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welcome to norse mythology the


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unofficial guide it's unofficial because
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i'm neither a credentialed academic nor
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a time-traveling medieval norse pagan
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but i deal with this material directly
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from the sources interpreted through the
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lens of the experts and their opinions
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if you're looking for depth and detail
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in a simple and accessible way then
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you're in the right place
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[Music]
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oscar textanda hater
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horbadmer
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i know an ash tree stands named igtrazal
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a tall tree made wet with white mud from
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there come the dews that fall in the
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valleys it stands forever green over
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earth as well
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typically i like to use caroline
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larrington's second edition translation
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of the poetic edda whenever i provide
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english versions of old norse poetry but
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in this case i thought it might be fun
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to throw in a translation that i did on
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my own
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going forward i will try to remember to
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call out all of my own translations
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which i will be more likely to provide
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in cases where i feel like other
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translations have sacrificed an
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important nuance and meaning for the
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purpose of poetic effect
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this however is not one of those cases
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newcomers to norse mythology are often
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looking for
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symbols partly because modern popular
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media have conditioned a lot of people
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to think that quote vikings must have
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had cryptic pictographic symbols for
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literally everything and oftentimes they
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will mistakenly refer to these imagined
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symbols as runes
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runes are real of course and to be fair
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there are also a few repeated graphic
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symbols that we do find carved into
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stones and other things from the norse
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period but for the most part runes are
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just an alphabet and the few repeated
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geometric symbols we know of that show
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up in online searches either have
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unclear meanings if they were actually
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used in ancient times or they are early
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modern inventions that were never used
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in medieval norse society
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but whereas ancient norse tradition may
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not have been so focused on cryptic
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geometric patterns as your local tattoo
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shop might want you to believe
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norse and the broader umbrella of
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germanic paganism
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was a highly symbolic religion
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and if i had to pick what i thought was
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the most prominent and pervasive symbol
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of ancient germanic religion it would be
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a tree
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in the last episode we touched on the
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relationship between humans and trees
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poetically it turns out humans are
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equivalent to trees and even originate
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from trees in the myths
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but the influence of trees doesn't stop
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at their relationship to humanity
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we've talked before about how norse
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mythology preserves a memory of one
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particular flavor of northwestern
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germanic paganism
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it gets a lot of focus because it
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provides the most extensive corpus we
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have of pre-christian germanic
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literature
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but gods with similar names and some
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similar stories
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essentially a larger umbrella of the
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same religious tradition was once held
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throughout all of germanic speaking
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northern europe including places like
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england where a lot of the medieval
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christian literature actually preserves
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a few glimpses into the pre-christian
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mindset as well
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the monster grendel in beowulf for
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example is described as an aeotin which
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is the native old english version of the
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old norse jotun which we often see
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translated as giant beowulf also takes
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place in 6th century scandinavia and was
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potentially composed as early as 725 a.d
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which is earlier than the viking age
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although the dating of the poem itself
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is a pretty controversial topic and
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there are reasons to think it might be
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younger
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but somewhere around that same time in
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england an anonymous poet also composed
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some early version of a poem that would
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eventually come to be known as dream of
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the rude where rude spelled r-o-o-d
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is an old-fashioned word for cross
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dream of the rude is a fascinating
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example of the pagan cultural mindset
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reconciling itself to christianity
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in this poem the author claims to have
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had a vision of a towering glorious tree
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all sprinkled with gold and wrapped in
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jewels
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he makes sure to mention that this tree
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was no ordinary gallows for the wicked
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no old hanging tree
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and in fact it turns out that the tree
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is sentient it begins speaking to the
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author and tells him the story of the
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crucifixion of christ
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from the point of view of the cross
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who experienced crucifixion alongside
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jesus
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the tree explains that it was once cut
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down from the edge of a forest and
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fashioned into a cross for executing
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criminals but found itself just by
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chance serving as the instrument of
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death for the savior of the world
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jesus is portrayed like a classic norse
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or germanic young hero in this poem who
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quickly and eagerly climbs the cross
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himself to bravely meet his fate
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though the tree claims to have had the
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power to have killed all of jesus
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enemies then and there
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he chooses instead to perform the task
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required of him by his lord
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the tree relates that both he and jesus
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have to bear the nails that are hammered
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into jesus hands to secure him to the
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cross
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and whereas the soldiers pierce jesus's
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side with a spear
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so the tree and the vision bleeds from
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one side as well
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when jesus dies and is laid in a tomb
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the cross is hewn down and buried in a
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pit but just as jesus is resurrected so
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is the cross discovered pulled from the
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ground and bedecked with golden jewels
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having served jesus essentially as a
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loyal thing the cross seems to have
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become a tree again at this point
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honored and glorified by all the world
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and in the same way that jesus preserves
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his wounds after resurrection showing
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them to his apostles for proof of who he
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is so this glorious tree retains the
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scars from the nails and the blood from
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the crucifixion which are seen amongst
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its ornamentation when the author looks
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carefully
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near the end of the poem the author says
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quote
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i prayed then to the cross with joyous
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heart and eagerness where i was all
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alone companionless my spirit was
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inspired with keenness for departure and
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i spent much time in longing now my hope
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of life is that i may approach the tree
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of triumph alone more often than all
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other men honor it well my wish for that
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is great within my heart and my hope for
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support is turned towards the cross
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i wait each day for when the cross of
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god which here on earth i formerly
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beheld may fetch me from this transitory
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life and carry me to where there is
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great bliss and joy in heaven end quote
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this unifying of experience and purpose
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between the christian lord and the
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animistic tree who is rewarded for
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supporting and submitting to its
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religious superior
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creates a fascinating justification
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for continued veneration of trees within
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a christian context
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no longer as symbols of the pagan
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worldview but as participants in the
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christian doctrine of salvation
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the stanza i recited at the beginning of
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this episode is from voluspa the first
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poem in the poetic edda which is our
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foremost source for norse mythology and
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it describes another towering glorious
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tree called igdrasil
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although trees are commonly stand-ins
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for people in norse poetry the context
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here tells us very clearly that we are
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dealing with an actual tree in this case
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specifically an ash tree and in the
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norse world view the entire cosmos is
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oriented around this tree
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the sources don't ever describe the
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actual creation of utracil
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whether it's one of odinn's creations or
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whether it existed before the rest of
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the world we don't know for sure
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although we do know that it serves an
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important purpose for the norse gods the
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poem grimness mall details how the gods
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ride to igdrassel daily except thor who
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goes on foot where they meet to pass
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their various judgments
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grimness small also provides us two
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different names for the tree one of
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which is yggdrasil's ash and the other
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is la rother la rather is one of those
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obscure hard to decipher words but the
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most common guess about what it means in
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the academic community is something like
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causer of harm or arranger of betrayal
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that may seem like an odd name for a
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tree that serves as the linchpin for the
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entire cosmos until you realize that the
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other name igdrazel more clearly means
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terrifier horse
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currently we only have a theoretical
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understanding of these names and that
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theory rests on a very short anecdote
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given to us by odinn in a poem called
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havamal in stanzas 138 and 139 he tells
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us quote
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i know that i hung on a windswept tree
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nine long nights wounded with a spear
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dedicated to odin myself to myself on
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that tree of which no man knows from
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where its roots run
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with no bread did they refresh me nor
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drink from a horn downwards i appeared i
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took up the runes screaming i took them
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then i fell back from there end quote
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this story is one of many in which odinn
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goes to extreme lengths to gain
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knowledge in this case human sacrificing
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himself to himself for the purpose of
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obtaining whatever it is he gets out of
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the ruins
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whether that is the knowledge to read
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them or the knowledge to perform magic
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spells with them
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it's never explicitly stated what it is
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that he obtains from getting the runes
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but assuming this windswept tree with
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roots of an ambiguous source is indeed a
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reference to igdrassel
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and if that is indeed a place where
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odinn once hung himself then suddenly we
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can interpret this through the lens of a
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relatively common poetic kenning or in
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other words a poetic reference to
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something simple
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by means of a more complicated and
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artistic turn of phrase
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specifically there are a few poems
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wherein a gallows is referred to as the
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horse of the hanged man and it just so
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happens that igor which means terrifier
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is one of over 200 names for odinn given
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in various places throughout the sources
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so the idea is that the egg drasil or
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the terrifier horse is a poetic allusion
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to the idea that odinn once hung himself
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on this tree in his relentless quest for
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wisdom
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taking this one step farther stands a
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three of a skaldic poem called harald's
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droppa by haldor
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refers to a gallows as quote the grim
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harm tree of king cigar's enemy end
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quote
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if a gallows can be referred to with
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descriptions such as harm tree then the
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negative implications of the name la
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rather can potentially make sense
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through this lens as well
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at the risk of allowing myself to muse a
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little bit
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this notion of the tree at the cosmic
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center being used as a gallows for the
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chief of the gods is interesting in
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light of how the author of dream of the
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rood took special care to mention that
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the towering tree from his vision was
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better than a common gallows for the
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wicked
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the association there seems to have
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remained
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and in fact the tree still becomes the
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instrument of death for the more newly
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adopted lord of all the earth
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to be clear there are no stories about
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woden hanging from a tree that have
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survived from pre-christian england
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however the idea of trees being central
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to worship is a broadly germanic concept
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and sacrifice by hanging is described
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amongst germanic people as far back as
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the roman iron age although i should
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mention that there is some controversy
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around the idea of just how accurate
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those descriptions really are
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another name for uggdrassel is mima
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meder which is used only in the poem
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fiosvinsmall and means mimi's tree
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both rudolph zemeck and john lindau
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assume that mimi is probably a variation
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on the name of the god mimir who we are
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told by snorri owns a well situated
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under yukt russell
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one other name used in the poem of
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through the small is hodmimus holt which
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is interpreted as a name for igdrassel
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using the same information about meemir
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as well
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hodmimus holt is probably my personal
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favorite reference to the tree because
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in my opinion it helps ground our
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notions of how this tree was probably
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conceptualized by ancient norse pagans
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often times modern artistic renderings
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of uggdrassel show it floating in space
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or standing alone on a wide open field
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but the word holt here denotes something
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more like a forest or a patch of
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woodland or at the very least a grove of
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trees
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potentially tying into this idea are the
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merseburg charms which are the only
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known surviving pre-christian literature
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written in german or more specifically
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old high german they were discovered in
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1841 having been mysteriously written
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into a blank page of a christian
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liturgical manuscript in the 9th or 10th
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century by some unknown cleric for some
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unknown reason in fulda germany the
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first one is a charm for being freed
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from chains
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the second one is a healing charm and it
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tells a story about the gods wodan and
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balder writing to the halt the phrase is
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warren siholza where balder's horse is
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suddenly
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injured in that it dislocates a joint or
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something along those lines
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some of the goddesses are present as
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well and they along with wodon
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enchant the horse such that it becomes
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healed wodon and balder in this german
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story obviously correspond with odinn
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and balder from the norse corpus and
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variations on the formula found in the
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charm are also found in various places
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in scandinavia as well
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one interpretation of the story is that
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the reason these characters were riding
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to the halt is because as vothruthnismal
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seems to suggest this is the place where
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uggdrussell stands and igdrossel is
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where the gods ride to render judgments
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every day
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michael j swisher would have us keep in
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mind that this interpretation is only a
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supposition
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he prefers another interpretation
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wherein the gods are writing to the
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forest on a hunt because of the way
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similar phrases are most commonly used
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in old high german literature
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however
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as joseph s hopkins points out
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references to groves of trees serving as
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sacred spaces or areas of worship are a
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constantly recurring staple of the
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ancient germanic record the earliest of
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which stretch all the way back to
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descriptions given by roman authors and
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the latest of which extend over a
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millennia beyond the christianization of
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the north germanic people
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so it seems to me that a germanic story
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placing deities in a grove or holt in
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this case is very unlikely to intend no
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religious significance for the holt
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itself
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this is some of my own musing again but
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given what we know about the religious
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and poetic relationship between trees
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and
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both humans and gods it occurs to me
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that a grove of trees is even visually
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reminiscent of a council of gods meeting
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together to pass judgments
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igdrassel is often called the world tree
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by modern scholars because it falls in
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line with a common motif found in
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religious traditions from all over the
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world wherein the various realms of the
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universe are in some way connected or
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anchored to a tree
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in the norse context igbrussel connects
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the world by means of its roots most
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explicitly stanza 31 of grimnesmal
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explains quote three roots there grow in
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three directions under yggdrasil's ash
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hell lives under one under the second
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the frost giants under the third
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humankind end quote
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the word larrington renders as frost
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giants here is krimthursar which we
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mentioned in episode one that were not
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actually considered to be gigantic
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beings even though giant is the common
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translation for the word thorse
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and hell in this case is spelled with
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one l and references the norse world of
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the dead not the christian hell with two
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l's
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so grimness small has the roots of the
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world tree demarcating the world of the
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dead the world of the so-called giants
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and the world of humanity interestingly
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dividing the cosmos up into what
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essentially amounts to the afterlife the
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unseen world and the perceptible world
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in terms of their physical locations
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this is where things start to get a
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little hairy
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the original text of this stanza from
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grimness mall uses derivations of the
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word under twice
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which is partly why i've gone to great
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lengths in previous episodes and
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provided examples to lay a foundation
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for the idea that we don't have to take
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this as literally as we are inclined to
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in modern english
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greco-roman depictions of the quote
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underworld as a location beneath the
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earth have preconditioned us to think
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that when hell is specified as existing
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underneath one of yggdrasil's roots
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we immediately imagine some dark
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cavernous place underground and then
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with that imagery already in place we
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read the line about hrimthursar living
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under a second root and it may not be
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exactly what we expect but we think
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hey i can accept a description of
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supernatural antagonists living
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underground there's still a lot of
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modern scandinavian folklore about
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subterranean mischief makers for example
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but then we read that third line stating
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that humankind lives under one of these
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roots and we start struggling for an
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explanation
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i certainly don't live underground so
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what does that mean is igrazil in the
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sky somewhere is there something in the
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sky the norse people might have looked
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up at and interpreted it as a tree root
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above them
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and now because of this focus on the
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word under everything else that is said
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to be under igrazil in the myths is
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suddenly being imagined as underground
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somewhere and we forget that the
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simplest interpretation of something
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being described as under a tree has
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always just been that the tree towers
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over it such as when you rest underneath
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the tree on a sunny day
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once again usage of the word under in
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the stanza is admittedly weird but i
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personally choose to interpret this as
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meaning these worlds are under the
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purview of or in other words demarcated
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by yggdrasil's roots as opposed to being
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literally underneath them
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this isn't to say that the world of the
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dead in particular never carried any
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notion of being underground in fact
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there are a lot of clues that point in
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exactly that direction
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but i find that this interpretation
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helps me avoid a lot of mental
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gymnastics that are otherwise required
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for wrapping my head around how the
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locations of the universe are physically
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put together
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and notice that so far we are still very
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easily dealing with the realms of the
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world as existing on a relatively flat
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plane
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snorri seems to have struggled with this
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concept in the prose edda as well
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and ended up coming to his own
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interpretations that don't involve a
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flat plane in his description one root
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is among the assyr the gods one is among
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the krimthursar and the area that used
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to be the yawning void called ginungagap
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before the world was created and the
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third extends across niflheim which
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snorri associates with hell
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so his account possibly trades out the
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route demarcating the lands of humankind
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with one for the home of the gods
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although snorri does also sort of imply
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that osgarther is within midgardr at one
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point and even here he goes on to say
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that the third route the one that mark
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snifflehame also extends to heaven and
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that every day when the asia ride to
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igdrassel they have to ride up there by
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way of a bridge called by a couple of
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different names as most things are in
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norse mythology either bivrost billrost
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or osbreu
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and this bridge is literally just the
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common rainbow
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most commonly we see bivrost
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mispronounced as bifrost but it's
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actually a compound made from the word
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biv meaning tremble or shake and rost
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which means rest in a sense that denotes
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something akin to a mile
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a rest is essentially the distance one
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would travel before taking a rest so
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bivrost seems to mean tremble mile which
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i suppose could be a reference to the
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way a rainbow sometimes shimmers in the
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light
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similarly billrost which rudolph zmac
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speculates maybe the older term means
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momentary rest
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probably referencing the way rainbows
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appear for only a moment and then
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disappear
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and then the third name snory gives us
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alsbru just means god bridge
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medieval norse society conceptualized
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the rainbow as being composed of three
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colors and snory explains that the red
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we see in the rainbow is actually fire
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that prevents the jotnar and other
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beings from crossing it although he also
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claims that at the end of the world the
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yotnad will cross it anyway
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so in snorri's view whereas humans are
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limited to traversing the world on just
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a horizontal axis the gods are able to
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traverse both a horizontal and vertical
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axis earlier in the story he asserts
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that osgarther where the gods made their
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home is another name for the ancient
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city of troy and that it was a place
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where many events took place quote both
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on earth and aloft end quote
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so how accurate is snorri's conception
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of norse cosmology
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unfortunately it's kind of impossible to
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say
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at the end of the day snorri is a
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christian scholar yes he lived closer to
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the time of norse paganism than we do
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although he was still hundreds of years
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removed from it and yes he appears to
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have had access to some sources that no
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longer survive
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although he frequently contradicts
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himself and clearly embellishes the
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material and interprets mythology
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through a learned
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christianity-influenced factually
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incorrect model of medieval style
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history
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snorri is an academic with opinions just
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like rudolph zemeck whose book i
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frequently cite or john lindau or
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caroline larrington
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scholars are often wrong and are allowed
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to be wrong
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oftentimes they revise their opinions
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over time and oftentimes that's in
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response to other scholars disagreeing
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with them
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an incorrect idea can frequently be the
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catalyst for a better idea
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so whatever amount you put your trust in
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snorri will ultimately have to be up to
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you but the key takeaway is that it is
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fundamentally okay to disagree with
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snorri if you feel like there is
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something he may be missing he's only
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human
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in my case although god's traversing the
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sky is hardly a novel concept
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i lean a little more toward the idea
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that the original pagan model of the
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cosmos may have been a lot flatter than
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snorri sometimes makes it out to be
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for a little bit of archaeological
22:22
evidence regarding the shape of the
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universe in the norse pagan mind we can
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turn to the way farms and villages were
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designed in ancient north scandinavia
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christopher abram notes that farms in
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pagan sweden and norway were centered
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around a special protective tree in the
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middle of an enclosure that immediately
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surrounded a farmhouse
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this seems to mirror descriptions we get
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from snorri that there is a beautiful
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hall that stands under uggdrazel and
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that myth garder is protected by an
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enormous enclosure made from the
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eyelashes of the primordial yotun emir
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abram like many others suggests this as
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evidence for the idea that the myth of
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the world tree originated outside of
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iceland
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matthias nordvig agrees in his chapter
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on cosmology in volume three of
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pre-christian religions of the north he
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notes that the design of myth garther
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described by snorri is also reminiscent
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of hill forts and ring forts dated
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between 200 and 650 a.d
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that feature circular enclosures with a
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building next to a large tree or next to
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a large post which probably represents a
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tree in the center
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and in fact even adam of bremen who
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provided a secondhand account of a pagan
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temple at uppsala sweden in the 11th
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century described the temple next to a
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prominent tree all surrounded by an
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enclosure
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and there's also one other feature of
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the area surrounding the sacred tree in
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all of these places the mythology the
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farms the forts and the temples namely a
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well and perhaps in the mythology more
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than one well always lying beneath the
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world tree which again doesn't have to
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mean underground
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these wells are the source of wisdom and
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fate and seem to be a popular place for
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gods to deposit body parts
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but we'll save wells and fate for next
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time on norse mythology the unofficial
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guide
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sources for this episode include
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cosmology by matthias nordvig in
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pre-christian religions of the north
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volume 3 2020 dictionary of northern
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mythology by rudolph zmac 2010 dream of
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the rood translated by richard hamer
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1970 evergreen ash ecology and
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catastrophe and old norse myth in
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literature by christopher abram 2019
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norse mythology a guide to the gods
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heroes rituals and beliefs by john
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lindau 2001 sacred tree in holy grove by
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joseph s hopkins at mimisbrunner.info
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2020. the forest in old high german
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literature by michael j swisher in
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amsterdam by trigger to elton
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germanistic 1988 the poetic edda
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translated by caroline larrington 2014
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and the prose edda translated by anthony
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falks 1995.
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