4384 QPD 9 TS H 0001 1 CDF

CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS
Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD

Package No.:
Contract No.: GC21110000
COMMENT DISPOSITION FORM (CDF)

Qatar Petroleum District: TECHNICAL SUBMITTAL FOR DEW POINT STUDY
Title: Reviewing Dept.: Arab Engineering Bureau (QRC)
OF STAIRCASE AND LOBBY AT TOWER 8
Doc. No.: 4384-QPD-9-TS-H-0001 Rev.: 1 Disposition Dept.: Al-Balagh Trading & Cont. Co. WLL
Review Date: 16/04/2023 Disposition Date: Select date.
Status 10,
S. No. 2, 3, 6, 1 Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
and 11.
ITEM 8.08
1. Clarify the DFCU mentioned is newly proposed or

existing base build unit.
2. Contractor to check and verify the installed base build
DFCU is having EC Motor.
3. If the DFCU mentioned is base build unit. CONTRACTOR
to provide the Equipment tag reference number and Noted.
DDC reference number for clarity. DFCU mentioned is base-built unit.
1. 2 Rev.1 DFCU is not having EC motor. OPEN
1. “DFCU is not having EC motor”. CONTRACTOR to Base build details are with QRC/ MCFM only.
update the attached schematic drawing accordingly.
Provide comprehensive FCU control philosophy with
the scope of work demarcation for review.
2. Previous comment not complied. CONTRACTOR to
provide the base build FCU/VAV Equipment tag
reference number and DDC reference number for
clarity.
Document Reference: 4384-QPD-9-TS-H-0001 Rev. 1 Page 1 of 12

Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
ITEM 8.08-8.09-8.10
Contractor to clarify the extent of modification of the

existing hvac system to include electrical requirement if the
need be. Submit copy of schematic diagram and plan layout Noted.
highlighting the affected base build system with the Extent of modification will not effect existing HVAC system
proposed modification for review. as VRV/ split units will be installed which will be
2. 2 standalone installation. OPEN
Rev.1 Schematic copy & layout will be submitted once reports
1. CONTRACTOR to provide a justification of the proposed are
VRV/Split units over the previous proposal which is approved.
FCU (chilled water type) for review. Include electrical
power supply, control, and refrigerant leak detection
requirement with respect to the capacity/capability of
existing base build MEP, BMS system.
ITEM 8.08
 Clarify the VAV mentioned is newly proposed or

existing base build unit for review.
3. 2 Rev.1 OPEN
Noted.
Provide scope of work demarcation of proposed the
Please note the correction from VAV to CAV in all pages
proposed modification of the control philosophy of the
which are existing base-build units only.
existing CAV/FCU’s serving the service lobby.
4. 2 ITEM 8.10 Noted. OPEN

Will be submitted separately once report is approved.
Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
CONTRACTOR to attach layout sketch plan (Mechanical,

Electrical, Plumbing) of the proposed FCU (chilled water type)
level 29, 20, 11, and 3 for review.
Please refer to reply on comment 14
Rev.1 “VRF FCU solution with outdoor units located at roof level
and Mechanical level” is also proposed also as an alternate
CONTRACTOR to provide a justification of the proposed “VRF to CHW FCU’s.
FCU solutions” over the previous proposal which is FCU
(chilled water type) for review. Include electrical power
supply, control, and refrigerant leak detection requirement
with respect to the capacity/capability of existing base build
MEP, BMS system.
ITEM 8.08-8.09-8.10
Indicate a demarcation between existing base build Noted.

5. 2 OPEN
services/system and proposed modification for review. Will be submitted separately once report is approved.
Rev.1 Refer to rev.1 comments on items above.

ITEM 8.10
CONTRACTOR to conduct a comprehensive actual site survey
verification of existing base build services and finishes that will
6. 6 Noted. OPEN
be affected and highlight to client.
Rev.1 Refer to rev.1 comments on items above.

QE COMMENTS REV. 0
Section-2 of the Submittal: Please include the wind data for Noted and updated in Section 4.01, in report No.
1. 2
Peak humid month of July, Aug and September 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
2. 2 1. Item 7.05 Pls clarify why replacing the exiting weather 1. QDC reported observation about existing weather
louvres􀀀 at Level 29 will prevent clogging and damage to louver and proposed sand trap louver in fan room to
plant ?􀀀 Refer also to PIQ0052C comments.􀀀 protect the new motorized dampers from sand and silt
ingress and protect from clogging, thus preventing
ambient air infiltration into staircase and lobby. Weather
louver is assigned with priority 2 (optional) in Section 9 of
the report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1. A semi-annual
maintenance Plan is proposed for pressurization fan
motorized damper in section 8.01, 8.02 and 8.03 of the
report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
2. Airlock lobby with door access control required to keep

2. Item 7.07 as well as upgrading the door seals why not the door closed and provision of split unit, is proposed to
provide an airlock and install an FCU. Do we require door staircase 1 door open to terrace at level 29. Refer to
access control as well Section 8.07 of the report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
3. All internal and external door seals in staircase 1, 2 and

3. Item 7.08 should we not consider upgrading the seals of the lobby to be upgraded in remedial measures section 8.08-
door leading to Stair 1 from within plant room? 8.13 of the report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
4. Door access control to be restored to all doors of

4. Item 7.10, should we not consider door access control as staircase 1, 2 and lobby. Refer to Section 8.08-8.13 in
well? report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
5. Door repair/replacement should be in accordance to

NFPA 80 Section 5.5: Maintainence;
5. Item 7.11 it would appear that some cases the external doors
require extensive repairs to make them fit for purpose would it
not be more viable to just replace 􀀀 the doors ?
Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
Refer to section 8.08-8.13 of the report No.
4092_DPS_T8_R1.
6. Noted and updated in Section 7.12, in report No.
4092_DPS_T8_R1.
6. Item 7.12 provide snapshot of the Staircase 1 door opening
at Level 1 opens to Mech area. 7. DFCU to be allowed with new FCU controller for BMS in
service lobies.. All service lobbies set point temperature
7. Item 7.13 BMS controlled DFU's, is this feasible with existing proposed 28C. Refer to Section 8.04 and 8.05 for set point
base build DFU's? What set point temperature is temperature, in report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
recommended? 8. Temperature control in lobby is by space sensor i.e.
input and monitoring is by BMS. Refer to Section 8.15 of
the report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
8. Item 7.14 are you advocating that the temperature control of 9. Noted and updated in Section 8.16b of the report No.
this lobby area should be via BMS as well? 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
9. Item 7.15 the chart clearly illustrates that if moisture content

values exceed 4.8 the concrete walls are most 􀀀 likely to 10. QDC reported observation about existing weather
suffer dampness, state that some form of surface wall louver and proposed sand trap louver in fan room to
treatment of the concrete walls is necessary. protect the new motorized dampers from sand and silt
ingress and protect from clogging, thus preventing
10. Item 8.04 we need more clarity as to the benefits if we ambient air infiltration into staircase and lobby. Weather
replace the existing weather louver. louver is assigned with priority 2 (optional) in Section 9 of
maintenance plan is proposed for pressurization fan
report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.

Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
11. QCS 2014, Section 22, under design data 1.1.7 refers to
summer peak condition of 46Cdb and 30Cwb, resulting in
dew point temperature of 25.2C. Comparing QCS with
ASHRAE specific Evaporative condition is worst case in
11. Item 8.05 the implication that condensation 35hrs / yr (0.4 Section 4.03 and Appendix of the report No.
exceedance) would seem that ASHRAE is not a 􀀀 reliable 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
source for estimating the duration of probable􀀀
condensation here in the MENA region. 12. Airlock lobby with door access control and provision of
split unit is proposed to staircase 1 door open to terrace at
level 29. Refer to Section 8.07 of the report No.
4092_DPS_T8_R1.
12. Item 8.06, please refer to my comments on Item 7.07 i.e.
pls mention provision of airlock in Section 7.07 13. Door repair/replacement should be in accordance to
NFPA 80 Section 5.5: Maintainence.
13. Item 8.07 apart from door seals, should we not address if
door needs to be replaced as well, as some doors may not be Refer to section 8.08-8.13 of the report No.
re-useable? 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
14. QDC proposed two options i.e. chilled water FCU

tapping from existing CHW network (subject to source
availability) and VRF FCU solution with outdoor units
located at roof level and Mechanical level.
14. Item 8.10 is it feasible to use CHW FCU? Can you pls a Refer to Note in Section 8.16a of the report No.
simple schematic illustrating from where are the proposed 4092_DPS_T8_R1, CFD simulation to confirm final No. Of
CHW tie-in's as reference. Can you explain the rational used to FCU’s, location, capacity, and heater sizing.
determine which floors should be used for the FCU's? I would Thermostat can be without digital display. Details available
prefer digital thermostats without displays as visual displays in section 8.16a of the report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
will lead to complaints from individuals.
1. The comment states that dust ingress might damage the 1. QDC reported observation about existing weather
Mechanical equipment inside the room due to non-available louver and proposed sand trap louver in fan room to
weather louver. However, rest of the pressurization fan are protect the new motorized dampers from sand and silt
exposed to outdoor without any enclosure or dust protection. ingress and protect from clogging, thus preventing
ambient air infiltration into staircase and lobby. Weather
louver is assigned with priority 2 (optional) in Section 9 of
maintenance Plan is proposed for pressurization fan
3. 2 report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
2. The proposed DFCU in the staircase is with heater similar to a 2. Refer to Section 8.01, 8.02, 8.03, 8.07, 8.08-8.13 and
modified dehumidifier. There is difficulty for the source of 8.20, in report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1, to stop ambient air
chilled water as the building was built without provision for infiltration in staircase & lobby.
such DFCU in the staircase. The DFCU will not contribute Proposed FCU (chilled water and VRF option) in staircase is
positive pressure to counter any leakage of outside air since it for recirculation of air in the staircase and to maintain
will work only to recirculate the air while removing moisture. temperature above the dew point. The proposed solution
Please submit another alternative which will not violate QCDD does not violate QCDD requirement. Refer to Section
requirements. 8.16a of the report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
4. 2 Section 3. (Project Overview) of the Submittal: Contractor to Noted.
clarify who will be developing the detail drawings as per the Detailed drawings will be submitted by design consultant.
current Dew point study outcome, as QDC scope as quoted
Section-3 is limited to Dew-point study
Section 6 of the submittal: Please also Add Layout of Fans and

Show the relative wind direction in Peak Humid months to Noted and updated in Section 6.03, in report No.
understand the impact of Wind Direction. 4092_DPS_T8_R1 dated 28.03.2023.

Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
Section 7.14 of the submittal: A space sensor is more suitable
rather than the thermostat in order to provide the setpoint Noted and updated in Section 7.15 and 8.15 of the report
only from the BMS only. No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
Currently we are proposing to restore AC to this area via CAV,

QDC to clarify the impact and provide recommendation. Operation of CAV with space temperature sensor to shut
off dampers is outlined in Section 8.15 of the report No.
Section 7.15 of the submittal: Remedial action to be provided 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
to address the issue related to excess moisture content of 5.6 Noted and updated in Section 8.16b, in report No.
%. at Stairecase-2 of Tower-8. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
Section 7.16 of the submittal: QDC to clarify the impact of Refer 7.17 section of the report, Storm water retention
'Roofing drainage related maintenance' on Staircase over a long period can absorb into the fabric, causing
condensation. damage to building material, and increase risk of
condensation. Refer to BS 5250:2021 for impact of
precipitation on building condensation. The driest weather
prevails in Qatar in the month of June, July, August &
September. On this basis the roof treatment is assigned
priority 2 (optional) in Section 9, of the report No.
4092_DPS_T8_R1.
Section 8 of the submittal: Contractor to confirm the inclusion
of BMS monitoring in their current work execution at site for Noted.
new smoke dampers for Staircase and Lobby fans Confirmed for BMS monitoring of newly installed smoke
dampers.
Section 8.01, 8.02 8.03 of the submittal: Contractor to include
the specific site condition for Ducts, flexibles joints condition Noted.
for air tightness and sealant issue. Site condition of Ducts, Ducts and joints are air-tight which will not allow any
flexibles joints and sealant should be clearly highlighted as part exfiltration. Sealant applied is UL approved only.
of this report.
Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
Section 8.4 of the submittal: Sand trap louver is proposed in the

pressurization fan room, is this really required as Smoke rated QDC reported observation about existing weather louver
dampers are already proposed in the downstream duct of the and proposed sand trap louver in fan room to protect the
fans new motorized dampers from sand and silt ingress and
protect from clogging, thus preventing ambient air
infiltration into staircase and lobby. Weather louver is
assigned with priority 2 (optional) in Section 9, in report
No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1. A semi-annual maintenance plan is
proposed for pressurization fan motorized damper in
section 8.01, 8.02 and 8.03 of the report No.
4092_DPS_T8_R1.
Section 8.5 of the submittal: Setpoint temperature noted for

machine room. Setpoint set point temperature for lobby is
proposed as 28 degree C. since lobby is in the middle of the Heat gain sources inside lobby include lighting gains. Refer
floor surrounded by an ambient office temperature of 21 to Section 7.14 & 7.15 of the report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
degree C, please clarify how this will be achieved (in the
absence of any significant load in the lobby).
Section 8.08 of the submittal: A space sensor is more suitable

rather than the thermostat in order to provide the setpoint
only from the BMS. Thermostat give two signals for temperature and compare
with set point temperature for operation of FCU as
Section 8.09 of the submittal: A space sensor is more suitable outlined in Section 8.14a and 8.14b of the report No.
rather than the thermostat in order to provide the setpoint 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
only from the BMS. Noted and updated in Section 8.15, in report No.
4092_DPS_T8_R1.
Section 8.10 of the submittal: QDC to elaborate this statement
Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
in Section 8.10
"Pressure test is proposed in each staircase for assessment of Following the proposed remedial measures outlined in the
infiltration flow." report, it is proposed to conduct pressure test on the
Section 8.10 of the submittal: staircases for infiltration assessment.
Refer to Section 8.20, in report No. 4092_DPS_T8_R1.
5. 2 1. Please provide the basis of selecting the proposed FCU's Refer to Note in Section 8.16a of the report No.
locations in the staircase, A detail design is required for the 4092_DPS_T8_R1. CFD simulation will be done to confirm
proposed FCU’s in the staircase including the location, final No. Of FCU’s, location, capacity, and heater sizing.
capacities, heater sizing, temperature set points. A CFD analysis
will be an appropriate guidance to finalize the location,
capacity, heater sizing, temperature set points etc. of the
proposed FCU, Contractor to submit the same ad part of the
current report.􀀀
Noted.
2. Further, Strategy/concept for Chilled water Tap-off form If CHW FCU strategy is adopted, all details including
existing chilled water network to be studied and clarified, schematics /drawings/ drainage/ electrical will be
Similarly, Condensate drainage and electrical termination provided.
strategy to be included. If VRV strategy is adopted, same will follow.
3. Other alternative to be studied for cooling/dehumidification Options considered for dehumidification includes chilled
of the staircase. water FCU beside VRF system. Refer to Section 8.16a of
Section 8.10 of the submittal:

Impact of specific adjacent AHU room (if any) on the staircase
condensation to be included and remedial measures to be Not Applicable with staircase in Tower 8
provided, this has to checked and verified floor by floor as
there is a difference in layout (i.e. high rise and low rise)
Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
For further comments, please refer to the attached commented
copy of the submittal.
Pit condition of the Elevator shaft of the lift lobby,

Pressurization air delivery shaft pit condition to be checked and Sump pit needs periodic inspection on monthly basis to
recommendation to be provided. keep the sump pit dry throughout the year.
Where required the pressurisation air delivery shaft can be
made air tight by referring to section 8.19 and appendix in
QatarEnergy Comments: Rev. 1
1. CFD analysis is not part of the current report, FCU locations

and capacities are still not defined and provided as
part of the report. This report shall finalize the proposed FCU
capacity and location and the detailed design. The
detail drawings for the DFCU shall be developed and chilled
water source shall be finalized and defined.
2. Section-7.18 of the submittal - AHU Room at level 13

adjacent to Staircase 2: Contractor has not identified the
lower return-air temperature (21 - 23 deg C) at AHU room as
one of the possible reasons for Stair-case
condensation. Contractor shall investigate the above and
provide remedial measures as part of the current report.
Package No.:
Status 10,
and 11.
further, Only one level i.e. Level-13 is identified where the AHU
room is located adjacent to Staircase, however,
there are several instances where the AHU rooms are adjusted
to staircase-1 at tower-1, all such level shall be
clearly identified as part of this report.
Jovienel Q. Tercero, Lead Mechanicl Engineer, QRC

Reviewer Name: Signature: Date: 05/06/2023
Jeffer Largosa-QA/QC Insp., QRC
Sonny Godoy-APM, QRC
Approver Name: Signature: Date: 05/06/2023
Shibu George-PM, QRC
Dispositioner Name: Contractor Representative Signature: Date: Select date.
Document Status: 10 = Approved 2 = Approved with Comments (Incorporate comments 3 = Not Approved (Incorporate comments and
(Resubmission not and resubmit - work may proceed subject to resubmit - work shall not proceed)
required) incorporation of comments)
6 = For Information 1 = Approved without Comments (Resubmission 11 = Cancellation Accepted
Only required - work may proceed)
Note 1: A unique CDF serial number will be allocated with document initial submission; subsequent revisions will be reflected in CDF revisions (applicable at least by QRC and QP)
Note 2: Originator - QP/ QRC
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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS

Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD

Contract No.: GC21110000

COMMENT DISPOSITION FORM (CDF)

1. Clarify the DFCU mentioned is newly proposed or

Document Reference: 4384-QPD-9-TS-H-0001 Rev. 1 Page 1 of 12

Contract No.: GC21110000

Contractor to clarify the extent of modification of the

 Clarify the VAV mentioned is newly proposed or

4. 2 ITEM 8.10 Noted. OPEN

Contract No.: GC21110000

CONTRACTOR to attach layout sketch plan (Mechanical,

Indicate a demarcation between existing base build Noted.

Rev.1 Refer to rev.1 comments on items above.

Rev.1 Refer to rev.1 comments on items above.

Contract No.: GC21110000

2. Airlock lobby with door access control required to keep

3. All internal and external door seals in staircase 1, 2 and

4. Door access control to be restored to all doors of

5. Door repair/replacement should be in accordance to

Contract No.: GC21110000

9. Item 7.15 the chart clearly illustrates that if moisture content

Document Reference: 4384-QPD-9-TS-H-0001 Rev. 1 Page 5 of 12

Contract No.: GC21110000

14. QDC proposed two options i.e. chilled water FCU

Contract No.: GC21110000

Section 6 of the submittal: Please also Add Layout of Fans and

Document Reference: 4384-QPD-9-TS-H-0001 Rev. 1 Page 7 of 12

Contract No.: GC21110000

Currently we are proposing to restore AC to this area via CAV,

Contract No.: GC21110000

Section 8.4 of the submittal: Sand trap louver is proposed in the

Section 8.5 of the submittal: Setpoint temperature noted for

Section 8.08 of the submittal: A space sensor is more suitable

Contract No.: GC21110000

Section 8.10 of the submittal:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Pit condition of the Elevator shaft of the lift lobby,

QatarEnergy Comments: Rev. 1

1. CFD analysis is not part of the current report, FCU locations

2. Section-7.18 of the submittal - AHU Room at level 13

Contract No.: GC21110000

Jovienel Q. Tercero, Lead Mechanicl Engineer, QRC

Dispositioner Name: Contractor Representative Signature: Date: Select date.

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