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DD Cen TS 00081-11-2011
DD Cen TS 00081-11-2011
National foreword
This Draft for Development is the UK implementation of CEN/TS
81-11:2011. It supersedes DD CEN/TS 81-11:2009 which is withdrawn.
This publication is not to be regarded as a British Standard.
It is being issued in the Draft for Development series of publications
and is of a provisional nature. It should be applied on this
provisional basis, so that information and experience of its practical
application can be obtained.
Comments arising from the use of this Draft for Development
are requested so that UK experience can be reported to the
international organization responsible for its conversion to
an international standard. A review of this publication will
be initiated not later than 3 years after its publication by the
international organization so that a decision can be taken on its
status. Notification of the start of the review period will be made in
an announcement in the appropriate issue of Update Standards.
According to the replies received by the end of the review period,
the responsible BSI Committee will decide whether to support the
conversion into an international Standard, to extend the life of the
Technical Specification or to withdraw it. Comments should be sent
to the Secretary of the responsible BSI Technical Committee at British
Standards House, 389 Chiswick High Road, London W4 4AL.
The UK participation in its preparation was entrusted to Technical
Committee MHE/4, Lifts, hoists and escalators.
A list of organizations represented on this committee can be
obtained on request to its secretary.
This publication does not purport to include all the necessary
provisions of a contract. Users are responsible for its correct
application.
© BSI 2011
ISBN 978 0 580 71861 8
ICS 91.140.90
Compliance with a British Standard cannot confer immunity from
legal obligations.
This Draft for Development was published under the authority of
the Standards Policy and Strategy Committee on 30 April 2011.
Amendments issued since publication
Date Text affected
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English Version
Règles de sécurité pour la construction et l'installation des Sicherheitsregeln für die Konstruktion und den Einbau von
élévateurs - Fondamentaux et interprétations - Partie 11: Aufzügen - Grundlagen und Auslegungen - Teil 11:
Interprétations relatives aux normes de la famille EN 81 Auslegungen zur Normenreihe EN 81
This Technical Specification (CEN/TS) was approved by CEN on 3 January 2011 for provisional application.
The period of validity of this CEN/TS is limited initially to three years. After two years the members of CEN will be requested to submit their
comments, particularly on the question whether the CEN/TS can be converted into a European Standard.
CEN members are required to announce the existence of this CEN/TS in the same way as for an EN and to make the CEN/TS available
promptly at national level in an appropriate form. It is permissible to keep conflicting national standards in force (in parallel to the CEN/TS)
until the final decision about the possible conversion of the CEN/TS into an EN is reached.
CEN members are the national standards bodies of Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia,
Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland,
Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and United Kingdom.
© 2011 CEN All rights of exploitation in any form and by any means reserved Ref. No. CEN/TS 81-11:2011: E
worldwide for CEN national Members.
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Contents Page
Foreword ..............................................................................................................................................................3
Introduction .........................................................................................................................................................4
1 Scope ......................................................................................................................................................5
2 Normative references ............................................................................................................................5
3 List of interpretations ............................................................................................................................6
3.1 Interpretations pertaining to EN 81-1:1998 and EN 81-2:1998 ..........................................................6
3.2 Interpretations pertaining to EN 81-28:2003 .................................................................................... 16
3.3 Interpretations pertaining to EN 81-58:2003 .................................................................................... 16
3.4 Interpretations pertaining to EN 81-70:2003 .................................................................................... 16
3.5 Interpretations pertaining to EN 81-72:2003 .................................................................................... 17
3.6 Interpretations pertaining to EN 81-73:2005 .................................................................................... 19
4 Interpretations ..................................................................................................................................... 20
4.1 For EN 81-1 and EN 81-2 .................................................................................................................... 20
4.2 For EN 81-28 ........................................................................................................................................ 20
4.3 For EN 81-58 ........................................................................................................................................ 20
4.4 For EN 81-70 ........................................................................................................................................ 20
4.5 For EN 81-72 ........................................................................................................................................ 20
4.6 For EN 81-73 ........................................................................................................................................ 20
Section 4.1 - Interpretations related to EN 81-1 and EN 81-2 ...................................................................... 21
Section 4.2 - Interpretations related to EN 81-28 ........................................................................................ 117
Section 4.3 - Interpretations related to EN 81-58 ........................................................................................ 119
Section 4.4 - Interpretations related to EN 81-70 ........................................................................................ 121
Section 4.5 - Interpretations related to EN 81-72 ........................................................................................ 133
Section 4.6 - Interpretations related to EN 81-73 ........................................................................................ 149
Annex A (normative) List of interpretations pertaining to previous editions of EN 81-1 and EN 81-
2 still valid for EN 81-1/2:1998 ......................................................................................................... 151
Bibliography ................................................................................................................................................... 159
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Foreword
This document (CEN/TS 81-11:2011) has been prepared by Technical Committee CEN/TC 10 “Lifts,
escalators and moving walks”, the secretariat of which is held by AFNOR.
Attention is drawn to the possibility that some of the elements of this document may be the subject of patent
rights. CEN [and/or CENELEC] shall not be held responsible for identifying any or all such patent rights.
This document is a collection of interpretations related to the EN 81 family of standards. For the time being
this collection of interpretations relates to the following standards: EN 81-1, EN 81-2, EN 81-28, EN 81-58, EN
81-70, EN 81-72 and EN 81-73. According to the progress in working out interpretations, this document will be
amended and/or completed.
This is the second edition of this CEN Technical Specification. It replaces the former CEN/TS 81-11:2009.
According to the CEN/CENELEC Internal Regulations, the national standards organizations of the following
countries are bound to announce this Technical Specification: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus,
Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy,
Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia,
Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.
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Introduction
Standards reflect the consensus of the best European expertise and are prepared with highest care. Product
standards cannot be formulated in such a way that they describe all possible technical solutions and therefore
exclude all uncertainties regarding the understanding of the required provisions. On the other hand technology
is in a permanent evolution, the progress of which cannot be incorporated into standards quickly enough.
b) feedback to the CEN-Committee responsible for a standard about the practical experiences resulting from
the use of the standard;
2) progress in technology;
Information concerning the procedure developed by CEN/TC 10 concerning the elaboration of interpretations
is shown in CEN/TR 81-10.
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1 Scope
This Technical Specification is a collection of interpretations related to the EN 81 family of standards (see
CEN/TR 81-10:2008). As second issue, this document collects interpretations to EN 81-1:1998, EN 81-
2:1998, EN 81-28:2003, EN 81-58:2003, EN 81-70:2003, EN 81-72:2003 and EN 81-73:2005.
Interpretations to other standards of the EN 81 family will be added when they are available.
Interpretations aim to improve the understanding of the clause(s) they are referring to and by that facilitating
common understanding between manufacturers, lift installers, notified bodies, inspection bodies and national
authorities.
Interpretations do not have the same status as the standards to which they are related. However, the
application of interpretations should give to the interested parties confidence that the relevant standard has
not been wrongly applied.
2 Normative references
The following referenced documents are indispensable for the application of this document. For dated
references, only the edition cited applies. For undated references, the latest edition of the referenced
document (including any amendments) applies.
EN 81-1:1998, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Part 1: Electric lifts
EN 81-1:1998/A1:2005, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Part 1: Electric lifts
EN 81-1:1998/A2:2004, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Part 1: Electric lifts — A2:
Machinery and pulley spaces
EN 81-2:1998, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Part 2: Hydraulic lifts
EN 81-2:1998/A1:2005, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Part 2: Hydraulic lifts
EN 81-2:1998/A2:2004, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Part 2: Hydraulic lifts — A2:
Machinery and pulley spaces
EN 81-28:2003, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Lifts for the transport of persons
and goods — Part 28: Remote alarm on passenger and goods passenger lifts
EN 81-58:2003, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Examination and tests — Part 58:
Landing doors fire resistance test
EN 81-70:2003, Safety rules for the construction and installations of lifts — Particular applications for
passenger and good passengers lifts — Part 70: Accessibility to lifts for persons including persons with
disability
EN 81-70:2003/A1:2004, Safety rules for the construction and installations of lifts − Particular applications for
passenger and goods passengers lifts – Part 70: Accessibility to lifts for persons including persons with
disability
EN 81-72:2003, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Particular applications for
passenger and goods passenger lifts — Part 72: Firefighters lifts
EN 81-73:2005, Safety rules for the construction and installation of lifts — Particular applications for
passenger and goods passenger lifts — Part 73: Behaviour of lifts in the event of fire
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3 List of interpretations
The following lists show the valid interpretations contained in this document.
This edition of CEN/TS 81-11 is updated with the following list of interpretations (see Tables 1 and 2): 585,
586, 587, 588, 592, 593, 594 and 595.
Table 2 shows the list of interpretations in order of the clauses of EN 81-1:1998 and
EN 81-2:1998 with the corresponding keywords.
A number of interpretations pertaining to EN 81-1:1978, EN 81-1:1985 and EN 81-2:1987 are considered still
valid for EN 81-1:1998 and EN 81-2:1998. Annex A shows the lists of these interpretations1).
1) These interpretations are available from the National CEN Member organisations or CEN/TC 10 secretariat.
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Table 1 — List of interpretations in numerical order (EN 81-1 and EN 81-2) (continued)
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Table 1 — List of interpretations in numerical order (EN 81-1 and EN 81-2) (continued)
Valid for
Interpretation Date of
Related clause (edition Key words
number validity
1998)
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Table 1 — List of interpretations in numerical order (EN 81-1 and EN 81-2) (continued)
571 8.13.3; 8.13.3.2; 8.13.4 2005-02-11 EN 81-1/2 Height of balustrade; car roof
572 8.13.3 2005-02-11 EN 81-1/2 Car roof; balustrade
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Valid for
Related clause Interpretation Date of validity Keywords
number (edition 1998)
7.5.2.1.1.1 575 2005-02-11 EN 81-1/2 Door closing effort; kinetic energy of doors
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Table 2 — Interpretations in order of the clauses (EN 81-1 and EN 81-2) (continued)
8.7.2.1.1.1 575 2005-02-11 EN 81-1/2 Door closing effort; kinetic energy of doors
8.7.2.1.1.2 575 2005-02-11 EN 81-1/2 Door closing effort; kinetic energy of doors
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Table 2 — Interpretations in order of the clauses (EN 81-1 and EN 81-2) (continued)
Valid for
Related clause Interpretation Date of validity (edition Keywords
number 1998)
9.9.2.1 (last indent) 526 2001-04-15 EN 81-2 Clamping device; tripping speed
9.10.3 535 2001-04-15 EN 81-1 Ascending car; overspeed; retardation of the car
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Table 2 — Interpretations in order of the clauses (EN 81-1 and EN 81-2) (continued)
Valid for
Related clause Interpretation Date of validity Keywords
number (edition 1998)
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Table 2 — Interpretations in order of the clauses (EN 81-1 and EN 81-2) (concluded)
Valid for
Related clause Interpretation Date of validity Keywords
number (edition 1998)
Table N.1 546 2001-12-14 EN 81-1 Sheave equivalent number evaluation Nequiv(t)
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Table 4 shows the list of interpretations in order of the clauses of EN 81-28:2003 with the corresponding
keywords.
This edition of CEN/TS 81-11 is updated with the interpretations given in Table 5 and 6.
Table 6 shows the list of interpretations in order of the clauses of EN 81-58:2003 with the corresponding
keywords.
This edition of CEN/TS 81-11 is updated with the interpretations 007, 008 and 009 (see Table 7 and 8).
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Table 8 shows the list of interpretations in order of the clauses of EN 81-70:2003 with the corresponding
keywords.
003 2007-09-15
5.2.4 EN 81-70 Door protection device
004 2007-09-15
Table 10 shows the list of interpretations in order of the clauses of EN 81-72:2003 with the corresponding
keywords.
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This edition of CEN/TS 81-11 is updated with the interpretations given in Table 11 and 12.
Table 12 shows the list of interpretations in order of the clauses of EN 81-73:2005 with the corresponding
keywords.
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4 Interpretations
The following interpretations are presented in this document:
Interpretations N°1.
Interpretations N°1.
Interpretations N°1 to 9.
Interpretations N°1.
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INTERPRETATION
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
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Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 5.6.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
In 5.6.1 a rigid screen is required as a separation of the travelling area of the counterweight or the
balancing weight. This screen shall extend from a position of not more than 0,30 m to a position of at
least 2,50 m. In case of compensating ropes/chains it is not possible to maintain the required 0,30 m
because of the diversion of these elements in the pit.
In those cases, the screen can only extend from a higher position, or a slot with sufficient width for the
movement of the compensating means has to be provided. It would also be useful to leave a space for
checking the buffers.
INTERPRETATION
At the next revision of the standard, the following text will be submitted to the voting procedures
according to the internal rules of CEN:
In the case of lifts with compensating means it is regarded as acceptable that the lower end of the
screen is lifted to a height corresponding to the height of the fully compressed buffer(s).
If this additional free height is not sufficient for diverting the compensating means additional slot(s) may
be provided where necessary.
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INTERPRETATION
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RELATED TO EN 81-2
Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-2 1998 12.5.7 Date of modification:
QUESTION
According to 12.5.7, a filter shall be installed between the shut-off valve and the down direction valve.
An inspection body has raised the question whether 12.5.7 requires a filter also in front of the
emergency lowering valve.
INTERPRETATION
In the standard there is no requirement to place a filter in front of the emergency lowering valve.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
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Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 Table J.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Contrary to Table J.2, there is no indication in Table J.1 for which type of fixing of the glass panels (all
sides, 2-side, 4-point) the stated panel dimensions are valid.
Based on our experience the fixing of the glass panels is of great importance.
INTERPRETATION
The values in Table J.1 are valid for a 4-side fixing of the glass panels in a metal frame.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 Table J.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
In Table J.1, the dimensions of the glass panels is indicated by the “diameter of inscribed circle”. Is this
statement valid for square panels only, or can it also be used for rectangular panels, the sides of which
correspond to the “diameter of inscribed circle”?
INTERPRETATION
The values in Table J.1 are also valid for rectangular glass panels.
Deviating from the mathematical definition, the wording 'inscribed circle' in this context means the
largest circle which can be placed inside the shape of a glass panel.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 13.3.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 60204, by 7.3, excludes the necessity of overload protection if the power of the motor is less or
equal to 0,5 kW.
Can the Committee accept the rule according to EN 60204, 7.3, that overload protection is only
necessary with a motor above 0,5 kW for lifts as an exception to 13.3.2?
INTERPRETATION
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Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 13.4.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
In the case that more than one entrance to a machine room is arranged, each entrance shall be
provided with a mainline switch in the vicinity of the entrance.
If one of the main switches is “switched off” and “locked out”, than it shall not be possible to switch the
mains on at the other entrance.
INTERPRETATION
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RELATED TO EN 81-1
Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1 1998 14.2.1.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Actuating the inspection operation neutralises the effects of the emergency electrical operation, i.e. the
commands for movements are inoperative when controlling from the emergency electrical operation
switch but the movements of the car remain prevented.
In the case of actuating the emergency electrical operation switch whilst the inspection operation is
actuated, to suppress any movement of the car from the car roof leads to the following hazards:
• Unexpected stopping of the car for the person standing on the car roof.
In the case of triggering the inspection operation whilst the emergency electrical operation is actuated,
there is no hazard as the person is standing in the vicinity of the landing from which he got onto the car
roof.
INTERPRETATION
When actuating the emergency electrical operation switch whilst the inspection operation is actuated,
the emergency electrical operation is inactive, the up-/down-buttons of the inspection operation shall
remain effective.
When actuating the inspection operation whilst the emergency electrical operation is actuated, the
emergency electrical operation becomes inactive, the up-/down-buttons of the inspection operation
shall become effective.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 F.6 Date of modification:
QUESTION
What shall be tested, the safety circuits individually or the whole electric safety chain?
INTERPRETATION
Only the safety circuits and not the whole safety chain shall be tested. If the safety circuit consists of
electronic components it is subject to type testing with CE-marking only for that device. The whole
safety chain cannot be type-tested due to the fact that the field is wiring the terminals and cannot be
wired in a single way of design.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 Table H.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
How to proceed if current paths of electric safety circuits run on printed circuit boards which have no
other function in this circuit?
INTERPRETATION
If a current path of an electric safety circuit runs on a printed circuit board which has no other function
in this circuit, the requirements in Table H.1 with regard to clearances and creepage distances have to
be followed.
During the examinations and tests before going into service it has to be checked whether the
requirements are followed.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 14.1.2.1.3; H.1 (table) Date of modification:
QUESTION
How to define the borders between electric safety circuits and the connections to different points of the
electric safety chain for gathering information?
INTERPRETATION
Monitoring circuits with the connections to different points of the electric safety chain for gathering
information are not safety circuits in the sense of the Lift Directive 95/16/EC, Annex IV, but the
designer of these circuits has to follow the requirements in EN 81-1/2, Annex H.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
Page 1 of 1
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 15 Date of modification:
QUESTION
According to the above mentioned clauses the data plate of a safety device shall indicate
− The Lift Directive asks only for the “CE” sign plus identification number of the Notified Body.
− An official European type examination sign does not exist as far as we know.
− A type examination sign and its references may not exist in case of a quality system according to
Module H, Annex IX.
− The safety device must be clearly identified, e.g. by the exact type name or series number. How to
guarantee this identification shall be defined by the manufacturer in line with his Quality
Assessment Procedure?
Is our interpretation correct, that “type examination sign and its references” means anything which
clearly identifies the safety device, e.g. the type examination certificate number, or the type-name, or
the series-name, and/or serial number?
INTERPRETATION
Besides the marking required by the Lifts Directive 95/16/EC additional identification of a safety
component is necessary to enable it to be traced to its type examination certificate (see EN 81-1/2,
F.0).
Due to the fact that no official type examination sign exists the text "b) the type examination sign and
its reference" shall be understood as means of identification of a safety component, e.g. by the type
examination certificate number, or the type name, or the series name, or serial number.
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RELATED TO EN 81-2
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Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-2 1998 10.5.3.1; 10.5.3.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
10.5.3.1 prescribes that the final limit switch shall close automatically when the car leaves the
actuation zone, and 10.5.3.2 requires that after the operation of the final limit switch car movement in
response to car and landing calls only shall no longer be possible, even in the case of the car leaving
the actuation zone by creeping.
What may or shall remain operative, e.g. re-levelling/levelling in accordance with 14.2.1.2 a), automatic
dispatch to the lowest landing in accordance with 14.2.1.5 b), fire emergency-, firefighters-, inspection-,
parking-journey?
INTERPRETATION
If the electrical anti-creep system in accordance with 14.2.1.5 is used, it shall become operational after
the car leaves the actuating zone of the final limit switch.
It is the intention of 10.5.3 to block the lift until a competent person has found the cause for the
activation of the final limit switch. Therefore, fire emergency-, fire-fighters- and parking-journeys (not
the journey as mentioned in 14.2.1.5 b)) shall be prevented.
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Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-2 1998 10.5.3.1; 10.5.3.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
According to 10.5.3.1 the final limit switch shall clause automatically when the car leaves the actuation
zone.
10.5.3.2 sets that after the operation of the final limit switch car movement in response to calls shall no
longer be possible, even in the case of the car leaving the actuation zone by creeping.
Interpretation No. 201 sets "all functions are required, except those associated for the use by
passengers".
Interpretation No. 254 sets "all functions shall be provided, except those connected to normal service".
INTERPRETATION
If the electrical anti-creep system in accordance with 14.2.1.5 is used, it shall become operational after
the car leaves the actuating zone of the final limit switch.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
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Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from: 2001-04-15
QUESTION
By using the term "Gegensprechen" in the German version of EN 81-1/2 a very particular service,
related to the requirements of an emergency alarm device, is described.
The definition in the English version is in so far unambiguous as there is said "This device shall allow a
two-way voice communication allowing permanent contact with a rescue service."
1)
When translating into German it does not derive that a "Gegensprechverbindung" is meant, but that it
must be a two-way voice communication.
If with "two-way voice communication" simply "speaking" was meant, then the English version
represents that a voice connection which works in both directions is required, independent whether it is
2) 1)
"Wechselsprechen" or "Gegensprechen" .
It is assumed that in the car, whichever system is used, except for triggering, no other action by the
trapped person is necessary.
As clarified above, the text "two-way voice communication" of the English basic version is clearly
translated wrong.
The terms "two-way voice communication" and "permanent contact" can only mean that:
2)
Wechselsprechen, Wechselsprechverbindung: Intercom allowing to speak only on one end at a time.
INTERPRETATION
NOTE: This subject is being separately studied by CEN/TC 10/WG 4 who's final draft document will
shortly be submitted to CEN enquiry.
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RELATED TO EN 81-1/2
Page 1 of 2
Standard: Edition: Clause(s): Valid from:
2001-04-15
EN 81-1/2 1998 14.1.2.1.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Background:
It is forbidden to bypass the safety chain with a wire-bridge. However, we all know that this has
occurred especially for investigating a fault in the door contact part of the safety chain.
A wire-bridge creates a very dangerous situation for maintenance personnel as well as for passengers
and caused some fatal accidents. The maintenance person can forget that he bypassed the door
contact while working e.g. on the car roof. A forgotten wire-bridge can be dangerous for passengers if
another fault occurs.
(The standard for USA and Canada as well as the standard for Hong Kong require a bypass means in
the form of a switch, respectively plug and socket in the control cabinet.)
Conclusion
The Risk Analysis shows different hazardous situations and possible corrective actions. According to
this RA, the corrective action "Bypassing the door contacts by special switching means" is the most
suitable solution. It protects maintenance personnel as well as passengers by preventing normal
operation and automatic travels and keeping the system in a mode similar to the inspection- and recall
mode as long as the bypass is active.
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INTERPRETATION
Based on the above conclusion, and considering that the device is only used for repair and not
maintenance, the following supplementary text will be considered at the next revision of the standard:
14.2.1.6 Landing and car door bypass device
For repair on landing door-, car door- and door locking contacts a bypass device shall be provided in
the control panel or emergency and test panel with warning notices (15.3 e) and 15.4.7).
Such a device shall:
a) neutralize
1) the normal operation controls, including the operation of any automatic power operated doors
b) bypass the contacts of landing doors (7.7.4.1) and/or landing door locks (7.7.3.1) or car door(s)
(8.9.2).
The contacts of the car door(s) and landing doors shall not be bypassed at the same time.
c) be a device operated by using a tool, e.g. use of a screwdriver or the emergency unlocking key;
f) activate an audible signal at the car and a flashing light under the car during movement of the car.
In the text of 14.1.2.1.3 add to the references in the brackets a new reference to 14.2.1.6.
15.3 e): a warning notice stating: "Be aware of bypassed contacts on doors and door locking devices
and check the locked position of the landing doors" on or in close vicinity of the inspection control
station.
15.4.7: On or near the landing and car door bypass device there shall be a warning notice stating: "Be
aware of bypassed contacts on doors and door locking devices".
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EN 81-1/2 1998 5.9 Date of modification:
QUESTION
According to 5.9 of EN 81-1/2 the intensity of the illumination shall be at least 50 lx 1 m above the car
roof. The lighting shall comprise one lamp at most 0,5 m from the highest and lowest points in the well
with intermediate lamps.
In practical life it is difficult to get the 50 lx intensity of illumination in any place in the well with the
lamps permanently fixed in the hoistway because the intensity depends not only on the lamps but also
on the surface and painting used in the well.
Is it allowed to install one of the intermediate lamps permanently on the car roof to ensure the required
level of illumination? This lamp would of course have the supply according to 13.4.1 and switches
according to 13.6.3.2.
INTERPRETATION
Yes.
c) to define where the 50 lux level of illumination shall be measured independent from the position of
the car in the well:
- on the car roof, 1 m above the car roof, within its vertical projection, and
- 1 m above the pit floor everywhere a person can stand, work, and/or move between working areas;
d) to allow person entering the well in a safe way. It is assumed that 50 lux illumination at sill and
header of landing doors, when all landing doors are closed is sufficient;
e) to maintain at least 20 lux outside of the areas defined in a) and b) in the well.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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QUESTION
There is some confusion about which loads should be calculated below the buffers,
− is it 4 times the static load being imposed by the mass of the fully loaded car under each car
buffer, as requested in the German versions of EN 81-1/2, or
− is it 4 times the static load being imposed by the mass of the fully loaded car distributed amongst
all car buffers, as requested in the English versions of EN 81-1/2?
INTERPRETATION
EN 81-1/2 imply that the floor of the pit shall be able to support 4 times the static load being imposed
by the mass of the fully loaded car, and distributed amongst all car buffers.
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Key-word(s):
Replacing interpretation No.:
Glass panels, partially enclosed well; points normally accessible to
persons
QUESTION
According to EN 81-1/2, 5.3.1.2, Glass panels, placed at points normally accessible to persons shall be
made of laminated glass up to a height as required in 5.2.1.2.
In 5.2.1.2 a), for partially enclosed well, it is stated that the height of the enclosure at places normally
accessible to persons shall be minimum 3,50 m at a landing door side.
According to these clauses glass used at the landing door side shall be laminated glass up to a height
of 3,50 m.
We believe it should be permitted to use normal glass (float glass) above a height of 3,50 m, as
INTERPRETATION
According to 5.3, first sentence, the design of well enclosures made of glass, outside the areas
specified in 5.2.1.2 has to comply with national building regulations.
The requirements of 5.3.1.1 are regarded as sufficient to reduce the risk of damage of the enclosure
made of glass, by an inadvertent falling tool during maintenance work, to an acceptable level.
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QUESTION
INTERPRETATION
Yes, the reference to the degree of protection provided by enclosure (IP code) is EN 60529:1991.
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EN 81-1 1998 9.8.3.1 Date of modification:
Key-word(s):
Replacing interpretation No.:
Balancing weight; counterweight; safety gear; safety rope; suspension
means
QUESTION
This clause states that under certain conditions the counterweight (or balancing weight) safety gear
can be triggered by means of suspension means breakage or by means of a safety rope.
But the standard does not give any requirement for the functioning of these devices.
Is it not better to complete this clause taking into account by analogy 9.10.3 and 9.10.4 of part 2
(hydraulic)?
INTERPRETATION
Yes, this will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 10.3.1 (2 indent) Date of modification:
QUESTION
This indent does apply only where buffers move with the car (or the counterweight in Part 1) as it was
mentioned in the former text.
See EN 81-1, December 1985 and/or EN 81-2, November 1987.
Is it correct?
INTERPRETATION
Yes.
The purpose of an obstacle (pedestal) is to make persons aware of the hazardous area. The
committee considers an obstacle of not less than 300 mm is obvious.
An obstacle is not required for the counterweight buffers where a screen is provided.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 15 Date of modification:
QUESTION
We understand that safety circuits containing electronic components are the only safety components
which do not need any marking: name of the manufacturer and type examination sign with its
references.
INTERPRETATION
Safety components containing electronic components obviously need means of tracing them to their
type examination certificate. This can easily be achieved with, e.g. manufacturer name and part
number.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-2 1998 8.2.2.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
For goods passenger lifts (8.2.2) the relation between the rated load and the maximum available car
area is given in Table 1.1.A.
On the other hand, 8.2.2.4 refers to 8.2.1 which requires the use of Table 1.1.
The requirements of 8.2.1, except the first line, shall be fulfilled …….
Is it correct?
INTERPRETATION
"8.2.2.4 The requirements of 8.2.1, except 2 sentence, shall be applied and, in addition, ..."
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-2 1998 10.3.6; 10.3.7 Date of modification:
QUESTION
1.3 g) states that the standard does not cover lifts with rated speed exceeding 1 m/s.
However, this standard being a harmonised standard, it is not allowed to deviate unless a "CE"
examination of the design certificate is provided from a Notified Body. See Lifts Directive 95/16/EC,
articles 8.2 iii; 8.2 v; etc.
The above clauses are therefore useless and more, dangerous because they are not sufficient to
design a lift with rated speed more than 1m/s.
Is it correct?
INTERPRETATION
Yes, this will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-2 1998 9.8.2.1 d) Date of modification:
QUESTION
For the balancing weight, an instantaneous safety gear is only allowed where the speed does not
exceed 0,63 m/s.
This is more stringent than for electric lifts on which instantaneous safety gear for counterweight or
balancing weight are allowed for speeds up to 1 m/s. See EN 81-1, 9.8.2.3.
Is it an error?
If not, what is the technical justification for such a more stringent requirement?
INTERPRETATION
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EN 81-2 1998 9.9.2.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Instantaneous type clamping devices other than of the captive roller type shall only be used if the
tripping speed of the rupture valve or the maximum speed of the restrictor/one way restrictor does not
exceed 0,8 m/s.
INTERPRETATION
Yes, this will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-2 1998 9.9.5.1; 9.9.5.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
The release of the clamping device shall not require the intervention of a competent person.
This is anyway one of the main differences between a safety gear and a clamping device!
Is it not better to take into account the text of the former standard EN 81-2, November 1987?
INTERPRETATION
9.9.5.1 The release of the clamping device shall only be possible by raising the car.
9.9.5.2 After its release, the clamping device shall be in a condition to operate normally.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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QUESTION
INTERPRETATION
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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QUESTION
Is it not better either to delete this sentence or to make this annex informative?
INTERPRETATION
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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QUESTION
Table J.2 addresses plain glass panels for use in horizontally sliding doors.
INTERPRETATION
No, hinged and sliding doors are not comparable in this respect.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 14.2.2.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
14.2.2.2 in EN 81-1:1985 and EN 81-2:1987 foresaw that when the entrances of the car are not
provided with plain doors, a stop switch should be available to passengers.
INTERPRETATION
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EN 81-2 1998 1.2; 1.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Although it is not mentioned in the scope of the hydraulic lifts, does the CEN/TC 10/WG1 recognize
and confirm that the limits for the EN 81-2 shall be read that the maximum allowable pressure is
≤ 500 bar and that the fluid is non-toxic?
As a background information if the pressure is > 500 bar, or if the fluid is toxic, a hydraulic lift may fall
under the Pressure Equipment Directive 97/23/EC with all the consequences of special Notified Bodies
which normally are not lift experts. Also the quality systems are different to that of the Lift Directive.
INTERPRETATION
CEN/TC 10/WG 1 recognises that the hydraulic system of a lift with a maximum allowed pressure
> 500 bar, or using toxic fluids falls under the Pressure Equipment Directive 97/23/EC.
WG 1 understands the expression "maximum allowable pressure" as the setting of the pressure relief
valve defined in 12.5.3.
The setting of the pressure relief valve of the hand pump defined in 12.9.2 shall not be taken into
consideration.
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EN 81-1 1998 10.4.3.2; 12.8 Date of modification:
QUESTION
10.4.3.2 considers the application of a slowdown monitoring device for speeds equal to or higher than
2,5 m/s. Speeds lower than 2,5 m/ are not considered.
12.8 defines the basic requirements for the slowdown monitoring. 12.8.2 states that the slowdown
monitoring shall guarantee that the striking speed of the car or the counterweight does not exceed that
for which the buffers were designed.
We have designed a slowdown monitoring device which guarantees that, in accordance with 12.8.2,
the striking speed never exceeds the striking speed for which the buffer is designed.
1. Is it permissible, on a lift with a nominal speed of e.g. 8 m/s, which should be equipped in
accordance with Annex L of EN 81-1 with a buffer stroke of minimum 1,44 m, to use a buffer with a
min. stroke of 0,54 m, if a slowdown monitoring device guarantees a maximum possible striking
speed of 4 m/s?
2. Is it permissible, on a lift with a nominal speed of ≤ 2,5 m/s to use a slowdown monitoring device,
and to reduce the minimum buffer stroke in accordance with the maximum possible striking speed,
not considering the min. value for the buffer stroke given in 10.4.3.2 a)?
INTERPRETATION
The possibilities of the two questions are not included in the standard EN 81-1.
The monitoring of the slowdown in combination with the reduced buffer stroke will be reconsidered at
the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 5.10 Date of modification:
QUESTION
"If there is a risk for persons working in the well being trapped and no means are provided to escape,
either through the car, or through the well, alarm devices shall be installed at places where this risk
exists."
By using a risk analysis we examined whether an alarm device in the pit is necessary or not.
− an alarm device is only necessary for the situation of maintenance being carried out alone by one
person combined with nobody in the building within audible reach,
− an alarm device can only be necessary if it is not possible to prevent the locking up (entrapment)
of maintenance personnel by technical means,
− if an alarm device is fixed to the underside of a car it will not be usable in all cases,
− if an alarm device is provided it shall not be possible to mix up the activating button of an alarm
device with the stop switch.
INTERPRETATION
No.
The decision whether the risk of entrapment exists depends on the individual conditions on site, and
has to be negotiated between the customer and the supplier (see EN 81-1/2, 0.2.5).
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EN 81-1 1998 9.10.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
This clause requires a more stringent demand about the retardation in upwards direction than in
downwards direction (because of the safety gear triggering) for the installation with rated speed less or
equal to 0,63 m/s.
In upwards direction: 1gn maximum
In downwards direction: no requirement for a maximum for instantaneous safety gear.
We believe it is an error because the risks generated by the retardation in downwards direction are
more important than those in upwards direction, in terms of gravity and overall of frequency.
If it is not an error, it must be installed using a progressive safety gear in an upwards direction whilst an
instantaneous safety gear in downwards direction is sufficient.
INTERPRETATION
It was the opinion of CEN/TC 10/WG 1 to limit the retardation in upwards direction to 1 gn.
The requirements of 9.10.3 cannot be fulfilled by the use of an instantaneous safety gear.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 6.2.2 b) Date of modification:
QUESTION
In this clause, the standard requires when the access to the machine room is done by means of a
ladder, it shall “be fastened to the access in such a way that they cannot be removed”.
Reading the wording "fastened to the access", several technical solutions can be envisaged (e.g.,
ladder sliding aside on a clamping bar, trap door with retractable ladder, etc.).
We understand the intention is to have the ladder in such a way that its use shall be exclusively for the
lift and that for any intervention by authorised persons, its localisation and its putting into use can be
done easily.
Where the access is close to a technical floor in a building, no particular issue may occur with this
requirement.
On the contrary, in many cases, when installing lifts in residential buildings, this requirement leads to
aesthetic as well practical restrictions; very often, tenants or renters cannot accept the ladder
permanently installed in the corridor leading to their home.
INTERPRETATION
The text of the standard can be understood that the ladder is fastened to the access, e.g. by means of
a chain or rope.
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EN 81-1 1998 9.6.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
According to 9.6.2 there shall be, for lifts with rated speed > 3,5 m/s, tensioned compensating ropes
with an anti-rebound device. This implies that for speed ≤ 3,5 m/s compensating means without
tensioning device may be used, e.g. chains.
For speeds > 2,5 m/s there is a risk that in case of safety gear tripping, quite an amount of slack rope
may occur due to the jumping counterweight, the ropes may hook up with the well installations and
cause high damage, even breakage of the suspension ropes.
In the American standard A 17.1 the limit is given also at 3,5 m/s however, the safety gear is usually
adjusted with a considerably lower retardation value than in EN 81-1. Because of this lower value of
retardation the counterweight jumps less and less slack rope will occur.
INTERPRETATION
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-2 1998 12.5.5.2; 12.5.6.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
12.5.5.2 and 12.5.6.2 of EN 81-2 (1998) require accessibility of the rupture-valve and restrictor for
adjustment and inspection.
If the rupture-valve or restrictor is not accessible directly from the pit-floor, accessibility shall be 'easy
and safe' with a ladder.
INTERPRETATION
There are no requirements in 12.5.5.2 and 12.5.6.2 for 'easy and safe accessibility'.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 5.7.2.2 (EN 81-2) Date of modification:
QUESTION
5.7.3.2 of EN 81-1 (1998), resp. 5.7.2.2 of EN 81-2 (1998) contain safety-requirements related to the
accessibility of the pit of the well.
If the floor of the pit cannot be accessed by a special door, the floor has to be accessible by stairs or a
ladder.
The ladder, if used, has to be reachable and useful, which often is a problem:
- clearance between the rungs and the wall of the well is too small,
INTERPRETATION
5.7.3.2, resp. 5.7.2.2 of the standard deliberately does not describe solutions.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 14.2.1.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
We are of the opinion that lifts foreseen with glass panels in cars and/or walls of the well introduce an
extra hazard in case the panels are cleaned by not lift-educated people. Mostly two people are
involved one on top of the cabin for positioning and one under or aside the car to clean the panels. We
think that with the introduction of glass panel lifts and glass panel wells in the new norm this hazard is
not fully recognised by the CEN/TC10/WG1 members or a hazard analyses is the base of the text in
the norm.
For this reason NL is asking for at least this type of lifts having a system that people in the pit or aside
the car be protected against involuntary movements of the car in case the lift is put on normal mode
after used on inspection mode and with that prevent the person in the pit or aside the car being
crushed by the car. The standpoint of the Dutch Safety Committee of lifts, including the Dutch Ministry
of Labour is for at least that those lifts are foreseen with a system based on technical solution and not
on procedure measures.
INTERPRETATION
EN 81-1/2 was written under the assumption that the car does not move with an authorized person in
the pit.
"There shall be in the pit a stopping device(s) accessible on opening the door(s) to the pit, and from
the pit floor, in conformity with the requirements of 14.2.2 and 15.7;"
This clause requires one stopping device accessible on opening the door to the pit, assuming that a
person entering the pit will activate it.
The solution in the question does not only deviate fundamentally from the basic assumptions of EN 81,
but also the solution itself is not satisfactory because it is not failed safe.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 13.1.1.2; 13.5.1.3; 13.5.3.6 Date of modification:
QUESTION
On a lift installation the sheath of the travelling cable H05W-H6F is removed in order to simplify the
installation from the well to the control in the machine room (flat cable).
The individual cores are placed, together with the other well installation, in a common ducting.
Some of the individual cores are used in circuits, which are switched off by the main switch and some
are not (car lighting, -sockets), there is no colour code used.
In accordance with EN 81-1/2, 13.5.3.6 the installation of conductors of different circuits is only
permitted in ductings, there is nothing said about trunking, as e.g. in 13.5.1.3.
13.1.1.1 states that the lift shall be considered as a whole, in the same way as a machine with its built
in electrical equipment. EN 60204-1 includes also lifts, as is stated in this standard. In accordance with
EN 60204-1, 14.1.3 these circuits have to be laid separately, or it has to be identifiably which circuits
remain live after switching off the main switch (colour code).
Question 2: Are the clauses EN 60204-1, 14.2 "Identification of conductors", and 11.3 "Programmable
equipment" valid also for lifts, as there is nothing mentioned in EN 81?
INTERPRETATION
Answer 1: It is permitted to remove the sheath if the requirements of EN 81-1/2, 13.5.3.6 are respected. The term
ducting includes trunking.
Answer 2: Concerning the "Identification of conductors" 14.2 of EN 60204-1 is commonly used. Identification of
every single wire, e.g. on a relay is not necessary as this is not safety relevant.
Concerning "Programmable equipment" 11.3 of EN 60204-1 is not valid for lifts. For safety relevant circuits in lifts
EN 81-1/2 prA1 is under preparation.
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QUESTION
In the English version of EN 81-1/2 however, Rm stands for "tensile strength" (Zugfestigkeit).
In the specialized literature for mechanical strength of materials, R m also stands for "tensile strength"
and in the stress-strain diagram it is defined as the highest point of the curve.
Is it correct that Rm is the highest point in the stress-strain diagram and is defined as "tensile strength"
(Zugfestigkeit)?
INTERPRETATION
Rm defines the highest point in the stress strain diagram and is defined as "tensile strength"
(Zugfestigkeit).
This will be taken into consideration in the German version at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 16.1.3; F.0.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
According to EN 81-1/2, 16.1.3, a copy of each relevant type examination certificate shall be provided
for every safety component. This is a lot of paper not adding any additional value to the owner
documentation.
The Lifts Directive 95/16/EC defines the instruction manual to be delivered for each safety component.
It also defines that the certificate shall be made available to the Commission, the Member States or to
Notified Bodies on request.
"The safety components referred to in Annex IV must be accompanied by an instruction manual drawn
up in an official language of the Member State of the lift installer or another Community language
acceptable to him, so that:
- assembly,
- connection,
- adjustment, and
- maintenance,
can be carried out effectively and without danger."
Does CEN/TC 10/WG 1 agree that 16.1.3 is not in the sense of the Lift Directive and therefore should
be deleted?
INTERPRETATION
16.1.3 refers to the technical dossier which is not information for the owner.
16.3 refers to the instruction manual delivered with the lift for the owner. Information relating to safety
components shall be given, either by copies of the type examination certificate or by a list of the safety
components used on the lift with information to identify them.
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QUESTION
The 450 kg lift proposed in EN 81-70 has the dimension of 1 000 mm x 1 250 mm. Together with the
sill area the total floor area exceeds in some cases (dependent on door design) the allowed maximum
value stated in EN 81-1/2 Table 1.1.
The size of the 450 kg lift has been chosen in order to allow the transport of an ISO-type wheelchair
with the dimension of 700 mm x 1 200 mm.
We assume that the rational of the requirements in EN 81-1/2 is, that a passenger lifts cannot be
overloaded by passenger because the defined floor area avoids access of more than the allowed
number of passengers.
− If this assumption is correct than it has to be avoided that more than the allowed number of
passengers can enter.
− It is allowed to have some spare area, as long it is smaller than the area required by a passenger.
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− The smallest area per passenger in EN 81-1/2 is 0,115 m .
It also has to be noted that EN 81-1/2 in 8.2.1 asks for an overload protection.
INTERPRETATION
No.
The means to determine the area and load is clearly defined in EN 81-1/2.
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EN 81-1 1998 10.5.3.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 81-1 § 10.5.3.1 makes a difference as for the actuation mode of final limit switches between
traction drive and drum drive lifts.
Final limit switches in the well are electric safety devices according to EN 81-1 § 14.1.2 and cut the
power to the machine according to EN 81-1 § 12.7.
The failure of these devices is not taken into consideration according to EN 81-1 § 0.3.5.
a) there cannot be breakdown of the link car – drum drive in the case of non stop of the machine at
upper landing, because:
calculations of the drive elements shall take into consideration the eventuality the car rests on
its buffers (EN 81-1 § 12.2.1)
the junction between rope and rope termination shall withstand at least 80 % of the minimum
breaking load of the rope (EN 81-1 § 9.2.3)
the combination of the requirements above is such that the safety factor for the link car –
drum drive is 12 x 80 % = 9,6;
b) protection against overloads ensured according to EN 81-1 § 13.3 does not allow that the traction
machine remains under permanent live tension, once the car has been stopped by the buffers
even if the final limit switches are whatever the reason, not operating. This avoids the machine
being destroyed;
c) there cannot be inversion of the car movement direction in the case of non stopping of the
machine at the lowest landing because:
the installation is provided with an electric safety device against ropes or chains slackening
according to EN 81-1 § 12.9
where the car rests on its buffers, it shall remain one turn and half in the drum grooves
(EN 81-1 § 9.4.2), which implies the actuation of the rope slackening contact specified above,
when the machine goes on unwinding the rope;
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e) when car strikes the buffer, the risk for passengers (in the sense of EN 81), the loads being
transported and the lift itself are not different for a traction drive as well for a drum drive lift.
For all those reasons, we think the final limit switches specified in § 10.5.3.1 can have the same
actuation mode, when installed on one or two speed lifts, traction drive as well drum drive lifts.
INTERPRETATION
No.
The proposed interpretation leads to a fundamental change of the standard EN 81-1 for positive drive
lifts. This can only be considered, based on a risk assessment, for the next revision of the standard.
In this instance it does not indicate the standard will be changed in this regard.
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QUESTION
Question 1: In the standard, N.2.1, Table N.1 was formatted horizontally in two parts as follows: the upper part
relevant to V grooves, the lower part for undercut U grooves; an appendix under the table giving the value of
Nequiv(t) in the case of U groove without any undercut.
This Table N.1 had been modified through EN 81-1:1998/AC: September 1999 corrigendum as follows: the upper
part unchanged, the lower part covering undercut U- or V- grooves; as for the appendix this one was not changed.
Therefore the corrigendum shows now a difference between undercut V grooves and non undercut V grooves.
This difference did not appear in the first edition of the standard.
This difference does not seem justified. Indeed, the specific pressure in an undercut V groove (non hardened) will
diminish with wear whilst the specific pressure in a non undercut V groove (but hardened) will remain constant.
Therefore we believe Table N.1 should read as follows: the upper part for all V groove types (with or without
undercut), the lower part relevant to undercut U grooves, the appendix remaining unchanged.
Is our interpretation correct?
Question 2: The same table gives particular values for the equivalent number of traction sheave Nequiv(t) in relation
with precise values of angles (β) or (γ), accordingly.
The absence of the formula given in the standard, which led to the writing of the values set up in this table, does
not allow to determine without error/risk the value of Nequiv(t), where the angle (β) or (γ), accordingly, does not
correspond to one of those mentioned in the table.
We believe a graphic determination of Nequiv(t), as precise as possible, from the data given in Table N. 1 may
permit to get the conformity when designing the installation.
Is our interpretation correct?
INTERPRETATION
Question 1: No.
With non-hardened V grooves it is difficult to predict how fast and how deep the wear will be. Therefore, the less
favourable value between the new V groove, and the worn-in semi-circular groove with undercut, i.e. the higher of
the two values of Table N.1 shall be taken.
Question 2: Yes.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 5.7.3.3 b) 2) (EN 81-1)
Date of modification:
5.7.2.3 b) 2) (EN 81-2)
QUESTION
"The free vertical distance between the bottom of the pit and the lowest parts of the car, shall be at
least 0,50 m. This distance may be reduced to a minimum of 0,10 m within a horizontal distance of
0,15 m between:
1) apron or parts of the vertically sliding car door(s) and the adjacent wall(s);
INTERPRETATION
The formulation in EN 81-1, 5.7.3.3 b) and EN 81-2, 5.7.2.3 b) is not very clear and can lead to
different interpretations. For the apron the understanding is clarified in Interpretation No. 157. For
those parts of the car which are arranged near to the guide rails (e.g. guide shoes, safety gears, pawl
devices) there is a risk of crushing if the horizontal extension of these parts is more than a certain
value, e.g. 0,15 m. See Annex A.
The previous versions of EN 81-1/2 did not include a limitation of the horizontal extension of these
parts. The state of the art is that some of these parts have larger horizontal extensions than 0,15 m.
However, no serious or fatal accidents had been reported due to this fact. For that reason the group of
experts are of the opinion that the following rule is acceptable:
Safety gears, guide shoes and pawl devices have to be arranged within a horizontal area around the
guide rails as shown in Annex B. All other parts of the car except the apron or parts of the vertically
sliding car door(s) shall have a minimum vertical distance of 0,5 m.
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Dimensions in cm
Key
1 apron, parts of vertically sliding doors
2 car sling
3 pedestal with fully compressed buffer
4 safety gear, clamping device, pawl device
5 guide shoe, rollers
6 wall of the well
Figure 1
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2 horizontal distance XH in m
Figure 3 — Min. vertical distances for safety gear, guide shoe and pawl device
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EN 81-1/2 1998 14.1.2.1.3; 14.1.2.3.3; F.6 Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 81-1/2, 14.1.2.1.3 states "… Connections to different points of the electric safety chain are only
permitted for gathering information. The devices used for that purpose shall fulfil the requirements for
safety circuits according to 14.1.2.3."
In 14.1.2.3.3 it is written "Safety circuits containing electronic components are regarded as safety
components and shall be verified according to the requirements in F.6."
INTERPRETATION
F.6 is the procedure for testing of electric safety circuits containing electronic components.
The devices connected to different points of the electric safety chain are not considered as safety
devices. Therefore, F.6 need not be applied. The devices shall be designed taking into account the
rules as defined in 14.1.1 and Annex H.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 8.17.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 81-1/2, 8.17.4 requires "an automatically rechargeable supply of the lighting of the car, which is
capable of feeding at least a 1 W lamp for 1 h in case of interruption of normal lighting supply'', but
does not give any indication about the intensity of the lighting.
- tranquilization of passengers.
The lamp may be placed inside a translucent alarm-button, in which case the alarm always can be
recognized".
Should not all-modern lift car-designs appear with emergency illumination with such intensity, that
alarm-buttons, telephones and connecting information are distinguishable?
INTERPRETATION
EN 81-1/2, 8.17.4, last sentence needs an extension and shall read as follows:
The intention is to have the emergency lighting come on automatically upon failure of the normal
lighting supply and with an intensity of at least 1 lux at the emergency alarm device (alarm button and
instructions, if any).
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EN 81-1/2 1998 6.3.6 Date of modification:
QUESTION
6.3.6 of EN 81-1 and EN 81-2 asks for "permanently installed electric lighting on the basis of at least
200 lux at floor level". Does it mean that such intensity of illumination must be available on the entire
floor surface of the machine room?
We think that this level of illumination has to be provided only on floor areas where the worker can
work and move (working areas and movement areas).
INTERPRETATION
This level of illumination in the machine room has to be provided everywhere a person can stand,
work, and/or move between working areas.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 5.9 Date of modification:
QUESTION
5.9 of EN 81-1 and EN 81-2 asks for "permanently installed electric lighting, giving an intensity of
illumination of at least 50 lux, 1 m above the car roof and the pit floor, even when all doors are closed."
INTERPRETATION
- on the car roof, 1 m above the car roof, within its vertical projection, and
- 1 m above the pit floor everywhere a person can stand, work, and/or move between working
areas.
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QUESTION
Two independent contactors interrupt the current to the lift motor (which is controlled by static
elements, e.g. a frequency converter).
The function-check of the two main contactors (falling off after a normal ride) is often performed by a(n)
(electronic) processor-entrance.
There are two normally closed contacts of the main contactors connected in series to the processor-
entrance.
If yes, should this monitoring device cause an immediate standstill / blocking of the elevator in case the
processor-entrance (which performs the function-check of the main contactors) does not function
anymore as a result of a failure?
INTERPRETATION
A failure of the processor entrance by itself cannot lead to a dangerous situation. A failure shall be
detected at the latest at the next change in direction of motion and prevent any further movement of
the lift.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 3; 14.1.2.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Does 14.1.2.4 also imply that relay contactors may be considered as equipment directly controlling the supply to
the machine for starting and stopping, if they are used at the end of a "sub-safety-chain" in order to avoid too
much voltage drop, e.g. when containing the door contacts?
Background
Depending on the height of a building and the number of floors, a considerable amount of voltage drop can occur
in the safety chain. This is especially due to the many landing door contacts. A separate "sub-safety-chain" for
these landing door contacts would solve this problem.
In EN 81-1/2, 3 the definition of "electric safety chain" reads: "The total of the electric safety devices connected in
series."
EN 81-1, 14.1.2.4 reads: "When operating to ensure safety, an electric safety device shall prevent the setting in
motion of the machine or initiate immediately its stopping. The electric supply to the brake shall likewise be
broken.
The electric safety devices shall act directly on the equipment controlling the supply to the machine in accordance
with the requirements of 12.7.
If, because of the power to be transmitted, relay contactors are used to control the machine, these shall be
considered as equipment directly controlling the supply to the machine for starting and stopping."
Other major codes, such as the harmonized Canadian/American code A17.1-2000 allow this solution.
The risk analysis shows no additional risks, provided:
the off-position of the relay at the end of the landing door "sub-safety-chain" is monitored;
the relay fulfils the respective requirements of EN 81-1/2, 13.2.1;
The "sub-safety-chain" fulfils the same requirements as the main electric safety-chain.
INTERPRETATION
Following the same philosophy as for power transmitting, 14.1.2.4, relay contactors may be used representing all
landing door closed contacts / door lock contacts ("sub-chain") in the "main" safety chain, provided that:
two relay-contactors are used at the end of each separate "sub-chain", and
the off-position of these relays is monitored (Note 14.1.2.3), and
a normally open contact of both relays is wired in series in the "main" electric safety chain, and
The relays fulfil the respective requirements of EN 81-1/2, 13.2.1. (Relay-contactors, 13.2.1.2, can operate
the main contactors, 13.2.1.1, but they are not intended to control directly the supply to the machine).
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EN 81-2 1998 12.12.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Requirement 12.12.4:
The motor run-time limiter, even tripped, shall not prevent the inspection operation (14.2.1.3) and the
electrical anti-creep system (14.2.1.5 a) and b)).
Some manufacturers design lifts where the inspection-operation and/or the electrical anti-creep system
(is) are out of service after tripping of the motor run-time limiter.
INTERPRETATION
In 12.12.4 it is specified that after tripping of the motor run-time limiter, the inspection operation
according to 14.2.1.3, and the electrical anti-creep system according to 14.2.1.5 a) and b) shall not be
prevented.
To keep the inspection operation effective is essential to avoid trapping of maintenance persons. Even
if the motor doesn’t rotate and/or the car doesn’t move in up direction, at least the car can be moved in
the down direction.
Keeping the relevelling according to 14.2.1.5 a) effective has no benefit if the motor doesn’t rotate
and/or the car doesn’t move. Instead of heating up the motor and the oil until the motor protection
reacts, it would be better to immediately dispatch the car to the lowest landing following 14.2.1.5 b).
The influence of the run time limiter on the relevelling will be taken into consideration at the next
revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1 1998 9.8.1.1; 9.8.1.2; 9.8.8; 9.9.11.1; 9.10.1; 9.10.4;
9.10.5 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Attention! To make this interpretation easier readable, wording in clauses not to the point have been deleted;
wording for clarification has been added in 'Italic'.
9.8.1.1 The car shall be provided with a safety-gear capable of operating in the downward direction and
capable of stopping a car carrying the rated load, at the tripping-speed of the overspeed-governor, even if the
suspension devices break, by gripping the guide-rails and of holding the car there.
9.8.1.2 In the case of accessible spaces below the car, the counterweight or the balancing-weight might also
be equipped with a safety-gear, operating only on a downward moving of the weight, capable of stopping it, at
the tripping-speed of the overspeed-governor, by gripping the guide-rails, and of holding the weight there.
9.8.8 When the car safety-gear is engaged, an electric safety device, mounted on the car shall initiate the
stopping of the machine before or at the moment of safety-gear operation.
9.9.11.1 The overspeed-governor shall, by means of an electric safety-device, initiate the stopping of the lift-
machine before the car-speed, either up or down reaches the tripping speed of the governor.
9.10.1 A traction-drive lift shall be provided with ascending car overspeed protection-means, comprising
speed monitoring-elements (1) and speed reducing-elements (2), which shall detect uncontrolled movement of
the ascending car and shall cause the car to stop, or at least reduce its speed.
(1) Overspeed-governor (in this case, see 9.10.4);
INTERPRETATION
Yes, in this example the electric safety device shall be fitted to the counterweight overspeed governor or to the
counterweight safety gear.
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EN 81-2 1998 9.10.3.2 Date of modification:
Key-word(s):
Replacing interpretation No.:
Tripping the safety gear by the breakage of the suspension means,
test
QUESTION
Test tripping of the safety gear by breakage of the suspension means shall, in accordance with
9.10.3.2, be possible from outside the well. In Annex D no further requirements for the process of the
test are given.
Is it correct in the sense of EN 81-2 to define for the test of the devices, the following minimum
requirements?
2. The device for establishing slack rope and for tripping shall be installed in the well outside the
travel path of the car.
3. Tripping can be made with the help of a pulling device leading to an area outside of the well.
4. The pulling device can lead through the door gap of a landing door.
5. The person preparing and carrying out the test shall not be in danger during the test. The
necessary tripping force shall not be more than 400 N.
6. The reset of the device for establishing slack rope shall be possible without entering the well.
INTERPRETATION
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EN 81-2 1998 10.3.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
The requirement to maintain the car stationary at a distance not exceeding 0,12 m below the level of
the lowest landing, when carrying the rated load, from our point of view is not understandable, and is
not necessary. With regard to traction lifts there is no comparable requirement.
The only similar requirement is in 9.11 for pawl devices. In accordance with 9.11.3 the pawl device
shall prevent the car sinking below the landing level by more than 0,12 m, and to stop the car at the
lower end of the unlocking zone. At the lowest landing the pawl device could be abandoned, if the
buffer can comply with this requirement.
INTERPRETATION
Yes.
10.3.3 will be re-considered at the next revision of the standard, taking into account the electric anti-
creep system, 14.2.1.5 b).
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QUESTION
In accordance with EN 81-2 emergency electrical control is not intended. Since it is still often used on
hydraulic lifts the question arises time and again, to which requirements it has to comply.
In our view the requirement of EN 81-1, 14.2.1.4 can be taken over with the following modifications:
c) the emergency electrical operation switch shall render inoperative by itself or through another
electric switch in conformity with 14.1.2 the following electric safety devices:
1. those mounted on the safety gear, according to 9.8.8;
2. those of the overspeed governor, according to 9.10.2.10.1 and 9.10.2.10.2;
3. those mounted on the buffers, according to 10.4.3.3;
4. final limit switches, according to 10.5, as well as
5. those monitoring slack rope (or chain), according to 12.13, and
the electric devices
1. mounted on the clamping device, according to 9.9.8, and
2. mounted on the pawl device, according to 9.11.9 and 9.11.10.
Does CEN/TC 10/WG 1 share our opinion?
INTERPRETATION
The question whether an emergency electrical control is permitted, in addition to the requirements for
the emergency operation in accordance with 12.9, got a positive answer in interpretation No. 267.
The proposed addition will be considered at the next revision of the standard.
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9.10.2.2 (EN 81-2) Date of modification
Key-word(s)
Replacing interpretation No.
Overspeed governor; very heavy rated load; very low speed
QUESTION
"For lifts with very heavy rated loads and low rated speeds, the overspeed governor shall be specially
designed for this purpose.
NOTE It is recommended to choose a tripping speed as close as possible to the lower limit indicated in 9.9.1
(9.10.2.1 in EN 81-2)."
We are of the opinion that the overspeed governor should follow the requirements of 9.9.1 (9.10.2.1
in EN 81-2) independent of the rated load, and therefore 9.9.2 (9.10.2.2 in EN 81-2) should be
deleted.
We think that 9.9.1 should be amended to include the particular case of very low speed.
INTERPRETATION
The requirements for governor are defined in 9.9.1 (9.10.2.1 in EN 81-2); therefore 9.2.2 (9.10.2.2 in
EN 81-2) is obsolete and is proposed for deletion at the next revision of the standards.
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EN 81-1 1998 12.4.2.1; D.2 d) Date of modification:
QUESTION
What shall be demonstrated with the test of the brake of an electric lift?
INTERPRETATION
The test of the braking system according to D.2 d) shall demonstrate that the brake on its own (with the
application of both sets) is capable of stopping the machine when the car is travelling downward at
rated speed and with the rated load plus 25 %. In these conditions the retardation of the car shall not
exceed that resulting from operation of the safety gear or stopping on the buffer.
Additionally it has to be verified by practical tests or calculation that where only one set of the brake is
applied a sufficient braking effort is exerted by each set to slow down the car, travelling downward at
rated speed and with rated load (see 12.4.2.1).
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EN 81-1/2 1998 9.1.2; 9.10.6 (EN 81-2) Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 81-1/2 defines in 9.1.2 the tensile strength of the wires of suspension ropes. In the meantime,
CEN/TC 168/WG 2 has finalized EN 12385-5:2002, “Stranded ropes for lifts” which includes additional
rope grades (1180/1770 and 1570/1770) for dual tensile ropes, which are not covered by EN 81-1/2.
EN 81-1/2, 9.1.2 should be modified at the next revision to be in line with EN 12385-5.
Additionally a reference to EN 12385-5 should be added in 9.1.2 c) for the other rope characteristics
and in 9.6.1 for compensation ropes and in 9.9.6.1 for overspeed governor ropes.
INTERPRETATION
The additional dual tensile ropes can be considered to have an equivalent safety level as the single
and dual tensile ropes specified in EN 81-1/2.
The proposed modifications will be taken up at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 14.2.3.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
In English, however, the requirements of 14.2.3.3 does not preclude the provision of a voice actuated
half duplex system where the user and receiver are free to speak at will, once communications are
established (no further need to operate any buttons or controls).
Note the current draft of prEN 81-28 would appear to support the UK view.
INTERPRETATION
The requirements for the "Two-way voice communication" regarding remote alarm are now defined in
EN 81-28:2003 "Remote alarm on passenger and goods passenger lifts" (See also Interpretation 579).
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EN 81-1/2 1998 13.6.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
It is stated in 13.6.1 that the electric lighting supplies to the car, the well and the machine and pulley
rooms shall be independent of the supply to the machine, etc.
One supplier of elevators in Denmark has chosen to supply electric power to the lift through one single
power cable. In order to perform special personal protection of the cable itself, and the lift machine, a
so-called PFI-relay is mounted in the power box, where the cable is connected to building power. The
PFI-relay will switch the power off in case of unwanted and dangerous drain from a live connection to
earth of at least 300 mA.
The cable is divided into two separate circuits in the machine room or in the control cabinet. One part
goes through a main switch to the lift machine, another goes via a HPFI-relay to the lighting of the
machine room, the well, the car, socket outlets, the control system, etc.. The HPFI-relay will interrupt
the supply in case of drain from a live connection to earth of at least 30 mA.
A drain to earth failure in the power circuit will cut all power to both systems, i.e. the lift machine as well
as the lighting will be cut off.
Our question is as follows: Is the intention laid down in 13.6.1 fulfilled by this connection method or
not?
INTERPRETATION
No.
13.6.1 calls for separate circuits for power and light. The principle is to prevent interruption of the light
in case of loss of power downstream the lift main switch.
Therefore, interruption of the lighting circuit inside the lift installation is not to occur due to tripping of a
device provided specifically to protect the lift machine.
However, the questioned connection method comprises elements outside, and inside the scope of the
standard, namely the 300 mA relay. It is not in line with the intention of the standard but due to 13.1.1.1
it cannot be forbidden.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 10.4.1.2.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
“The term “fully compressed”, mentioned in 5.7.1.1, 5.7.1.2, 5.7.2.2, 5.7.2.3 and 5.7.3.3 means a
compression of 90 % of the installed buffer height.“
Due to the fixation method of some buffer types it is in practice not possible to compress the buffers
90 % of the buffer height HP.
Figure 4
EXAMPLE With a buffer height of HP = 100 mm, the fixing metal nut is 15 mm already, the head of the fixing
bolt and the washer add another 10 mm, and therefore a 90 % compression of HP is impossible.
INTERPRETATION
The term “fully compressed” means a compression of 90 % of the installed compressible buffer height,
excluding any solid fixation means.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 a) (EN 81-1);
Date of modification:
5.7.1.1 d); 5.7.2.3 a)
(EN 81-2)
Key-word(s): Replacing interpretation No.:
Pit; headroom; rectangular block
QUESTION
EN 81-1/2 state in 5.7.1.1 d) (and also 5.7.2.2 c) in EN 81-1) for the headroom:
"There shall be above the car sufficient space to accommodate a rectangular block not less than
0,50 m x 0,60 m x 0,80 m resting on one of its faces."
"There shall be in the pit sufficient space to accommodate a rectangular block not less than 0,50 m x
0,60 m x 1,0 m resting on one of its faces."
Question 2: Why are the dimensions different for pit and headroom?
INTERPRETATION
Answer to question 1: It is not intended to provide within the rectangular block sufficient space for
one person. But together with the requirements in EN 81-1/2 in 5.7.1.1 b) and c) and 5.7.2.2 a) and b)
in EN 81-1, as well as in 5.7.3.3 b) and c) for EN 81-1 and 5.7.2.3 b), c), d) and e) for EN 81-2 the
available safety spaces are sufficient. This is also shown by available accident records.
Answer to question 2: The effective available safety space is the result of a combination of
requirements. In the headroom it is the rectangular block 0,50 m x 0,60 m x 0,80 m together with the
minimum vertical distance of 1 m above standing areas. In the pit it is the rectangular block
0,50 m x 0,60 m x 1,0 m together with the minimum vertical distance of 0,5 m. Both combinations lead
to sufficient safety space.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 6.1.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
"Diverter pulleys may be installed in the headroom of the well provided that they are located outside
the projection of the car roof and that examinations and tests and maintenance operations can be
carried out in complete safety from the car roof or from outside the well."
Considering the pulleys are protected against bodily injury according to 9.7.1, and the supports are
designed in good engineering practice, the requirements in EN 81-1 and
EN 81-2:1998 version are no longer justified if adequate spaces in line with interpretation No. 565 are
provided.
What more precautions are required to install pulleys in the headroom inside the projection of the car?
INTERPRETATION
The risks from diverter pulleys which are arranged in the headroom outside or within the projection of
the car roof are similar. For that reason diverter pulleys within the projection of the car roof can be
accepted with the following measures:
a) protection means according to 9.7 in EN 81-1 and 9.4 in EN 81-2;
b) Retaining devices to prevent diverter pulleys from falling in the event of a mechanical failure.
The devices shall be able to support the weight of the pulley and the suspended loads;
c) examinations and tests and maintenance operations can be carried out in complete safety
from the car roof or from outside the well;
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 5.3.1.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
5.3.1.2 reads, "Glass-panels, plane or formed, placed at points 'normally accessible to persons' shall
be made of laminated glass".
Does 'normally accessible to persons' mean 'accessibility from both sides (in general from outside; in
special case from inside the well by authorised persons)?
If yes, will falling through a wall of glass-panels be prevented when accessing the car-roof by persons
with:
INTERPRETATION
The requirements concerning the mechanical strength will be reconsidered at the next revision of the
standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 5.6.1; 5.6.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
5.6.1 and 5.6.2 of EN 81-1/2 require a separation screen for the counterweight of any lift, and a
separation screen in the pit and/or full height of the well for lifts located in a common well.
5.6.1 requires a rigid screen; 5.6.2 does not say anything on that point.
Which mechanical strength shall be taken into account for each of these screens? Shall we address a
mechanical strength equal to the one for walls of the well as defined in 5.3.1.1?
We believe that the aim of the rigid screen in 5.6.1 is to prevent involuntary access by a person in the
pit, under the travel path of the counterweight. Therefore, no mechanical strength is required.
We believe that the same applies to the separation screen in the pit and/or full height of the well: to
prevent access from one pit to the adjacent one, hitting by a moving part of the adjacent lift and/or falling
of objects from one side of the well to the other. Therefore, no mechanical strength is required.
Is our interpretation correct?
INTERPRETATION
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EN 81-1/2 1998 6.3; 6.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
For maintenance and inspection purposes it is necessary to initiate travels of the car with normal
operation control from the machine room.
We believe there should be means in the machine room to initiate a normal travel of the car.
Question 1: Does CEN/TC 10/WG 1 agree to add a requirement in 6.3 for such means in the machine
room?
Question 2: Does CEN/TC 10/WG 1 agree to add a requirement in 6.4 for such means also in the
pulley room?
INTERPRETATION
However, question 1 and 2 are not safety issues and therefore no requirement shall be added in
EN 81-1/2.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 14.2.1.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 81-1/2 requires in 14.2.1.3 a control station on the car roof for inspection control:
"To facilitate inspection and maintenance, a readily accessible control station shall be provided on the
car roof. This device shall be brought into operation by a switch (inspection operation switch) which
shall satisfy the requirements for electric safety devices (14.1.2)."
"The movement of the car shall be dependent on a constant pressure on a push-button protected
against accidental operation and with the direction of movement clearly indicated."
We are of the opinion that the protection against accidental operation should be realised by having two
buttons pressed at the same time.
We are of the opinion that the car should be stopped in its upward movement in inspection operation
leaving a clear vertical distance of 1,8 m above the standing area on the car roof.
INTERPRETATION
EN 81-1/2 requires protection from accidental operation of the buttons. However, EN 81-/2 has no
particular requirements for mechanical design of the buttons but does also provide a stopping device
that can be used in the event of any accidental movement.
Introducing redundancy in the button operation could further reduce the risk of accidental movement
and would also reduce the risk of an unintended movement due to buttons remaining stuck.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
WG 1 does not consider it necessary to add a minimum stopping distance for the inspection operation
in the upward direction at this time. The issue of safety spaces will be reconsidered at the next revision
(see also interpretation 565).
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EN 81-1/2 1998 8.13.3; 8.13.3.2; 8.13.4 Date of modification :
QUESTION
In EN 81-1, 8.13.3 states “The car roof shall be provided with a balustrade where the free distance in a
horizontal plane, beyond and perpendicular to its outer edge exceeds 0,3 m.”
8.13.3.2 states “Considering the free distance in a horizontal plane beyond the outer edge of the
handrail of the balustrade, its height shall be at least:
8.13.4 states “In case of a balustrade, a warning sign or a notice about the danger of leaning over the
balustrade shall be fixed to it, where appropriate.”
Question: 0,7 m is not sufficiently high to prevent persons from falling over the top of the rail as in
many cases it is below the centre of gravity of the human body. Is this when a warning sign according
to 8.13.4 should be provided?
We do not consider any balustrade below 900 mm as being adequate to prevent falling and believe
this should be addressed at the next revision of the standard.
Does WG 1 agree?
INTERPRETATION
No, the warning sign has to be fixed independently of the balustrade height.
In the last revision of EN 81-1/2 the requirements concerning the height of the balustrade have been
adopted on the basis of a risk assessment. Within this risk assessment the following assumptions have
been made:
The persons, which have access to the car roof, are trained and instructed servicemen and inspectors.
The wall within a distance of 0,85 m will prevent a person from falling over a balustrade of 0,7 m of
height, as the person will be able to reach the wall and support himself with his hands on the wall.
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QUESTION
"The car roof shall be provided with a balustrade where the free distance in a horizontal plane, beyond
and perpendicular to its outer edge exceeds 0,30 m.
The free distances shall be measured to the wall of the well allowing a larger distance in recesses, the
width or height of which is less than 0,30 m."
Taking into consideration the previous requirement, we understand that the standard doesn't require
the installation of a balustrade if a roped indirect hydraulic lift presents horizontal distances between
the jack and the ropes, or between the ropes, such as to prevent falling from the roof of the car. Our
interpretation is that this is achieved when the previous horizontal distances are less than 0,30 m, as
stated in 8.13.3 and the balustrade is not installed for the part of the edge of the car roof that is in front
of the jack and of the ropes.
INTERPRETATION
Yes.
The requirement of 8.13.3 is applicable for those free distances between car roof and wall of the well in
which no other lift components are located which can prevent the risk of falling. The protection against
falling is given if it is not possible to place a horizontal circle 300 mm diameter between the outer edge
of the car roof and the relevant component(s).
The deflection of this component under a horizontal force of 300 N shall be taken into account.
The protection has to be available in all positions of the car roof at least with the same height above
the car roof as the height of the balustrade.
Additionally, the distance between the outer edge of the car roof and the wall shall not exceed 0,85 m.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 7.2.3.1; 8.6.7.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
The mechanical strength of landing doors, and car doors required in 7.2.3.1, and 8.6.7.1 is defined with
2
300 N, being evenly distributed over an area of 5 cm in round or square section, applied at right
angles to the panel at any point, the door shall:
INTERPRETATION
1. For static forces: 300 N is a value commonly accepted as typical force, which can be normally
exerted by a person during normal use of the lift.
This can be considered as adequate for the intended purpose, which is limiting deflection.
2. For dynamic Forces: EN 81 does not give a particular specification concerning dynamic forces
2
However, 300 N on “small” (5 cm ) area at each guiding point could be estimated as a force similar to
that resulting from 1200 N applied in the centre of the panel (assuming 4 guiding points)
EN 81 also gives indication for the doors to withstand a force of 1 000 N resulting from impact
(assumption 0.3.9).
WG1 is of the opinion that the following is adequate even when the use of trolleys is considered:
By analogy with the detailed requirements related to the static force (300 N):
- The 1 000 N is applied “at any place” on the door panels,
- The 1 000 N force is applied on an area of maximum 100 mm x 100 mm (which reasonably
reflects the impact area of a body),
- The application of the 1 000 N force:
Does not result in loss of integrity of the door
Does not affect the safety function of the door
Allows the free movement of the panels
This will be reconsidered at the next revision of the standard. More detailed specification of door
integrity after impact will also have to be considered.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 7.2.3.1; 8.3.2.1; 8.6.7.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
The mechanical strength of landing doors, car walls, and car doors required in 7.2.3.1, 8.3.2.1 and
2
8.6.7.1 is defined with 300 N, being evenly distributed over an area of 5 cm in round or square
section, applied at right angles to the panel or wall at any point, the door or wall shall:
c) During and after such a test the safety function of the door shall not be affected.
Are the requirements sufficient or adequate for the glass doors, e.g. should not detection of broken
glass be addressed?
INTERPRETATION
In addition to the requirements concerning the mechanical strength 7.2.3.1, 8.6.7.1, glass doors and
car panels shall:
- Be submitted to soft and hard pendulum tests (Annex J), or inscribed in limitations of
dimensions and material criteria (Annex J)
The requirements related to the strength of the door are considered as adequate. The criteria in Annex
J permitting the omission of the pendulum tests and requiring specific type of glass could be
reconsidered at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 7.5.2.1.1.1; 7.5.2.1.1.2;
8.7.2.1.1.1; 8.7.2.1.1.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
For horizontally sliding doors, automatic power operated, the requirements are stated in 7.5.2.1.1.1,
7.5.2.1.1.2 for landing doors, and in 8.7.2.1.1.1 and 8.7.2.1.1.2 for car doors:
"The effort needed to prevent the door closing shall not exceed 150 N. This measurement shall not be
made in the first third of the travel of the door.
The kinetic energy of the landing door and the mechanical elements which are rigidly connected to it,
calculated or measured at the average closing speed shall not exceed 10 J."
Forces, speed, kinetic energy values seem to be there for historical reasons without real scientific
background. They are not adequate and difficult to comply with.
Does CEN/TC 10/WG 1 share this opinion? If yes, what should be the values? What should be the
means for verification?
INTERPRETATION
The current values for the closing force and the kinetic energy have been a compromise to realize an
acceptable door dynamic even with limited force and calculated kinetic energy reacting on an obstacle
or a body. There is no particular difficulty to comply taking into account that the kinetic energy is
calculated on an average speed of the door.
Accident statistics show that the residual risk results in few serious injuries mainly with elderly persons.
Door protection systems according to today's state of the art can prevent a door impacting an obstacle
or a human body (see also EN 81-70, 5.2.4). Doors not being equipped with such protection should be
limited to lower kinetic energies, e.g. 4 J.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard including an adequate
definition of safety class of the protective device.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 7.7.3.2 Date of modification :
QUESTION
"In the case of landing doors driven by the car door, a device (either weight or springs) shall ensure the
automatic closing of the landing door if this door becomes open, for whatever reason, when the car is
outside the unlocking zone."
INTERPRETATION
The existing text can be understood as meaning that closing of the door is sufficient even if the door
remains unlocked.
th
It is proposed, for the next revision of the standard to amend 4 § of 7.7.3.2 of EN 81-1/2 to read:
In the case of landing doors driven by the car door, if the landing door becomes open for whatever
reason when the car is outside the unlocking zone, a device (either weight or springs) shall ensure the
automatic closing and locking of the landing door.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 8.7.2.1.1.3 Date of modification :
QUESTION
"A protective device shall automatically initiate re-opening of the door in the event of a person being
struck, or about to be struck, by the door in crossing the entrance during the closing movement."
The formulation “initiate re-opening” leads to understand that the re-opening of the door would be
complete. In some cases, partial re-opening or even stopping of the movement is sufficient.
INTERPRETATION
It does not imply that the door must open fully, but “some” reopening must occur.
The objective is that sufficient opening is provided to prevent a person/object to be trapped by the
door.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 12.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Level differences between car/landing sills (stopping accuracy) can cause stumbling.
We think EN 81-1/2 should address this risk. This is further requested as ESR of the Machinery
Directive relevant to lift directive.
INTERPRETATION
That risk is addressed by EN 81-70 "Accessibility to lifts for persons including persons with disability":
This risk applies generally to all passengers who are likely to travel using lifts under “EN 81-1/2”;
therefore, this requirement of EN 81-70 should apply for all passenger lifts.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 14.2.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Due to the publication of EN 81-28:2003 relating to remote alarm on passenger and goods passenger
lifts, should 14.2.3 of EN 81-1:1998 and EN 81-2:1998 not be modified as follows?
An intercom system, or similar device, powered by the emergency supply referred to in 8.17.4, shall be
installed between inside the car and the machine room if the lift travel exceeds 30 m."
INTERPRETATION
Yes, EN 81-28:2003 supersedes 14.2.3 of EN 81-1 and EN 81-2 with regard to alarm systems.
EN 81-1 and EN 81-2, 14.2.3, will be modified accordingly at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1 1998 10.3.4; 10.3.6 Date of modification:
Key-word(s):
Replacing interpretation No.:
Energy accumulation type buffers with non-linear characteristics and
with buffered return movement
QUESTION
1) According to 10.3.4 and 10.3.6 energy accumulation type buffers with linear or non-linear
characteristics and with buffered return movement are covered by the standard for use up to
1,6 m/s. Is our understanding correct?
2) In EN 81-1, in 10.3.4, it is written, that energy accumulation type buffers with buffered return
movement can be used for lifts with rated speed up to 1, 6 m/s. 10.4.1.2.1 c) and 10.4.2
specifies the rising speed up to 1 m/s. These requirements will be fulfilled in many cases by
using polyurethane buffers. Are the requirements in F.5.3.1.1.1 to apply only for springs or in
combination with F.5.3.1.1.2 for all types of buffers with energy accumulation and buffered
return movement?
3) Test with energy accumulation type buffers with non-linear characteristics for rated speed up
to 1,6 m/s have shown, that maximum decelerations higher than 10 g can occur as a peak
less than 0,04 s and average deceleration less than 1 g. The standard does not define a limit
for peak deceleration or peak average but only for the duration of the peak.
F.5 should be modified. Due to the peak values it should be clarified what is the maximum
influence to a human body or to the mechanical construction of the lift e.g. buffer stand(s).
INTERPRETATION
Question 1.
No. Buffers with non-linear characteristics are only covered by the standard for speeds not exceeding
1,00 m/s.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 16.3; 16.3.2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
References were published in the OJEC to EN 13015 "Maintenance for lifts and escalators - Rules for
maintenance instructions". As a result of that following EN 13015 forms one means of complying with
ESR § 6, Annex I from the LD.
On the other hand EN 81-1 and 2 already gave requirements for maintenance instructions in 16.3. As a
result of that one may conclude that complying with EN 81-1/2 forms an alternative means of
complying with that ESR.
Question A: Which standard can or shall be followed in order to earn "presumption of conformity" with
the ESR's of the Lifts Directive?
Question B: Shouldn't the following requirement be added at the end of 16.3.2: "The instruction
manual shall comply with EN 13015"?
INTERPRETATION
Answer A: Concerning the maintenance instructions, EN 13015 shall be followed in order to earn
"presumption of conformity" with the ESR's of the Lifts Directive. The EN 81-1/2 does not give any
substantial requirements, and cannot be considered as an equal alternative.
Answer B: Yes, 16.3.2 will be considered at the next revision of the standard
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EN 81-1/2 1998 8.17.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 81-12, § 8.17.1 specifies that the car shall be provided with electrical lighting that is permanently
installed ensuring a light intensity of at least 50 lux at floor level and on the control devices.
The standard does not precise over which places on the lift car floor (middle of the car floor, at bottom
of control panel, at the outskirt of the car floor, other), shall this light intensity be ensured.
We are of the opinion that the aim of this light intensity value is:
a) on one hand, to enable any passenger entering into the lift car or already standing inside the car to
locate the control panel and the controls, then to operate the control he has chosen;
b) on the other hand, to visually detect the boundaries at floor of the lift car volume in order to stand in
the place of his choosing.
Depending upon the lighting system installed inside the lift car and also upon the reflecting or non
reflecting effect of the materials the car wall lining is made of, there might be areas at the periphery of
the lift car floor for which the lighting intensity is less than 50 lux. These areas correspond to the zones
where the passenger(s)’s feet are: usually passengers have their back to the car wall.
We think that the value 50 lux is defined as an average value of the lighting intensity required by the
standard, i.e. the average of the sum of the lighting intensity measured on several locations of the lift
car floor, lift car being empty and with exclusion of the areas at the periphery of the car floor, except
the car entrance area.
INTERPRETATION
No. The lighting level of 50 lux on the floor shall be available at any point not less than 100 mm from
any wall.
Comments: the configuration of the car may be so that handrail, tip up seat, etc., may generate
shadow that may be ignored.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2/A2 1998/2004 6.5.5 Date of modification:
QUESTION
The inside of the machinery cabinet shall be provided with permanently installed electric lighting with
an intensity of at least 200 lux at floor level. …
This clause can be understood that the lighting has to be installed inside the cabinet.
During public enquiry Germany and Italy proposed also to accept lightings installed outside the
cabinet. This was accepted and in the follow up (Doc. CEN TC 10 N 369) a remark was made ‘See
new text § 6.5.5’. Unfortunately the text of the standard was never modified.
With this background, could the existing text also be interpreted in such a way that a permanently
installed electric lighting shall provide the lighting of the inside of the machinery cabinet with an
intensity of at least 200 lux at floor level? If this interpretation is acceptable then the lamp might be
installed inside or outside the cabinet.
INTERPRETATION
Reading the text of 6.5.5 word by word is clear, the machinery cabinet has to be fitted with its own
permanently installed electric lighting.
As mentioned in the explanation above, it was the intention to change the text during the review based
on the comments made for the public enquiry.
There is no reason for a stronger requirement for the lighting of the machinery cabinet (machinery
outside the well) as defined in the § 6.4.9 (machinery inside the well).
"The working areas and machinery spaces shall be provided with permanently installed electric lighting
with an intensity of at least 200 lux at floor level."
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1 1998 Annex N Date of modification :
QUESTION
We have carried substantial research into the use of Annex N to calculate rope safety factors
(copy attached). This work shows that some 50 % of systems designed using Annex N will
have lower rope safety factors than those designed using the specific pressure method of the
preceding version of EN 81-1. This is a serious discovery as it affects safety.
In view of the above, the status of Annex N should be informative not normative. Additionally,
a remark should be made in Annex N that designers should also use the previous specific
pressure method and apply the higher of the two rope safety factors discovered in their
design.
INTERPRETATION
No, it is not accepted that there is a lowering of safety, as a safety factor of less than 12 is not
acceptable according to 9.2.2 of EN 81-1. The standard requires a minimum safety factor of
at least 12 to be achieved.
It is not agreed that the previous method should in addition be applied with the highest value
being used.
The evaluation of the safety factor is requested by the standard. For practical reasons, this
has been incorporated in Annex N which is therefore normative. Without this requirement,
compliance with the standard could not be ensured.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 8.17.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
There is an EN 50172:2004, 5.4.2, which requires an emergency escape lighting system also
for the car of a lift. The required light intensity is much higher than the figures given in
EN 81-1/2:1998, 8.17.4.
Shall the light intensity for an emergency escape lighting system fulfil the requirements of
EN 50172 or are the requirements given by the harmonised product standard EN 81-1/2
sufficient?
INTERPRETATION
EN 81-1/2 are harmonised product standards and overrule therefore the requirements given
by the type-B standard EN 50172.
The light in the car shall therefore fulfil the requirements of EN 81-1/2, 8.17.4 including the
requirement mentioned in interpretation No. 549.
NOTE CEN/TC 10 should contact the responsible Technical committee CENELEC /TC 62 and ask for
the elimination of the requirement regarding lift car emergency escape lighting.
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EN 81-2 1998 5.7.2.3 b) 2) Date of modification :
QUESTION
Interpretation No 547 contains the following opinion: "Safety gears, guide shoes and pawl devices
have to be arranged within a horizontal area around the guide rails as shown in Annex B. All other
parts of the car except the apron or parts of the vertically sliding car door(s) shall have a minimum
vertical distance of 0,5 m".
We ask whether the moving parts connected to a telescopic jack can be arranged within the same area
considered for safety gears, guide shoes and pawl devices.
INTERPRETATION
No, the interpretation No 547 is covering only the free vertical distance between the bottom of the pit
and the lowest parts of the car.
Therefore the rule of the interpretation No 547 can't be extended to the ram head assembly or the
lowest guiding yoke of inverted telescopic rams outside the projection of the car.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 D.2 i) 1) Date of modification:
QUESTION
Above clause reads: the tripping speed of the overspeed governor shall be checked in the direction
corresponding to the decent of the car (9.9.1 and 9.9.2) or the counterweight/balancing weight (9.9.3).
b) One shall just read the figures on the governor data plate?
INTERPRETATION
The tripping speed of the governor shall be checked by a practical test on site.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 9.9.7/ F.3.2.4.1 Date of modification :
QUESTION
“The response time of the overspeed governor before tripping shall be sufficiently short not to permit a
dangerous speed to be reached before the moment of safety gear operation (see F.3.2.4.1).”
INTERPRETATION
The value of 0,10 m should be understood as a default value and takes into consideration the distance
travelled during the response time of the speed governor, e.g. the distance between the actuation
points. For some overspeed governors this value may be exceeded in some cases. However the
safety factor of the safety gear is covering most extreme situations.
This will be reconsidered at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 14.2.3; 15.2.3.1; 15.12;
D.2 m) (EN 81-1) Date of modification :
D.2 z) (EN 81-2)
QUESTION
Due to the publication of EN 81-28:2003 relating to remote alarm on passenger and goods passenger
lifts, should 14.2.3 of EN 81-1:1998 and EN 81-2:1998 not be modified as follows?
An intercom system, or similar device, powered by the emergency supply referred to in 8.17.4, shall be
installed between inside the car and the machine room if the lift travel exceeds 30 m."
INTERPRETATION
Yes but EN 81-28:2003 supersedes only partly 14.2.3 of EN 81-1 and EN 81-2 with regard to alarm
systems and affects further related clauses which shall be modified as follows:
nd
5.10, 2 paragraph: "These alarm devices shall be connected to the alarm system according
to EN 81-28:2003.";
8.17.5 to be deleted;
14.2.3.1 "A remote alarm system in accordance with EN 81-28:2003 shall be installed.";
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-1 1998 9.7, Table 2 Date of modification :
Table 2 of 9.7 from EN 81-1:1998 standard indicates that traction sheaves, pulleys and sprockets
located in machine rooms must be protected to prevent bodily injuries and defines that the protection
shall be nip guards (between cables and sheaves and pulley/sprocket) as a minimum.
In section 1.1 of Annex I (“ESSENTIAL HEALTH AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS RELATING TO THE
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF LIFTS AND SAFETY COMPONENTS.”) from Directive 95/16/EC:
Where the relevant hazard exists and is not dealt with in this Annex, the essential health and safety
requirements of Annex I to Directive 89/392/ EEC apply. The essential requirement of Section 1.1.2
of Annex I to Directive 89/392/EEC must apply in any event.”
In Chapter 1 (Scope, placing on the market and free movement), Article 5, paragraph 2 from Directive
95/16/CE:
“Where a national standard transposing a harmonized standard, the reference for which has been
published in the Official Journal of the European Communities, covers one or more of the essential
health and safety requirements:
— lifts constructed in accordance with that standard shall be presumed to comply with the relevant
essential requirements; or
— safety components constructed in accordance with that standard shall be presumed suitable to
enable a lift on which they are correctly installed to comply with the relevant essential
requirements.”
There are notified bodies that demand the sheaves full protection when these have spokes stating that
Directive 89/392/EEC (Machines) must be applied.
1. An installation with a machine room in full compliance with harmonized standards needs more
protection for the sheaves located in the machine room than those established in EN 81-1 in the
cases where those sheaves have spokes?
INTERPRETATION
Answer to question 1: The risk of shearing will be reassessed by the revision.
Answer to question 2: This standard covers relevant ESR's and therefore it can be assumed to have
presumption of conformity.
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EN 81-1/2 1998 8.4.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 81-1/2 including (draft) amendments do not contain requirements for the mechanical strength of the
apron. An apron which is not rigid enough can increase the risk of falling into the shaft under certain
circumstances. prEN 81-21 does contain requirements for the mechanical strength of the apron.
Should EN 81-1/2 contain mechanical strength requirements for the apron similar as prEN 81-21, 5.8.1
c)?
INTERPRETATION
Yes, there should be an addition to 8.4 for the mechanical strength of the apron, based on prEN 81-21,
5.8.1 c). .WG1 already agreed on the following text for the revision of EN 81-1/2 :
8.4.3 When a force of 300 N, being evenly distributed over an area of 5 cm2 in round or square
section, is applied at right angles to the apron at any point at the lower edge of the vertical section from
the landing to the car, the apron shall resist without:
permanent deformation;
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EN 81- 28 2003 4.1.4 Date of modification:
EN 81-28, 4.1.4 requires: A visual and audible signal shall correspond with the requirement of
EN 81-70, 5.4.4.3 and inform the passenger(s) that the initiated alarm has been validated as a true
alarm.
1) Which requirements out of EN 81-70 have to be fulfilled for a lift, which is not intended to be
used by persons with disabilities? Is it only 5.4.4.3 a) or also b) and c)?
2) Is the information of the validation of a true alarm according to EN 81-28, 4.1.4 the same or a
different information as the indication that the alarm has been given according to EN 81-70,
5.4.4.3 a)?
3) Is the yellow bell sign sufficient to satisfy both requirements in EN 81-28, 4.1.4 and EN 81-70,
5.4.4.3 a) at the same time?
4) Is it also acceptable for the visible information if a part of the alarm button (e.g. a transparent
frame) or a LED on the alarm button is illuminated?
5) If the emergency lighting of the car is realized by illumination of the alarm button, is it
acceptable if this illumination is flashing until the button has been operated?
6) Is it sufficient to satisfy the requirements for the audible signals in EN 81-28, 4.1.4 and
EN 81-70, 5.4.4.3 a) by a spoken announcement that the alarm has been accepted and will
be transferred to the rescue organisation?
INTERPRETATION
2) Both information are slightly different but for the understanding of the user it is sufficient to
give only one signal when the alarm has been validated as a true alarm.
3) Yes.
4) Yes.
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EN 81-58 2003 11.5.2.2; 11.5.3.2 Date of modification:
INTERPRETATION
Regarding the texts, about the thermocouples position to determine the average and the maximum
temperature, these texts do not take into consideration the values 300 mm and 100 mm.
a) About the value 300 mm, 15.2 Thermal insulation (I) says that one temperature record is
requested.
So, 11.5.2.2 has to be corrected as follow:
The side panels and over panels equal or more than 300 mm width or height shall be
provided with one thermocouple for each square meter or part thereof, subject to a
minimum of two thermocouples.
b) About the value 100 mm, we consider that one word is missing.
So, 11.5.3.2 has to be corrected as follow:
For vertical or horizontal members with width or height lower and equal 100 mm no
temperature measurements are required.
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EN 81-70 2003 5.4, Table 2, Item f) and g) Date of modification:
QUESTION
Additionally to the operating feedback of the control button according to item f) it is required in item g)
that a registration feedback has to be given on every individual operation of the button even if the call
is already registered.
Question 1: Is the audible signal according to item g) a response of the lift control, which needs to be
given each time the control button is operated?
Question 2: If question 1 is ‘Yes’ does that mean that at the first or at each operation of a button two
signals have to be given, one for the operation of the button according to item f) and a second one with
a short time delay as response of the lift control according to item g)?
INTERPRETATION
Button operation may not necessarily result in a call (or function) registration. Some control systems,
e.g. for industrial application, have exclusive acceptance of the calls: one call will only be registered
when the lift is fully available.
Table 2.f (operation feedback): it is not a “signal” coming from the lift control, but information coming
from the operation of the button itself. The objective is that the user must be able to know that the
button has been operated. This can be achieved e.g. if the button possesses perceivable movement or
it is provided with a system of mechanical feedback. This information is present every time the button
is operated.
Table 2.g (registration feedback): it is a signal indicating that the lift control has registered the button
function. This signal shall be given on every individual operation of button if resulting in the registration
of the button function, or if the button function is already registered.
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EN 81-70 2003 5.4, Table 2 q) Date of modification:
QUESTION
Design provisions for control devices and signals are given in Table 2.
Our opinion is that the physical accessibility for disabled (with a wheel chair) to the landing control is
not clear defined.
We think that, additionally to the requirement written in Table 2 q) additional requirements are needed,
if the landing control is fitted on the door uprights as shown in the following figure.
What is the maximum allowed value for the parameter A in relation to the requirement of Table 2 q), so
that disabled users (in a wheel chair) are able to see and reach the landing control device?
Key
1. Required area for disabled in wheelchair
2. According to Table 2 q) a minimum distance of 500 mm is required
3. Landing
4. Landing control device
Figure 5
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INTERPRETATION
The requested minimum distance of 500 mm from the landing control device to the wall offers a person
in a wheel chair the necessary space to operate the landing control device. The significant projection of
the wall can restrict or prevent the accessibility to the control device therefore a limitation for "A" shall
be defined.
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EN 81-70 2003 5.2.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
It is not clearly stated which objects need to be detected and how the compliance can be checked.
Therefore the following questions arise:
What is the minimum size (diameter) of an object and what are the positions in which an object has to
be detected?
For checking a protective device, shall the objects be in a static or moving position and shall the door
panel(s) be in a static or moving position?
INTERPRETATION
The intention of the standard is to detect body parts (e.g. arms or legs). For that reason, the minimum
size of objects to be detected by the protection device should be approx. 50 mm.
The protective device shall be able to detect a cylindrical object of 50 mm diameter in any position
between the sill and a height of 1800 mm above the sill.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-70 2003 5.2.4 Date of modification:
QUESTION
5.2.4 states:
Question 1: Does the term "user" mean person? If yes we assume this means animals or other objects
are excluded. Does CEN/TC 10/WG1 agree?
Question 2: The words protective device shall cover the opening over a distance of 25 mm means the
beam used. Does CEN/TC 10/WG1 agree?
INTERPRETATION
Question 1: The intention of the standard is to detect human body parts, see interpretation No 003.
Question 2: The device shall detect any object placed on the sill having height not less than 25 mm
and shall be able to detect a cylindrical object of 50 mm diameter in any position between the sill and a
height of 1 800 mm above the sill.
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EN 81-70 2003 5.3, Table 1, Table B.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
In the scope of EN 81-70 it can be read that this standard "specifies the minimum requirements for the
safe and independent access and use of lifts by persons, including persons with the disabilities
mentioned in Annex B, Table B.1." and that "This European Standard covers lifts with minimum car
dimensions according to Table 1 ..."
In Table 1 three lift types with an appropriate "Accessibility level" and additional "Remarks" are
described.
"General Remarks on Accessibility" are included in the informative Annex A and additionally in the
normative Annex B, Table B.1 "Disabilities included in the scope of the standard" are defined with
different categories and sub-categories with their characteristics.
In Table 1 only very few requirements about the application of the three different lift car types
according to normative Annex B, Table B.1 are mentioned:
Only lift type 3 accommodates one wheelchair user and several other users. In the remarks the
sufficient turning space of persons using wheelchairs of class A and B and walking aids are mentioned
for the first time.
That means only lift car type 3 is applicable for persons using walking aids.
Concerning the accessibility level and remarks in Table 1 also other different sub-categories than only
wheelchair users should be assigned to the different lift types in Table 1 according to Table B.1. (e.g.
persons with walking sticks, crutches, rollator, impaired dexterity, impaired vision etc).
Which kind of persons described in Table B.1 "Disability included in the scope of the standard"
regarding the different categories and sub-categories can use which lift type described in Table 1 (lift
type 1, 2 or 3)?
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INTERPRETATION
Minimum
Type car
Accessibility level Remarks
of lift dimensions
a
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EN 81-70 2003 G.1 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Are the XL control devices in the car an addition to the vertical controls (that means that you have
vertical and horizontal together in your car) or is it an alternative to the vertical "normal" controls.
If it would be an alternative, then it would be curious that they are mentioned in an informative annex.
INTERPRETATION
It was the intention that the XL control devices in the car as described in G.1 would be an alternative
solution to the controls described in 5.4.2.2.
This will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-70 2003 § 5.4.2; Table 2 Date of modification:
QUESTION
Either for new lift installation or when modernising an existing lift, EN 81-70 is today the reference.
Concerning the controls in the lift car as well as at the landings of the lift, 5.4 of EN 81-70 requests
Table 2 is taken into account, where pictograms are addressed for the controls in the lift car and at the
landings.
These pictograms are described precisely in 5.4.2.1 for the controls in the lift car: figures for the served
landing, a bell for the alarm button and the two opposite triangle, respectively summit to summit faced
for the door close button and base to base faced for the door reopening button.
On the contrary, nothing is said for the landing controls in 5.4.1 as for the meaning and aspect of the
indicated pictograms for those controls.
In Table 2, the word "pictograms" does not give further explanation. However, the position and the
relief of these possible pictograms are requested in the case pictograms are used for the landing
controls. In other words, the arrows, if any, shall be according to this Table 2.
In the case of absence of arrows, the position of both control buttons at the landing, located one above
the other, is considered sufficient for the understanding of the user, whatever the level of his sight :
good or not. The button above for calling the lift in order to move upwards and vice versa for the button
below.
We believe that landing call button boxes without arrows indicating upward/downward call are
therefore compliant with the standard.
Is our interpretation correct?
If not, we would ask CEN/TC 10 to revise the standard to align with ISO 4190-5, published later on, in
particular with 3.2.
INTERPRETATION
The standard does not request indication arrows for the operation of landing call buttons. Therefore
landing call button without upward/downward arrows are compliant with this standard.
But an alignment to ISO 4190-5:2006 regarding arrows indicating upward/downward call will be
considered during the next revision.
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EN 81-70 2003 5.3.2.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
We would like to raise a question on EN 81-70, 5.3.2.3. In case of glass mirrors this clause requires
safety glass. However it is not further specified which requirements ‘safety glass’ has to fulfil.
In our opinion it is sufficient to fix (e.g. glue) the glass on a supporting plate over its full back surface in
order to prevent that parts of the glass fall down or cracks lead to cutting hazards if the glass is broken.
We don’t believe it is necessary to use any special glass for this application.
INTERPRETATION
The purpose of the clause is to prevent broken glass to create any cutting hazards. This can be
achieved either by the nature of the glass used (e.g. tempered glass or laminated glass) or by design
(e.g. glass adequately glued on a support preventing that element of glass will fall).
Any glass with a breaking mode B or C according to EN 12600:2002, Annex C should be allowed.
This should be considered at the next revision of the Standard.
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EN 81-70 2003 5.4.2.3 Date of modification:
QUESTION
EN 81-70 reads in § 5.4.2.3: “The car control panel shall be located on the wall as follows:
a) with centre opening doors, it shall be on the right hand side when entering the car;
In case of lifts type 3 with two car entrances the requirements in a) or b) shall be fulfilled as applicable.”
This last sentence is translated differently in the French version which reads: ”In case of lifts type 3 the
requirements in a) and b) shall be fulfilled as applicable.”
In French, the sentence does not address the type 3 two car entrance lifts.
We think the French version is not correct and should be modified according to the English version
which is the basic version.”
INTERPRETATION
Yes, the French version should be corrected by adding the underlined words as following:
In case of lifts type 3 with two car entrances the requirements in a) or b) shall be fulfilled as applicable.”
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QUESTION
Protection of electronics.
Does this mean that protection is required to push buttons, indicators and other fixtures on all floors?
INTERPRETATION
The electrical/electronic landing control devices and indicators shall continue to function at the fire
service access level, so that the firefighters can detect where the car is located for rescue purposes
e.g. where the car is blocked when operating in an ambient temperature range of 0 °C to 65 °C, for a
period equal to that required for the structure e.g. 2 h.
It is also required to prevent that a presence of water from firefighting operations can be the cause of a
short circuit of any electrical car and landing controls, indicators etc. and affect the function of the lift.
For that:
the signalisation panel and firefighters lift switch at the fire service access level.
Concerning the landing controls and signalization panel at other levels they have to be protected
against water in the same way (IPX3 according to EN 60529) unless they are electrically disconnected
on initiation of firefighter lift switch.
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QUESTION
According to 5.8.5 the function of the lift shall not be affected by an electrical malfunction of the landing
call control or other parts of the lift control system located outside of the lift well.
Faults caused by temperature, smoke and water are already considered in 5.1.2 a) and 5.11.
INTERPRETATION
The other cause(s) can be any other cause that, by inherent design, may affect the operation of the lift.
If the lift control system or other parts of the lift are located outside of the well, this location is deemed
to be a machinery space where the requirements concerning a lift machine room must be applied.
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QUESTION
The clause says that ‘by switching the firefighters lift switch from 1 to 0 (for a maximum of 5 s) and
back to 1 to repeat phase 1’
If the system is designed in accordance with the wording the lift will return to the fire service access
level on any interruption of the supply however short. This could be dangerous for firefighters and was
clearly not the intention.
INTERPRETATION
Yes, the remark is correct and the standard should say “… switch from "1" to "0" and hold for a
minimum 5 s before returning to position "1”."
The above will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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QUESTION
Can an alternative type of key be used for firefighters lift switch at fire service access level to initiate
phase 1?
INTERPRETATION
This is not in accordance with the standard, however, would be permissible with the agreement of a
Notified Body in agreement with the relevant fire authorities.
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QUESTION
The standards states means of rescue such as fixed ladders in accordance with 6.2.2 b), c) and e) of
EN 81-1:1998 and EN 81-2:1998, located within 0,75 m from the sill of the landing entrance above.
The ladder in EN 81-1 and 2 are used at an angle (65° to 75°). This is not practical to use!
INTERPRETATION
The use of ladders in this situation is for emergency rescue only. Reference to EN 81-1/2 (as amended
by amendment 2), 6.2.2 c)) is an error and should read 6.2.2 d). However, there should be some
means provided for securing the ladder in place to provide safe usage.
The above will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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QUESTION
The standard states, where a ladder is provided, its minimum length shall be such that when the lift car
stays flush with the landing, the landing door lock of the next upper landing level can be reached.
Where it is not possible for such a ladder to be installed on the car then a permanently installed ladder
fixed to the well shall be used.
With the car at floor level is not the worst case. The car may be 1 m below the floor.
INTERPRETATION
The length of the ladder should be such as to enable the firefighter to release the landing door lock
mechanism of the next floor from any position of the car.
The standard does not demand use of the ladder but the intent of the standard is to enable a firefighter
to get off the roof of the car.
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EN 81-72 2004 5.8.8 d) Date of modification:
QUESTION
According to 5.8.8.d) registration of a car call shall cause the lift car to travel to the selected floor. No
information is given on how closing of the door is arranged when the door was open during the call.
1) After registration of a car call, shall doors close automatically or shall a door close button –
similar to the door open button – activate the closing?
2) Does operating a door reversal device or door open button during door closing delete the
call?
INTERPRETATION
1) The registration of a car call shall initiate the closing of the door.
2) This point is not clearly defined in the standard, it will be considered at the next revision.
However, in the meantime it is suggested that the initiation of the re-opening of the car door
shall automatically cancel the registered call.
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QUESTION
The operation at the firefighters lift switch at the landing requires the use of the triangle key, as defined
in 5.8.2.
Some countries require an additional firefighters key switch in the car to initiate the phase 2 of the
firefighters control as mentioned in § 5.8.8 h). This type of key is not defined by the standard.
2) If not, is it allowed to use a key, different from the triangle, for the car and the landing
firefighter operation?
INTERPRETATION
1) The type of key for use in the car is not defined in the standard and consequently any type of
key is permissible.
2) For the landing operation the type of key is defined by the standard. If an alternative key to
the triangle is used, then approval must be obtained from relevant authority.
The above will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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EN 81-72 2004 5.11 Date of modification:
QUESTION
1) It is possible to install the car operating panel for firemen behind a locked door, in order to
avoid confusion for the user? If yes and if a key is used, what type of key is required (triangle
Annex B?)
2) Is it possible to have a key-pad for the firemen, in place of a standard car operating panel?
3) Is a car position indicator needed in firefighters service at the fire service access level?
INTERPRETATION
Firefighting operation for lifts with destination control was not considered when drafting the standard.
1) Nothing is against the fact that the special car operating panel is hidden behind a cabinet door
during normal operation, but this car operating panel should be at the disposal of the firemen
when required. This can be achieved by the automatic opening of the cabinet door by
operation of the firefighters lift switch, or manually by a key at the disposal of the firemen. In
this case a triangular key is recommended. If the cabinet door has to be opened manually, it
should be clearly indicated that the car operating panel for the firemen is located behind the
cabinet door.
2) No. The operation of the car operating panel has to be in accordance with phase 2, 5.8.8 and
5.11.3;
3) Yes. This is necessary for the firefighters standing at the Fire service access level, in order to
know at which level are the other firefighters. This should be in accordance with 5.1.2a) and
5.8.8j).
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QUESTION
INTERPRETATION
Yes, the measures referred to in the question were taken into account when drafting the standard.
Self rescue:
The electric safety chain is open as soon as the trap door is opened;
As soon as the fireman is on the roof of the car, the stopping device has to be pressed;
If the self rescue is done by use of the removable ladder, located outside the car, an electric
safety contact opens the electric safety chain as defined in 5.4.5.
External rescue:
External rescue must only be undertaken after the main power for the lift has been disconnected;
In addition, the electric safety chain is opened immediately a landing door is opened;
External rescue must be undertaken only by at least two fully trained persons, who will have
been instructed to block the landing door open and press the emergency stop switch on the
car top. Furthermore, the electric safety chain will open when the emergency trap on the car
top is opened.
In all cases, firefighters are trained in both rescue techniques.
In addition these instructions are provided in the owner’s instruction manual.
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QUESTION
"NOTE: The level of fire resistance of the wall and the doors of the environment are defined by
National Regulations”
INTERPRETATION
It is the responsibility of the national/local regulators to determine the levels of fire resistance
necessary.
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QUESTION
nd
Relating to intermediate fire wall in EN 81-72, § 5.1.1, 2 paragraph:
1) Should the intermediate fire wall also be present in the machine room?
2) Where there is no intermediate wall, what protection should be given to the electrical
equipment?
INTERPRETATION
1) As with the intermediate fire wall in the well, it is the responsibility of the national/local
regulators to determine if an intermediate fire wall is necessary in the machine room. If there
is no intermediate wall, the complete well(s) and machine room normally belong to the same
fire compartment.
2) No special protection should be given, assuming that a fault on any lift in a group will not
affect the function of the firefighters lift – see 5.8.5.
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INTERPRETATION
This is the responsibility of the building designer to determine the appropriate measures.
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EN 81-72 2004 5.1.1; 5.8.5 Date of modification:
QUESTION
What are the requirements for “other lifts” in the same lift well as the firefighters lift?
INTERPRETATION
The main purpose of the standard is that: “No electrical fault on any other lift located in the same group
as the firefighters lift shall affect the operation of the firefighters lift”.
Therefore it is up to the manufacturer to select a method to fulfil this requirement by means of product
or building design.
For example, consider the Group Control in such a way that (electrical) fault in “other” lifts will not
affect the functioning of the firefighter lift. And if necessary, to provide the same protection against
water, fire, smoke and temperature to the non fire fighting lifts.
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QUESTION
INTERPRETATION
2) For firefighter application the car doors must not provide a fire bridge at any level between fire
protected lobby used by the firefighters and the other lobby on the same level.
The above will be taken into consideration at the next revision of the standard.
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Key-word(s):
Replacing interpretation No.:
Manual Recall Device; Authorised Person
QUESTION
In the definition of the Manual Recall Device under 3.11 examples are given, “break glass toggle switch,
button or key switch”. The reference to key switch appears to have been added after the final draft was
circulated for comment.
Whilst 5.3.7 states that the return to service of the lift can only be carried out by an authorised person,
5.3.1 does not state that the lift should only be removed from service by an authorised person.
We believe that giving an example of a “key switch” only allows authorised persons to remove the lift
from service and that this is incorrect.
Our question is :
Was the intension to have the lift removed from service only by an authorised person with a key, such as
a fire fighting lift recall switch, or should it be possible for the lift to be removed from service by anyone,
such as would be the case using the break glass and toggle switch or button.
INTERPRETATION
Intension was that anyone is allowed to remove the lift(s) from service in case of fire.
Return to service of the lift(s) can only be carried out by an authorised person.
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(normative)
Related to former editions of EN 81-1 and EN 81-2 interpretations have already been made. Due to the limited
task given by CEN/TC 10 to CEN/TC 10/WG 1 in 1989, the interpretations pertaining to previous editions of
EN 81-1 and EN 81-2, indicated in order of the chapters in the following list, are still valid.
Table A.1 — Valid interpretations pertaining to previous editions of EN 81-1 and EN 81-2
Valid for
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Valid for
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Related Key words
number validity
clause edition edition
1978 1985 1998 1987 1998
Pulleys at top of well
6.1.2.1.1 73 04-1983 X X X X
NOTE § 6.1.2 in EN 81-1/2:1998
Protection of diverter pulleys in the pit
6.1.2.1.1 239 09-1994 X X
NOTE § 6.1.2 in EN 81-1:1998
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Valid for
Related Interpretation Date of EN 81-1 EN 81-2
Key words
clause number validity edition edition
1978 1985 1998 1987 1998
7.5.2.1.1.3 106 01-1984 X X X X X Protective devices on doors
Protective device arrangement on
7.5.2.1.1.3 128 11-1986 X X X X X
centre opening doors
Actuating force for door protective
7.5.2.1.1.3 158 02-1989 X X X X X
devices
7.5.2.1.1.3 187 11-1990 X X X X X Solutions of closing-force limitations
7.5.2.1.2 171 01-1990 X X X X Design of large car- and landing doors
Requirements for vertically-sliding
7.5.2.2 23 06-1980 X X X X X
doors
Design of vertically sliding car- and
7.5.2.2 172 01-1990 X X X X
landing door
7.7.2.1 196 07-1991 X X X X Energising the brake
7.7.2.1 207 01-1993 X X Preliminary operations
7.7.2.2 196 07-1991 X X X X Energising the brake
Type examination of door locking
7.7.3 222 11-1993 X X X X
devices
7.7.3 227 05-1994 X X X X Power operated opening of car door
7.7.3.2 50 01-1982 X X X X X Handles on sliding doors
7.7.3.2 171 01-1990 X X X X Design of large landing and car doors
Type examination of door locking
7.7.4.1 222 11-1993 X X X X devices
NOTE § 7.7.4.1 in EN 81-1/2:1998
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Valid for
Related Interpretation Date of EN 81-1 EN 81-2
Key words
clause number validity
edition edition
1978 1985 1998 1987 1998
Cars made of wood
8.3 202 03-1992 X X X X
NOTE § 8.3.1 in EN 81-1/2:1998
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Valid for
Related Interpretation Date of EN 81-1 EN 81-2
Key words
clause number validity
edition edition
1978 1985 1998 1987 1998
9.8.7 48 09-1980 X X X X X Car floor inclination
9.8.8 230 09-1994 X X X X Release of a tripped safety gear
Slack rope/chain and safety gear
9.8.8 237 09-1994 X X
contract
9.8.8 252 09-1995 X X Electric safety device at the safety gear
9.9 148 02-1989 X X X Overspeed governor in pit
Indication of rated speeds for
9.9.1 149 02-1989 X X X
overspeed
9.9.1 160 02-1989 X X X Governor tripping speed check
9.9.6.1 71 04-1983 X X X Overspeed governor drive
9.9.6.5 159 02-1989 X X X Tensioning of governor rope
9.9.7 228 05-1994 X X Response time
9.9.9 72 04-1983 X X X Manual checking of safety gear
Electric safety device at the overspeed
9.9.11 177 01-1990 X X X
governor
Operation of the electric safety device
9.9.11.1 266 01-1997 X X
at the overspeed governor
Electric safety device on overspeed
9.9.11.2 241 09-1994 X X
governor
9.10.2 160 02-1989 X X Governor tripping speed check
Indication of rated speeds for
9.10.2.1 149 02-1989 X X
overspeed governor
9.10.2.5.1 71 04-1983 X X Overspeed governor drive
9.10.2.5.2 148 02-1989 X X Overspeed governor in pit
9.10.2.5.2 159 02-1989 X X Tensioning of governor rope
9.10.2.6 228 05-1994 X X Response time
9.10.2.8 72 04-1983 X X Manual checking of safety gear
Electric safety device at the overspeed
9.10.2.10.2 177 01-1990 X X
governor
Electric safety device on overspeed
9.10.2.10.2 241 09-1994 X X
governor
Tripping the safety gear by suspension
9.10.3.2 256 03-1996 X X
failure
9.11.7 210 01-1993 X X Buffering system in pawl devices
10.1.2 94 04-1983 X X X X X Fixing of guide rails
10.3 127 11-1986 X X X X X Impact speed on buffers
10.3.1 103 07-1983 X X X X X Buffer arrangements
Possible design of instantaneous safety
10.3.1 111 09-1984 X X X
gear with buffered effect
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Valid for
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Key words
clause number validity
edition edition
1978 1985 1998 1987 1998
Possible design of instantaneous safety
10.3.2 111 09-1984 X X gear with buffered effect
NOTE § 10.3.1 in EN 81-2:1998
10.3.3 194 07-1991 X X Buffers underneath the car
Touch between the ram and the bottom
10.3.4 236 09-1994 X X
of the cylinder
10.5.2.3 a) 134 05-1987 X X X X X Final limit switch
10.5.2.3 a)
224 01-1994 X X Tripping of the final limit switch
b)
Effects after operation of the final limit
10.5.3 201 03-1992 X X
switch
10.5.3.1 a) 219 06-1993 X X Final limit switches for drum drive lifts
Return to normal service from operation
10.5.3.2 238 09-1994 X X
of the final limit switch
10.5.3.2 245 11-1995 X X Realisation of non response to calls
Combination of slack-rope switch and
10.6 182 09-1990 X X safety gear switch
NOTE § 12.13 in EN 81-2:1998
Slack rope/chain and safety gear contract
10.6 237 09-1994 X X
NOTE § 12.13 in EN 81-2:1998
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Valid for
Related
Interpretation Date of EN 81-1 EN 81-2
clause Key words
number validity
edition edition
1978 1985 1998 1987 1998
Design of the manually operated
12.9.1.5 175 01-1990 X X
emergency lowering valve
Safety against slack rope/chain at the
12.9.1.5 225 01-1994 X X
manual emergency lowering valve
12.11 118 06-1985 X X Protective measures in machine room
Operation of the temperature detecting
12.13 268 09-1997 X X
device
13 18 05-1980 X X X X X Printed circuits
13.1.2 263 01-1997 X X X X IP-degree in the well
13.1.4 255 03-1996 X X X X Power supply of automatic doors
13.1.4 257 03-1996 X X X X Application of EN 60 204
13.3.2 186 09-1990 X X X X Motor protection
13.3.3 186 09-1990 X X X X Motor protection
13.5.3.3 119 06-1985 X X X X X Light switch
13.6.2 173 01-1990 X X X X X Socket outlets and switches for lighting
14.1.1 213 01-1993 X X X X Failure analysis for inspection operation
14.1.1.3 240 09-1994 X X X X Position of contacts of contactors
Electric Safety devices in neutral
14.1.2.1.2 123 11-1986 X X X X
conductor
14.1.2.2.5 174 01-1990 X X X X X Design of door locking devices
14.1.2.4 196 07-1991 X X X X Energising the brake
14.2 267 09-1997 X X Use of emergency electrical operation
14.2.1.2 196 07-1991 X X X X Energising the brake
14.2.1.2 263 01-1997 X X X X IP-degree in the well
14.2.1.3 101A 05-1987 X X X X X Inspection control station arrangements
14.2.1.3 120 05-1987 X X X X X Inspection control
14.2.1.3 133 05-1987 X X X X X Timer in inspection operation circuit
Inspection controls and door
14.2.1.3 183 09-1990 X X X X X
movements
14.2.1.3 265 01-1997 X X X X Inspection control and door movements
14.2.1.4 136 01-1988 X X X Emergency electrical arrangements
14.2.1.4 267 09-1997 X X Use of emergency electrical operation
14.2.1.5 200 02-1989 X X Protection against phase reversal
Activation of the relevelling device
14.2.1.5.1 258 03-1996 X X
NOTE § 14.2.1.5 a) in EN 81-2:1998
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Valid for
Related
Interpretation Date of EN 81-1 EN 81-2
clause Key words
number validity
edition edition
1978 1985 1998 1987 1998
Inspection control station arrangements
14.2.2.3 a) 101a 05-1987 X X X X X
NOTE § 14.2.2.1 c) in EN 81-1/2:1998
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