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API Meeting - 8 - 2003
API Meeting - 8 - 2003
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Attached are the minutes from the April 14-16, 2003 meetings of the API Subcommittee on
Corrosion & Materials in Dallas, TX. The next meeting of the subcommittee will be held on
September 15-17, 2003, at the Adams Mark Hotel in Denver, CO. Further information on this
meeting can be obtained at www.api.org/events.
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Best regards,
Roland A. Goodman
Standards Department
goodmanr@api.org
SUBJECT ATTACHMENT
Agenda I
Distribution Date:
August 26, 2003
Minutes
American Petroleum Institute
COMMITTEE ON REFINERY EQUIPMENT
SUBCOMMITTEE ON CORROSION & MATERIALS
Wednesday, April 16, 2003
Sheraton Seattle Hotel & Towers
Seattle, WA
E. H. Niccolls, Chairman
B. L. Jack, Vice-Chairman/Secretary
I. Members and visitors introduced themselves. Changes to the SCCM mailing list were
agreed upon as follows:
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• For Mr. Leigh Klein eliminate P.O. Box 8100 and replace with Cheery Point
Refinery, 4519 Grandview Rd and correct e-mail address to KleinLJ1@BP.com
• For Mr. Saad Al-Dhafiri eliminate Shuaiba and replace with Ahmadi
• For Mr. Waleed Al-Tolaibi eliminate Ahmadi and replace with Shuaiba
II. The Agenda and the October 2, 2002 Meeting Minutes were approved.
A. API to make the above changes to the SCCM Mailing & Contact Lists.
B. API to send out instructions with ballots as to how the ballot should be filled out and
who specifically should vote on a given ballot.
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C. Adel Nasr to identify API standards & documents that reference MR0175. This
reference will eventually need to be updated to MR0103.
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during a chemical cleaning operation. Pipe on either side of the weld was unaffected.
Only RT or perhaps shear wave UT could have detected this corrosion. Post analysis
of some of the remaining corroded weld metal showed high levels of residual
elements (0.51% Ni plus Cu plus Cr). Other welds in the same system with lower
residuals of tramp elements showed much less corrosion. In some cases, only the root
passes of some other welds were corroded. A comment was made that tests have
showed E7018 electrodes to be more resistant to HF corrosion than E6010, which is
often used for root passes. The badly corroded weld had been in service for 20 years
so the long and the long-term corrosion rate, assuming uniform corrosion, was
estimated at 12 mpy.
D. Localized Nap Acid Corrosion of Select 5Cr Pipe Segments in Low TAN Service:
Tim Munsterman also reported on unusual pitting corrosion of select 5 Cr pipe
segments in a pump around line off a vacuum tower. The line operated at ~700F and
because of the fairly low TAN here of 0.7 and relatively low velocities, the corrosion
was originally thought to be from sulfidation. However, the corrosion appearance of
sharp edged scoops and pits that were pencil to half dollar size in diameter struck
most as characteristic of nap acid attack. A 5 Cr elbow near the corroded pipe
segment showed no corrosion, though being more likely a more turbulent location.
Some felt that higher chrome and silicon content in the elbow may have provided for
a more protective sulfide film and more protection from Nap acid attack. Walt
Giesbrecht of Flint Hill Resource Group commented that their experience has shown
differing corrosion patterns between 9 Cr and 5 Cr in TAN service. Walt has seen
more localized corrosion in 9 Cr (preferential attack near welds etc.) than he’s seen
with 5 Cr.
E. New Valve Body Leak During Hydrotest: Walk Giesbrecht (Flint Hill Resource)
cited a recent experience where a brand new 9 Cr valve body leaked when
hydrotested at the refinery just prior to its installation. The leak occurred at a crack in
a weld repair. An informal polling showed that some refineries still pressure test all
new valves prior to installation.
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generator was taken out of service. With the generator out of service, downstream
temperatures and sulfidation rates increased greatly.
H. Corrosion Failure in Low Flow Zones of Air Cooler in Coker Fractionator OVHD:
Brain Jack of ConocoPhillips reported on a corrosion failure in the corner, low flow,
tube of a Coker Fractionator OVHD fin-fan with inlet temperatures of ~330F and
outlet temperatures of ~200F. The fin-fan was 17 years old with no history of tube
failures or corrosion, though only visual inspections, and no eddy current or IRIS type
inspection had been done. Post failure IRIS inspections showed only the corner, or
low flow tubes to have some localized corrosion, which was most prevalent on the
bottom halves of the tubes. It was theorized that the low flow tubes condensed
stagnant water that had the potential to build up high concentrations of NH4HS.
However, initial dew point chloride corrosion wasn’t ruled out despite the fact this
Coker OVHD rarely shows any measurable chlorides in the OVHD receiver and,
when detectable, chlorides are only at 1-2 ppm.
C. Conditions Causing Failure RP 571 – Ballot results good. One negative ballot
resolved and withdrawn. Some other minor comments, changes etc.. Ready for
publication after changes.
E. Vessel Refractories & RP 936 (Attachment VII) – Resolved all issues on RP 936 and
re-balloting. Technical work continues in areas of thermal conductivity of
refractories, shortfalls of ASTM C704 erosion testing and standardization of vendor
heat transfer software tools. The good work of this group needs more recognition.
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VII. Liaison and Representative Reports:
Japan Petroleum Institute – The High Pressure Gas Institute of Japan (KHK) is
developing a safety management system along the lines of OSHA PSM, API 760, EPA
RMP etc. Draft is expected by May 2003. Last year, JPI issued the first version of a post
construction RP for refinery piping & vessels. This document covers inspection
procedures, materials and damage mechanisms.
A. Fall 2003 – Topics were discussed and voted on. The one selected for Fall 2003 is:
FCC Plant Fixed Equipment Reliability: (Refractory, Catalyst withdrawal lines, high
temperature piping) – Hearl Mead and Gerritt Buchheim agreed to organize, with
help from JM, Laurie, and CAS.
Other topics discussed for roundtables were (evergreen list of all ideas):
B. Budget Forecast.
The budget forecast discussed by the subcommittee and endorsed by the CRE is as
follows:
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2003 2004
Research Project 2003 Realloc. Per CRE 2005 2006
Advanced V steels (MPC Deliver.) 25 0
MPC Specific Deliverables 20 0
Ethanol Stress Corrosion Crkng 50 50 50
MPC General Support 10 a 5a 10a 10a 10a
Sulfidation: Asset Research 45 45 45
Sulfidation: Industry Guidelines 20 30
Computational Fluid Dynamics 30
Undefined C&M Research 30 80
C. Other Business
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