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Empathic Confrontation in Group Schema Therapy: January 2013
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reparenting and a mode change strategy in its own right. Empathic confrontation can be
dysfunctional mode behavior, with empathy for how they developed, balanced by
confronting these behaviors as needing to change for the patient to have a healthy life.
It is a critical intervention for accomplishing the overall goal of Schema Therapy- to help
patients get their adult needs met in a healthy manner – as it points out the negative
effects of their currently used unhealthy schema and mode driven behavior and assists
them in learning and using more adaptive behavior. Empathic confrontation is used in
limited reparenting bond with the patient. This chapter will discuss implementing
empathic confrontation in Group ST: the ways in which the unique therapeutic factors of
the group can augment the intervention and the additional considerations that are
necessary when the intervention occurs in front of others, rather than the privacy of
individual therapy.
The basic formula for empathic confrontation is the same whether done in
individual or group ST. Empathic confrontation involves the therapist empathizing with
the patients underlying pain and need while challenging the behavior of the mode. It
requires that you have enough connection with the patient for them to have some
amount of belief that you have their best interest at heart and are not being critical. In
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Group ST it may be even more important to establish the therapist’s good intention to
avoid patients feeling shamed when empathic confrontation occurs in the presence of
others giving it an added social context. We reinforce our positive connection and our
am concerned that your old protective behavior will not get your needs met today”. We
acknowledge the origin of the behavior “I understand that because you were bullied as a
child your Bully-attack mode takes over when you feel hurt today”. Then we point out
why the MCM behavior will not get their need met, “but I am concerned that strategy
leads to people being afraid of you and avoiding you and your needs for companionship
and love are never met.” Then we offer a correction, a behavior that could meet their
need. “You could decide in the group to let safe people know when they hurt your
feelings and see if they meant to or if it was a misunderstanding before letting the old
coping behavior take over and protect you by hurting them. That way your need for
companionship has a chance of being met. The old way you will stay alone”. We offer
help with the correction behavior. “We can work on how to let someone know when you
1. Strengthen your connection with the patient and clarify your intent
2. Name the maladaptive behavior, (you may want to also name the mode if it is later in
treatment)
validation) and express concern that it does not get their needs met today (confront
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5. Offer a correction – a behavior that will get their needs met today
practice it.
All six steps are essential to the effective use of empathic confrontation. Other
approaches to psychotherapy tend to focus on steps two, four and five, skipping one
and three. Schema Therapy posits that you must have a limited reparenting connection
before the other steps can be effectively implemented. Step three is the part most
appealing to patients and motivating of change, as they feel understood and who does
not want to have their needs met? Our patients may feel that they do not “deserve” to
have their needs met, but will still respond positively to our efforts to help them get their
1. Step One: Reinforce or strengthen your connection with him/her and your
positive intention in questioning their behavior
The most basic ways to reinforce our connection with a patient in a group are: to use a
soft and gentle voice tone, a positive expression, ensure that you have eye contact and
increase your physical proximity to him or her. In many cases this simply requires
leaning forward in your seat toward a patient. It may require getting out of your chair
and physically moving toward him or her, particularly if you are combining limit setting
In the group we use a number of exercises that connect patients and therapists with
connections that include the teleological level of development that patients can be at in
In this exercise done in an early session, we toss a ball of yarn back and forth and
around the group, winding it around one’s hand each time it is caught, until it creates an
overlapping web of connections. Then we experiment with tugs on the web, loosening,
tightening, letting go, etc. always paying attention to what these variations in physical
connection feel like. We do a variation of this exercise with strips of very soft fleece,
connect with the Vulnerable Child mode safely or to help calm and ground the Angry
Child mode. The web can also be used to emphasize connection at a time when we are
Using the whole group’s connection can help the patient being empathically confronted
to still feel that they belong and the reminder of the group’s connection to that patient
can help them remain empathic. To emphasize or remind the patient of their connection
with us we ask them to look directly at us and at times add giving them the end of a
fleece strip to hold. This physical move has a big impact and seems to increase the
interpersonal connection. The web is an exercise for group ST, but the fleece
connection can also be used in individual ST. These physical connections act as a safe
way to underline the connections between members, with the therapists and with the
group as a whole.
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When patients are in the Angry Child mode they are not in a state easily reached with
words alone. We frequently pull out a towel or fleece strip and toss it to them. People
usually grab the end automatically and we initiate a “tug of war” briefly as a way to
communicate that we are there with them, paying attention and listening. This can
The next step, the confrontation part of the intervention, is one novice therapists often
find difficult. Group therapists tell us that they are afraid that this step will offend or
upset a patient and trigger them leaving the session and even the therapy. However,
pointing out mode based behavior that does not get needs met with empathic
we do not confront our patients in group sessions they will continue behaviors that are
The modes with maladaptive behaviors that we use empathic confrontation for
1. Avoidant Coping Modes For example, being in Detached Protector in the group
session whether just being spacey or the active pushing away of others of the
Angry-Protector mode;
behavior that risks that patient becoming a disliked scapegoat or others skipping
sessions out of annoyance with the patient and the therapist for not stopping the
behavior
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patient is in.
In group sessions naming the behavior must be combined with limit setting if other
group members are being negatively impacted, for example with Bully-Attack mode
available, but today it does not result in their need being met.
There are two main ways in the group modality to accomplish this – verbal
description and demonstration. The latter, which operates at the experiential level, can
confrontation.
exercise
This is a group experiential exercise (described in Reiss, Farrell & Shaw, 2013) in which
patients play the roles of various modes using scripts developed by the group. These
include one of the Dysfunctional Parent modes, one of the Maladaptive Coping modes,
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the Angry Child mode, the Vulnerable Child mode, the Healthy Adult mode and the
Good Parent part of the Healthy Adult. Two patients play the Parent and Coping Modes
and two join the two therapists as “helpers or in training” of the Healthy Adult and Good
Parent. This arrangement can vary based upon the predominant modes in your patient
group. All eight group members play a role. The therapist playing the Healthy Adult acts
as the “director” and leads this experiential empathic confrontation. Chairs are set up
that represent the relationship among the modes: the Child and Parent modes face
each other about 12 feet apart. The Coping modes sit in front of the child modes facing
away from them. Their task is to try to protect the Child modes, but due to their focus on
the Parent modes they do not see the children. The Healthy Adult and Good Parent and
their assistants sit separated from the Child modes by the Coping modes. To start, the
Parent modes express punitive statements and the Child modes express Pain
(Vulnerable Child) and anger (Angry Child). This goes on for a few minutes. Then the
Coping modes “develop” so they join in an effort to protect the Child modes. This is Step
the Parents are taken away literally and sent to the past where the therapist declares
that they belong. Now it becomes clear that when the Coping modes continue their old
protective behavior they are keeping the Good Parent and Healthy Adult away from the
Child modes. The Child mode needs are not met – this is the “point out that the old
behavior does not meet current needs” step. As the role play continues the Coping
modes are convinced to move aside to allow the Healthy Adult and Good Parent
access. This is the “correction”. After this happens, contact is made and first the Good
parent and later the Healthy Adult connect with the Child modes and meet their needs
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by listening to and validating the anger of the Angry child and comforting the Vulnerable
child mode. Usually fleece strips are offered to both patients playing Child modes to
represent the new connections among the Healthy modes and the Child modes.
Patients tell us that this role-play captures their experience well. It acts as a very
which mode the maladaptive behavior you want to empathically confront is in.
Early in schema therapy treatment it takes more than a simple statement of the
therapist or group’s assessment that an old Coping mode behavior does not meet a
experiential exercises that demonstrate to patients based upon their experience that our
assessment is accurate.
This exercise has two or three patients volunteer to play the Detached Protector mode
by holding a piece of paper in front of their face as they sit next to each other in a block.
Their task is to not respond to any efforts of the group and therapists to influence them
to lower these paper masks. In the course of this exercise the other patients usually
move from straightforward requests that they rejoin us, to cajoling, to anger and
eventually to ignoring those behind the papers. The exercise accomplishes Step two of
empathic confrontation: demonstrate that the old Coping mode behavior does not allow
the current need to be met, and may even elicit anger and rejection – the opposite of
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the need. It is possible to move from the exercise to the next steps of empathic
confrontation.
4. Step Four: Offer a correction – a behavior that will get the underlying need met
today in adult life
We frequently need to demonstrate to patients that a correction will lead to their need
being met, because the correction usually triggers feelings of vulnerability. The Mode
demonstrated that a correction – in this case moving aside the Detached Protector –
would lead to the need being met. We assert that the correction of risking vulnerability in
the group and experiencing the outcome of needs being met is one of the critical
corrective emotional experiences possible in Group Schema therapy. The form of the
correction depends upon the mode involved and the patient’s abilities.
Example: Empathic confrontation for the Angry Protector but limit setting for the
Angry Child mode. The emotion expressed in both is anger, but the need
underlying the modes is different, thus requires a different correction
In response to a patient yelling and pointing a finger aggressively at the therapist in a
group session: Therapist: “I understand that you are very angry with me and want me
to hear you, but when you are yelling I cannot really hear your complaint. Can you lower
your voice a bit so that I can hear what you need from me?” The response to the Angry
Child mode includes encouragement to vent, but without yelling. This is the limit
setting correction needed for the Angry Child mode. In contrast, the correction of
empathic confrontation for the Angry Protector mode would not encourage venting.
In that case venting would strengthen the angry avoidance. It is important to distinguish
the Angry Child mode, which is a normal, instinctual expression of anger when needs
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are not met, from maladaptive Coping modes like Angry Detached Protector or Bully
Attack. For the Angry Child, venting is therapeutic and meets their need to be heard.
For the Angry Detached Protector, empathic confrontation is what is needed and
someone and the therapist’s limited reparenting response in that case would combine
Sometimes the correction can be the therapist assessing the underlying need and
therapist leading an exercise and the interventions of Schema Therapy in general. The
other therapist sitting next to the ranting patient assessed that this Overcompensating
mode behavior had been triggered because he felt the loneliness of his Vulnerable
Child. Without saying anything she reached over and draped a strip of fleece over his
knee, smiling at him as she did so. He reflexively picked up the fleece and as he did his
face softened and he went from being rather puffed up to lowering his shoulders and
taking a deep breath. He said “That is what I needed. It really took the wind out of me”.
The group was able to go on to process this experience and determine that his old
Coping mode behavior had been pushing everyone away, while his lonely Vulnerable
Child needed connection. A simple correction was for the therapist to take an action that
made him feel more connected like the fleece strip. Sometimes, if neither therapist is
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sitting next to the patient in such a mode, we toss a fleece strip to the adjacent patient
5. Step Five: Making the decision to change mode behavior is part of the correction
Maladaptive Coping mode” list (handout in Reiss, Farrell & Shaw, 2013). Go over it with
the patient and let them decide whether to work on decreasing the frequency or
intensity of the mode. This step is discussed with handouts in other chapters.
needs met. It is the Coping mode that can lead to exploitation and even unwanted
exercise in which therapist and patient stand up and the patient indicates where the
boundary of her personal space is. The therapist asks the patient to tell her when the
boundary is reached. She then walks up to the boundary. A patient with this Coping
mode will usually say “it is there” in a soft voice. The therapist questions it by starting to
step over. The patient may or may not say anything. If she does not the therapist will
ask why she did not speak up. Next the therapist draws attention to some article of
clothing or jewelry and begins to comment on it and ask about it. In the process she will
move closer, over the defined boundary, getting as close as the patient allows her to
before saying stop. Typically Ida will comment on a piece of jewelry and “to see it better”
will keep moving in. At the end, she will ask the patient why she did not stop her at the
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boundary. A usual response is “well, you were being nice and you were interested in
seeing it closer, so I thought my boundary did not really matter so much.” Ida replies “so
anyone who is nice and interested in you can step all over your boundaries.” This is
usually a good summary statement of that patient’s behavior. The next step is to
practice the correction. This can be done with help from the group in the form of saying
In group we are able to provide interpersonal corrections directly with as much or little
members kept pointing out that her behavior was unhealthy and not meeting her need
for protection. She kept saying that she could “not talk about it”, that it was “impossible
to change”, that she was “doing it to keep the peace” in her family. This led to a
stalemate with negative feelings toward her developing in the group. One of the
therapists realized that it was also Karen’s need in the group to have peace and
acceptance. She went over to her and whispered suggestions of how to express her
feelings: “I don’t feel able to discuss it yet, I am too scared”. The patient said “I can’t talk
about it”. This was not enough information for her peers, who continued to push her.
After two more attempts by the therapist to give Karen words to express her Vulnerable
Child mode rather than a Coping mode, she was able to repeat the therapist ‘s words –
i.e., the correction. She told the group that she knew it was a problem, but it was too
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scary for her to deal with right now. This change elicited support from her peers instead
of confrontation. The group members realized that the Vulnerable Child does not need
empathic confrontation. Karen’s risking vulnerability led to a good outcome; her need for
acceptance and “keeping the peace” in group was met. The group was able to discuss
the process and understand that she went along and surrendered in childhood to
minimize abuse. Karen and the group saw that the correction behavior – expressing her
need in the group as an adult led to the outcome she needed, while the Coping mode
family, we must consider all of the “children”. For example, it is important to clarify the
boundaries for behaviors that can be frightening or hurtful like the expression of anger.
Raised voices can be very triggering of Coping modes. Empathic confrontation may
need to take place privately if an individual has little Healthy Adult mode and will feel too
exposed and vulnerable in the group particularly in early stages of the group bonding.
Other times, if a disruptive behavior has occurred repeatedly in the group, empathic
confrontation needs to take place there. When that is the case, we find it helpful to “set
using “I” statements that we actively enforce, and then allow space for other members
to get involved as long as it remains empathic and constructive. A therapist would need
patient. The group can give a member feedback about how they are affected by a peer
in the Bully-Attack mode calling them a mean name. . Therapists can use selective self-
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disclosure to give their feedback also. Therapist feedback may take the form of “we love
you, but feel hurt and angry about these repeated verbal attacks.”
therapists one a “bitch” when she did not like something that she said. The other
patients jumped in with their complaints about therapist one. Therapist two thought that
therapist one should respond, so he did nothing. Therapist one felt overwhelmed and
ultimately became defensive, telling the patients they were ungrateful. This fueled the
patients’ negative comments even more. Therapist two did not want to be perceived as
interfering with the interaction with therapist one. It was more important for one of them
to set a limit at once, and then empathically confront the Maladaptive Coping Mode
The group gives feedback about how they are affected by the Bully-Attack mode in
group.
them (for example, “I feel overwhelmed when you x” not “I feel angry and disgusted
Therapist feedback may take the form of “we love you and want you to be in the
group, but feel hurt and angry about these repeated verbal attacks.”
can be useful groundwork to provide for giving such feedback. In working in group
with personality disorder patients it is important at the cognitive level for them to
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understand the difference between intent and effect and that they are still
The therapists can emphasize that nothing can occur in the group that they cannot help
with in some way. As a last resort, there could be a situation in which one therapist
works with the individual patient and the other therapist responds to the needs of the
rest of the group until a point is reached where all can resume the group’s interaction.
even more withdrawal and a therapeutic factor of groups – vicarious learning – provides
The simple fact is that when empathic confrontation is implemented in a group it has
social consequences for the patient just because peers are present. This can add extra
schemas can also distort the patient’s experience of what you have said to them, so it
should be checked if there is any doubt. This is done simply by asking “What did you
hear me say?” Often the patient’s answer is based more on maladaptive schemas than
consensual reality.
Borderline personality disorder I had included the statement “John (an ex-husband she
was on good terms with) cares about you” and “Joan cares about you”. I wrote both
statements on an index card for her and then sat back expecting a positive reaction
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when she read it over. To my surprise, she looked even more distressed. I had a
moment of panic, fearing that I had miswritten the card. I asked to see it. It was written
correctly, but her schema distortion led to her actually seeing the words “do not care
about you” instead of what I had written. Ask patients to restate your words in an
empathic confrontation if their reaction suggests that they are not being accurately
perceived.
The Avoidance Coping modes in Borderline personality disorder patients often get
stronger when they are confronted directly, even when it is empathic confrontation. We
discovered that vicarious learning experiences in the group could act to reinforce
patients’ connection with therapists and group members and set the stage for the other
steps of empathic confrontation. For example, when a patient watches therapists and
peers in a mode role play they sometimes get caught up in the emotion or action and
are drawn out of their Avoidant Coping mode. This increases their connection and
Jane was very resistant to even acknowledge having a Punitive Parent mode, despite
the therapists knowing that she had been “rented out” for sex as a child by her adoptive
parents. Jane’s Coping mode tended to be Angry Protector. She began a group session
on the Punitive Parent in the Angry Protector mode. In the past, when in this mode she
either charging angrily out of the group session or by becoming more and more angry
and pushing us all away even more completely. One day when we had planned to do
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some Punitive Parent work she charged into the session announcing in an angry voice
directed at Joan “I am not answering any questions today”. Joan acknowledged hearing
her. The group did a mode role-play in which a patient, Diana, played her own Punitive
Parent mode and Joan played the Good Parent defending the Vulnerable Child mode
(played by another patient). After a short intense interaction, Joan said “It is time for you
to leave, you old bitch. Get out of here and leave Diana alone!” (This language and
approach were appropriate for the patient’s experience and the severe abuse from her
adoptive mother). The rest of the group applauded and the patient playing her Punitive
Parent mode nodded smiling. Ida asked her “what did you like best of what Joan said in
your defense?” Jane, who had been sitting at the edge of her chair while the “banishing”
was going on, jumped in immediately “I loved it when you said “get out of here you old
bitch”. She followed this with talking about how she wished she could do that with her
mother, but was afraid to. Diana said, “I can understand that, I was scared at first. I liked
everything Joan said to her and the “old bitch” was the best, because that is really what
they are. I am sick of living with her in my head; I want her out for good.” As the session
continued Jane shared some more information about her childhood that neither the
group nor the therapists had heard before. She said that she had no idea that anyone
else could understand her pain and anger at her adoptive mother. This allowed Ida to
point out that she had started the session pushing us all away, which did not meet her
need for support and acceptance. Now she tried a new behavior, sharing some of her
pain and anger, which allowed connection with the group and her needs being met.
Of course, vicarious learning occurrences are much less predictable than therapist
initiated empathic confrontation. They fall into the category of “experiential moments”,
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which schema therapists are encouraged by Farrell & Shaw (2012) to be ready to seize
In groups, in addition to the therapist naming the problem behavior, vicarious learning
allows patients to observe what the old maladaptive behavior looks like and its negative
effects on others. Quite a few patients have told us that watching peers in the Self-
Aggrandizer or Bully-Attack mode had the biggest impact on them in terms of making a
The effects of a patient’s maladaptive behavior on the group cannot be ignored. Many
such behaviors involve violations of groundrules that are part of the stable and safe
environment that the therapists must maintain for the group as a whole. Depending
upon the mode the ground-rule breaking behavior is part of, therapists must
empathically confront the patient, set limits or a combination of both. The Avoidance
and Compliant Surrender Coping modes operate more quietly, with less effect on
negatively and elicit negative responses from the social environment. Of course, all
three styles of the Maladaptive Coping modes are dysfunctional in getting the individual
patient’s needs met and will be empathically confronted in the course of schema
therapy. Limited reparenting interventions with the Bully-attack mode consist of limit
empathic confrontation involves the therapist empathizing with the patients underlying
pain and need while challenging the behavior of the mode and setting limits on it in the
group. Patients in disruptive modes like Bully-attack are reminded of the group ground
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rules and warned that if the maladaptive mode behavior is not stopped, they must leave
the session for a time out or go to the designated safe space in the group room. The
“Safety corner” is a physical place in the group room that has pillows, blankets, stuffed
animals, etc. where patients can take a brief time out to get disruptive behavior or their
own distress level under control. It is an alternative to patient’s leaving the group and its
use is described fully in Farrell & Shaw (2012). Our position is that patients cannot be
expected to stop all maladaptive behavior just because they are in a group session, but
we do expect them to follow our instructions aimed at helping them get it under control
In group limit setting the therapist may need to stand up and physically block an
emotionally aggressive interaction between group members and focus first on just
stopping the interaction. A vocal tone which conveys warmth and genuineness is one
important medium for empathic confrontation, but so is a firm voice with increased
volume when limit setting is needed. Limit setting and empathic confrontation are used
in the group to insure that the inevitable conflict that arises leads to healing and growth
We refer to these maladaptive behaviors as “the elephant in the room”. Like a wild
elephant if it is ignored it may run rampant and disrupt or destroy everything. “Louder”
or the Angry or Impulsive Child modes require empathic confrontation and/or limit
setting from the therapist as in the examples of Jane, Ken and Jim. These modes,
particularly the Bully-Attack mode, are often too difficult for peers in group to
empathically confront. Limit setting must come from the therapists as it is unlikely to be
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accepted from a fellow patient in groups with personality disorder patients. It can be
difficult for some patients to accept the therapists in the limited reparenting role. It is
empathically confronting a male patient who spent a large percentage of the group’s
time in Self-aggrandizing mode behavior. Group members did not try to stop him and
the therapists’ attempts were not effective. The therapists were concerned about
offending him and were uncomfortable with the suggestions made in supervision. This
situation led to two of the group members dropping out, giving his monopolizing and
“running” the group as their reason. This dynamic did not change. Eventually all of the
group members dropped out prematurely except for the monopolizer. The entire group
was lost halfway through the planned course of treatment. The group members in a
debriefing session were angry with the therapists for not limiting this patient. They were
finally willing to express their negative feelings about him and the feeling that their
needs had not been met by the therapists. The conversation was productive and the
therapists ended it by asking if the members who had dropped-out would return. Their
answer was “no”. The absence of much needed empathic confrontation and limit setting
had gone on too long for them to trust that it would be any different if the group
resumed.
This is an extreme example, but we have seen some group members drop-out
for similar reasons in many groups. Empathic confrontation goes against social norms in
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that it directly identifies a person’s behavior as maladaptive and problematic for them
and at times for the group. Adults give this right to police, judges, maybe their bosses
and hopefully come to give it to their therapists. As therapists we are at times called
upon to violate social norms in our therapy role. Doing this takes some practice,
confidence and being aware of one’s own schemas being activated – for example,
intervention that can be particularly triggering and difficult for therapists. In the example
above, the therapists were significantly younger than the problematic patient, who was
closer to their parents’ age. That age disparity can trigger Surrender to approval seeking
or subjugation and prevent the therapist acting as a good parent to the patient. Such
schema activation and mode triggering for therapists can be more powerfully impacted
in groups where there are multiple patients who can remind us of others in our own lives
to be willing to point it out to the other therapist. Sometimes this is an opportunity for
some self-disclosure of one’s own reaction and at other times it will be important to find
a way to pull out of your Coping or even Vulnerable Child mode and access your own
appropriate and therapeutic for a group is the revelation that you are particularly
sensitive to a finger shaken in your face and that for a moment you were aware of your
regarding this behavior. A self-disclosure that would not be appropriate to the group
would be that one of the patients so reminded you of your mother that you felt a lot of
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animosity whenever interacting with her. The latter would be a topic for supervision, not
therapeutic self-disclosure.
Having the two therapists of GST is helpful for the combination of empathic
confrontation and limit setting. When both are both needed, one of the therapists can
take the empathic role and the other set limits. However, we think that it is important
that one therapist not always get the confrontation and limit setting role, but sometimes
In the first session of a new group of Borderline personality disorder patients Karen
abruptly stood up and threw her chair toward the therapist sitting across the room from
her saying “this is bullshit. I’m leaving.” The therapist sitting next to her got up also, and
quickly put the chair back saying “it is not OK to throw things here – that breaks our
groundrules. It is not safe”. The other therapist said “please don’t leave; I don’t want to
lose my connection with you. You are an important part of this group.” Karen sat down
looking dumbfounded at the second response. Later in the session she said how much
that statement had impacted her and that it was the reason she felt able to stay. Her
original overcompensating response of throwing the chair and starting to leave was
discussed in terms of its childhood origins and the mistrust-abuse schema being
activated in a meeting with new people. The response of the second therapist provided
the necessary empathic response and the response of the first therapist was a
necessary limit to keep the group groundrules and safety. Both were important for the
individual patient and for the group. This sort of therapist intervention would be difficult
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without two therapists. The need for two in group schema therapy is elaborated in
Farrell & Shaw (2012)and we have preliminary evidence that leaving a BPD group with
one therapist may impact treatment effect sizes negatively Reiss et al., 2013.
Another example of a two therapist empathic confrontation combined with limit setting
follows.
A large, physically imposing male patient would sometimes sit up very big and tall (up to
his full six foot- seven inch height) and say “yes, I am in the Bully mode and I am
sending my knives out”. This statement was delivered with a scathingly angry look
directed very clearly at other patients. One of the therapists held her arms out with
hands stretched blocking some of Jim’s view saying “it is not okay here to send out
knives at others.” The other therapist was sitting next to Jim and patted his arm saying
“we know you get in Bully-Attack mode when you feel rejected and I know how much
pain you have experienced from rejections going back to childhood”. Jim “hmph’d”, but
turned away from the patients he had glared at and looked at the therapist next to him
instead, leaning a bit toward her. As the group went on the glares of Jim recurred and
the nearby therapist again patted his arm saying, “I know that you are feeling afraid. I
am right here with you”. Jim again stopped glaring and Ida patted his arm again at times
through the session. Therapist one made the general point for all that this was an
example of a coping style that developed for protection in childhood, but now kept
others away and left Jim feeling rejected. The group was able to discuss the incident
that had hurt Jim and the members involved explained that they had meant no harm
and they apologized for his hurt feelings. With two group therapists, therapist one could
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set a limit, protect the group and later broaden the discussion to include other group
members experiences, while therapist two empathized with Jim’s pain, acknowledged
the origin of the maladaptive coping behavior and acted to meet some of his underlying
modality. The origin of the behavior must be explained to not just the target patient, but
also to the group and the correction behavior also includes the group. The empathic
confrontation of Jim also offered a vicarious learning experience for the rest of the group
and led to a productive discussion of their Maladaptive Coping modes. The empathic
accompanied some acknowledgment of the limit set and some acceptance of the
understanding and empathy being offered. Jim did not disagree and he did “draw back
his knives“. Interventions like these by the therapist serve a number of purposes. They
set a needed limit to protect the group as a whole, let the patient know his/her feelings
will be accepted, but aggressive behavior will not be, and they provide words for some
of the feelings that underlie these maladaptive coping modes. Sometimes the therapist
stating the patient’s underlying need is enough to have the group respond with
compassion and understanding. This can be very effective in getting through the
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effectiveness of this modality. They are part of the expansion of limited reparenting from
the dyad of individual ST to two “parents” and an entire “family” adding additional
members are sometimes more easily accepted than those coming from the “parent”
therapist. They can be perceived as less threatening and may not bring the risk of
stronger than that with the therapists. Therapists can facilitate peer empathic
confrontation, but cannot rely on them having the strength or skill to accomplish it.
When the group cannot empathically confront, the therapist “parent” must be the one to
Kris had a strong Detached Protector mode that at times took the form of a rather
prominent position in the center of the room with headphones on writing a letter. As the
the therapist called her name a number of times, escalating in volume to get over her
headphones, and asked what she was doing. She replied in a rather hostile tone “just
listening to music – it helps me concentrate”. Joan pointed out that it took calling her
name three times to get her attention and that she was also writing a letter. She
questioned how much help Kris could get from the session if she continued with the
behavior. Kris responded with more excuses and escalating hostility. Fortunately, after
the therapist acknowledged Kris’s behavior group members got involved empathically.
One of them said “but we cannot reach you or know you if you keep cutting us off like
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this”. Another said, “We want to know you. We have some of the problems you do also
and can work with you to get better.” Kris stopped writing, did not put the headphones
back on and told the group a little about a recent experience of rejection from her family.
Her response to the group was much more positive than to the therapist.
The group can be effective in empathically confronting the Avoidant Coping modes and
Attack mode, are more difficult for peers to empathically confront (see the examples of
group member in a Maladaptive Coping mode. Sometimes the group does not have
adequate information to accomplish Step three. At those times the therapists must take
the lead and obtain permission to share personal information with the group.
session.
Ken said he was in the Healthy Adult mode, but sat with arms crossed across his chest
and a blank expression on his face. When peers gave him feedback that they were
worried about him and his lack of participation, he stated “I don’t need any of you, we
off Ken with no effect. Since group members’ efforts at empathic confrontation were not
effective, the therapist had to step in. Ida asked him if he realized that he was pushing
everyone away with his disparaging comments. He said “yes”. She then asked if this
pattern of pushing others away was common and worked for him. Ken again answered
“yes”. Ida then became more confrontational (but still empathic as she acknowledged
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the origin of this protective behavior) by referring to information about him that the group
had: “so pushing everyone away back home, having no people in your life and feeling
empty had nothing to do with the three times that you swallowed antifreeze to kill
yourself”. With this intervention he responded almost tearfully, “Yes, my family does not
care about me, but the people here don’t care about me either.” He then told us about
hurt feelings from a disagreement with the same group members who were now
expressing concern about him. He had risked becoming close to them and now felt
rejected. His expression of feeling hurt (vulnerability) allowed them to discuss the
disagreement, resolve it and reaffirm their caring feelings for each other.
One caveat to this approach is that the group therapist should only use personal
information that a patient has shared with the group unless explicit permission is
obtained. In the above example the information had been shared previously. Many
occasions arise in group where a piece of personal information that has not been
shared with everyone is the biographical context of the maladaptive behavior that the
therapist wants to empathically confront. The context may also be important for the
group to understand and empathize with a mode reaction. In that situation you can ask
a patient if it is alright to share something with the group by vaguely referring to the
information in a manner the patient will understand but does not reveal much to the
group. For example, “John, would you be willing to tell the group about the experience
you had that relates to what we are talking about? With a patient you think might be
reluctant to share this himself or will not know exactly what you are referring to you
could say, “John, would you tell the group, or would you like me to tell them about your
related experience?” We rarely have patients say “no“, even though it is clear that they
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sometimes have little idea what experience of theirs we are referring to. Their
willingness to go along with what we suggest indicates that they trust us to have their
best interest at heart. It may also be that we intuitively do not try such interventions
exercise in which patients acknowledge each other’s strengths when we asked the
patients to return to that experience in imagery one patient, Annie, had a negative
reaction. The group had been particularly positive during the exercise, which was led by
Annie, a patient who is often in a leadership role. When Joan asked about the change
Annie declared, “It was all fake, you guys don’t know me”. She went on to question
many other things about the genuineness and value of the group. Joan knew that Annie
had just heard that her alcoholic father would not be visiting as promised for her 18th
birthday. They had reunited recently and she had discussed her love for him and hope
about this visit in a recent group session. In response to Annie’s declaration, the rest of
the patients went into Detached Protector or overt anxiety in the case of a patient with
comorbid Avoidant Personality Disorder. Joan saw this as an occasion for empathic
confrontation along with a request to share information. “Annie, I think something else is
going on here related to the news your received this morning. May I tell the group briefly
what happened?” Annie said “I don’t care”. After Joan told them, there was some
nodding from other patients and the tension in the room decreased. Annie went on to
first vent her Anger about her father in an Angry Child manner, then her Vulnerable
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Child hurt feelings about her father’s repeated abandonment and the repercussions of
this for her as an adolescent. This was information that she had not previously shared
with the group or therapists. Annie’s sharing stimulated the rest of the group to discuss
similar Vulnerable Child feelings related to abandonment themes with parents. The
group was able to close having moved back to a place of cohesiveness with everyone
understanding that Annie’s rejection of them had been the Angry Protector mode in
In group ST we have a rule of thumb that each of us tries twice with an empathic
confrontation before passing that task to the other therapist, who also tries twice. When
neither of us succeeds, we may need to move to limit setting as we did in the following
example. Part of limit setting can be asking that a patient return the respect that they
are given.
In session one we usually use the web connection exercise. On this occasion
one of the patients, Sue, would not take the yarn when it was thrown to her. Ida
employed our usual response, which is to wrap the yarn around their chair leg saying
that we do not want to lose our connection with her. Sue’s response was “well this yarn
doesn’t mean anything”. The second time the yarn came to her she again refused. Ida
passed the yarn over to the woman next to Sue while Sue complained about it crossing
over her. As the session continued Sue made a few negative comments directed at
other members that Joan had to limit by reminding her that it violated our groundrules. A
few of the members began to express annoyance with Sue’s attitude and one began to
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look fearful when Sue spoke. Ida used our “exaggerate empathy” intervention when Sue
said she felt no connection, saying “of course you don’t! You have never had a safe
connection, why would you just forget all of that and trust us.” Sue said “well, I don’t”.
This was Ida’s last effort for that session. We end the web exercise by giving each
patient a glass bead as a transitional object and to represent their membership in the
group. Sue refused the bead Joan attempted to give her. Joan said “We have respected
your decisions not to accept the yarn connection and to express your opinions about
what we were doing here. This time I would like you to respect me and accept what I am
giving you”. Sue responded, “Are you telling me that I have to take it?” Joan answered
“No, I am asking you to take it”. Sue said “why should I”. Joan said, “Well I know from
meeting with you that like all of the other group members you don’t have the
connections that you want in your life. I am concerned that if you keep rejecting the
connections we are offering you that situation will not change.” Sue responded, “OK I
will take it, but I still think it is silly”. Joan answered, “That is great – all I am asking you
to do is take the bead not to feel something about it other than what you do.” This was
an important intervention for Sue in terms of her position in the group. She was rapidly
drawing a lot of negative reactions in session one and could easily become a scapegoat
or a negative leader. Neither of these roles would have been therapeutic for her. If Sue
had not accepted the bead when she did, Joan would have said –“OK, I will just keep it
for you in case you want it sometime in the future.” She would not have kept pushing it.
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It is not always possible to get through the Angry Protector mode even with
accurate empathic confrontation. When efforts to reach out seem to fall on deaf ears, it
is good to keep in mind that the patient’s Vulnerable Child behind this angry wall is
listening, watching, and longing for connection and that the Angry Protector is assessing
for safety. A warm and compassionate stance and tone is still being registered and
having an impact. Later in the session the patient’s mode may be moved by the group’s
work, or he/she may be able to stay and let the work of the group go on around him/her
until he/she is able to join in or the session ends. Since the needs underlying the
Maladaptive Coping modes are those of the Vulnerable Child mode, it is important to
remain flexible and creative in finding ways to meet the need. For example, the
therapist might give the patient a pillow to hold or a shawl to wrap up in with the
acknowledgment that it is okay to take care of him or herself and that they are welcome
to join the group again more actively as they are able to. Our invitation to add protection
always includes the rest of the group as they may be reacting to the Angry Protector
presentation. Sometimes we ask the patient in Angry Protector (same thing with Bully
Attack mode) to go into a safety bubble, (see Reiss, Farrell & Shaw, 2013 for bubble
exercise and handouts) while the group goes on. We do this in the hope that some
added external safety may allow them to drop their protective mode some. Other
patients can move their physical proximity, or one of the therapists will sit next to or in
front of patients who feel frightened. We always try to remember that, anything we do
with one member in a group, demonstrates to the rest what will happen if they have a
that everyone can be helped to feel safe and that we will keep the group safe.
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A patient in the Bully-Attack mode needs empathic confrontation plus firm limits
on behavior that hurts the group. Verbal attacks cannot be allowed and if a patient
asked to leave the group temporarily. Safety and reinforcement concerns often must be
balanced by the therapist in making a decision about whether to accompany the patient
taking a time-out at least briefly. We rarely leave the group and if we do it is for not more
than 5 minutes. When the therapist returns, the group must be briefly informed, within
the bounds of confidentiality, about what happened. This is another situation where the
therapist needs to get the patient’s permission regarding what private information is
acceptable to be shared with the group. When the patient returns, he/she is expected to
wait for a break in the discussion and then acknowledge what has happened. If he/she
is no longer in Bully Attack mode, the underlying Vulnerable Child issue can be
acknowledged and responsibility taken for any residual negative effects on other
members (e.g. a sincere apology). Experiences like these are important emotional
punished and that the Vulnerable Child does not need the Bully-Attack mode to protect
them in an unhealthy way in the group. Sometimes a therapist sitting by a patient in the
Bully Attack mode can gently and empathically confront him/her by referring to the
feelings underneath the mode (e.g., fear or hurt) and remind the group as a whole of the
protective function of this mode, its need for limits and our willingness and ability to
provide them.
On rare occasions even firm empathic confrontation and limit setting fail. When this
occurs therapists, like good parents must sometimes do, may need to get help to
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maintain safety. In our inpatient borderline personality disorder groups, as a last resort,
we will get nursing staff help to physically remove a patient who will not stop a verbal or
physical attack and does not respond to empathic confrontation or limits from the
therapists. We have not had this occur in an outpatient setting, but if it did, we would
seek help from other clinical staff and security if necessary. We will take whatever
action is necessary to protect the group family with its “vulnerable children”. Patients
who leave the group temporarily due to behavioral transgressions are allowed to come
back and make peace with the group including a recommitment to the ground-rules.
They are expected to have a plan to prevent a recurrence of the unacceptable behavior.
It is reassuring to group members to see that behaviors that hurt others are limited by
the therapists and, at the same time, that the person is still valued, not labeled “bad”
and that the group does not give up on them or kick them out. For some patients, it is an
example of how “good parents” would have protected them from bullies in childhood.
This is one more emotional learning experience provided by the group due to its family-
like function.
These examples demonstrate the efficacy of having two therapists to maintain safety
and effectively manage the multiple modes and needs of patients in groups. Taking
whatever action is needed to maintain safety and the group’s boundaries is an important
therapist behavior as it demonstrates that the therapists will do what they said they
would, and that they are capable of keeping the group safe. It is important to follow all of
1. the Coping Mode and maladaptive behavior has been pointed out to the individual
2. the origin of the behavior has been identified, and the pain or fear empathized with
3. it is clear that this old behavior does not get the patient’s current need met,
4. the patient has made the decision that he/she wants to change their Coping mode
6. the steps of that correction have been identified and possibly practiced in the group.
Understanding the relationship between maladaptive behavior and Coping modes and
the biographical origins of the modes are what allows a group to tolerate the inevitable
times with when these behaviors occur in groups with patients with personality
which leads to group members feeling acceptance and belonging. It gives them a way
to understand their maladaptive coping behavior and make the decision to try new
behaviors that will more effectively meet their needs. As this chapter and the book
that all schema therapists must master. This chapter describes the aspects of Group
ST that make empathic confrontation more complex and challenging and the
and now experiential opportunities and corrective emotional experiences that Group ST
offers that can augment empathic confrontation and add to its effectiveness when they
are utilized.
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