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Pinsley's Response To Legal Review
Pinsley's Response To Legal Review
To:
• Board of Commissioners (BOC)
• Executive Philip Armstrong
• Solicator’s Office
LEGAL ADVICE
The Solicitor’s advice is a mix of legal facts and personal opinions, which can complicate our
understanding and decision-making process. It is important to delineate legal fact from opinion
for informed, unbiased decisions, especially concerning sensitive OCYS policies. By clearly
separating legal advice from personal views, we ensure that actions are legally sound and in our
community’s best interest.
The Solicitor’s letter states: “You [referring to the Board] have asked what role the Board of
Commissioners (BOC) might have in directing or setting policy for the operation of the County’s
Office of Children and Youth Services (OCYS)…”, our notes will highlight instances where the
Solicitor’s advice extends into opinions, which may lead to some confusion.
REFERRAL TO DHS
The Solicitor acknowledged the BOC’s referral of “The Cost of Misdiagnosis” report to DHS on
August 23. It’s crucial to note that the Controller’s Office initiated this referral the same day.
Further, State Senator Jarrett Coleman contacted DHS on October 2, 2023. We anticipate DHS’s
acknowledgment that this is a county matter.
ADVISORY BOARD
While the Solicitor emphasizes the Advisory Board’s role, the Controller asserts that the public
has already articulated their concerns. The BOC should act promptly, utilizing the Advisory
Board’s guidance in the implementation phase.
POLICY MAKING
Solicitor’s Statement on Policymaking Abilities of BOC:
• The Solicitor states: “The County may establish additional policies for OCYS if done after consultation
with the agency administrator and with approval of DHS,” further elaborating that “…the regulations
and bulletins [from DHS] in some instances set the floor or threshold for OCYS actions, and do not
preclude going beyond the minimum requirements.”
• Controller’s Response: The Solicitor confirmed that the BOC could implement a requirement for OCYS
to obtain a second opinion before or immediately after a child’s removal.
• The Solicitor continues: "While the BOC may consider such a policy [second opinion], the following
must be addressed by the BOC in so doing. Initially, because such a policy would likely not be
consistent with the MDIT goal referenced above of limiting the number of exams and interviews to
which a child may be subject..." (emphasis added) the solicitor then goes on to give his opinion on
how a policy should be enacted.
• Controller’s Response: When the Solicitor claims that getting a second medical opinion goes against
“minimizing” exams, he is giving his own personal take. This is not an objective legal opinion.
The Solicitor is interpreting the word “minimize” based on his own views. He is assuming his personal
definition is the only way to satisfy the goal of “minimizing.”
But reasonable people can disagree on what “minimizing” really requires in this situation. There are
no clear laws defining this term. The Solicitor has shifted from legal facts into his own subjective
opinion.
The public needs to understand when the Solicitor moves from objective legal advice to promoting
his own personal perspectives, that these are two different things. One is based on the law. The
other is just one person’s opinion.
Most importantly, if anyone disagrees with what “minimizing” means, that question should go
straight to the Department of Human Services (DHS). The Solicitor’s office should not decide what
satisfies “minimizing” - that’s for DHS to advise.
The Controller’s office recommends making this query to DHS public to promote transparency and
comprehensive understanding, ensuring diverse perspectives are considered. The critical point is
that reasonable people can disagree on what satisfies “minimizing.” The goal of ensuring our
children and families are safe should drive the policy.
• Controller’s Response: This confirmation aligns with the need for an unbiased, objective examination
of the current policies and procedures to enhance child welfare and family support systems.
Freida S. Baker,
Executive Director
The Child Welfare Policy and Practice Group
313 North Hull St., Montgomery, AL 36104
Office: 334-264-8300
In addition:
1. Engage with SEIU: Given SEIU’s readiness to engage, as expressed in a recent commissioner meeting,
the BOC should swiftly and publicly extend an invitation for SEIU to delineate their preferred mode
of participation in pertinent discussions.
2. Issue a letter of non-pursuit in the Orion case: The County retracted its child abuse allegations
against the parents following an investigation and court case. The investigation crossed a 60-day
threshold from the initial Childline report, it automatically received an “indicated” classification in
the Childline registry. This classification labels the parents as child abusers without formal findings, a
judge’s decision, or a jury’s verdict. Although the County has abandoned its claims, the parents must
now engage in another legal fight to erase their names from the registry.
Statistics indicate that ninety percent of caregivers successfully appeal, suggesting that the parents
can demonstrate their innocence. Currently, the Solicitor’s office maintains the position of keeping
the parents’ names on the Childline registry; we are keen to understand the reasoning behind this
stance.
The County should instruct the Solicitor’s office to issue a letter of non-pursuit in the Orion case,
avoiding the unnecessary expenditure of taxpayer dollars on a likely losing battle. Reviewing other
“indicated” cases where the County withdrew the case, yet parents are still labeled as abusers, could
also be beneficial. Adopting this fact-based strategy can lead to the resolution of cases without
additional litigation.
The Solicitor’s reply underscores the Controller’s inclination to engage an independent external
legal counsel for his department. Addressing the BOC’s query about its role in influencing the
policies of the County’s Office of Children and Youth Services (OCYS), it might have been
prudent for the Solicitor to consider stepping back, given the close relationship between their
office and OCYS. Although likely rooted in a desire to be helpful, the current legal guidance
interweaves objective data with personal viewpoints that could potentially deter the Board
from proactive measures. An unbiased perspective from an external source could offer clear,
unbiased insights, facilitating informed decisions without seemingly discouraging specific
actions.
Sincerely,
Mark Pinsley
County Controller