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2023 Cays Park Options Survey Answers To Free Response Questions
2023 Cays Park Options Survey Answers To Free Response Questions
Question 8. If you'd like, please share any thinking related to your answers to the two
questions above (6. and 7.).
The 25% plan is preferable as it provides more activities for a larger variety of interests
amongst users. The Park's current emphasis on large grass fields is non-sustainable and
wasteful for our changing climate. Grass is unnatural and an environmentally unsound
practice in a Mediterranean or Desert climate. Additionally, trees and shrubs are
capable of decreasing heat by 6ºF.
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Finally, a Park is different from an "Athletic Complex." Allowing one special interest
group (soccer) to dominate the park's acreage and most valuable hours of the day (when
kids are home from school and parents home from work), is discriminatory to everyone
else. It's time to return the sports fields into a park that is usable by all residents and
visitors with multiple areas of interest.
2. only open space in Coronado, keep it open
26. The pictures do not reveal the entire concept of the park.
Please stop the soccer dominance and disruption at the Cays Park. Accommodate
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soccer at Tidelands where they were intended in the planning for Coronado .
28. I would like to see a bigger dog park
I believe the way you present the questions is misleading based upon knowledge that the
29. designers and city have asked for feedback meaning that the 4 options are simply ideas
and they really want feedback on the amenities.
I think there are elements of each that work and elements of each that do not work. I
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don’t like any of the 4 options as they are presented.
One group/club should not ever have more use of a public park. I think 25% of the park
31. use for that group or any other group is very reasonable, as there’s others public parks
in Coronado, they can also be utilized.
I cannot choose any of those options because everyone of them as shown will cause me
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to lose my ocean view
The green space that is designated for soccer is multipurpose for other venues, such as
33. concerts, outdoor theater and other community activities. All the plans also have
additional parking which helps with soccer activities. Love the dog park design as well.
No more soccer
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The park should be for residents
35. Need to accommodate all residents and demographics in Coronado, not just soccer.
61. Option 50 provides space for sports and also space for residents to walk along nature
I like option 75, just do not add too many parking spaces, we are fine as we are now,
please divide the park, create a small zone for small dogs to play separated from big
dogs, also we have many seniors that could favor from built in aparatus to excercise
near the kids playgrown like the ones you have at Tidelands park to excercise. And
some benches for them to rest when they are walking. Another batroom area in the area
where you will place the pickleball courts, and more drinking water dispensers.* Also
62. very important to request the city for permanent signs entering the Villages that state
*CAYS RESIDENTS PARKING ONLY. So players and visitors respect our small
spaces we have designated for our homes, as Cays residents, we have the streets and
parking spaces very limited in sizes, not for cars entering to cruise around in high
speeds looking in a hurry to park to see their games and we have seniors walking and
kids playing outside our homes and not happy that they drive in a hurry by our homes.
Thank you for asking us for our opinion.
63. Leave the park as it is now
Its a public park, not for private clubs. It would’turn out the park into a soccer place and
64. residents will not be able to enjoy it. We, residents maintain the parks with our fees and
taxes
My Family is really concerned that the designs we all see show moving some sort of
court in front of our home blocking our ocean view which is the REASON we bought
this home. It’s the reason the Mires bought this home originally and requested the
reverse floor plan. This is what caught our eye when we viewed it. Our home has a
reverse floor plan so our common spaces with family enjoy the view of the water. If
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you guys push any courts any further right from where they are currently you will block
the main reason we bought this home.
Courts require lighting and typically high fences. The lights will be shining into our
backyard and house at night and surely the fences will block our field of view to the
ocean.
Please please please. Less courts more green spaces and can we explore not pushing
new courts further right. Or not adding more lights and fences to them if you do build
them.
The plans all take more green space and turn it into concrete "play" space, pushing
courts into the view paths closest to the ocean. This fundamentally is a terrible idea for
all homes that have a view point to the water. These courts require large scale bright
lighting in which will impede directly on all of our views in Bahama, especially ours at
24 Bahama. Our view is directly towards the water, this is the main reason we decided
to invest in this family home of ours. We have a reverse floor plan so that our views are
enjoyed in our common spaces & kitchen all day long. Our views will not only be taken
away of beautiful green space but of the dunes and the water with adding in courts,
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lighting, high fences, and infrastructure. In CA we are limited in our green space and to
take this away with a huge additional footprint of courts is a negative impact on our
environment. We should be considering Dark Sky Compliant lighting for all homes and
any infrastructure in our community. Quiet, zen, gardens, water features, meditation
areas are what are needed at this ocean side community, not loud courts. Please
consider this approach. We are full time residents that need to be heard and understood.
Our investment in this home would be severely financially with taking away our ocean
views.
We moved to the Cays because of this park. When I first looked at my home, listed
over July 4th weekend in 2015, there was a soccer tournament at the field as I was
viewing my future home in Trinidad. The field with so many children and pleasant
activities left an indelible impression on me. Every time there is a tournament or
children playing in the field, I feel blessed to live in the Cays. Why spend so much
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money to ruin a beautiful thing? Also, I should add that I have children and neither of
them play soccer.
No I dont want to make this place like some cookie cutter orange county suburb. Please
leave it alone!!!
There is an ability to have a park and soccer too. But to have the entire park taken over
68. by soccer all weekend seems inconsiderate. Not to mention the over whelming parking
and trash soccer contributes to our beautiful community is unwelcomed.
69. reduce soccer fields. no pond. keep the road the same. plant trees. benches for sunset.
I do not want any change made to the park that would add trees or move the courts. We
love our home for the ocean view and all of the proposed plans would impact our view. I
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also do not like the idea of creating a space that would invite a lot more activity in the
Cays. There is already a ton that goes on.
If we are going to make a basketball court, it would be great to have a built in indoor
soccer field built into the court. This would allow kids and adults can play soccer and
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shoot on a goal without having to have one of the goals set up because the goal is
always there. A basketball/soccer multicourt.
72. The 25% looks like more fun!
Cays residents are denied use of the Cays Park on too many week days and weekends
73. due to soccer practice and tournaments. Traffic, parking, and noise on tournament
weekends are excessive. A small fraction of tournament attendees reside in Coronado.
The 25% option provides usability of the park for a much wider swatch of residents.
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Currently there is too much soccer use. It keeps residents from using the park.
75. The 25% option looks best, but I think the arrangement could be improved.
111. We need to protect the maximum amount of green space. Regardless of the soccer use.
Soccer fields for a private club that generates hundreds of thousands in tournament
revenue should be paid for by the club. This is park space for the general public in a
112. community where most homes have limited yard areas. The addition of 8 pickle ball
courts has created a parking shortage. The soccer tournaments and program will
increase that parking demand. The parking should be addressed.
113. All space should be public and private clubs should pay the city for usage.
Richard Willson
The current multi-use approach and facilities of the Coronado Cays park seem to
accommodate the needs of the City and Cays residents adequately and clearly that
should be the primary consideration.
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The hurried approach to approval by some gives the impression of serving special
interests and not the general Coronado residents. This should never occur.
The revision of the park would likely provide additional costs for local residents. This
should obviously only occur if time was taken to make sure that any park changes
clearly represent the interests of the majority of local tax-paying residents.
This survey emphasizes the "private club" aspect of soccer usage. I find that somewhat
115. misleading as the large number of Coronado and other youth served by the park is
deemphasized here.
keeping the ancient design elements shown old blue and yellow nautical dates us - like
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at the entrance - extremely disappointing. SO DATED
…seems like you’re trying to spend money to improve an area that is fine as is…except
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for the OVERUSE by soccer teams…
118. I'm not a big fan of soccer
Maximum use of space, no water or sand elements, and kid’s play area makes the most
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sense overall.
120. Retain the dog park size
Fitness areas for sports may include basketball, tennis/pickleball; softball; volleyball;
horseshoes, etc., but should be balanced with passive recreation.
3. I like the idea of Cays blvd as one lane, with a dedicated bike lane and roundabouts
I believe that Cays Park should be a community park. I would support modest
improvements. Schmidt Design did a wonderful job of providing possible elements.
But, we were instructed at the "reveal meeting" to think of the options as a menu to
choose from. Each option presented things I liked and did not like, so it is impossible to
choose. For example, in the 25% soccer fields, the tennis courts were moved and a
4. water feature added, neither of which I would like. And although the layout of the 75%
speaks more to me, it looks like the tennis courts have been moved and I do not see
much in the way of the sitting and walking areas. And, I strongly suggest keeping the
sports areas together in the Northern ends of the park. Open space combined with some
walking and natural landscaping could be in the South. Also, please do not change the
streets and do not add roundabouts. Thank you for soliciting my input.
5. more tree, less focus on dogs and soccer
I would discourage use by non Cays residents for security reasons AND because It can
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be a nuisance with an overflow of non Cays residents .
The park currently is too lopsided to a private club. It needs to be a public park that
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serves local Coronado property owners.
Please fix the irrigation issues and leave the park alone. If you do anything, please don’t
wreck the ocean views that we bought these houses for. Amenities all sound fantastic,
but all it will do is pull people who don’t live into the Cays into the neighborhood,
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increasing congestion and causing far more headaches than the additional amenities
would be worth to those of us who live here. There are so many more places our tax
dollars could go that would be far more impactful than these plans.
I think a new park design would be great for the community so long as it’s not
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singularly focused and takes the entire community into account .
Park should be designed for Coronado resident use, not controlled by private soccer
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club.
I am so excited for improvement. I feel like this piece of land is so beautiful and just
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not capitalized enough for the residents that love this area.
The playground needs to be upgraded. It is small, falling apart, and not great for kids.
12. We have two small kids and want to walk to a park we can use, with a water fountain
that works, safe equipment, shade, etc. I am really excited to get the park updated!
As the park is significantly improved there must be a maintenance, repair and replace
13. budget that will assure the quality and aesthetic of the park. This must be sustained
going forward.
14. Thank you for this opportunity to express my opinion!
I would love to have different areas to walk to with my kids and dog, like rotate from a
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garden and nature area to the existing playground to a view area to the dog park.
There is no need for some grand re-do of the park. Dont need to spend the money - it
16. currently serves its purpose and has significant flexible space. And "grant money" is till
public money that you are spending.
Soccer should not be the only sport consideration. I strongly believe that this park
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should be for the residents not for outside clubs/sports or organizations.
Please consider residents concerns. We live with the soccer problems. Our enjoyment
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of our home is diminished by thr overwhelming soccer presence. Thank you.
19. I could not see the plans to provide an answer for number 9
I don't believe a private citizen should be allowed to submit survey results. We do not
have quality control on results. I believe each village director should survey their areas
for "yes I like, no I don't like or indifferent" on each of the amenities to have accurate
20. representation of their villages to submit a letter on behalf of the CCHOA to the City of
Coronado. I also think that mixing Port land (Tidelands park) is not always a viable
option; plus the park here allows for many Cays kids to be able to get to activities vs.
having to be driven to Tidelands (on the opposite side of Coronado).
This survey comes across as extremely biased. It is obvious of the survey creator’s
opinion, which will lead to skewed results. Surveys extended to all residents should be
impartial and general if you truly want a complete picture of all residents’ responses. I
am a soccer and baseball mom. I do not own a dog so that part doesn’t really apply to
me. The short sighted solution of “move the soccer to Tidelands” neglects one area-
parking. Because of non-resident Tidelands gatherings, hospital employee parking, the
21. Marriott, and no parking areas such as 3rd Avenue, there are not options for additional
parking. I encourage you to try and find a parking space on a busy Saturday when there
is soccer, baseball, football, softball, team pictures, birthday parties, skate park, and
other events going on. Parents already circle for quite a while and many illegally park
and risk consequences. Adding three fields means adding upwards of 100 extra cars at a
time. There may be field space, but quite frankly there isn’t parking space. It’s not
feasible to have all families bike-some have younger kids, some come from farther
away, and most have gear. The option to move to Tidelands is clearly coming from
citizens that do not visit that park during the busy times, and do not have kids that play
sports there. Because I am a soccer parent, I visit the Cays frequently. What I DON’T
see is residents. I see dog owners. Baseball players. Soccer games. And kids playing. I
took pictures at noon this Sunday. It was a beautiful day. There was exactly one soccer
game, going on at the far field by the courts. I saw a few dog owners. A dad using the
baseball area with his kids. And zero residents using the grassy areas, the paths,
walking, or sitting on benches. Contrary to popular belief, the fields are not used by
soccer all day, every day. It’s a few hours each evening during the week and a few
hours on the weekends. There were no sports for the majority of Sunday there
yesterday. Plenty of time and space for residents to walk, relax, sit, watch the sunset,
etc. In addition, the Cays residents I know (I know quite a few) sit and relax on the
canals or use Grand Caribe. Will they use the new area if changed, that remains to be
seen. I feel these pushes are coming from a minority of residents that face the soccer
area, and is not a true reflection of the majority of Cays residents. At the very least I
disagree with a survey intended to gauge all resident opinions, while strongly leading
them towards a desired response.
In reference to the dog park area. We do need something like Boxwood hedges
outlining the dog area that would keep the dogs in and from running into other areas or
the street.
Also, placement of garbage cans, they should never be put next to picnic tables,
benches, etc…. No one wants to smell garbage or dog poop while they’re eating.
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More shade is needed and water fountains accessible for two legged and four-legged
Also, about the item about lowering the wall height. Dogs in the past have jumped over
the existing wall along the dog park area ending up right next to the highway, which is
dangerous for everyone!!
The park is currently used by many residents every day. I am in the park twice a day
with my dog and consistently hear how nice the park is as it is. I don’t think we need to
make huge changes just small cosmetic repairs and changes that uplift the park but not
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revamp it. I also believe that line of sight from homes in the Cays must be considered in
all
planning.
I believe the park is overdue for major updates and the designs are a great starting
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point.
25. Thanks for the survey.
Don't you dare try to change Cays Blvd to 2 lanes. Don't connect the bike path to the
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park.
The original Cays park field was designed as an open space, UN-programmed for lots
27. of activities and flexibility. All the options were way too programmed and need another
option with even less programmed area.
28. Soccer should not dictate what Cays residents need
Less is always more. Soccer is a good activity for the youth here and for the
29. community, and cleaning up playground, bathrooms, and enhancing the natural beauty
of the area without more stress on our natural resources. Good luck!
30. Change is good
I believe new bathrooms would be good. A couple more trees. I strongly disagree with
a separate entrance from the bike path as I believe it will lead to an increase in theft as
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it will provide a quick un monitored exit from the Cays. A separate bike entrance is a
terrible idea and I am a cyclist.
32. Love the idea of improvement for the residents, not the outside soccer players
Non Contained Dogs off leash are becoming a huge liability for the city. Kids being
chased, elderly folks having trouble walking around them on the sidewalks. Both soccer
33. and baseball players have dogs interfering with play. The money spent to create a
barrier will save the city money needing to be spent on lawsuits due to uncontrolled
dogs.
Everyone in favor of lowering the wall for better ocean view please know that means
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louder traffic noise to residents and park goers.
Three Priorities: 1) Keep Cays Blvd 4 lanes; 2) The multi-use space should be large
35. enough so soccer and other users can rotate their orientations to mitigate high-use areas;
3) Adding lighting reduces use flexibility and is to be avoided.
The park is wonderful as it is. It's a great facility, and close proximity to the Coronado
36. FC access factored into why we purchased our house in the cays. Tidelands parking is a
disaster. More soccer fields would make parking even worse.
Please understand the Cays home owners should have the major say in this park, as
37. they live in the Cays not in the Village or across the bridge. We drive by it daily, and
endure the soccer parking in front of our homes.
I find it disturbing there is even a question on here about how to limit outside people
from using a “public” park. This is similar entitled point of view that gone us in trouble
38. with the Port District regarding the Cays Cottages. very elitist. Additionally, Tidelands
is owned by the Port so City of Coronado has no jurisdiction over that property and
how it is used without having to go thru the Port
Doing the right thing here is important and what seems right is a balanced approach. To
allow club league soccer to dominate the parks usage is an abuse and at the expense of
residents of the Cays. One easy way to come to that conclusion is to simply substitute
“Cays Park”with “Spreckels Park” in your proposal. Would we really want club soccer
dominating or monopolizing the use of Spreckels Park at the expense of Villagers?
39. Then why do it to residents in the Cays?
Aren’t we all family?
Cays Park should lean towards benefiting the closest residents, Cays residents. Luckily,
we have a sports area in Tidelands Park. Let’s make use of it for soccer, baseball,
football and other field sports.
40. More lighted pickleball courts
47. I think the park is fine the way it is. The only change necessary is more tennis courts
48. I would like this to park to improve their kids area and have more shade
No more parking spaces, we have enough parking all over the boulevard on both sides,
we need the boulevard wide as it is now with 2 lanes each side and its parking lane,
divide dog park for little and big dogs, create and area to excercise for seniors near the
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kids playground, add another bathroom area, more drinking water stations, more
benches, not too many trees, basic low maintenance bushes and trees, add permanent
signs entering the Villages stating *Residents parking only, please. Thank you.
50. Would love to keep the green area.
78. Keep 🐶 park the way it is !! Use the other portion for improvements. Let It Be !!
I am most concerned with the changing the lanes and medians on the street. It feels like
that was designed without taking into account that there is a neighborhood full of cars
79. and bikes that need to safely and efficiently drive out of the Cays. The designs that
change the lanes etc seems to be geared for the park users not the neighborhood. It
certainly doesn't take into account that there is a firehouse in the middle of the park.
Trees by the sidewalks or any trees that obstruct views should not be allowed. We need
80. to change the date of November 7th to a later date. We are being railroaded, and this is
not how it should work.
This survey with filled with leading questions and confusing . I did answer it to make
sure that some other the other side was represented. Short of the water issue, I see
virtually no reason to change the park with the exception of updating the restroom,
updating the children’s playground equipment (possibly fencing in) and fencing in the
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dog park. The park, the pickleball courts, and the tennis courts are used regularly for a
few hours but never all day long. There is more than enough availability for all to
enjoy. Additionally there is no reason a question has to be answered when there is no
adequate response available
Sufficient space for soccer is important to our family, and to many families of
Coronado. The Coronado Football Club may be a “private” club, but that is because of
how the soccer federation in Southern California is organized. It cannot be formerly
affiliated with the city. However, the CFC is a huge part of the lives of many Coronado
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families. It is easily the sport with the highest rate of participation among families
throughout the community. Tidelands is also already used every night of the week for
soccer, so it’s unclear to me how much Cays soccer could shift to Tidelands to balance
the field usage.
83. Statements about soccer use are biased and wrong. Not honest!!!
Public parks should never be used for competitive sporting events. Thanks for doing
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this!
I am ok with the way it is currently set up, except for the gathering areas, restrooms
85. (embarassing!) And lack of pickleball courts (4 more please) I use the park are
everyday and have for over 30 years.
86. None.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with the park as it is. All of these designs are
87. wasting money trying to fix something that is fine the way it is. There are better uses
for the city’s money than redesigning a beautiful park.
We should be spending our money on our streets, electrical wires above ground (put
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under ground) and improving what is more of a priority than the park. The park works
well for most with exception of soccer who continue to dominate and take over "free"
space for us dog owners and just being out. I think this can wait and prioritize
something else that benefits more Coronado residents as the Cays park is not used by
all so find something that everyone can find satisfaction in and use our money to that
option.
89. Separate dog park with fencing is necessary.
90. More shaded areas and views of the ocean would be amazing!
Richard Willson
The current multi-use approach and facilities of the Coronado Cays park seem to
accommodate the needs of the City and Cays residents adequately and clearly that
should be the primary consideration.
91. The hurried approach to approval by some gives the impression of serving special
interests and not the general Coronado residents. This should never occur.
The revision of the park would likely provide additional costs for local residents. This
should obviously only occur if time was taken to make sure that any park changes
clearly represent the interests of the majority of local tax-paying residents.
The issue of bike lane access to the park is a security issue. There is some oversight,
and therefore some crime deterrence, at the main Cays gate re people and vehicles
entering and exiting the Cays. I see no need to grant bicycles their own entrance to the
neighborhood as it is easy for them to travel a few feet further and enter through the
92. Main Gate.
I am generally happy with the park as it is currently configured. Priorities for me are 1)
to maintain the ability of Coronado and other youth to use the park and 2) to fence the
dog park while leaving it the current size.
Would want to make sure disruption/construction is done by big company to get it done
93. as fast as possible and not penny pinch - the entrance situation was so ridiculous. And
done in our prime months with windows open (noise) took way longer..etc
94. Good luck!
While the park is open to all citizens of San Diego and Coronado and Imperial Beach,
the truth of the matter is that it will be primarily utilized by Cays residents and people
utilizing it for sports and picnicing. There is too much dominance of soccer orientation
95. which gluts the park with people and parking and makes it very unenticing for Cays
residence. Too much sound and debris and the streets are lined with autos. Bottom line
is that it should be more of a nature park with some space for sports activities but other
space for dog walking, people's leisure and picnicing.
96. I appreciate your time and energy to ask these questions to the community.
Thank you for your efforts. For 20 years, we’ve regularly utilized the open-feel of the
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park, including the full court basketball court. Years ago I was the one who convinced
the city to put in basketball court lights. Daily, I run/jog in the park. We regularly walk
our dog in the park. We prefer the city utilize Tidelands Park for soccer since there is
ample parking there and space to accommodate. We are being overwhelmed with
soccer, mostly people from outside of Coronado. Many people disregard no parking
signs within the Cays. We really enjoy the current wide open feel of the park. Thank
you for your consideration. Dr. Welch
Coronado Cays is a private residential area, it is not a place for people who do not want
to pay for state park parking. The park at the cays should be primarily for residents who
own homes here, and pay high HOA expenses as well as high taxes. It should remain a
98. peaceful place to live, and we should not have to worry about outsiders in our
neighborhood. It's bad enough in the summer and Hollidays that we can't even find
parking in front of our own homes. We should not allow a private club to take over any
part of a public park...and the public park should be for local residents.
Can the grassy area by the Montego Bay kids area be fenced in for dogs so that there
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are two dog parks that can accommodate both sides of the Cays?
I am opposed to any changes to the park that will act as a “magnet” to non-residents of
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the Coronado community.