the ASEAN
Community Post-2025 Vision, Review of the implementa+on of the ASEAN Charter, ASEAN’s
response to COVID-19, ASEAN connec+vity, Ini+a+ve for ASEAN Integra+on, sub-regional
coopera+on, and the ASEAN junior fellowship program within the ASEAN Secretariat.
The ASEAN Summits will discuss the following issues in ASEAN’s external rela+ons: Timor-
Leste’s applica+on for membership, ASEAN centrality and rela+ons with dialogue partners,
the situa+on in Myanmar, the war in Ukraine, South China Sea, and denuclearisa+on of the
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Korean peninsula. The situa+on in Myanmar will be a key issue with Malaysia and Indonesia
pressing for a harder line. Indonesia, the ASEAN Chair for 2023, is reportedly draeing a road
map to implement the Five Point Consensus and ASEAN leaders will endorse this ini+a+ve.
“ASEAN 40th and 41st Summits in Cambodia – 2,” Thayer Consultancy Background Brief,
November 9, 2022. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/607112613/Thayer-ASEAN-40th-
and-41st-Summits-in-Cambodia-2.
partners (Japan, Republic of Korea, Australia, New Zealand and India) and (2) China-Russia
who formed a “partnership without limits”.
The EAS is likely to witness a conten+ous debate on the war in Ukraine between the U.S. and
its allies and China and Russia. This is most likely to occur at the leaders’ retreat. ASEAN
members will not take sides. Except for the EAS, all of the mul+lateral ASEAN-related mee+ngs
and summits are based on the principle of consensus. The Chair’s Statement is non-binding
and masks disagreements. The ASEAN Plus One summits are also set piece affairs.
Q3. What do you think could be the best possible outcome of the summit and, on the contrary,
the worst possible outcome?
ANSWER: The best possible outcome would be for ASEAN to reach consensus on the situa+on
in Myanmar and further steps to pressure the military junta to begin implemen+ng the Five
Point Consensus. ASEAN could open a dialogue with the Na+onal Unity Government and
con+nue to suspend Myanmar’s par+cipa+on at ASEAN mee+ngs. ASEAN needs to take ac+on
that will a^ract the support of its dialogue partners or risk being marginalised.
The worst outcome on the situa+on in Myanmar would be for China and Russia to break ranks
with ASEAN and con+nue to conduct business as usual with the military junta.
Q4. What needs to happen for Indonesia to be sa+sfied with the results of the summit?
ANSWER: Indonesia would be very glad if ASEAN leaders’ endorsed its ini+a+ve to write a
drae road map for dealing with the situa+on in Myanmar. Otherwise, Indonesia wil pick up
where Cambodia lee off and con+nue to implement programs and ini+a+ves that are
currently underway or newly approved.
Q5. Do you expect China to play a major role by media+ng between the U.S. and Europe and
Russia, especially now that Pu+n has confirmed he is not a^ending?
ANSWER: Bilateral mee+ngs in Bali are very important, although not technically part of the
ASEAN process. The expected bilateral mee+ngs between Presidents Biden and Xi Jinping and
President Xi and Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese are significant because both sets
of rela+ons are currently strained. These mee+ngs could mark a reset in bilateral rela+ons
towards a more construc+ve direc+on.
China will come under pressure from all sides to use its influence on Pu+n to pursue a peaceful
se^lement of the war in Ukraine. China recently warned Pu+n not to use nuclear weapons. It
is unlikely that China would assume a high-profile role as peacemaker due to the risks of failure
and possible aliena+on of Pu+n.
Q6. The White House confirmed that Xi and Biden will meet on Monday, ahead of the G20
summit. What outcomes do you expect from the first mee+ng between these leaders?
ANSWER: Usually summit mee+ngs at this level are prepared long in advance. This one was
agreed at short no+ce. Biden and Xi will meet Monday (14 November) prior to the G20 summit
in their first face to face mee+ng as presidents.
This mee+ng is all about resecng rela+ons that have nose-dived since Speaker Nancy Pelosi
visited Taiwan in May. Xi suspended dialogue with the United States on climate change, an+-
drug efforts and military rela+ons. The Biden Administra+on recently imposed export controls
on semiconductor technology.
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President Biden spoke at a press conference on 9th November and said he wanted to “lay out
what each of our red lines are. Understand what he believes to be in the cri+cal na+onal
interest of China… [and] whether or not they conflict with one another.”
Both leaders will raise issues of mutual concern such as Taiwan, North Korean missile tests
and the war in Ukraine. Biden has already indicated he will raise China’s harmful economic
prac+ces and human rights. Xi will likely raise economic issues such as Trump-era tariffs and
recent U.S. export controls on semiconductor technology.
According to a U.S. official there won’t be any joint statement or deliverables. The mee+ng
primarily is aimed at keeping communica+on open, discussing how to manage bilateral
rela+ons and iden+fying areas where the U.S. and China can work together.
“Will ASEAN and Related Summits be Set Piece Affairs?” Thayer Consultancy Background Brief,
November 11, 2022. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/607113879/Thayer-Will-ASEAN-
and-Related-Summits-Be-Set-Piece-Affairs.
Q3. The unfinished demarca+on of their land border has caused persistent tensions between
the two countries. How will this problem shape Cambodia’s domes+c poli+cs? Has the border
agreement also contributed to the lingering suspicion among certain Cambodians about
Vietnam’s expansionist inten+ons?
ANSWER: Vietnam and Cambodia signed a border agreement in 1983 at a +me when
Vietnamese military forces and advisors were s+ll in Cambodia. The major poli+cal opposi+on
par+es have argued that the treaty was imposed on Cambodia and Vietnam gained
Cambodian land unfairly. In October 2009, members of the Sam Rainy Party staged
demonstra+ons along the border and removed border posts in Svay Rieng province.
Since 1983, the Vietnam-Cambodia Joint Commi^ee on Land Border Demarca+on and Marker
Plan+ng has maintained, repaired and erected new markers to demarcate the border.
Approximately eighty-four percent of the border has been demarcated. At the most recent
mee+ng in June 2022, Cambodia and Vietnam agreed to nego+ate new border regula+ons.
Aeer the July na+onal elec+ons, when the CPP is expected to return to government, it should
be business as usual in border demarca+on. While some sec+ons of the Cambodian
popula+on may harbour suspicions of “Vietnamese expansionism” the border issue is unlikely
to be a major problem in bilateral rela+ons as the opposi+on Candlelight Party has been
declared an illegal organisa+on. The new government in Cambodia can protect na+onal
sovereignty by renego+a+ng a border treaty with Vietnam as an equal.
Q4. Ethnic Vietnamese immigrants in Cambodia remained a long-standing problem that has
been exploited to fuel na+onalist and an+-Vietnamese sen+ments in Cambodia. Is this s+ll the
case? Will Hun Sen use this to gain public support?
ANSWER: There are an es+mated 400,000 to 700,000 ethnic Vietnamese living in Cambodia
of whom ninety percent are stateless. The opposi+on Cambodian Na+onal Rescue Party
(CNRP) played on ethnic differences to bolster domes+c poli+cal support. This put the Hun
Sen government in a difficult posi+on and it responded with a mixed policy of documenta+on
and registra+on on the one hand and evic+on, reloca+on and deporta+on on the other.
The CNRP and its successor have been declared illegal thus undercucng their efforts to
poli+cize the ethnic Vietnamese issue in domes+c poli+cs. The ethnic Vietnamese issue has
been muted in the 2023 elec+ons.
Hun Sen and his CPP has not played the an+-Vietnamese card and is unlikely to do so.
Academic research indicates that the majority of ethnic Vietnamese in Cambodia, even if they
are stateless, support the CPP and that those who are legally registered will vote for the CPP.
“Cambodia Na+onal Elec+ons Scene Se^er,” Thayer Consultancy Background Brief, July 18,
2023. h^ps://www.scribd.com/document/660110730/Thayer-Cambodia-Na+onal-Elec+ons-
Scene-Se^er.
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at the Centre for Defence and Strategic Studies (CDSS) at the Australian Defence College,
Weston Creek.
During his career, Professor Thayer undertook special study leave at the ANU’s Strategic and
Defence Studies Centre; Harvard’s Center for International Affairs; International Institute of
Strategic Studies in London; Institute of Strategic and International Studies, Chulalongkorn
University in Thailand; Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore; and the Department
of Political Science at Yale.
In 1993, in a career highlight, he was appointed a United Nations Observer for elections in
Cambodia.
Service to the Profession
Thayer was a founding member of the Vietnam Studies Association of Australia and served
three terms as National Secretary/Treasurer (1994-98). He also served as National Secretary
of the Asian Studies Association of Australia (1996-98).
Professional Recognition
In June 1971, Thayer was the Graduate School flag bearer for the 270th commencement
ceremonies at Yale University.
In 2003, Thayer was conferred the Joint Meritorious Service Award by the Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff for his contributions to the Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies, U.S.
Pacific Command.
In 2005, Thayer was appointed the C. V. Starr Distinguished Visiting Professor of Southeast
Asian Studies at The Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins
University in Washington, D.C.
In 2006, Thayer was awarded the Rector’s Commendation for Excellence in Classroom
Teaching at UNSW Canberra.
In 2008, Thayer was appointed the Inaugural Frances M. and Stephen H. Fuller Distinguished
Visiting Professor of Southeast Asian Studies conjointly at the Center for International Affairs
and Center for Southeast Asian Studies at Ohio University, Athens, Ohio.
In 2014, Thayer was invited as a Subject Matter Expert to address the 2nd Expanded ASEAN
Maritime Forum in Da Nang, Vietnam.
In 2015, Thayer was invited as a Subject Matter Expert to address the ASEAN-China Joint
Working Group on the Implementation of the DOC Seminar-Workshop on the
Implementation of the 2002 ASEAN-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South
China Sea (DOC-SCS) in Manila, The Philippines.
In April 2015, Thayer was appointed Eminent Person by the Department of Defence Australian
Civil-Military Centre, to facilitate the East Asia Summit mandated Rapid Disaster Response:
Lessons Learned Seminar held in Sydney in September that was attended by senior officials
from fifteen countries. Thayer wrote the Seminar Discussion Paper.
In April 2020, Professor Thayer was inducted into the Marquis Who’s Who Biographical
Registry and in Marquis Who’s Who Top Professionals.
In 2023, Professor Thayer was the Mace Bearer for graduation ceremonies at UNSW
Canberra.
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