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Committee Input No. 60-NFPA 72-2013 [ New Section after 3.3.285.3 ]

3.3.286 Supervising Station Signal Identification.


3.3.286.1* Grouped Signals (Zoned) Identification. Signals that are grouped as alarm,
trouble, supervisory or other types of grouped signals that are transmitted as the grouped
identifier to the supervising station.
3.3.286.2 Point Identification. Individual devices within a protected premises with
discrete identification that transmits that identification to the supervising station.
A.3.3.286.1 Grouped Signals (Zoned) Identification. A defined group of devices within a
protected premises that can include device types, areas, floors or other commonalities in
order to convey information to a supervising station.

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Submittal Date: Mon Jul 15 08:52:37 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee NFPA 72 does not address how individual point identification signals are to be
Statement: handled versus grouped signal (zoned) identification. More and more systems are
being installed with individual point identification monitoring and the supervising
station needs direction on how to handle these signals. Further, first responders have
noted that more information aids them in assessing a situation and formulating an
emergency response plan. See also CI 61.
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Committee Input No. 204-NFPA 72-2013 [ New Section after 7.7.1.4 ]

7.7.1.5 Emergency Communication system and fire alarm system as-built plans and other
related documentation shall be permitted to be maintained together, including the
appearance of both systems on the same drawings. (SIG-ECS)

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Submittal Date: Fri Sep 13 13:18:21 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee This new paragraph is incorporated from Chapter 24 into Chapter 7 as


Statement: documentation. It is the intent to tag the section as SIG-ECS to keep it their
responsibility.
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Committee Input No. 65-NFPA 72-2013 [ Section No. 10.4.5.1 ]

10.4.5.1
Initiating devices of the manual or automatic type shall be selected and installed so as to
minimize nuisance and unintentional alarms.

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Submitter Full Name: Richard Roux


Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc
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Submittal Date: Fri Jul 19 08:27:10 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee The TC deletes 10.4.5.1 because the language is unenforceable and the
Statement: concepts are adequately addressed in Chapter 17.
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Committee Input No. 159-NFPA 72-2013 [ Sections 21.5.1, 21.5.2 ]

Sections 21.5.1, 21.5.2


21.5.1
The conditions monitored and displayed shall include, but are not limited to, the following:

(1) Availability of main and emergency power to operate the elevator(s), elevator
controller(s), and machine room (if provided) ventilation
(2) * Status of the elevator(s), including location within the hoistway, direction of
travel, and whether they are occupied
(3) Temperature and presence of smoke in associated lobbies and machine room (if
provided)

21.5.2
The conditions shall be displayed on a standard emergency services interface complying
with Section 18.11 .

Supplemental Information

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Attachment_for_CI_159.docx

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Submittal Date: Wed Sep 11 11:31:56 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee These sections are deleted to correlate with the requirements of ASME 17.1 -
Statement: 2013. Also delete A.21.5.1(2) see attached.
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Committee Input No. 160-NFPA 72-2013 [ Section No. 21.6.1 ]

21.6.1 Elevator Status.


Where one or more elevators are specifically designated and marked for use by occupants
for evacuation during fires, they shall comply with all of the provisions of Sections Section
21.5 and 21. 6.

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Submittal Date: Wed Sep 11 12:06:48 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The change is made to correlate with the 2013 edition of ASME A17.1.
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Committee Input No. 61-NFPA 72-2013 [ New Section after 26.2.1 ]

26.2.1.5 Alarm signals that are required to be transmitted shall be identified either by
grouped signals (zoned) or individual point identification.
26.2.1.5.1* Subsequent grouped alarm signals (zoned) or individual point signals shall be
immediately retransmitted to the communications center.
A.26.2.1.5.1 Some first responders have found that more information provided to them
before arriving on scene is vital to understand and help develop their response plan. For
example, if a fire has occurred and spreads to bio-hazardous material, explosive materials
etc. the response plan will be dramatically modified. By provided details regarding
subsequent signals, fire responders can utilize the details to assist them being more
efficient in their response to threats.

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Submittal Date: Wed Jul 17 13:14:26 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee NFPA 72 does not address how individual point identification signals are to be
Statement: handled versus grouped signal (zoned) identification. More and more systems are
being installed with individual point identification monitoring and the supervising
station needs direction on how to handle these signals. Further, first responders have
noted that more information aids them in assessing a situation and formulating an
emergency response plan. The proposed new material is intended to be added after
the material proposed in FR 13.
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Committee Input No. 39-NFPA 72-2013 [ New Section after 26.2.8 ]

26.2.9 Retransmission of Signals.


The methods of retransmitting alarm, supervisory and trouble signals from a supervising
station to a communications center shall include any of the following methods:
(1) A dedicated circuit that is independent of any switched telephone network. This circuit
shall be permitted to be used for voice or data communications.
(2) A one-way (outgoing only) telephone at the remote supervising station that utilizes the
public-switched telephone network. This telephone shall be used primarily for voice
transmission of alarms to a telephone at the communications center that cannot be used
for outgoing calls.
(3) A private radio system using the fire department frequency, where permitted by the fire
department.
(4) Other methods accepted by the authority having jurisdiction.

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Submittal Date: Wed Jun 26 10:56:51 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee The proposed change allows for a single section in the general requirements to
Statement: address the methods of retransmission of signals. It is not intended that this replace
existing 26.2.9.
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Committee Input No. 56-NFPA 72-2013 [ Section No. 29.10 ]

29.10 Maintenance and Tests.


Fire-warning equipment shall be maintained and tested in accordance with the
manufacturer’s published instructions and per the requirements of Chapter 14.
29.10.1 Installation, inspection and testing for household fire alarm systems and single-
and multiple-station alarms shall be documented as required in Figure 29.10.1.

Supplemental Information

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new inspection, testing form for
RESIDENTIAL_INSPECTION_TESTING_FORM_2_.docx
household

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Submittal Date: Fri Jun 28 10:09:00 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee Currently there is no installation, inspection, and testing report for single and
Statement: multiple station alarms and household fire alarm systems. This form would provide a
means of standard data collection at the time of installation and at regular testing
and inspection intervals.
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Committee Input No. 303-NFPA 72-2013 [ Section No. A.7.8.2 ]

A.7.8.2
Examples of completed record of completion forms are shown in Figure A.7.8.2(a) through
Figure A.7.8.2(f), and a risk analysis checklist form can be found in Figure A.7.8.2(g).
Figures 7.8.2(g) through 7.8.2(l) are sample forms intended to reflect the general
information that should be provided as part of a system inspection and test report, but are

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not intended to mandate a specific format for the report. A report format customized to the
specific system configuration, devices, appliances, and system functions being tested
meets the intent of the requirement.
Figure A.7.8.2(a) Example of Completed System Record of Completion.

Figure A.7.8.2(a) Continued

Figure A.7.8.2(a) Continued

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Figure A.7.8.2(b) Example of Completed Emergency Communications System


Supplementary Record of Completion.

Figure A.7.8.2(b) Continued

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Figure A.7.8.2(b) Continued

Figure A.7.8.2(c) Example of Completed Power Systems Supplementary Record


of Completion.

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Figure A.7.8.2(c) Continued

Figure A.7.8.2(d) Example of Completed Notification Appliance Power Panel


Supplementary Record of Completion.

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Figure A.7.8.2(e) Example of Completed Interconnected Systems Suplementary


Record of Completion.

Figure A.7.8.2(f) Example of Completed Deviations from Adopted Codes and


Standards Supplementary Record of Completion.

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Figure A.7.8.2(g) Risk Analysis Checklist.

Figure A.7.8.2(g) Continued

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Submitter Full Name: Christopher Coache


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Submittal Date: Thu Sep 26 12:10:35 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee SIG-FUN: The added text at the end of A.7.8.2 addresses the Record of Testing
Statement: Forms and is under the purview of SIG-TMS. However, the reference to Figure
A.7.8.2(g) is causing confusion and it is suggested that the CC review this and
possibly relocate Figure A.7.8.2(g) to a different Chapter 7 section. SIG-TMS: The
added annex test makes it clear that report formats customized to the specific
system being inspected and/or tested meet the intent of the reporting requirements
and it is not mandated that the specific NFPA forms be used.
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Public Input No. 190-NFPA 72-2013 [Section No. A.7.8.2]

Committee Input No. 361-NFPA 72-2013 [ Section No. A.7.8.2 ]

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A.7.8.2
Examples of completed record of completion forms are shown in Figure A.7.8.2(a) through
Figure A.7.8.2(f), and a risk analysis checklist form can be found in Figure A . 7.8.2(g).
Figure A.7.8.2(a) Example of Completed System Record of Completion.

Figure A.7.8.2(a) Continued

Figure A.7.8.2(a) Continued

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Figure A.7.8.2(b) Example of Completed Emergency Communications System


Supplementary Record of Completion.

Figure A.7.8.2(b) Continued

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Figure A.7.8.2(b) Continued

Figure A.7.8.2(c) Example of Completed Power Systems Supplementary Record


of Completion.

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Figure A.7.8.2(c) Continued

Figure A.7.8.2(d) Example of Completed Notification Appliance Power Panel


Supplementary Record of Completion.

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Figure A.7.8.2(e) Example of Completed Interconnected Systems Suplementary


Record of Completion.

Figure A.7.8.2(f) Example of Completed Deviations from Adopted Codes and


Standards Supplementary Record of Completion.

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Figure A.7.8.2(g) Risk Analysis Checklist.

Figure A.7.8.2(g) Continued

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Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Lee Richardson


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Submittal Date: Mon Oct 07 11:04:32 EDT 2013

Committee Statement

Committee The reference to Figure A.7.8.2(g) is causing confusion and it is suggested that the
Statement: CC review this and possibly relocate Figure A.7.8.2(g) to a different Chapter 7
section. The Risk Analysis Checklist only appears in the annex (under the purview of
SIG-ECS - see A.24.3.11) and because of this there is confusion in the numbering
since there is no 7.8.2(g) in the Code text. The Risk Analysis Checklist in A.7.8.2(g)
is not considered part of Record of Completion so the checklist needs to be
relocated to appropriate existing Section 7.3.6 Risk Analysis Documentation as
Annex material. The TC deletes Figure A.7.8.2(g) from A.7.8.2. See FR 347 for new
location.
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